In the public transit sense. Our rail moves coal. Which has priority over Amtrak.
Europeans have turned their rail system into expensive leisure travel for the elites
Looks like US$32 from London to Paris. Paris to Stolkhom is US$112. That'd be a 20 hours drive, passing through 4 countries. ~1200 miles. Even with US prices, that'd be $134 in gas money alone.
Ok dude. You hate Europe and they can do nothing right. We get it.
Right, and in the USA we subsidize the oil&gas corporations to the tune of $4.6 Billion/year [cbo.gov]
Correct, and I think we should abolish that.
HURRZAH! Something we can unite behind. Let's whip out the victory parade and come together under a united banner and there can be peace in our ti....
But...
MOTHERFUCKER! COME ON!
"bu bu but Solar subsidies"!? Really? Developing new tech that saves the planet vs subsidizing ancient established oil barons and a product that might lead to a human extinction event....
Abolishing fossil fuel subsidies would have no effect on the market, while abolishing subsidies for alternative energies would kill the alternative energy market.
siiiiiiiiiiigh, you double-talking motherfucker. You had JUST AGREED we should get rid of oil subsidies. And then you say it would have no effect.
How about privatizing both federal highways and public transit?
No, fuck your toll roads. And I don't like my pavement suddenly turning to gravel.
I hear if you stick a conical copper chamber on top of your microwave with a magical High-Q-value waffer on one end, you can launch a satellite into space.
(finger-guns and a solid "eeeyyy" to anyone getting that reference)
Fireworks are still a thing. There has to be some sort of permission slip to launch explosive shells from a tube.
I kind find some sort of arms that are completely banned in the US which is all I need for my point to be correct.
I typically go with nukes when I'm making this sort of argument. If you're talking with a libertarian, even the crazy sort that thinks we should privatize the police force, you can typically get them to agree that we should stop arabs from bringing in fissionable material to the states. As long as you coach it like that even they can see reason.
also thinks its abundantly clear the frames never intended that exercise of one right might require one waive another right.
Remember that the framers never intended to let non-land-owners have a vote in 1789. From 1792 to 1856 the property qualifications went away state by state. And even then you often still had to pay taxes.
I like the rule of law. I like our constitution, for the most part. But a lot of the nationalistic sort have some weird lofty ideals about what the Constitution entailed and the sort of society "the framers" envisioned. They certainly didn't all agree. There was compromise. Great compromise.
Do.... people in Germany really care about how NewYorkers and Midwesterners get to work?
People drive in the US because it's fast, cheap, simple, and convenient.
People also use public transportation because it's... faster, cheaper, simpler, and more convenient....In big cities like NY.
Dear god, just PARKING in NY you have to pay out the ass. You're rich or dumb to own a car in a big city. And... I imagine the same is true for backwater Barvaria. Do they have subway systems through-out German farmland?
Europe has a better rail system. Many European cities have better mass transit. America has decent mass transit in the bigger cities. Atlanta and LA traffic can go fuck themselves. In a lot of not-major-cities, if you're poor, you take the bus and walk the last 5 blocks. I hear Europe's buses aren't quite as low-class.
the [german] government deliberate makes it expensive to drive. And the German government subsidizes the kind of transportation that the intellectual and political elite in Germany prefers, which is why public transit is excellent near political power centers and universities.
Right, and in the USA we subsidize the oil&gas corporations to the tune of $4.6 Billion/year because they have our economy by the balls. (And they would even if we did make our cities more mass-transity and make passenger-rail more viable, we're just more spread out. Cars and trucks are simply more viable here, fundamentally). Hence, average gas prices here are US$2.81/gal while it's US$5.57/gal in Frankfurt. For a fungible resource that gets shipped globally, there's obviously market-fuckery going on. But you don't see anyone in power, conservatives or libertarians (pft, as if libertarians got into power) alike ever crying about letting the free market decide. So the cost of road upkeep is socialized in the USA, while gas tax pays for the roads in Germany.
how was your Internet experience from, say, 2000 to 2015?
A series of outrages as the blatent bullshit various telecoms tried to pull.
Paying out the ass for something other developed nations have higher quality at cheaper rates.
In the midwest, we've got exactly one choice for broadband in any given area and it was fuck-you levels of service. The term "Up to" was thrown around a lot. Because "who are you going to switch to? 56Kbps phone line modem? Spotty sat service?"
How did it appreciably change in 2015?
I know that if they fuck with my pipes like they've tried in the past I can get with the EFF and we can sue their pants off for violating the 1934 telecomunications act.
Regulation is needed where a lack of competition breaks down capitalism.
Would you support busting up the top 5 telecom companies?
yes, that's how "if" statements work. Welcome to slashdot.
Is that what your life is like?
No, but then again I haven't murdered anyone so me and my pa aren't really in the running.
Most people don't live under these circumstances
Hoooooly shit dude, that whole line was a dig at Leviticus. Come on, shellfish? If you're going to preach at least know the bible.
Foreknowledge does not mean God caused it.
RIGHT! I know that. Hence: "or he's... negligent when it comes to certain individuals." If he has foreknowledge, and chooses to do nothing, that's NEGLIGENCE. Because this is your metaphor where you're talking about "your son". God would be the metaphorical "father figure" letting his son shoot a motherfucker. IF he knows that's gonna happen, and he lets that happen, then he is a negligent father and his kid should be taken away.
See? "IF" statements. They're useful as fuck.
that's just like the FBI knowing the bad guys are going to commit some crime and letting them go through with it for a better opportunity (to catch them or stop other crimes or whatever).
Oh great. Your god is setting people up to cast them down into a DEEPER level of hell. Super. Hell of a god you've got going there. Really.... graceful.
My GOD! So in the original Apranet, MIT refused to forward emails from Lincoln towards the Pentagon unless they used the oxford comma!?
Network neutrality is an underlying principle of how the of how the Internet works. We all assume that once you're on the Internet you can go to any IP address, and website, from any nation, use any protocol, and theres's just the one Internet rather than separate Prodigy-net, Disney-net, China-net. *cough cough* ok that last one is a little rough. But anyway, in non-dystopian societies, the Internet is and always has been unrestricted, open and NEUTRAL. Anyone who tried anything else was laughed at. Prodigy's thing withered, and of course they offered a real Internet connection, because they were an ISP.
With market consolidation, the telecoms have a history of attempting to break NN. So people started talking about network neutrality legislation to enforce it.
The goal should be to remove barriers of entry, rather than codify and enforce them.
If Mr. MoneyBags Google couldn't make a go of it, I think the barriers are HUGE. Telecoms simply drop the price wherever google comes to town (and rasie it elsewhere). They sue them for access to telephone poles. And they've all but stopped their expansion. They never got past their test cases.
Would you support busting up the top 5 telecom companies? Take Sherman's trust-busting hammer to these oligarchs who refuse to compete with each other? If you've qualms about how to enforce network neutrality, hey, I get that. I really do. There's a TON of ways congress could fuck it up.
But I've yet to meet anyone who is against network neutrality.
Noooooo, he asked why a techie would oppose network neutrality.
The nets have been neutral LONG before Wheeler ran the FCC. "Market forces" kept them that way when there was a bunch of competition, but the market has consolidated and the telecoms keep trying to break NN and the backlash keeps getting less and less meaningful. (ESPN360 or ESPN3 is a blatant violation, but people have started picking and choosing which battles to fight). With no competition, the standard alternative is regulation. There are TONS of ways to fuck up regulating the Internet and enforcing network neutrality. I liked Wheeler's Title II classification. (But it's at the whim of the FCC head... so that sucks)
The IDEALS of network nuetrality include some good things to ASPIRE to. Ideals like "fairness" and "openess".
That's not ideal for laws, but yeah, I agree in that's best in this case. I just have zero faith the lawyers and congressmen have any idea how this all works (like you said, it's hard even for the pros). So broad language is best. And the 1934 communications act establishing common carrier status works wonderfully.
What "Wheeler rules" do you have issue with, exactly?
Congress specifically chose NOT to give the FCC authority to promulgate NN regulations,
Uh.... what? The FCC regulations communcation, specifically telephones. BACK IN 1934! You'd have to be a dense fuck to no think that extends to the Internet and the airwaves.
preferring that be handled under existing law.
....Existing law for network neutrality? WHAT existing law for network neutrality?
What could happen legitimately would be that Congress could pass a law defining what public policy is generally - what NN means, legally.
I've no faith in congress to even do that. What would most likely happen is they'd ask their "friends" in the industry to write some policy for them, which they'd bring to the floor....Assuming the campaign money keeps flowing. And even those who honestly wanted to try and fix shit... jesus, I just don't think they know enough or have enough people around them that know enough not to be drowned out by a cacophony of lobbyist bullshit.
So I do largely support the ideals, the goals of network nuetrality
Boom. Done. Arguing about the details of implementation is fine. Expected. Good even. Something I expect from the people who know their shit (And I think you probably know more about networking than I do). But I've yet to hear of anyone who opposes network neutrality other than
1) Those who run telecoms 2) Those whom the telecoms have bribed. 3) Those who confuse NN with regulation enforcing NN. (political "frameing" campaigns are a motherfucking bitch and a half)
It has a full set of human DNA. It's alive, for a while. How's your "fundamental level of genetics" working out for you there?
It's so adorable to hear people try to talk about nearly ANYTHING in biology in absolute terms. We can't even clearly define what a species is. I get what you're saying. It's not a bad cut-off point to have. It's just not very practical for a good swath of the human condition. And any time you get into de-humanizing people it's usually scary stuff. History is full of that sort of bad mojo. But still, pooping footballs...
If your son is 5 and he got a hold of your gun? Yes, that's negligence. You are responsible for your son and your gun and you failed those responsibilities.
Even if he's older and has more agency but still a dependent, then it's a judgement call. It might make you a shitty parent. If you raised him up to be a pscyho killer, yes, some of the blame is at your feet and you will criminally charged.
Even if they make it to 18, if you kept them locked in a basement, psychologically abusing them, and threatening fire and brimstone and an eternity of suffering if they ever say your name, eat shellfish, or like the wrong type of genitalia, then you can still be held accountable.
If you make a machine that's responsible for other people lives, and it goes out and kills people, even if it was the product of some crazy machine learning, you're still responsible for it. Likewise, if you genetically engineer a plague upon the world, even if you weren't really sure how it would play out, you're still responsible for it.
I don't think you understand design.
Is your god all powerful? All knowing? If he can't foresee the results of his actions and what his creations will do, then he's not all powerful and doesn't know what's going to happen. He's just some shmuck with more resources then me.
Did he write the rules of physics? Decide how atoms decay? Can he know both the exact position and velocity of electrons? Then he SHOULD be able to foresee why people make decisions and free will is a myth. Either he's not really a god, or he's incompetent or negligent when it comes to certain individuals.
Where the hell were you!? Jesus CHRIST so much shit went on down there. Slavery, Childhood bone cancer, do you know how wasps lay their eggs? It's god-damned nightmare fuel. You made one scary motherfucking place you crazy asshat! You realize that you have to be responsible for the Assyrians too? Did you just forget about those guys and how they conquered others? Of course where you DID show up, it lead to the fall of civilization and centuries of genocide..... So maybe it's probably for the best you stayed away or only showed up in toast.
Unless you've changed stuff over the years. Obviously, I guess, as we're standing in heaven which only came about from Hellenistic religions' influence. I guess this whole godhood thing must have been an iterative process eh? Real learning experience? Well the latest trend of scientific materialism seems pretty alright. Are they your current "chosen people"? You know you're gonna catch shit for this stuff for an eternity right?
But seriously, Alzheimers? What were you thinking? That's just cruel.
As opposed to "human intelligence" which is in reality is data analysis algorithms and gut feelings running on slow meatspace hardware, using fuzzy logic to arrive at a good enough probabilistic solution, rather than harder best solution, to a problem.
Hopefully it makes for a better meritocracy. But no-joke, if you hire a brilliant codemonkey who will lash out at anyone with the audacity of consuming unholy substances like caffeine... They're going to bring down the whole team. And the pro-diversity crowd isn't... completely crazy. Party composition is a thing. In a party of 5 wizards, the barbarian is going to shine the first time they meet a beholder. If there was just one metric we had to max out, and that was that, sure, hiring would be easy. But it's not that simple.
and how exactly?
Probably by going through multiple gates. No one that HR doesn't want to get past will even be shown to the AI_HIREBOT. Everyone the bot approves of still has to get pass the manager's approval gate. And ideally the team they'd be working with also get to judge them on personal interactions and give a thumbs up or thumbs down.
[5th generation, in the wild] That's where it starts to get to the 'no body knows' kind of territory.
Noooooo, we STILL have some idea of what could happen. You know, dogs. Broccoli. Starlink corn. We've got way more experience with things like this than you're letting on. I think you just need to browse wikipedia a bit. Or read a book on the subject. It's interesting stuff.
We don't even really understand how much of human 'junk DNA' is actually junk
Turns out there's more to DNA than protein-coding genes. All the... if-else statements around the driver API calls are also important. But yeah, I agree, epigenetics are weird and not well understood. And my GOD do the "scientific journalists" not help in that regard.
Not that all the effect will be bad, but they sure won't all be good.
Wisdom teeth. The Superior laryngeal nerve which loops around the Aorta for no reason. Cells that off themselves sounds pretty terrible, but when they refuse to die cancer kinda sucks. All the security holes that allow virus's to make us sick. Removing the code virus's have inserted into our DNA might be a good idea, but of course by this point we might be making use of it. (Yeah, btw, we've already been genetically altered). That thing were every cell division snaps off telomeres and leads to all the effects of ageing kinda sucks. I for one would like to be young forever. Hair loss, vision loss, joints wearing out. Pretty much everything that happens after 50. Hangnails, scar tissue, acme. I dunno about you but puberty could have gone smoother. I know it made sense back in the day, but parts of me really don't need to be THAT hairy. Really kind of a pain. While we're at it, I'm no longer hunting and gathering and don't really need this ring of fat around my belly. There's not days between meals.
Could we have some sort of bugzilla list with a bounty system? I'd really prefer the super-babies of the future to be open source rather than proprietary. Someone us don't want kids with mandatory apple logo birthmarks.
So he's shit at making people AND he sucks at deleting a repo branch? I mean, we're still here. And BOY OH BOY do I have a few things to say at his code review. Do we really want to leave the code-base in the hands of someone with such a long history of fuckups? And at this point I'm pretty sure it's abandonware.
No, I'm pretty sure nobility was a thing. "High born". We've been here before. Most of them didn't get their heads chopped off.
Yeah, it'll cause some social issues. It'll make that worse. But it will make a whole host of people better. It will cure illnesses. It will let the lame walk and the blind see. It will push the edges of what humans are capable of. It will do more good than harm. And it might not be restricted to only the billionaires' babies. It might be common. Imagine if every baby born in Africa could simply be immune to malaria.
Literally no one has any idea what the long term effect of this kind of thing is going to be.
No, there are a lot of people who have some idea of what this sort of tinkering will do. We call them geneticists, and they generally don't advocate tinkering around with human DNA on ethical grounds.
The specific effects are.... a lot like mutations. Mostly bad. Sometimes good. Sometimes even then there's bad side effects. Anything you put in a gam
If you want to know more about the current state of just what we know "Herding Hemingway's Cats" is a decent read. Thick, but insightful. I think it's a good read for programmers just due to the number of parallels between source code and programming, and DNA and genetics.
You mean.... a guy doing something that's been done before but to a target no one else has used due to ethical concerns.
Unless there was some reason to believe CISPR wouldn't have worked on human DNA, this isn't a scientific breakthrough. At best it's a social one. Or possibly an ethical one, right through the floor.
Personally though, Bring on GATTAGA and super-babies. It will make us better. And worse, but mostly better.
What's the alternative? This isn't something you can stop, you can do it in a garage. And many people will be very heavily motivated to do it. We couldn't stop people from putting posion into themselves, we've no hope of stopping them from curing their children.
Typical code review bitched about some minor style thing while missing the blatantly obvious: #include that would break everything and fail to pick up stdio because I didn't escape the ""...The "" ""! GodDAMNIT |,\.|,>|,.||>.,.,>..,>
There we go.Yes. Mashing the keyboard in anger is indeed how a percentage of coding is done.
To teach the drone to herd autonomously, Soon-Jo Chung, an associate professor of aerospace, and his colleagues [...] studied and derived a mathematical model of flocking dynamics to describe how flocks build and maintain formations, how they respond to threats along the edge of the flock, and how they then communicate that threat through the flock. Their work improves on algorithms designed for herding sheep, which only needed to work in two dimensions, instead of three. Once they were able to generate a mathematical description of flocking behaviors, the researchers reverse engineered it to see exactly how approaching external threats would be responded to by flocks, and then used that information to create a new herding algorithm that produces ideal flight paths for incoming drones to move the flock away from a protected airspace without dispersing it.
Sweet jesus, you fly back and forth around the area you don't want the birds to be at. They'll be pissed at the harassment and leave. Start in the middle, work your way out. Try to time it or send a signal so that the drone isn't exactly where you don't want flying things to be.
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Europe has a better rail system.
Better in what sense?
In the public transit sense. Our rail moves coal. Which has priority over Amtrak.
Europeans have turned their rail system into expensive leisure travel for the elites
Looks like US$32 from London to Paris. Paris to Stolkhom is US$112. That'd be a 20 hours drive, passing through 4 countries. ~1200 miles. Even with US prices, that'd be $134 in gas money alone.
Ok dude. You hate Europe and they can do nothing right. We get it.
Right, and in the USA we subsidize the oil&gas corporations to the tune of $4.6 Billion/year [cbo.gov]
Correct, and I think we should abolish that.
HURRZAH! Something we can unite behind. Let's whip out the victory parade and come together under a united banner and there can be peace in our ti....
But...
MOTHERFUCKER! COME ON!
"bu bu but Solar subsidies"!? Really? Developing new tech that saves the planet vs subsidizing ancient established oil barons and a product that might lead to a human extinction event....
Abolishing fossil fuel subsidies would have no effect on the market, while abolishing subsidies for alternative energies would kill the alternative energy market.
siiiiiiiiiiigh, you double-talking motherfucker. You had JUST AGREED we should get rid of oil subsidies. And then you say it would have no effect.
How about privatizing both federal highways and public transit?
No, fuck your toll roads. And I don't like my pavement suddenly turning to gravel.
I hear if you stick a conical copper chamber on top of your microwave with a magical High-Q-value waffer on one end, you can launch a satellite into space.
(finger-guns and a solid "eeeyyy" to anyone getting that reference)
Fireworks are still a thing. There has to be some sort of permission slip to launch explosive shells from a tube.
I kind find some sort of arms that are completely banned in the US which is all I need for my point to be correct.
I typically go with nukes when I'm making this sort of argument. If you're talking with a libertarian, even the crazy sort that thinks we should privatize the police force, you can typically get them to agree that we should stop arabs from bringing in fissionable material to the states. As long as you coach it like that even they can see reason.
also thinks its abundantly clear the frames never intended that exercise of one right might require one waive another right.
Remember that the framers never intended to let non-land-owners have a vote in 1789. From 1792 to 1856 the property qualifications went away state by state. And even then you often still had to pay taxes.
I like the rule of law. I like our constitution, for the most part. But a lot of the nationalistic sort have some weird lofty ideals about what the Constitution entailed and the sort of society "the framers" envisioned. They certainly didn't all agree. There was compromise. Great compromise.
Do.... people in Germany really care about how NewYorkers and Midwesterners get to work?
People drive in the US because it's fast, cheap, simple, and convenient.
People also use public transportation because it's... faster, cheaper, simpler, and more convenient. ...In big cities like NY.
Dear god, just PARKING in NY you have to pay out the ass. You're rich or dumb to own a car in a big city. And... I imagine the same is true for backwater Barvaria. Do they have subway systems through-out German farmland?
Europe has a better rail system. Many European cities have better mass transit. America has decent mass transit in the bigger cities. Atlanta and LA traffic can go fuck themselves. In a lot of not-major-cities, if you're poor, you take the bus and walk the last 5 blocks. I hear Europe's buses aren't quite as low-class.
the [german] government deliberate makes it expensive to drive. And the German government subsidizes the kind of transportation that the intellectual and political elite in Germany prefers, which is why public transit is excellent near political power centers and universities.
Right, and in the USA we subsidize the oil&gas corporations to the tune of $4.6 Billion/year because they have our economy by the balls. (And they would even if we did make our cities more mass-transity and make passenger-rail more viable, we're just more spread out. Cars and trucks are simply more viable here, fundamentally). Hence, average gas prices here are US$2.81/gal while it's US$5.57/gal in Frankfurt. For a fungible resource that gets shipped globally, there's obviously market-fuckery going on. But you don't see anyone in power, conservatives or libertarians (pft, as if libertarians got into power) alike ever crying about letting the free market decide. So the cost of road upkeep is socialized in the USA, while gas tax pays for the roads in Germany.
how was your Internet experience from, say, 2000 to 2015?
A series of outrages as the blatent bullshit various telecoms tried to pull.
Paying out the ass for something other developed nations have higher quality at cheaper rates.
In the midwest, we've got exactly one choice for broadband in any given area and it was fuck-you levels of service. The term "Up to" was thrown around a lot. Because "who are you going to switch to? 56Kbps phone line modem? Spotty sat service?"
How did it appreciably change in 2015?
I know that if they fuck with my pipes like they've tried in the past I can get with the EFF and we can sue their pants off for violating the 1934 telecomunications act.
Regulation is needed where a lack of competition breaks down capitalism.
Would you support busting up the top 5 telecom companies?
And now we can all see that the market is fucked and the top telecoms are openly admitting they will not compete in each other's territory.
Without competition, there is no free market. With no choices, there are monopolies. Without these things capitalism doesn't work.
yes, that's how "if" statements work. Welcome to slashdot.
Is that what your life is like?
No, but then again I haven't murdered anyone so me and my pa aren't really in the running.
Most people don't live under these circumstances
Hoooooly shit dude, that whole line was a dig at Leviticus. Come on, shellfish? If you're going to preach at least know the bible.
Foreknowledge does not mean God caused it.
RIGHT! I know that. Hence: "or he's ... negligent when it comes to certain individuals." If he has foreknowledge, and chooses to do nothing, that's NEGLIGENCE. Because this is your metaphor where you're talking about "your son". God would be the metaphorical "father figure" letting his son shoot a motherfucker. IF he knows that's gonna happen, and he lets that happen, then he is a negligent father and his kid should be taken away.
See? "IF" statements. They're useful as fuck.
that's just like the FBI knowing the bad guys are going to commit some crime and letting them go through with it for a better opportunity (to catch them or stop other crimes or whatever).
Oh great. Your god is setting people up to cast them down into a DEEPER level of hell. Super. Hell of a god you've got going there. Really.... graceful.
My GOD! So in the original Apranet, MIT refused to forward emails from Lincoln towards the Pentagon unless they used the oxford comma!?
Network neutrality is an underlying principle of how the of how the Internet works. We all assume that once you're on the Internet you can go to any IP address, and website, from any nation, use any protocol, and theres's just the one Internet rather than separate Prodigy-net, Disney-net, China-net. *cough cough* ok that last one is a little rough. But anyway, in non-dystopian societies, the Internet is and always has been unrestricted, open and NEUTRAL. Anyone who tried anything else was laughed at. Prodigy's thing withered, and of course they offered a real Internet connection, because they were an ISP.
With market consolidation, the telecoms have a history of attempting to break NN. So people started talking about network neutrality legislation to enforce it.
The goal should be to remove barriers of entry, rather than codify and enforce them.
If Mr. MoneyBags Google couldn't make a go of it, I think the barriers are HUGE. Telecoms simply drop the price wherever google comes to town (and rasie it elsewhere). They sue them for access to telephone poles. And they've all but stopped their expansion. They never got past their test cases.
Would you support busting up the top 5 telecom companies? Take Sherman's trust-busting hammer to these oligarchs who refuse to compete with each other?
If you've qualms about how to enforce network neutrality, hey, I get that. I really do. There's a TON of ways congress could fuck it up.
But I've yet to meet anyone who is against network neutrality.
You asked why a techie opposed the Wheeler rules,
Noooooo, he asked why a techie would oppose network neutrality.
The nets have been neutral LONG before Wheeler ran the FCC. "Market forces" kept them that way when there was a bunch of competition, but the market has consolidated and the telecoms keep trying to break NN and the backlash keeps getting less and less meaningful. (ESPN360 or ESPN3 is a blatant violation, but people have started picking and choosing which battles to fight). With no competition, the standard alternative is regulation. There are TONS of ways to fuck up regulating the Internet and enforcing network neutrality. I liked Wheeler's Title II classification. (But it's at the whim of the FCC head... so that sucks)
The IDEALS of network nuetrality include some good things to ASPIRE to. Ideals like "fairness" and "openess".
That's not ideal for laws, but yeah, I agree in that's best in this case. I just have zero faith the lawyers and congressmen have any idea how this all works (like you said, it's hard even for the pros). So broad language is best. And the 1934 communications act establishing common carrier status works wonderfully.
What "Wheeler rules" do you have issue with, exactly?
Congress specifically chose NOT to give the FCC authority to promulgate NN regulations,
Uh.... what? The FCC regulations communcation, specifically telephones. BACK IN 1934! You'd have to be a dense fuck to no think that extends to the Internet and the airwaves.
preferring that be handled under existing law.
....Existing law for network neutrality? WHAT existing law for network neutrality?
What could happen legitimately would be that Congress could pass a law defining what public policy is generally - what NN means, legally.
I've no faith in congress to even do that. What would most likely happen is they'd ask their "friends" in the industry to write some policy for them, which they'd bring to the floor. ...Assuming the campaign money keeps flowing. And even those who honestly wanted to try and fix shit... jesus, I just don't think they know enough or have enough people around them that know enough not to be drowned out by a cacophony of lobbyist bullshit.
So I do largely support the ideals, the goals of network nuetrality
Boom. Done. Arguing about the details of implementation is fine. Expected. Good even. Something I expect from the people who know their shit (And I think you probably know more about networking than I do). But I've yet to hear of anyone who opposes network neutrality other than
1) Those who run telecoms
2) Those whom the telecoms have bribed.
3) Those who confuse NN with regulation enforcing NN. (political "frameing" campaigns are a motherfucking bitch and a half)
What about a skin sample?
It has a full set of human DNA. It's alive, for a while. How's your "fundamental level of genetics" working out for you there?
It's so adorable to hear people try to talk about nearly ANYTHING in biology in absolute terms. We can't even clearly define what a species is. I get what you're saying. It's not a bad cut-off point to have. It's just not very practical for a good swath of the human condition. And any time you get into de-humanizing people it's usually scary stuff. History is full of that sort of bad mojo. But still, pooping footballs...
If your son is 5 and he got a hold of your gun? Yes, that's negligence. You are responsible for your son and your gun and you failed those responsibilities.
Even if he's older and has more agency but still a dependent, then it's a judgement call. It might make you a shitty parent. If you raised him up to be a pscyho killer, yes, some of the blame is at your feet and you will criminally charged.
Even if they make it to 18, if you kept them locked in a basement, psychologically abusing them, and threatening fire and brimstone and an eternity of suffering if they ever say your name, eat shellfish, or like the wrong type of genitalia, then you can still be held accountable.
If you make a machine that's responsible for other people lives, and it goes out and kills people, even if it was the product of some crazy machine learning, you're still responsible for it. Likewise, if you genetically engineer a plague upon the world, even if you weren't really sure how it would play out, you're still responsible for it.
I don't think you understand design.
Is your god all powerful? All knowing? If he can't foresee the results of his actions and what his creations will do, then he's not all powerful and doesn't know what's going to happen. He's just some shmuck with more resources then me.
Did he write the rules of physics? Decide how atoms decay? Can he know both the exact position and velocity of electrons? Then he SHOULD be able to foresee why people make decisions and free will is a myth. Either he's not really a god, or he's incompetent or negligent when it comes to certain individuals.
Of course not, it'd be more like
Where the hell were you!? Jesus CHRIST so much shit went on down there. Slavery, Childhood bone cancer, do you know how wasps lay their eggs? It's god-damned nightmare fuel. You made one scary motherfucking place you crazy asshat! You realize that you have to be responsible for the Assyrians too? Did you just forget about those guys and how they conquered others? Of course where you DID show up, it lead to the fall of civilization and centuries of genocide..... So maybe it's probably for the best you stayed away or only showed up in toast.
Naw, don't bother with the halo and stuff, I know hell was only invented by the new kids and it was originally just anywhere "outside of heaven".
Unless you've changed stuff over the years. Obviously, I guess, as we're standing in heaven which only came about from Hellenistic religions' influence. I guess this whole godhood thing must have been an iterative process eh? Real learning experience? Well the latest trend of scientific materialism seems pretty alright. Are they your current "chosen people"? You know you're gonna catch shit for this stuff for an eternity right?
But seriously, Alzheimers? What were you thinking? That's just cruel.
(Nobody tell him, maybe he won't rat us out to the boss)
As opposed to "human intelligence" which is in reality is data analysis algorithms and gut feelings running on slow meatspace hardware, using fuzzy logic to arrive at a good enough probabilistic solution, rather than harder best solution, to a problem.
Hopefully it makes for a better meritocracy. But no-joke, if you hire a brilliant codemonkey who will lash out at anyone with the audacity of consuming unholy substances like caffeine... They're going to bring down the whole team. And the pro-diversity crowd isn't... completely crazy. Party composition is a thing. In a party of 5 wizards, the barbarian is going to shine the first time they meet a beholder. If there was just one metric we had to max out, and that was that, sure, hiring would be easy. But it's not that simple.
and how exactly?
Probably by going through multiple gates. No one that HR doesn't want to get past will even be shown to the AI_HIREBOT. Everyone the bot approves of still has to get pass the manager's approval gate. And ideally the team they'd be working with also get to judge them on personal interactions and give a thumbs up or thumbs down.
They're a lot more human by age 3 when they start talking. Before that they're mostly pooping footballs that you don't want to drop.
[5th generation, in the wild] That's where it starts to get to the 'no body knows' kind of territory.
Noooooo, we STILL have some idea of what could happen. You know, dogs. Broccoli. Starlink corn. We've got way more experience with things like this than you're letting on. I think you just need to browse wikipedia a bit. Or read a book on the subject. It's interesting stuff.
We don't even really understand how much of human 'junk DNA' is actually junk
Turns out there's more to DNA than protein-coding genes. All the... if-else statements around the driver API calls are also important. But yeah, I agree, epigenetics are weird and not well understood. And my GOD do the "scientific journalists" not help in that regard.
Not that all the effect will be bad, but they sure won't all be good.
Agreed.
Wisdom teeth. The Superior laryngeal nerve which loops around the Aorta for no reason. Cells that off themselves sounds pretty terrible, but when they refuse to die cancer kinda sucks. All the security holes that allow virus's to make us sick. Removing the code virus's have inserted into our DNA might be a good idea, but of course by this point we might be making use of it. (Yeah, btw, we've already been genetically altered). That thing were every cell division snaps off telomeres and leads to all the effects of ageing kinda sucks. I for one would like to be young forever. Hair loss, vision loss, joints wearing out. Pretty much everything that happens after 50. Hangnails, scar tissue, acme. I dunno about you but puberty could have gone smoother. I know it made sense back in the day, but parts of me really don't need to be THAT hairy. Really kind of a pain. While we're at it, I'm no longer hunting and gathering and don't really need this ring of fat around my belly. There's not days between meals.
Could we have some sort of bugzilla list with a bounty system? I'd really prefer the super-babies of the future to be open source rather than proprietary. Someone us don't want kids with mandatory apple logo birthmarks.
So he's shit at making people AND he sucks at deleting a repo branch? I mean, we're still here. And BOY OH BOY do I have a few things to say at his code review. Do we really want to leave the code-base in the hands of someone with such a long history of fuckups? And at this point I'm pretty sure it's abandonware.
No, I'm pretty sure nobility was a thing. "High born". We've been here before. Most of them didn't get their heads chopped off.
Yeah, it'll cause some social issues. It'll make that worse. But it will make a whole host of people better. It will cure illnesses. It will let the lame walk and the blind see. It will push the edges of what humans are capable of. It will do more good than harm. And it might not be restricted to only the billionaires' babies. It might be common. Imagine if every baby born in Africa could simply be immune to malaria.
oh shit, don't let him see what we've done to dogs.
Literally no one has any idea what the long term effect of this kind of thing is going to be.
No, there are a lot of people who have some idea of what this sort of tinkering will do. We call them geneticists, and they generally don't advocate tinkering around with human DNA on ethical grounds.
The specific effects are.... a lot like mutations. Mostly bad. Sometimes good. Sometimes even then there's bad side effects. Anything you put in a gam
If you want to know more about the current state of just what we know "Herding Hemingway's Cats" is a decent read. Thick, but insightful. I think it's a good read for programmers just due to the number of parallels between source code and programming, and DNA and genetics.
The breakthrough
You mean.... a guy doing something that's been done before but to a target no one else has used due to ethical concerns.
Unless there was some reason to believe CISPR wouldn't have worked on human DNA, this isn't a scientific breakthrough. At best it's a social one. Or possibly an ethical one, right through the floor.
Personally though, Bring on GATTAGA and super-babies. It will make us better. And worse, but mostly better.
What's the alternative? This isn't something you can stop, you can do it in a garage. And many people will be very heavily motivated to do it. We couldn't stop people from putting posion into themselves, we've no hope of stopping them from curing their children.
Typical code review bitched about some minor style thing while missing the blatantly obvious: #include that would break everything and fail to pick up stdio because I didn't escape the "" ...The "" ""! GodDAMNIT |,\.|,>|,.||>.,.,>..,>
There we go.Yes. Mashing the keyboard in anger is indeed how a percentage of coding is done.
To teach the drone to herd autonomously, Soon-Jo Chung, an associate professor of aerospace, and his colleagues [...] studied and derived a mathematical model of flocking dynamics to describe how flocks build and maintain formations, how they respond to threats along the edge of the flock, and how they then communicate that threat through the flock. Their work improves on algorithms designed for herding sheep, which only needed to work in two dimensions, instead of three. Once they were able to generate a mathematical description of flocking behaviors, the researchers reverse engineered it to see exactly how approaching external threats would be responded to by flocks, and then used that information to create a new herding algorithm that produces ideal flight paths for incoming drones to move the flock away from a protected airspace without dispersing it.
Sweet jesus, you fly back and forth around the area you don't want the birds to be at. They'll be pissed at the harassment and leave. Start in the middle, work your way out. Try to time it or send a signal so that the drone isn't exactly where you don't want flying things to be.