Same here in Finland, though personally I think every apartment I have rented has had light bulbs already there when I've moved in.
I'm not sure if the landlord here is required to provide them before renting (pretty sure it's not mandatory) but the occupant does not have to leave the bulbs in.
Stupid people cause other people, like their children, damage by dying stupidly or raising children to believe seatbelts are "for pussies" and they cost other people money dying stupidly. This is different from skydiving and trash food in that not wearing seatbelt doesn't provide any extra satisfaction nor do people lose any real freedom in being forced to use them - I'm sure that many dumnasses don't agree, but they should just grow up and focus on something real, like for example giving people the freedom and right to get euthanized instead of fighting for rights to die stupidly for no good reasons.
However the reason for high prices should be clear to anyone, and it has more to do with long lifetime than manufacturing costs. Still it's a way better deal for customers.
Expect cheaper models coming out when they find the way to implement planned obsolescence with new technology...
Not convinced there. 10 years ago, computers didn't last for 10 years, now they do.
Really? Count me amazed for I have seen less than 5 years old computers break down, yet I have almost 13 years old laptop running 24/7 (yes, I know it's awful waste of energy, I shouldnt't, and I will not for long keep it running like that) with all parts except the battery (which is indeed dead) running as good as new,
Also I have IBM PS/1 286 computer bought in '91 still running good as new, including the trusty 30 or 40MB HD,
How about we take this logic and apply it to alcohol (as it relates to deaths due to drunk driving)? Any takers? If not, why not?
Unlike prohibition, stricter gun laws, like ones we have in Finland (note, not total ban of any and all firearms), are known to actually work. As does laws against drunk driving.
And no, the fact that "gun crimes" still happen (it's pretty rare here though, even inside organized crime business) does not mean it doesn't work, unless you are suggesting that crime existing means laws don't work at all:p
He wasn't the owner of the gun, he was underage, so someone else owned the gun. He legally could not buy ammunition, that bit about underage again.
And in Finland where we have much stricter gun laws the kid couldn't have gotten the gun by any legal means, if stored so that he could get it and/or ammunition for it the owner would also be facing sentence.
OMFG, what a delucion you have! You have low violent crime rates? Bwahaha, give me a break.
And yes, I feel perfectly happy - and safe - living here in Finland where we have much stricter gun laws and much smaller violent crime rates, thank you.
Time for all gun grabbing advocates to have THEIR police disarmed and their towns simply declared 'gun free' to get to experience themseves what they force on others.
Who exactly is shouting for disarmament of the police and where, trollboy?
Indeed - and had the whole thing been released at once it would now be ancient history for most people, who wouldn't even know but a small part of the whole thing.
Sure, people like me for example would know and remember the whole thing and never forget - however as most people would not it would server more as source of frustration seeing people *not* know/care about the whole thing.
latest law pushed by Feinstein that legalizes all NSA transgressions we've seen in latest months and mandates harsh penalties for both whistleblowers leaking inconvenient materials and journalists publishing such revelations. In short, Obama regime is now busy reinforcing its grip on what public should and shouldn't know.
Not addressing you but all those US zealots still calling USA (the only real) free country: This is yet another example how USA is, at great speed, losing the fundamental rights that belong to very definitions of "free country" - freedom of press in this case.
A country can't really be the leader of the free world while not being free world itself, no matter how much it tries (and succeeds) to make it's people believe it is.
And how arrogant is it to think that Europeans view "American ideals" as "Western ideals" - you are but one of many western countries and your ideals greatly differ from the rest of us - including your northern neighbor.
What you do want is to promote American ideals to the rest of the world - and it's a unlucky non-coincidence that it always involves promoting policies damaging to us and distancing us from western and towards American policies, including benefiting USA at cost of our freedom and well being.
The sooner all Europeans realize that, the better for all concerned. Unfortunately democratic countries also share the problem that we don't always get the kind of leaders we want to and thought we were voting for - and there can never be a candidate that agrees with every one of your own opinions, one can only try and pick one that seems to be closest to one.
As for your last sentence: I couldn't be happier if USA simply cut any and every political connections (including corporate lobbying) with, not only western, but all other countries.
- an opinion from Finland, part of the free world.
Sorry but 'Intellectual Property' is not a 'useful social construct' because it isn't property at all and conflates actual social constructs coded in law with real physical property. I can only assume you have bought in to the idea that copyright, patents, trademarks etc. are like 'real physical property' as opposed to use rights granted to the 'original producer' of the intellectual work in question. Copyright has nothing to do with patents, patents have nothing to do with trademarks, they can not all be labeled under the same rubric of 'intellectual property', none of them are 'property' in any way shape or form. And this is nothing at all like the difference between manslaughter & murder.
+1 The most sensible comment I've read here on concept of 'IP' so far.
I don't think that you could get much support from us europeans for paying your insanely expensive healthcare system for free mammograms, what with most of EU already having proper and free public healthcare system available to prevent much more than that. Security then, well yes, it's a circus.
Did not say non-existent violent crime rates, said much smaller. Learn to read, trollboy.
In Finland the occupant has not been required to leave bulbs in for at least as long as I know, if ever.
Same here in Finland, though personally I think every apartment I have rented has had light bulbs already there when I've moved in.
I'm not sure if the landlord here is required to provide them before renting (pretty sure it's not mandatory) but the occupant does not have to leave the bulbs in.
Stupid people cause other people, like their children, damage by dying stupidly or raising children to believe seatbelts are "for pussies" and they cost other people money dying stupidly. This is different from skydiving and trash food in that not wearing seatbelt doesn't provide any extra satisfaction nor do people lose any real freedom in being forced to use them - I'm sure that many dumnasses don't agree, but they should just grow up and focus on something real, like for example giving people the freedom and right to get euthanized instead of fighting for rights to die stupidly for no good reasons.
The correct link for my post is, of course http://conspiracy.wikia.com/wiki/Light_bulb_conspiracy.
Come on, it's not like they want to kill the goose that lay golden egg.
However the reason for high prices should be clear to anyone, and it has more to do with long lifetime than manufacturing costs. Still it's a way better deal for customers.
Expect cheaper models coming out when they find the way to implement planned obsolescence with new technology...
Couldn't have said it better (and thus I wont), I'd like to mod you up if I just had the points to do it ;)
Really? Count me amazed for I have seen less than 5 years old computers break down, yet I have almost 13 years old laptop running 24/7 (yes, I know it's awful waste of energy, I shouldnt't, and I will not for long keep it running like that) with all parts except the battery (which is indeed dead) running as good as new,
Also I have IBM PS/1 286 computer bought in '91 still running good as new, including the trusty 30 or 40MB HD,
Sadly I don't think he understands how wasteful it is to get heat from electricity.
The values come less subjective when they have global effect on our ecosystem -> effect on other peoples lives.
Thank you, mod this +1, I'm calling for +5 Insightful :)
Unlike prohibition, stricter gun laws, like ones we have in Finland (note, not total ban of any and all firearms), are known to actually work. As does laws against drunk driving.
And no, the fact that "gun crimes" still happen (it's pretty rare here though, even inside organized crime business) does not mean it doesn't work, unless you are suggesting that crime existing means laws don't work at all :p
And in Finland where we have much stricter gun laws the kid couldn't have gotten the gun by any legal means, if stored so that he could get it and/or ammunition for it the owner would also be facing sentence.
You mean any dictators? Turns out he don't have to be socialist, just you're average to-be-dictator.
Mod this guy up! I call for +5 Informative.
OMFG, what a delucion you have! You have low violent crime rates? Bwahaha, give me a break.
And yes, I feel perfectly happy - and safe - living here in Finland where we have much stricter gun laws and much smaller violent crime rates, thank you.
Who exactly is shouting for disarmament of the police and where, trollboy?
Indeed - and had the whole thing been released at once it would now be ancient history for most people, who wouldn't even know but a small part of the whole thing.
Sure, people like me for example would know and remember the whole thing and never forget - however as most people would not it would server more as source of frustration seeing people *not* know/care about the whole thing.
Obviously this way it's better.
Not addressing you but all those US zealots still calling USA (the only real) free country:
This is yet another example how USA is, at great speed, losing the fundamental rights that belong to very definitions of "free country" - freedom of press in this case.
A country can't really be the leader of the free world while not being free world itself, no matter how much it tries (and succeeds) to make it's people believe it is.
And how arrogant is it to think that Europeans view "American ideals" as "Western ideals" - you are but one of many western countries and your ideals greatly differ from the rest of us - including your northern neighbor.
What you do want is to promote American ideals to the rest of the world - and it's a unlucky non-coincidence that it always involves promoting policies damaging to us and distancing us from western and towards American policies, including benefiting USA at cost of our freedom and well being.
The sooner all Europeans realize that, the better for all concerned. Unfortunately democratic countries also share the problem that we don't always get the kind of leaders we want to and thought we were voting for - and there can never be a candidate that agrees with every one of your own opinions, one can only try and pick one that seems to be closest to one.
As for your last sentence: I couldn't be happier if USA simply cut any and every political connections (including corporate lobbying) with, not only western, but all other countries.
- an opinion from Finland, part of the free world.
-1 Ignorant
You do know that there are many people developing FOSS software and getting paid for that, and anyone claiming otherwise is lying.
+1 Insightful
+1
The most sensible comment I've read here on concept of 'IP' so far.
I don't think that you could get much support from us europeans for paying your insanely expensive healthcare system for free mammograms, what with most of EU already having proper and free public healthcare system available to prevent much more than that.
Security then, well yes, it's a circus.
And during other witch hunts ordinary people were labeled as witches too.