This particular law is codified into the foundational fabric of the document which gives any power whatsoever to said government. Said document explicitly states that any and all powers and authorities not explicitly granted to it by that document or by legal bodies produced through the procscribed proecess therein, are reserved to the individual states and citizens respectively.
The government has therefor already denied itself such authority, and granted authority to the states and private citizens to enforce that restriction.
And you, mr kristopeit, are an ignorant fool. I doubt anyone else on \. would assert anything to the contrary on that statement. As such, you needn't reply.
Isn't one of the requirements for legal action the notification of what specific charges one has filed against him, for the purposes of a speedy and competent defence?
Since when does the government have the authority to conduct secret searches, siezures, and investigations of private citizens without disclosure of an offical charge?
I can tell you don't work in manufacturing. There is a reason why even with CNC mills and lathes, the machine operator is an integral component.
That reason is because computer control systems used for manufacturing fuck up, and do so frequently.
A fully robotic factory is currently a pipdream, and if it ever became possible, it would place thousands of people out of work.
To build a space colony on the moon or on mars, the only sensible way to do it would be to soft land all the parts, tools, and heavy equipment there, then send a dual purpose shuttle\shelter ship containing workers, food, and supplies on a one way trip. The workers live in the landed shuttle while they build the base, then move in.
No other way is remotely possible with current machine intelligence or technology.
It still looks like the real arguments for and against sending humans to live and work at permanent space colonies are ones of pure PR.
On the one hand, you have the "Nya nya! We built one first!" Dick waving type PR, and the other, which I suspect holds more weight, is the "you sent joe sixpack and everything he finds necessary to live and work into space to clutter up another planet. Bravo." type PR.
This is because a space colony is much more than scientists, engineers, and MIT grad astronauts. A space colony is welders, riveters, janitors, (hookers, they WILL turn up), and all the other blue collar labor needed to have things built, and further, all the things they need to be happy doing it, like beer, porn, sports, etc.
The logistics of builing a bonafide space colony are astronomical in comparison to sending robots, even absurdly priced ones, and the robots don't demand hookers and beer.
The real reason why an actual colony is unlikely to be built by any world government is exactly that reason. No self respecting politician wants to be seen as supporting that kind of lifestyle, or worse, showing segregationalist eliteism by screening for only "cookie cutter straight laced" types, regardless of other work qualifications. (That would be a violation of equal employment laws...)
This makes the issue a poisonous one to politicians and governments. They sent astronauts, since those were already on a silver PR platter as being ivy league types. They will never send joe sixpack into space, as long as they can avoid it.
GDP is a statistic of total output, both in terms of products produced/sold, and of services rendered.
It does not discrimante against services, in that respect.
Clamping the inflation of currency to GDP would only have the effect of preventing currency from being printed carte blanc. It would be an anti-inflation measure, with builtin constraints against runaway deflation. (As long as you have people, and time, you can perform services, even without consuming material resources, as per production. The constraint would simply prevent exorbitant fees from being leveled for such services rendered.)
Currency as a means of universal exchange would still be implemented, as doing away with that currency would suffer the same scarcity issues as basing the currency on physical properties, such as gold or silver.
Like I said, the problem is a complex one. OI am not convinced there even *is* a solution thar does not carry with it some intractable penalty. The best solution from that perspective might be a compromise of tolerance toward the plutocracy in exchange for powerful concessions against the same, a la the magna carta in great brittain. This way you have a syste that encourages the growth of wealth, but also limits the power of the rediculously wealthy from unduly compromising the governance of the nation.
Agreed. Campaign finance reforms and representative term limits would be ideal concessions for this social movement to demand, as their implementation are unlikely to manifest through any other means, and are a necessary starting point for financial system and governmental reforms.
Other concessions that might prove beneficial would be more strict enforcement of conflict of interest laws, and protections and empowerments for non-government watchdog groups to police problems with abusive legislation and regulatory capture. (Favorite instruments of our current crop of plutocrats.) (Note, the latter watchdog groups would only be empowered to overturn denials or redactions of information from books of accounts, or established policies. Eg "national security" would not be sufficient to stonewall these watchdogs. The groups themselves would have no other power than the power to inform the voting public, and to do so without reprisal. Essentially legalized versions of wikileaks.)
The problem, is that "wealth" in the modern age is actually an abstraction of the labor of other prople.
You go to work, you get reimbursed for that labor with money. You spend that money for other people's labor.
In and of itself, that isn't a terrifically bad thing.
The problem manifests when such indebtedness can be conjured from thin air, as per the banking system.
This allows a small handful of high capital holding interests to artificially inflate the amount of labor "owed" to them, via their holdings as currency.
Currency should not be so artifically inflated, but should instead be based exclusively by GDP. (The use of a fixed currency like the value of gold won't work, as the natural scarcity of that commodity causes banking crashes like in the 30s.) GDP is a direct correlate to the actual power and value of that labor. This would prevent the creation of "value" from null services, like the creation of currency via loan agreements as per modern us banking.
This alone would not solve the problem, as the very same people would simply adjust their strategies, and still accumulate power in the form of currency. Another limiting factor would be the abolishment of speculation, which would kill the stock market as it currently exists, would eliminate the "short term gains to sate the greed of shareholders" problem, and would greatly limit the speed at which plutocrats emerge, thus limiting their innate power. (It suddenly becomes less profitable to buy politicians, when the rate your coffers fill is less than the prices demanded to buy legislation. You have to be much more picky in which votes you attempt to buy.)
Coupled with campaign finance reforms, and term limits for senators and representatives, and 90% of the problem would be corrected.
The point was lack of diversity, through arbitrary restrictions.
Lack of diversity = desert.
Look at your single example for a dev kit. One flavor. One color of sand.
Look outside the garden. GCC, and its associated IDEs, like Bloodshed. The borland compiler, if that is your thing. Intel's compiler, on and on.
If you want something other than white sand, (with perfectly beveled, square grains) or approved cacti, you have to pay a fee to get it in. Yoy want roses? Sorry, this is the iDesert.
The same approach will soon be in full effect on desktop devices as well.
Apple's walled garden is the desert, with its insistence upon conformity, regularity, and compliance. It lacks diversity, and openly segregates. Compared to the diveristy of the wild meadow, the walled garden is barren desert.
I think you have your analogies backwards, friend.
The cult of jobs needs to think and act for themselves, and stop deifying the dead.
Steve was a human being, with human interests. Creating a walled garden appealed to both his own financial interests, and the interests of consumers for simpler (eg, "easier to use") devices.
I don't need to point out the deleterious effects of that compromise, as others have already done a fantastic job of pointing that out. What I will point out instead is that jobs's "vision" for the future of mobile and desktop devices is a sterile, gleaming desert, with only one kind of sand, and only approved forms of cactus.
The metaphorical counterpart in foss is not a lush garden. It is instead a disordered plot of ground covered in every species of plant, both flower and weed, that can be imagined, sprouting up without rhyme or reason other than the emergent order created by group collaboration, and spreading over the countryside.
Each has some desirable qualities:
The desert has an austere stillness and regularity to it, and you don't have to worry so much about stickers. It gleams in the setting sun of the evening, and sparkles during the day.
The feral patch of vegetation clawing all over the countryside has its own perks. You can look, look again, and each place you look you will find something unique and special. Wildflowers mix with cockleburrs. Green grass and stickers. Roses, cactus, lillies and orchids. All of the good, and all of the bad vying with each other in the eternal struggles of life.
Given the choice, I would choose the weed patch. It has everything you could ask for, and only requires you to pay attention to where you step.
I don't appreciate Steve's use of herbacide, transforming my patch of weeds into sterile desert, regardless of the utility and simplicity it offers. I don't like that vision.
Even the stickers aren't wholly ugly, or without merit or use. You simply have to understand them to see it.
For those that don't want to watch where they put their feet, ow what plants they grasp, the desert is good. For those the desire diveristy and don't mind a few prickles for their freedoms, the weed patch is king.
Steve's sin was to loudly and boustroisly start fumigating the weeds, and insisting it was better. Like all visions held by visionary men, it is faulted.
Great. The wold would greatly benefit from non IP encumbered blueprints, technical specifications, publications of farming practices and food industry knowledge.
Especially true since blueprints are for the most part wrapped up in iron clad license agreements, technical specifications are usually paywalled by orgs like the ASME, complex publications on farming practices through academic paywalls, and food industry knowledge by trade secrets.
What, you thought people openly talk about such things like they do about software at places like freenode on IRC, or through public repositories like sourceforge?
Rest assured that if they did, those respective industries and players would amass an army of lawyers and lobbyists to crush not only the infrastructure of such sharing, but also the sharers themselves, and would whine to government about all the jobs that would be "lost" due to the loss of their slice of the IP pie.
Oh wait, you were just being a facetious troll weren't you? You do realize that the gpl does more for your freedom than you could ever imagine, right?
Why else do you think so many monsters attack them from the sea? What with global warming altering ocean currents, and the radioactive seawater from nearby Japan, how is it possible that they could be from anywhere ELSE but Australia?
Be that as it may, a contact of mine from QLD insists that he had never even heard of the diminutive superheroines until I started asking about them, so they must be quite good at press manipulation down there.
Still, the energies needed to induce eddies in the platters at several meters distance, through mild paramagnetic materials like aluminum, would be "accutely noticable" due to the inverse square law being in effect.
People would be seeing stars after walking through the room, if not outright having siezures. This is because eddies would be generated inside their bains as they moved through the field, and they would be functionally closer to the source of said fields than the disc platters, so the field strength would be functionally higher.
People still use magnetic mines? (Then again, I suppose if it works and is cheap, it will stay popular.)
Anyway, the idea was that a battleship is hugely massive and hard to degauss compared to a few girders in a drywall construction home.
Degaussing the home is therefor quite feasible, and there should be no need to replace the house, unless the magnetism is recurring, and if that is the case, what is causing it?
I did not intend to assert that degaussing naval vessels was a lost art.
but the casing of (all?) commercial HDDs is designed to attenuate magnetic fields. this is because there is a great big honking rare earth magnet built right into the drive, just inches away from the platter. It is used to drive the voice coil actuator that moves the head around. Having that just a few inches away from floppy diskette drives (now a rarity, but still) without such attenuation would have been "Bad, M'kay."
to not only have sufficient magnetic flux at the platter surface, but also be sufficient to cause electrical eddies inside the platters due to the rotation, the walls would have to be several million tesla in magnetic potential.
Flying forks and hallucenations would be occuring long before this would become a problem.
The navy used to degauss whole fucking battleships in the second world war.
You can even buy commerical degaussing wands for repairing old crt deflection plates reasonably cheap, now that crt is essentially a dead technology. My old employer had several for just this purpose.
What I want to know is how the hell the joists picked up such a magnetic potential in the first place.
Sadly, this business practice indicates a financial incentive for oracle to lie to high profile clients in order to charge them extra.
If only other high profile clients would take heed of this and avoid oracle like plague, rather than thinking the practice will stop as a result of this settlement.
Business practices exist as the basis by which that company operates. Being shown to be a defrauder like this, shows that oracle relies on such practices, and are not likely to change.
(Quite frankly, given the sociopathic nature of oracle's ceo, I am not surprised by this development.)
Actually I am more a ST nerd, but DW is nice variety.
I was more approaching it from the "70 years from now, how will cultural historians view the "dalek mania" phenomenon of the 70s in the UK, given the destruction of the original material" angle.
Much like current classical period historians lament the loss of "trite, usless shite" like the vulgar satyr comedies alluded to by ancient historians.
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This particular law is codified into the foundational fabric of the document which gives any power whatsoever to said government. Said document explicitly states that any and all powers and authorities not explicitly granted to it by that document or by legal bodies produced through the procscribed proecess therein, are reserved to the individual states and citizens respectively.
The government has therefor already denied itself such authority, and granted authority to the states and private citizens to enforce that restriction.
And you, mr kristopeit, are an ignorant fool. I doubt anyone else on \. would assert anything to the contrary on that statement. As such, you needn't reply.
Isn't one of the requirements for legal action the notification of what specific charges one has filed against him, for the purposes of a speedy and competent defence?
Since when does the government have the authority to conduct secret searches, siezures, and investigations of private citizens without disclosure of an offical charge?
I can tell you don't work in manufacturing. There is a reason why even with CNC mills and lathes, the machine operator is an integral component.
That reason is because computer control systems used for manufacturing fuck up, and do so frequently.
A fully robotic factory is currently a pipdream, and if it ever became possible, it would place thousands of people out of work.
To build a space colony on the moon or on mars, the only sensible way to do it would be to soft land all the parts, tools, and heavy equipment there, then send a dual purpose shuttle\shelter ship containing workers, food, and supplies on a one way trip. The workers live in the landed shuttle while they build the base, then move in.
No other way is remotely possible with current machine intelligence or technology.
It still looks like the real arguments for and against sending humans to live and work at permanent space colonies are ones of pure PR.
On the one hand, you have the "Nya nya! We built one first!" Dick waving type PR, and the other, which I suspect holds more weight, is the "you sent joe sixpack and everything he finds necessary to live and work into space to clutter up another planet. Bravo." type PR.
This is because a space colony is much more than scientists, engineers, and MIT grad astronauts. A space colony is welders, riveters, janitors, (hookers, they WILL turn up), and all the other blue collar labor needed to have things built, and further, all the things they need to be happy doing it, like beer, porn, sports, etc.
The logistics of builing a bonafide space colony are astronomical in comparison to sending robots, even absurdly priced ones, and the robots don't demand hookers and beer.
The real reason why an actual colony is unlikely to be built by any world government is exactly that reason. No self respecting politician wants to be seen as supporting that kind of lifestyle, or worse, showing segregationalist eliteism by screening for only "cookie cutter straight laced" types, regardless of other work qualifications. (That would be a violation of equal employment laws...)
This makes the issue a poisonous one to politicians and governments. They sent astronauts, since those were already on a silver PR platter as being ivy league types. They will never send joe sixpack into space, as long as they can avoid it.
GDP is a statistic of total output, both in terms of products produced/sold, and of services rendered.
It does not discrimante against services, in that respect.
Clamping the inflation of currency to GDP would only have the effect of preventing currency from being printed carte blanc. It would be an anti-inflation measure, with builtin constraints against runaway deflation. (As long as you have people, and time, you can perform services, even without consuming material resources, as per production. The constraint would simply prevent exorbitant fees from being leveled for such services rendered.)
Currency as a means of universal exchange would still be implemented, as doing away with that currency would suffer the same scarcity issues as basing the currency on physical properties, such as gold or silver.
Like I said, the problem is a complex one. OI am not convinced there even *is* a solution thar does not carry with it some intractable penalty. The best solution from that perspective might be a compromise of tolerance toward the plutocracy in exchange for powerful concessions against the same, a la the magna carta in great brittain. This way you have a syste that encourages the growth of wealth, but also limits the power of the rediculously wealthy from unduly compromising the governance of the nation.
Agreed. Campaign finance reforms and representative term limits would be ideal concessions for this social movement to demand, as their implementation are unlikely to manifest through any other means, and are a necessary starting point for financial system and governmental reforms.
Other concessions that might prove beneficial would be more strict enforcement of conflict of interest laws, and protections and empowerments for non-government watchdog groups to police problems with abusive legislation and regulatory capture. (Favorite instruments of our current crop of plutocrats.) (Note, the latter watchdog groups would only be empowered to overturn denials or redactions of information from books of accounts, or established policies. Eg "national security" would not be sufficient to stonewall these watchdogs. The groups themselves would have no other power than the power to inform the voting public, and to do so without reprisal. Essentially legalized versions of wikileaks.)
The problem, is that "wealth" in the modern age is actually an abstraction of the labor of other prople.
You go to work, you get reimbursed for that labor with money. You spend that money for other people's labor.
In and of itself, that isn't a terrifically bad thing.
The problem manifests when such indebtedness can be conjured from thin air, as per the banking system.
This allows a small handful of high capital holding interests to artificially inflate the amount of labor "owed" to them, via their holdings as currency.
Currency should not be so artifically inflated, but should instead be based exclusively by GDP. (The use of a fixed currency like the value of gold won't work, as the natural scarcity of that commodity causes banking crashes like in the 30s.) GDP is a direct correlate to the actual power and value of that labor. This would prevent the creation of "value" from null services, like the creation of currency via loan agreements as per modern us banking.
This alone would not solve the problem, as the very same people would simply adjust their strategies, and still accumulate power in the form of currency. Another limiting factor would be the abolishment of speculation, which would kill the stock market as it currently exists, would eliminate the "short term gains to sate the greed of shareholders" problem, and would greatly limit the speed at which plutocrats emerge, thus limiting their innate power. (It suddenly becomes less profitable to buy politicians, when the rate your coffers fill is less than the prices demanded to buy legislation. You have to be much more picky in which votes you attempt to buy.)
Coupled with campaign finance reforms, and term limits for senators and representatives, and 90% of the problem would be corrected.
The point was lack of diversity, through arbitrary restrictions.
Lack of diversity = desert.
Look at your single example for a dev kit. One flavor. One color of sand.
Look outside the garden. GCC, and its associated IDEs, like Bloodshed. The borland compiler, if that is your thing. Intel's compiler, on and on.
If you want something other than white sand, (with perfectly beveled, square grains) or approved cacti, you have to pay a fee to get it in. Yoy want roses? Sorry, this is the iDesert.
The same approach will soon be in full effect on desktop devices as well.
That was the point.
With a 30% gross toll per purchase, and strict development guidelines.
Foss is not a desert.
It is a crawling field of weeds. Big difference.
Apple's walled garden is the desert, with its insistence upon conformity, regularity, and compliance. It lacks diversity, and openly segregates. Compared to the diveristy of the wild meadow, the walled garden is barren desert.
I think you have your analogies backwards, friend.
The cult of jobs needs to think and act for themselves, and stop deifying the dead.
Steve was a human being, with human interests. Creating a walled garden appealed to both his own financial interests, and the interests of consumers for simpler (eg, "easier to use") devices.
I don't need to point out the deleterious effects of that compromise, as others have already done a fantastic job of pointing that out. What I will point out instead is that jobs's "vision" for the future of mobile and desktop devices is a sterile, gleaming desert, with only one kind of sand, and only approved forms of cactus.
The metaphorical counterpart in foss is not a lush garden. It is instead a disordered plot of ground covered in every species of plant, both flower and weed, that can be imagined, sprouting up without rhyme or reason other than the emergent order created by group collaboration, and spreading over the countryside.
Each has some desirable qualities:
The desert has an austere stillness and regularity to it, and you don't have to worry so much about stickers. It gleams in the setting sun of the evening, and sparkles during the day.
The feral patch of vegetation clawing all over the countryside has its own perks. You can look, look again, and each place you look you will find something unique and special. Wildflowers mix with cockleburrs. Green grass and stickers. Roses, cactus, lillies and orchids. All of the good, and all of the bad vying with each other in the eternal struggles of life.
Given the choice, I would choose the weed patch. It has everything you could ask for, and only requires you to pay attention to where you step.
I don't appreciate Steve's use of herbacide, transforming my patch of weeds into sterile desert, regardless of the utility and simplicity it offers. I don't like that vision.
Even the stickers aren't wholly ugly, or without merit or use. You simply have to understand them to see it.
For those that don't want to watch where they put their feet, ow what plants they grasp, the desert is good. For those the desire diveristy and don't mind a few prickles for their freedoms, the weed patch is king.
Steve's sin was to loudly and boustroisly start fumigating the weeds, and insisting it was better. Like all visions held by visionary men, it is faulted.
Steve was a man, not a god, nor a titan.
He is dead now. Move on.
Great. The wold would greatly benefit from non IP encumbered blueprints, technical specifications, publications of farming practices and food industry knowledge.
Especially true since blueprints are for the most part wrapped up in iron clad license agreements, technical specifications are usually paywalled by orgs like the ASME, complex publications on farming practices through academic paywalls, and food industry knowledge by trade secrets.
What, you thought people openly talk about such things like they do about software at places like freenode on IRC, or through public repositories like sourceforge?
Rest assured that if they did, those respective industries and players would amass an army of lawyers and lobbyists to crush not only the infrastructure of such sharing, but also the sharers themselves, and would whine to government about all the jobs that would be "lost" due to the loss of their slice of the IP pie.
Oh wait, you were just being a facetious troll weren't you? You do realize that the gpl does more for your freedom than you could ever imagine, right?
Why else do you think so many monsters attack them from the sea? What with global warming altering ocean currents, and the radioactive seawater from nearby Japan, how is it possible that they could be from anywhere ELSE but Australia?
Be that as it may, a contact of mine from QLD insists that he had never even heard of the diminutive superheroines until I started asking about them, so they must be quite good at press manipulation down there.
That would be against the apple developer's agreement. :)
I mean jeeze, you aren't even allowed to make porn on idevices, and wmds are straight out.
My bad-
Still, the energies needed to induce eddies in the platters at several meters distance, through mild paramagnetic materials like aluminum, would be "accutely noticable" due to the inverse square law being in effect.
People would be seeing stars after walking through the room, if not outright having siezures. This is because eddies would be generated inside their bains as they moved through the field, and they would be functionally closer to the source of said fields than the disc platters, so the field strength would be functionally higher.
People still use magnetic mines? (Then again, I suppose if it works and is cheap, it will stay popular.)
Anyway, the idea was that a battleship is hugely massive and hard to degauss compared to a few girders in a drywall construction home.
Degaussing the home is therefor quite feasible, and there should be no need to replace the house, unless the magnetism is recurring, and if that is the case, what is causing it?
I did not intend to assert that degaussing naval vessels was a lost art.
but the casing of (all?) commercial HDDs is designed to attenuate magnetic fields. this is because there is a great big honking rare earth magnet built right into the drive, just inches away from the platter. It is used to drive the voice coil actuator that moves the head around. Having that just a few inches away from floppy diskette drives (now a rarity, but still) without such attenuation would have been "Bad, M'kay."
to not only have sufficient magnetic flux at the platter surface, but also be sufficient to cause electrical eddies inside the platters due to the rotation, the walls would have to be several million tesla in magnetic potential.
Flying forks and hallucenations would be occuring long before this would become a problem.
I don't know, but the mere thought of larry ellison as a demented bootyass tickling sock puppet is quite funny in and of itself.
It perfectly explains the business relationships Oracle gets into.
No shit.
The navy used to degauss whole fucking battleships in the second world war.
You can even buy commerical degaussing wands for repairing old crt deflection plates reasonably cheap, now that crt is essentially a dead technology. My old employer had several for just this purpose.
What I want to know is how the hell the joists picked up such a magnetic potential in the first place.
Larry ellison will blow cold clammy air on me then fuck me in the ass for daring to call him a sociopath?
Wow, and I thought he didn't care!
In other news:
Lol! Obvious troll is obvious!
You accepted oracle as a supplier of mission critical software, thus putting your nads in their vise to squeeze until you cough up the dough?
I thought the "source or GTFO" nature of the GPL only applied if you distributed the software?
Keeping a private modified repo that you don't distribute, as you mentioned above, would not compell you to release the source, as far as I can tell.
Now, if you were delivering enterprise software as a product based on gpl code, you are totally boned.
Sadly, this business practice indicates a financial incentive for oracle to lie to high profile clients in order to charge them extra.
If only other high profile clients would take heed of this and avoid oracle like plague, rather than thinking the practice will stop as a result of this settlement.
Business practices exist as the basis by which that company operates. Being shown to be a defrauder like this, shows that oracle relies on such practices, and are not likely to change.
(Quite frankly, given the sociopathic nature of oracle's ceo, I am not surprised by this development.)
Only true for asiatic languages, egyptian pictographs, cuneform, and ancient mayan.
We still wouldn't be able to read egyptian without the rosetta stone "PSA" proclaiming the treaty between egypt and greece, btw.
Actually I am more a ST nerd, but DW is nice variety.
I was more approaching it from the "70 years from now, how will cultural historians view the "dalek mania" phenomenon of the 70s in the UK, given the destruction of the original material" angle.
Much like current classical period historians lament the loss of "trite, usless shite" like the vulgar satyr comedies alluded to by ancient historians.