... but SSL already fits the bill nicely. One serious problem with IPSEC is that it compresses the entire IP payload, including TCP headers. (At least the IPSEC RFCs I read a while ago did this, back in '96.) This is good if you really want your window size acknowledgments private, but when we move into a world of layer 4 switching it's not going to help at all (e.g. running TCP over ATM as opposed the current inefficient IP over ATM).
That said, the more protocols on NET4, the better--so best of wishes to the S/WAN people. I can't work on it at all because I'm entrapped in the U.S. (not that I mind =).
REXX, C, Bourne shell (eek), PL/I (don't laugh--Visual Age PL/I is fun!), COBOL (although not lately and not very well), BASIC/Basic, Intel IA-16, Intel IA-32, elisp (mostly Scheme), Java, and a couple other languages that I forget right now. Oh yes, SOM, that's it.
It will have one when the question is not NT or Linux, but a question of GNU vs. OpenBSD vs. FreeBSD vs. NetBSD vs. GNU/Linux vs. [insert future OS here].
I liked the article (although it failed to mention OpenBSD, which is the ideal BSD distribution for Intel (NetBSD from what I hear still rules for Macintosh/VAX platforms)). I do wish BSD would get more credit; BSD is still a better kernel in terms of raw performance than Linux. And BSD has been aroud much longer and is far more mature. OTOH, Linux has that dynamic element you only get when you have idealistic young kids working with it who think they're going to change the world (and don't realise what we think is cool was done by IBM on their System/3[68]s 25 years ago). In addition, it's hard to be a BSD newbie--the culture is cruel to the unknowledged.
That said, BSD is going to be with us for a while longer, if only because of the ease with which GNU/Linux binaries can be run on BSD and the ease with which device support can be migrated over (I won't address licencing issues here).
I haven't seen the Matrix movie, but I did hear on Systalk that FreeBSD was central to the production of said movie.
Cheers, Joshua "Still running OpenBSD on one PC" Rodd
The AS/400 uses a special machine language that's independent of the hardware machine language; OS/400 quickly and efficiently translates the pcode to machine code. Thus, the transition from proprietary chips to PowerPC chips in the new AS/400s was painless for customers: they didn't even know anything had changed except that their AS/400s were now faster.
If you've ever seen a movie running at 1380x1154 (strange res, I now!) in 16-bit color you would realise how truly beautiful it is. I once viewd a demo prog that did this. It was simply marvelous, and far beyond any T.V. set. (This was on a 14" inch display.) A smaller display increases the sharpness; the image felt photographic.
It's not just you. First,/. was really slow and then it suddenly speeded up. Next, I tried to moderate (as all are moderators now), but it wouldn't let me--it said I'd already posted, even though I hadn't.
Gates said that GNU (including Linux and BSD) are best oriented towards word processors and spreadsheets. In reality, that's where the Windows people usually complain--and Windows does have nice spreadsheet and word processing software (from a GUI standpoint).
Gates said that GNU (including Linux and BSD) are best oriented towards word processors and spreadsheets. In reality, that's where the Windows people usually complain--and Windows does have nice spreadsheet and word processing software (from a GUI standpoint).
One of the users who answered Mindcraft's questions to ``various Linux and Apache newsgroups'' told 'em to use FreeBSD if all they wanted was to see how many files they could download from Apache per second. Of course, they didn't do that. They're missing a basic tenet of GNU/Linux: you use what works best; a webserver for serving static images would obviously be best with FreeBSD, not Linux.
The net posts asking for help that are mentioned in the white paper appear to have been most likely made under the pseudonym:
will@whistlingfish.net
Use DejaNews.
No-one seems to have done that and talked about it. I did; h ere's the relevant link that lists all the messages from this guy on Usenet. Take a look at them and post what you think about them. It seems to me he hit a strange, obscure bug in GNU, Linux, or Apache, and it might have something to do with network adapter or SCSI adapter problems.
I keep getting `403 Too many users' errors when trying to go to wonko.com. Sometimes it also says `403 Can't find server root' or some other message about a messing file. Odd.
I've never seen the/. effect happen from a page with just a casual mention as a tagline before. Interesting.
Apache needs no special configurations options to use SMP, as it uses a seperate process (or pthread, nowadays) for each client. I assume this was static content, which isn't very CPU-intensive, so that shouldn't really be relevant.
I should also add that with $50,000 worth of hardware, no one in their right mind would be buying a Dell for a non-NT machine. Much better go with a real computer like an AS/400. I should also be noted that with that kind of hardware, you would run GNU/Linux on a Sun machine, and a $50,000 Sun machine has a much better I/O interface that would speed up intensive file serving (which is all this is--glorified file serving).
It would have been far more informative to see how well it could handle 100 simultaneous clients using a perl script of the complexity of (for example) the Slashdot engine. *That* would be an interesting comparison of Apache/Linux/GNU and Windows/IIS.
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It might be a good idea to set up a cron job or something similar to make sure you shutdown your system before the asteroid hits. (Perhaps we could include `doomsday.chron' and then use rdist(8) to distribute that file from a central astronomical observatory.) We want to avoid filesystem corruption on the last disks/machines ever to exist.
I'm personally far more worried about spending the rest of my life under opressive government rule (like 99% of the world's past denizens have spent their lives) than I am about sudden destruction. Hey, it ends quickly; persecution doesn't.
It's some thingie made by Seagate. It's rather simple to plug in: there is a slot in front of my computer where I slide the thing in and make sure the cables are slotted firmly (for maximal reliability, it interfaces with the host eletrically instead of mechanically). It has around 10GB of space and very fast access times--less than four milliseconds.
Each cartridge costs about $300 each new, but are available for much less from eBay (I recently got two of them for $150 each, including shipping and handling fee).
Best of all, no new driver support is needed--simply unmount the disk, power it off with hdparm(8), remove it, and take it with me.
It ways a 1/2 kilo, not much more than a Jaz disk, and holes twice as much. It uses the standard IDE interface, although SCSI models are also available.
No special controller cards are needed: it appears a standard ATAPI DISK or SCSI FIXED device to your IDE or SCSI controller.
I am, of course, talking about 10GB fixed disk, as I've been using since my first date with my PCjx's 10MB sidecar.
Microsoft can never kill GNU. They might be able to kill the current Linux hype, but they cannot even touch GNU. Why? Because GNU is free software (and Linux is also). No matter what Microsoft may do, I and my freed software comrades[1] will continue to develop, improve, and implement freed software to replace proprietary software. You can kill Netscape (or Apple) by killing their revenue stream--but when your revenue stream is funded by donations, or when you don't have a revenue stream (e.g. the Slackware folks or the Debian folks, to an extent), big, bad companies can't do much to hurt you, other than abuse patent law (which the courts will most likely reject).
You might want to take a look at the xclipboard(1) program. It does exactly what you want. Just mark the text in your xterm or whatever, go to xclipboard, and click both the left and right mouse button simultaneously in the blank area (or middle mouse button if you have one). Voìla! xclipboard also has the cool `Next' and `Prev' buttons to go back and forth between texts. (You can use Alt+C and Alt+V to copy and paste in Netscape and most other Motif programs.)
I cannot agree more. As I have moved to the freedom of GNU/Linux, I am overwhelemed with how much the system just plain likes me. I thought OS/2 liked me, and I thought I loved it. But it was cruel to me. It hates me. It doesn't work.
GNU/Linux does.
I've been with OS/2 long enough that I consider myself a `battered-spouse' OS/2 user. Like anyone in a codependent relationship, I continue to use OS/2, and it doesn't seem to know that I'm seeing another operating system (and a freed one at that).
I feel empowered. I'm in control. My computer is MINE!
(I do not mean to make light of domestic violence, as that is a terrible thing (as I should well now, being a survivor of some moderate violence myself in the past). I am simply drawing an analogy.)
By using Linux's RAID features you can achieve the same results as with LVM, so I don't see what LVM is offering. There is no slick GUI to administer the RAID, but a few hours spent alone with Tk could come up with something nice to add disks, rearrange partitions, etc.
What we need is the ext3 filesystem. This will support, among other things, integral distribution across volumes (which is something the LVM does quite nicely), resizing of partitions, possibly while the system is running (to add new fixed disks on the fly, as I am wont to do), and journalling. Journalling will banish the dreaded hour-long fsck from computing forever more. (The JFS is so good I use it exclusively when I work on XFree86 in OS/2, because when the Xserver kills my OS/2 box, I just poke the power and the UJFS.DLL CHKDSK takes about five seconds to run, as opposed to the five minutes HPFS CHKDSK took.)
I need to get involved with the ext3 project. I've got too many things to do right now, but I need to learn serious kernel hacking one day here.
Corporate clients NEED to have someone to sue if things go bad.
This is a favorite piece of FUD and almost the most inaccurate. Companies very rarely are able to sue an information technology vendor over buggy or not up-to-spec hardware and software. Services, on the other hand, are quite prone to lawsuits. A company wouldn't sue IBM if their S/390 came down--they would threaten to dump their $10 million support contracts and hardware lease contracts. Very rarely is the courtroom the place where customers resolve their operating system troubles.
Agreed. My father is a JOAT[1] on a large (1000 site) SCO application on point-of-sale systems around the country. To you give an idea of what SCO can do, they were running 50 COBOL developers on a three-way 486/33 system with 64MB of memory (this was an applicationDEC, which, BTW, is a nice piece of hardware). I would like to see any other system do that. This iss SCO SysV/386V3.2R4.2; they're working on upgrading to the latest version of UnixWare, but that is a lot of work and probably won't happen for a year or two. (The application here is using Micro Focus COBOL on 486/33 DECpc's with Maxpeed Maxtation terminals.)
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That said, the more protocols on NET4, the better--so best of wishes to the S/WAN people. I can't work on it at all because I'm entrapped in the U.S. (not that I mind =).
REXX, C, Bourne shell (eek), PL/I (don't laugh--Visual Age PL/I is fun!), COBOL (although not lately and not very well), BASIC/Basic, Intel IA-16, Intel IA-32, elisp (mostly Scheme), Java, and a couple other languages that I forget right now. Oh yes, SOM, that's it.
It's also a fair bit harder for a clueless newbie to set up; I don't recommend that a green user go out and install OpenBSD on their PC.
BSD still has a superior kernel in terms of raw forking speed.
It will have one when the question is not NT or Linux, but a question of GNU vs. OpenBSD vs. FreeBSD vs. NetBSD vs. GNU/Linux vs. [insert future OS here].
That said, BSD is going to be with us for a while longer, if only because of the ease with which GNU/Linux binaries can be run on BSD and the ease with which device support can be migrated over (I won't address licencing issues here).
I haven't seen the Matrix movie, but I did hear on Systalk that FreeBSD was central to the production of said movie.
Cheers,
Joshua "Still running OpenBSD on one PC" Rodd
The AS/400 uses a special machine language that's independent of the hardware machine language; OS/400 quickly and efficiently translates the pcode to machine code. Thus, the transition from proprietary chips to PowerPC chips in the new AS/400s was painless for customers: they didn't even know anything had changed except that their AS/400s were now faster.
If you've ever seen a movie running at 1380x1154 (strange res, I now!) in 16-bit color you would realise how truly beautiful it is. I once viewd a demo prog that did this. It was simply marvelous, and far beyond any T.V. set. (This was on a 14" inch display.) A smaller display increases the sharpness; the image felt photographic.
And then comments I knew I'd seen were gone.
Oh well, somebody has to debug MySQL!
Has Gates left his brain at home again?
Has Gates left his brain at home again?
One of the users who answered Mindcraft's questions to ``various Linux and Apache newsgroups'' told 'em to use FreeBSD if all they wanted was to see how many files they could download from Apache per second. Of course, they didn't do that. They're missing a basic tenet of GNU/Linux: you use what works best; a webserver for serving static images would obviously be best with FreeBSD, not Linux.
X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0b2; Windows NT 5.0; MS ITG IE5 internal)
That's IE5 running on Windows 2000. Interesting. I wonder what OS was *really* on the PowerEdge?
The net posts asking for help that are mentioned in the white paper appear to have been most likely made under the pseudonym:
will@whistlingfish.net
Use DejaNews.
No-one seems to have done that and talked about it. I did; h ere's the relevant link that lists all the messages from this guy on Usenet. Take a look at them and post what you think about them. It seems to me he hit a strange, obscure bug in GNU, Linux, or Apache, and it might have something to do with network adapter or SCSI adapter problems.
I've never seen the /. effect happen from a page with just a casual mention as a tagline before. Interesting.
I should also add that with $50,000 worth of hardware, no one in their right mind would be buying a Dell for a non-NT machine. Much better go with a real computer like an AS/400. I should also be noted that with that kind of hardware, you would run GNU/Linux on a Sun machine, and a $50,000 Sun machine has a much better I/O interface that would speed up intensive file serving (which is all this is--glorified file serving).
It would have been far more informative to see how well it could handle 100 simultaneous clients using a perl script of the complexity of (for example) the Slashdot engine. *That* would be an interesting comparison of Apache/Linux/GNU and Windows/IIS.
I'm personally far more worried about spending the rest of my life under opressive government rule (like 99% of the world's past denizens have spent their lives) than I am about sudden destruction. Hey, it ends quickly; persecution doesn't.
Arggh. s/ways/weighs/g\ns/holes/holds/g.
Each cartridge costs about $300 each new, but are available for much less from eBay (I recently got two of them for $150 each, including shipping and handling fee).
Best of all, no new driver support is needed--simply unmount the disk, power it off with hdparm(8), remove it, and take it with me.
It ways a 1/2 kilo, not much more than a Jaz disk, and holes twice as much. It uses the standard IDE interface, although SCSI models are also available.
No special controller cards are needed: it appears a standard ATAPI DISK or SCSI FIXED device to your IDE or SCSI controller.
I am, of course, talking about 10GB fixed disk, as I've been using since my first date with my PCjx's 10MB sidecar.
Cheers,
Joshua.
Microsoft can never kill GNU. They might be able to kill the current Linux hype, but they cannot even touch GNU. Why? Because GNU is free software (and Linux is also). No matter what Microsoft may do, I and my freed software comrades[1] will continue to develop, improve, and implement freed software to replace proprietary software. You can kill Netscape (or Apple) by killing their revenue stream--but when your revenue stream is funded by donations, or when you don't have a revenue stream (e.g. the Slackware folks or the Debian folks, to an extent), big, bad companies can't do much to hurt you, other than abuse patent law (which the courts will most likely reject).
You might want to take a look at the xclipboard(1) program. It does exactly what you want. Just mark the text in your xterm or whatever, go to xclipboard, and click both the left and right mouse button simultaneously in the blank area (or middle mouse button if you have one). Voìla! xclipboard also has the cool `Next' and `Prev' buttons to go back and forth between texts. (You can use Alt+C and Alt+V to copy and paste in Netscape and most other Motif programs.)
GNU/Linux does.
I've been with OS/2 long enough that I consider myself a `battered-spouse' OS/2 user. Like anyone in a codependent relationship, I continue to use OS/2, and it doesn't seem to know that I'm seeing another operating system (and a freed one at that).
I feel empowered. I'm in control. My computer is MINE!
(I do not mean to make light of domestic violence, as that is a terrible thing (as I should well now, being a survivor of some moderate violence myself in the past). I am simply drawing an analogy.)
Cheers,
Joshua.
And to think I missed that when I was using preview.
What we need is the ext3 filesystem. This will support, among other things, integral distribution across volumes (which is something the LVM does quite nicely), resizing of partitions, possibly while the system is running (to add new fixed disks on the fly, as I am wont to do), and journalling. Journalling will banish the dreaded hour-long fsck from computing forever more. (The JFS is so good I use it exclusively when I work on XFree86 in OS/2, because when the Xserver kills my OS/2 box, I just poke the power and the UJFS.DLL CHKDSK takes about five seconds to run, as opposed to the five minutes HPFS CHKDSK took.)
I need to get involved with the ext3 project. I've got too many things to do right now, but I need to learn serious kernel hacking one day here.
Cheers,
Joshua.
Corporate clients NEED to have someone to sue if things go bad.
This is a favorite piece of FUD and almost the most inaccurate. Companies very rarely are able to sue an information technology vendor over buggy or not up-to-spec hardware and software. Services, on the other hand, are quite prone to lawsuits.
A company wouldn't sue IBM if their S/390 came down--they would threaten to dump their $10 million support contracts and hardware lease contracts. Very rarely is the courtroom the place where customers resolve their operating system troubles.
Agreed. My father is a JOAT[1] on a large (1000 site) SCO application on point-of-sale systems around the country. To you give an idea of what SCO can do, they were running 50 COBOL developers on a three-way 486/33 system with 64MB of memory (this was an applicationDEC, which, BTW, is a nice piece of hardware). I would like to see any other system do that. This iss SCO SysV/386V3.2R4.2; they're working on upgrading to the latest version of UnixWare, but that is a lot of work and probably won't happen for a year or two. (The application here is using Micro Focus COBOL on 486/33 DECpc's with Maxpeed Maxtation terminals.)