yes, true. the point of a smartphone is that you can theoretically have every damn feature. the iphone is such a restricted platform that you simply cannot create certain kinds of apps.
Except that it can you pay 100 dollars every year and overpay for mediocre apple hardware. Now it can't run arbitrary code from anywhere but considering how much malware exists for Android, most consumers wouldn't consider that a feature.
ftfy.
So your definition of smartphone isn't the commonly accepted one where users are allowed to do those things. Instead your defintion is one where users have to things they no longer have to do because of something called progress. So in your world do you have to hand crank your car to start it and need to adjust the engine timing otherwise it's not a true car?
no, my definition of a smartphone is where the user gets to choose (paying the same company thousands of bucks is not choice) what code runs on his device, not the manufacturer.
a smartphone is (or was supposed to be) a general purpose computer that fits in your hand and can connect to a cell network. although apple has (thru marketing) changed that definition to "phone with touchscreen".
I've been using my iPhone for about 3 years, and not once have I lamented the lack of a file manager. Now mind you, I'm not toting around spreadsheets, etc, but it's done a pretty fantastic job of managing my music, audiobooks, tasks, notes, as well as myriad other functions.
i used my sony walkman phone for 3 years too! i also did not lament the lack of a touchscreen, spreadsheets, etc. it too did a "pretty fantastic job of managing my music, audiobooks, tasks, notes, as well as myriad other functions". does that make it a smartphone? nope.
I'd like to know what arbitrary code you want that can't be put into an application. Or are you bothered by Apple's code vetting process?
i'd like to have control of my own device. i'd also like everyone to have control of their own devices. i care about other people because the runaway success of iphone impedes on my freedom too. i can't get a nice symbian or windows mobile phone right now. because corps now understand that selling is about tricking unthinking dumbasses, not actually providing a powerful smartphone.
iphones still cannot do basic smartphone stuff like run arbitrary code. its you who is non-technical, if you think iphone is a smartphone. iphone is a dumb phone designed for idiots who wanna look cool.
While I personally believe that taking into account licensing and other non-technical usage issues is vital when considering whether a piece of technology works for your purposes, actually conflating the technical and non-technical aspects is a step too far.
So I'm totally on board with hating on the App Store and Apple's control over the platform, and as a technical person that's exactly why I wouldn't buy an iPhone. Yet at the same time it is clearly a smartphone, can clearly run arbitrary code, and can clearly do a lot more than just voice, text and the web. That the arbitrary code must also be approved is a serious limitation imposed by Apple. Sucks, but doesn't make a smartphone not-a-smartphone.
it makes the code un-arbitrary. and imo calling something like this a smartphone is misleading.
iphones still cannot do basic smartphone stuff like run arbitrary code
First of all, they will run arbitrary code right out of the box if you have the developer kit and you have overpaid for apple hardware.
But I presume you mean that you can't download any old binary off of any old web site and run it. Apple would argue this is a feature, but I digress.
You certainly can run arbitrary code if you are completely retarded and just jailbreak the stupid thing. It's been 4 generations in 4 years, and all of them have been rooted successfully.
I said nothing other than that the iPhone hasn't been a status symbol for years. Your brain filled in all the ridiculousness required to leap all the way over here.
read the first line of my comment. i explain why your assertion is wrong.
Could it be because of the huge number of mature, high quality applications that attract users as opposed to technical pinheads?
is there any "mature, high quality application" that is available for ipad but not for android? i doubt it.
wrong. paying the same amount of money for an inferior product that does less is the definition of luxury products. let us compare ipad2 and galaxy tab 10: ipad has 768 X 1024 screen, tab has 1280 X 800. TAB WIN. size and wt almost identical TIE identical cpu TIE internal storage same options, tab supports microsd too TAB WIN ipad vga front camera, tab 2mp TAB WIN ipad rear cam 0.7mp, tab 3mp with flash and auto focus TAB WIN tab has much faster data access (21mbps theoretical) TAB WIN price identical, but ipad comes with an overpriced data plan TAB WIN apps: ipad only from itunes store, tab download from any android market or just get an executable
yup, right. awesome brand! i feel glad to be given the chance to be humiliated in public by the ceo of the company i bought my phone from, and that too in response to a genuine design defect. also, itunes. imo, the success of idevices brings out the decay in human civilization.
iphones still cannot do basic smartphone stuff like run arbitrary code. its you who is non-technical, if you think iphone is a smartphone. iphone is a dumb phone designed for idiots who wanna look cool. why else would they buy a phone that doesn't even have a fucking file manager? the thing with smartphones is 90% people who think they need a smartphone do not need it. they just need voice, text and the web. if you are one of these people, iphone is ideal. if not, there are many true smartphones out there.
There's very few java code in Firefox Mobile - just a a shim to interface Gecko C++ internals with android events, display and platform specific functionnality. And people who wrote this code are not "new kids that only know Java"
maybe they know some java and javascript, and nothing else. who else would ruin a nice idea like panorama by implementing it using fucking javascript?
imo, mere possesion of cp should not be a crime. the creation should be targeted. focusing on possession laws makes actual efforts to reduce child abuse less effective. similarly, it is stupid to punish storing malware. intentionally propagating it should be a crime.
the problem is that iran is not very stable, politically. if there is a coup (spelled right?) six months after the first nuke being made, chances are high that it would fall into hands that would gladly sell it to some nutjob terrorist group.
how many times do different people need to post the exact same comment? its ok, we get it. debka is propaganda. leave it alone people. or just contribute to the first thread that says this.
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yes, true. the point of a smartphone is that you can theoretically have every damn feature. the iphone is such a restricted platform that you simply cannot create certain kinds of apps.
Except that it can you pay 100 dollars every year and overpay for mediocre apple hardware. Now it can't run arbitrary code from anywhere but considering how much malware exists for Android, most consumers wouldn't consider that a feature.
ftfy.
So your definition of smartphone isn't the commonly accepted one where users are allowed to do those things. Instead your defintion is one where users have to things they no longer have to do because of something called progress. So in your world do you have to hand crank your car to start it and need to adjust the engine timing otherwise it's not a true car?
no, my definition of a smartphone is where the user gets to choose (paying the same company thousands of bucks is not choice) what code runs on his device, not the manufacturer.
a smartphone is (or was supposed to be) a general purpose computer that fits in your hand and can connect to a cell network. although apple has (thru marketing) changed that definition to "phone with touchscreen".
I've been using my iPhone for about 3 years, and not once have I lamented the lack of a file manager. Now mind you, I'm not toting around spreadsheets, etc, but it's done a pretty fantastic job of managing my music, audiobooks, tasks, notes, as well as myriad other functions.
i used my sony walkman phone for 3 years too! i also did not lament the lack of a touchscreen, spreadsheets, etc. it too did a "pretty fantastic job of managing my music, audiobooks, tasks, notes, as well as myriad other functions". does that make it a smartphone? nope.
I'd like to know what arbitrary code you want that can't be put into an application. Or are you bothered by Apple's code vetting process?
i'd like to have control of my own device. i'd also like everyone to have control of their own devices. i care about other people because the runaway success of iphone impedes on my freedom too. i can't get a nice symbian or windows mobile phone right now. because corps now understand that selling is about tricking unthinking dumbasses, not actually providing a powerful smartphone.
iphones still cannot do basic smartphone stuff like run arbitrary code. its you who is non-technical, if you think iphone is a smartphone. iphone is a dumb phone designed for idiots who wanna look cool.
While I personally believe that taking into account licensing and other non-technical usage issues is vital when considering whether a piece of technology works for your purposes, actually conflating the technical and non-technical aspects is a step too far.
So I'm totally on board with hating on the App Store and Apple's control over the platform, and as a technical person that's exactly why I wouldn't buy an iPhone. Yet at the same time it is clearly a smartphone, can clearly run arbitrary code, and can clearly do a lot more than just voice, text and the web. That the arbitrary code must also be approved is a serious limitation imposed by Apple. Sucks, but doesn't make a smartphone not-a-smartphone.
it makes the code un-arbitrary. and imo calling something like this a smartphone is misleading.
iphones still cannot do basic smartphone stuff like run arbitrary code
First of all, they will run arbitrary code right out of the box if you have the developer kit and you have overpaid for apple hardware.
But I presume you mean that you can't download any old binary off of any old web site and run it. Apple would argue this is a feature, but I digress.
You certainly can run arbitrary code if you are completely retarded and just jailbreak the stupid thing. It's been 4 generations in 4 years, and all of them have been rooted successfully.
ftfy
no, because superior products do not always sell better.
I said nothing other than that the iPhone hasn't been a status symbol for years. Your brain filled in all the ridiculousness required to leap all the way over here.
read the first line of my comment. i explain why your assertion is wrong.
Could it be because of the huge number of mature, high quality applications that attract users as opposed to technical pinheads?
is there any "mature, high quality application" that is available for ipad but not for android? i doubt it.
this is bullshit. source please.
wrong. paying the same amount of money for an inferior product that does less is the definition of luxury products.
let us compare ipad2 and galaxy tab 10:
ipad has 768 X 1024 screen, tab has 1280 X 800. TAB WIN.
size and wt almost identical TIE
identical cpu TIE
internal storage same options, tab supports microsd too TAB WIN
ipad vga front camera, tab 2mp TAB WIN
ipad rear cam 0.7mp, tab 3mp with flash and auto focus TAB WIN
tab has much faster data access (21mbps theoretical) TAB WIN
price identical, but ipad comes with an overpriced data plan TAB WIN
apps: ipad only from itunes store, tab download from any android market or just get an executable
now explain to me why ipad sells more.
yup, right. awesome brand! i feel glad to be given the chance to be humiliated in public by the ceo of the company i bought my phone from, and that too in response to a genuine design defect. also, itunes. imo, the success of idevices brings out the decay in human civilization.
iphones still cannot do basic smartphone stuff like run arbitrary code. its you who is non-technical, if you think iphone is a smartphone. iphone is a dumb phone designed for idiots who wanna look cool. why else would they buy a phone that doesn't even have a fucking file manager? the thing with smartphones is 90% people who think they need a smartphone do not need it. they just need voice, text and the web. if you are one of these people, iphone is ideal. if not, there are many true smartphones out there.
There's very few java code in Firefox Mobile - just a a shim to interface Gecko C++ internals with android events, display and platform specific functionnality.
And people who wrote this code are not "new kids that only know Java"
maybe they know some java and javascript, and nothing else. who else would ruin a nice idea like panorama by implementing it using fucking javascript?
does the beta work better than the android stock browser or firefox stable?
also, 240x360 screens are not supported :(
and symantec and mcafee. also, apple.
you can steal as much as you want, just don't pretend to be someone else while paying for your shopping.
imo, mere possesion of cp should not be a crime. the creation should be targeted. focusing on possession laws makes actual efforts to reduce child abuse less effective. similarly, it is stupid to punish storing malware. intentionally propagating it should be a crime.
the problem is that iran is not very stable, politically. if there is a coup (spelled right?) six months after the first nuke being made, chances are high that it would fall into hands that would gladly sell it to some nutjob terrorist group.
seems to me it might be cheaper to replace everything.
and use what, then? mac os? which runs only on approved hardware? or linux, which...well linux would have actually worked better.
how many times do different people need to post the exact same comment? its ok, we get it. debka is propaganda. leave it alone people. or just contribute to the first thread that says this.
its not 'fun for nerds. stuff that might matter', its 'news'.
all i've heard is that an indian comm satellite (which somehow used similar siemens hardware) was knocked out. but nothing else.
since /. posts stuff reported by fucking gizmodo, debka sounds highly credible.
iran cannot suddenly go from zero nuclear tech to h-bombs on intercontinental missiles. so that's highly unlikely to happen.