I would have to disagree with all the distros that are easy to install. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to install some of these, then ignore them since they work. People need to understand that software is buggy as hell, no matter what platform it is on. As programs and OS's bloat they will just have more vurnerabilities, and need to be constantly patched as fixes come out.
So I guess since they are supposed to provide access to free email, that they should be required to give me free stamps for my snail mail. I thought libraries were for research and entertainment through litrature. Not for sending my friends emails.
Did you even find out what ISPman does? It is not even a mail server, that is a seperate program. And with evetything put together doesn't even add up to more than a email/ldap solution.
It doesn't allow scheduling of meetings, resources, shared calanders, let alone conferencing and a host of other features.
Read the contract they signed to get into the conference.
14. Exhibitor Conduct. Retail sales are strictly prohibited during the
course of the Exhibition. Violation of this rule will result in the closure
of Exhibitor's booth. The distribution of samples, souvenirs,
publications and the like or sales promotion activities must be
conducted by Exhibitor within its booth. The distribution of any article
that interferes with the activities or obstructs access to neighboring
booths or that impedes aisles is prohibited. No article containing any
product other than the product or materials made or processed or
used by Exhibitor in his product or services may be distributed
without the permission of Management. Any act or conduct by
Exhibitor which, in the judgment of Management, interferes, disturbs
or endangers any other exhibitor or visitor, may be prohibited by
Management. Exhibitor may not serve or dispense any food,
refreshment or beverage of any kind in its booth without the prior
approval of Management.
part hereof as though duly incorporated herein and
subject to each and every one of the terms and conditions
herein set forth. Management retains the right to revise
and/or alter the Exhibition floor plan and/or reassign
Exhibitors as may be necessary.
Well I if MS was handing out stuff in front of the SLUG then it sounds like both groups should have been shutdown and kicked out. Reading the contract of the Conference you can easily see that this is unacceptable. Included below is the portion of the contract which you apparently don't know how to read.
14. Exhibitor Conduct. Retail sales are strictly prohibited during the
course of the Exhibition. Violation of this rule will result in the closure
of Exhibitor's booth. The distribution of samples, souvenirs,
publications and the like or sales promotion activities must be
conducted by Exhibitor within its booth. The distribution of any article
that interferes with the activities or obstructs access to neighboring
booths or that impedes aisles is prohibited. No article containing any
product other than the product or materials made or processed or
used by Exhibitor in his product or services may be distributed
without the permission of Management. Any act or conduct by
Exhibitor which, in the judgment of Management, interferes, disturbs
or endangers any other exhibitor or visitor, may be prohibited by
Management. Exhibitor may not serve or dispense any food,
refreshment or beverage of any kind in its booth without the prior
approval of Management.
part hereof as though duly incorporated herein and
subject to each and every one of the terms and conditions
herein set forth. Management retains the right to revise
and/or alter the Exhibition floor plan and/or reassign
Exhibitors as may be necessary.
Linux zelots like you give linux a bad name grow up and be more responsible don't sink to their level.
Even better their phone systems are programmed to hear something like you saying hello. If you pause about 3 sec before saying hello then their auto dialers get confisued thinking that there is a answering maching that is going to answer. If you give them the 3 sec. then they hang up thinking no one is there.
The polls were not closed at 7:00 anybody that was still in line had the chance to vote and that took almost another full hour. With people in the Panhandle waiting in line for another hour because of central time and they could have voted as late as 9:00 Est well after the Networks called the state for Gore. I wouldn't want to wait in line if it didn't make a difference.
But on the other hand if you belive what the media says then you are just as gulliable as every other moron out there.
People need to remember that these are projected winners by someone makeing and educated guess. Not solid facts and they can be wrong.
I don't see why everyone is still saying that Nader stole votes from Gore. Get a life. Gore and Bush both stole votes from Nader in that most people felt they had to make sure the other one didn't win.
I know I would have voted Nader but didn't want Gore to win, so I voted Bush.
I would think that with the elections being so close that the traffic would be a lot greater, since people will likely be looking for updated stats on how each race is going, and probably be doing this many times. Back in 1996 it wasn't as close and not as many people had access to view stats on line, much less there wasn't as much material back then as there is now.
People just need to sit back and relax, once they have voted they can't change anything by legal means, and should just go to bed and hear it the next day. But of couse due to overwelming needs for their latest fix of info, they just cant be patient.
Maybe on your network. But here we don't allow 443 from clients to get out to the network. IE can be set to use port 8080 for both HTTP and SSL connections it is unencrypted to the Proxy and then the proxy makes a secure connection to the server. This work well and easily gets around SSL internally. The User even gets a little lock icon to make see that it is secure when outside our network.
If you were on my network I wouldn't even need to use a keystroke recorder. To use the web you have to go through the a proxy, all other traffic is blocked. And your browser is setup to send plain text to the proxy, and the proxy then uses SSL between it and the site you are going to. Therefore even SSL traffic is easily recorded, and you are less the wiser.
You are incorrect if you are using their network to read you email where ever it may be you are using company resources and are bound by what ever they company wants to do with its network.
And a Compaq 8500 which takes up less rack space than and E450 Holds 8 faster CPU's 16GB of Memory and 11-64bit PCI hot pluggable slots, and onboard hardware raid. And it's a hell of a lot less expensive.
Soon we will be seeing some stories about overclockers with severe radiation burns because they took off the shielding of the P4 and overclocked it to 2Ghz, suffering radiation burns and maybe even a long and slow painful death. Or maybe they will replace their magnotron in their microwave with their P4 and start cooking while compiling a kernel.
It is not the credit card company that take the hit on this. It is the Merchant that accepted the card that looses out. The Bank just doesn't give them the money.
I really agree with you on their drivers. I have a G200 that worked great with NT4 but with W2K I am currently using the MS supplied drivers with no problems except less than spectacular performance. Matrox has had drivers out for the G200 since Feb. but they suck on Dual processor machines. After installing the drivers, my system crashes all to often under graphic load. I was looking at buying a newer matrox card because I like the sharpness and clarity of there analog output, but If I have to watch the screen draw well its time to move to something else.
Sun stands to benifit a lot since they have kept this out of the press for this long they have been able to sell a lot more E10K systems, than if they had this in the open when E10K's were just starting to sell. I would have killed the E10K if no one belived they they could get it to run stably.
The NDA the I heard of was that if you signed it then they would tell you more about the actual problem the 400Mhz CPU's were having. We have had many of them fail and they are all in a Data Center environment, installed by Sun.
Your are correct that the laws suck, and we need the governments to learn and create laws that would cover this, but the domains are not property.
The only reason that people can sue over domain names is for their trademarks, which protect the trademark holder from other people using it, either to get business away from them, or causing damage to that name. This has lead to companies getting domain names for their trademarks. But it has also let big companies with that trademark name take it from another company with that trademark.
And this is why they need to create new laws that will protect everyone not just people with money by using existing laws that don't make sense in the digital world.
There are Linux users that connect to MSN, it is no different than any other ISP. I don't care much for M$ either, but get your facts straight. Don't just assume something won't work if you are unable to make it work yourself.
I like that they are getting their act together with Linux drivers, but talk about one screwed up company who still doesn't have drivers out for W2K after 8 months. Sounds like they need to hire some more people to develop drivers.
If they take as long as they did with the W2K drivers then you won't see their final Linux version anytime soon. The only benifit is that you can get the source and fix it yourself before they will ever be done.
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I would have to disagree with all the distros that are easy to install. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to install some of these, then ignore them since they work. People need to understand that software is buggy as hell, no matter what platform it is on. As programs and OS's bloat they will just have more vurnerabilities, and need to be constantly patched as fixes come out.
So I guess since they are supposed to provide access to free email, that they should be required to give me free stamps for my snail mail. I thought libraries were for research and entertainment through litrature. Not for sending my friends emails.
Did you even find out what ISPman does? It is not even a mail server, that is a seperate program. And with evetything put together doesn't even add up to more than a email/ldap solution.
It doesn't allow scheduling of meetings, resources, shared calanders, let alone conferencing and a host of other features.
Read the contract they signed to get into the conference.
14. Exhibitor Conduct. Retail sales are strictly prohibited during the
course of the Exhibition. Violation of this rule will result in the closure
of Exhibitor's booth. The distribution of samples, souvenirs,
publications and the like or sales promotion activities must be
conducted by Exhibitor within its booth. The distribution of any article
that interferes with the activities or obstructs access to neighboring
booths or that impedes aisles is prohibited. No article containing any
product other than the product or materials made or processed or
used by Exhibitor in his product or services may be distributed
without the permission of Management. Any act or conduct by
Exhibitor which, in the judgment of Management, interferes, disturbs
or endangers any other exhibitor or visitor, may be prohibited by
Management. Exhibitor may not serve or dispense any food,
refreshment or beverage of any kind in its booth without the prior
approval of Management.
part hereof as though duly incorporated herein and
subject to each and every one of the terms and conditions
herein set forth. Management retains the right to revise
and/or alter the Exhibition floor plan and/or reassign
Exhibitors as may be necessary.
Well I if MS was handing out stuff in front of the SLUG then it sounds like both groups should have been shutdown and kicked out. Reading the contract of the Conference you can easily see that this is unacceptable. Included below is the portion of the contract which you apparently don't know how to read.
14. Exhibitor Conduct. Retail sales are strictly prohibited during the
course of the Exhibition. Violation of this rule will result in the closure
of Exhibitor's booth. The distribution of samples, souvenirs,
publications and the like or sales promotion activities must be
conducted by Exhibitor within its booth. The distribution of any article
that interferes with the activities or obstructs access to neighboring
booths or that impedes aisles is prohibited. No article containing any
product other than the product or materials made or processed or
used by Exhibitor in his product or services may be distributed
without the permission of Management. Any act or conduct by
Exhibitor which, in the judgment of Management, interferes, disturbs
or endangers any other exhibitor or visitor, may be prohibited by
Management. Exhibitor may not serve or dispense any food,
refreshment or beverage of any kind in its booth without the prior
approval of Management.
part hereof as though duly incorporated herein and
subject to each and every one of the terms and conditions
herein set forth. Management retains the right to revise
and/or alter the Exhibition floor plan and/or reassign
Exhibitors as may be necessary.
Linux zelots like you give linux a bad name grow up and be more responsible don't sink to their level.
Not anonymized for you flame throwing protection.
The problem is I can say good things about linux and don't have to back them up, or I can say bad things about MS and not have to back them up.
What does that have to say about the Slashdot crowd.
Not anonymized for your flame throwing skills.
Even better their phone systems are programmed to hear something like you saying hello. If you pause about 3 sec before saying hello then their auto dialers get confisued thinking that there is a answering maching that is going to answer. If you give them the 3 sec. then they hang up thinking no one is there.
This way you don't hang up on your friends.
So if I fold a poker hand with a royal flush, then I should get to replay the hand cause I didn't know what I was doing?
The polls were not closed at 7:00 anybody that was still in line had the chance to vote and that took almost another full hour. With people in the Panhandle waiting in line for another hour because of central time and they could have voted as late as 9:00 Est well after the Networks called the state for Gore. I wouldn't want to wait in line if it didn't make a difference.
But on the other hand if you belive what the media says then you are just as gulliable as every other moron out there.
People need to remember that these are projected winners by someone makeing and educated guess. Not solid facts and they can be wrong.
I don't see why everyone is still saying that Nader stole votes from Gore. Get a life. Gore and Bush both stole votes from Nader in that most people felt they had to make sure the other one didn't win.
I know I would have voted Nader but didn't want Gore to win, so I voted Bush.
I would think that with the elections being so close that the traffic would be a lot greater, since people will likely be looking for updated stats on how each race is going, and probably be doing this many times. Back in 1996 it wasn't as close and not as many people had access to view stats on line, much less there wasn't as much material back then as there is now.
People just need to sit back and relax, once they have voted they can't change anything by legal means, and should just go to bed and hear it the next day. But of couse due to overwelming needs for their latest fix of info, they just cant be patient.
When you are talking about servers the p3 can only do dual processing, while the xeon can go to 4 or 8 way processing with the right chips sets.
no sig
Maybe on your network. But here we don't allow 443 from clients to get out to the network. IE can be set to use port 8080 for both HTTP and SSL connections it is unencrypted to the Proxy and then the proxy makes a secure connection to the server. This work well and easily gets around SSL internally. The User even gets a little lock icon to make see that it is secure when outside our network.
If you were on my network I wouldn't even need to use a keystroke recorder. To use the web you have to go through the a proxy, all other traffic is blocked. And your browser is setup to send plain text to the proxy, and the proxy then uses SSL between it and the site you are going to. Therefore even SSL traffic is easily recorded, and you are less the wiser.
If you don't know the rules, don't play the game.
You are incorrect if you are using their network to read you email where ever it may be you are using company resources and are bound by what ever they company wants to do with its network.
If you don't like the rules don't play the game.
And a Compaq 8500 which takes up less rack space than and E450 Holds 8 faster CPU's 16GB of Memory and 11-64bit PCI hot pluggable slots, and onboard hardware raid. And it's a hell of a lot less expensive.
Twas a joke, but apparently a bad one.
Soon we will be seeing some stories about overclockers with severe radiation burns because they took off the shielding of the P4 and overclocked it to 2Ghz, suffering radiation burns and maybe even a long and slow painful death. Or maybe they will replace their magnotron in their microwave with their P4 and start cooking while compiling a kernel.
What will they think of next.
No sig, to lazy to make one up.
It is not the credit card company that take the hit on this. It is the Merchant that accepted the card that looses out. The Bank just doesn't give them the money.
I really agree with you on their drivers. I have a G200 that worked great with NT4 but with W2K I am currently using the MS supplied drivers with no problems except less than spectacular performance. Matrox has had drivers out for the G200 since Feb. but they suck on Dual processor machines. After installing the drivers, my system crashes all to often under graphic load. I was looking at buying a newer matrox card because I like the sharpness and clarity of there analog output, but If I have to watch the screen draw well its time to move to something else.
Just my 2cents worth.
How many people are going to post this garbage.
Ebay's front end web servers are NT, their backend systems are mostly Sun.
P.S. Some people actual use systems that don't run all on the same box or even operating system.
Sun stands to benifit a lot since they have kept this out of the press for this long they have been able to sell a lot more E10K systems, than if they had this in the open when E10K's were just starting to sell. I would have killed the E10K if no one belived they they could get it to run stably.
The NDA the I heard of was that if you signed it then they would tell you more about the actual problem the 400Mhz CPU's were having. We have had many of them fail and they are all in a Data Center environment, installed by Sun.
Your are correct that the laws suck, and we need the governments to learn and create laws that would cover this, but the domains are not property.
The only reason that people can sue over domain names is for their trademarks, which protect the trademark holder from other people using it, either to get business away from them, or causing damage to that name. This has lead to companies getting domain names for their trademarks. But it has also let big companies with that trademark name take it from another company with that trademark.
And this is why they need to create new laws that will protect everyone not just people with money by using existing laws that don't make sense in the digital world.
Asta la vista
There are Linux users that connect to MSN, it is no different than any other ISP. I don't care much for M$ either, but get your facts straight. Don't just assume something won't work if you are unable to make it work yourself.
Sig to stupid to use.
I like that they are getting their act together with Linux drivers, but talk about one screwed up company who still doesn't have drivers out for W2K after 8 months. Sounds like they need to hire some more people to develop drivers.
If they take as long as they did with the W2K drivers then you won't see their final Linux version anytime soon. The only benifit is that you can get the source and fix it yourself before they will ever be done.