I'd like to say that we have that whole "reason" thing going differentiating us from yeasts growing themselves to death. Lately, however, I have started to lose my hope in that regard...
To be more precise, malaria control is the main indication that DDT is indeed still allowed for. Where the hell did the crowd of DDT liars pop up from? I noticed their bullshit coming up with increased frequency since about two years. Wonder who set that meme in motion.
Oh my. A "social network of scientist." Hold the presses! Scientists cooperate! That is positively socialist!!! We need to put a stop to such nonsense!
You are, word for word, using the strategy Goebbels laid out. That is not a fallacy, that is a simple fact. If you do not like that fact, you might want to change your debating strategy and for a change deal in facts, not in lies. Btw. Goebbels was by no means dumb. Probably the most intelligent of that particular crowd of lowlifes. Which, however, does change nothing about the original point, you being a liar, repeating the lies other liars served you.
Ah, yeah. The good old poisoning the well argument combined with the Goebbels strategy of argumentation - repeat a lie until it becomes truth. At least you yourself do believe in it by now. Good job, liar.
Standard reaction to the prof coming in and going all "WTF are you guys doing smoking in the lab???" - "Uhm, errr... research. Magnetic susceptibility, or sumthing."
As a biochemist, I generally do not have major health concerns regarding what is going on in food chemistry these days. Stuff is indeed pretty safe. As someone who enjoys food, however, I posit that 99% of food chemistry is employed to sell crap to people and mask its crappiness. And that's why I don't usually eat food industry crap. My fridge is full with fresh produce, the occasional piece of free-range meat or poultry, I grow my own herbs and some vegetables on the limited space I have, and I cook some damn fine stuff that way. What exactly do I even need processed foods for?
Simply get a funnel, a paper filter, put in coffee, pour on the water, let drip into mug. Done. More or less a simple batch extraction compared to the percolation performed by most machines - and that's what keeps the acidity out. I never got the point of coffee makers.
Saul Zaentz does indeed own multiple EU trademarks on "Hobbit" and "The Hobbit", the relevant ones here covering classes 41, which contains entertainment services, and 43, gastronomical services.
True, but I have the suspicion that the amount of fossil fuels we use in agriculture will bite us in the arse by way of peak oil before it bites us in the arse by way of global warming.
Ah, yes. Engaging in academic discussion - you know, the thing where you just throw some ideas around, publish them, have a healthy debate with your peers - constitutes grounds for imprisonment now. Don't hold back, mate, just go all in with your anti-intellectualism. Why not just burn him on the stake while you are at it?
Listen, the tactics of repeating a lie until it becomes perceived truth has gotten a bit stale since the times of Goebbels. You might want to search for an alternate strategy. At least give us something more creative. It has become annoyingly boring at this point.
Fascinating that you sometimes need to quote a guy who at one point hallucinated being taken over by the prophet Elijah to some people, because he makes more sense than their ramblings, Scary, actually, given how often I have to use your quote myself.
"The observable state of a thing does not change directly and immediately because of his personal religion disagreeing with the observation. There may, however, be feedbacks and consequences caused by actions undertaken by him on the basis of his personal religion, which may alter said observable state."
Better? Mate, I write legal and technical crap all day, let me get away with some sloppy logic when I post at night after a couple of beers, ok?;)
Well, true, I give you that. The word "stupid" just lacks precision. Ideological entrenchment more often than not is not caused by lack of intellectual capacity, but rather by willful ignorance.
And here we go. "All other parameters equal". They are not. There is no straightforward dependency of revenue vs. tax rate. It is a highly complex multi variable dependency. Show me one curve based on RL data that shows a meaningful dependency of revenue on tax rate *alone*. Reducing the debate to the Laffer curve is argument by anal extraction.
Yes, agreed. I am complaining about the fact that the usual argument presented is "Laffer Curver therefore lower taxes". As you said, the actual problem is multivariate and there is no real meaningful model connecting tax rate, wealth and economic growth for any particular given situation. Therefore, the Laffer Curve *argument* is rather pointless, regardless of the validity of Laffer's work in the theoretical realm.
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I'd like to say that we have that whole "reason" thing going differentiating us from yeasts growing themselves to death. Lately, however, I have started to lose my hope in that regard...
To be more precise, malaria control is the main indication that DDT is indeed still allowed for. Where the hell did the crowd of DDT liars pop up from? I noticed their bullshit coming up with increased frequency since about two years. Wonder who set that meme in motion.
Seriously, learn what "fallacy" means. Pro-tip: it does NOT mean "fact I do not like".
Nice one! At least I am not the only one out there who likes some good linguistic punchline :D
Oh my. A "social network of scientist." Hold the presses! Scientists cooperate! That is positively socialist!!! We need to put a stop to such nonsense!
You are, word for word, using the strategy Goebbels laid out. That is not a fallacy, that is a simple fact. If you do not like that fact, you might want to change your debating strategy and for a change deal in facts, not in lies. Btw. Goebbels was by no means dumb. Probably the most intelligent of that particular crowd of lowlifes. Which, however, does change nothing about the original point, you being a liar, repeating the lies other liars served you.
Thanks, I knew I picked it up ages ago somewhere, but I had no idea about the source.
The climate denialists' poisoning of the wells has worked out. Everyone believes by now that "they are only doing it for the grant money".
Ah, yeah. The good old poisoning the well argument combined with the Goebbels strategy of argumentation - repeat a lie until it becomes truth. At least you yourself do believe in it by now. Good job, liar.
He did, didn't he. And we all know that verbing weirds language!
Standard reaction to the prof coming in and going all "WTF are you guys doing smoking in the lab???" - "Uhm, errr... research. Magnetic susceptibility, or sumthing."
As a biochemist, I generally do not have major health concerns regarding what is going on in food chemistry these days. Stuff is indeed pretty safe. As someone who enjoys food, however, I posit that 99% of food chemistry is employed to sell crap to people and mask its crappiness. And that's why I don't usually eat food industry crap. My fridge is full with fresh produce, the occasional piece of free-range meat or poultry, I grow my own herbs and some vegetables on the limited space I have, and I cook some damn fine stuff that way. What exactly do I even need processed foods for?
Simply get a funnel, a paper filter, put in coffee, pour on the water, let drip into mug. Done. More or less a simple batch extraction compared to the percolation performed by most machines - and that's what keeps the acidity out. I never got the point of coffee makers.
Saul Zaentz does indeed own multiple EU trademarks on "Hobbit" and "The Hobbit", the relevant ones here covering classes 41, which contains entertainment services, and 43, gastronomical services.
True, but I have the suspicion that the amount of fossil fuels we use in agriculture will bite us in the arse by way of peak oil before it bites us in the arse by way of global warming.
Ah, yes. Engaging in academic discussion - you know, the thing where you just throw some ideas around, publish them, have a healthy debate with your peers - constitutes grounds for imprisonment now. Don't hold back, mate, just go all in with your anti-intellectualism. Why not just burn him on the stake while you are at it?
Guess we just lost the whole field of statistical thermodynamics. The theory guys in the next building over will be thrilled...
Uh, as one poster above showed, water vapor contributes more than 5x what carbon dioxide does....
Good. Now learn about atmospheric retention times and the difference between forcings and feedbacks. Then, you might add something meaningful.
Listen, the tactics of repeating a lie until it becomes perceived truth has gotten a bit stale since the times of Goebbels. You might want to search for an alternate strategy. At least give us something more creative. It has become annoyingly boring at this point.
But, but, making up their own facts is what their whole propaganda machine runs on! And they are too big to fail!
Fascinating that you sometimes need to quote a guy who at one point hallucinated being taken over by the prophet Elijah to some people, because he makes more sense than their ramblings, Scary, actually, given how often I have to use your quote myself.
Very well.
"The observable state of a thing does not change directly and immediately because of his personal religion disagreeing with the observation. There may, however, be feedbacks and consequences caused by actions undertaken by him on the basis of his personal religion, which may alter said observable state."
Better? Mate, I write legal and technical crap all day, let me get away with some sloppy logic when I post at night after a couple of beers, ok? ;)
Well, true, I give you that. The word "stupid" just lacks precision. Ideological entrenchment more often than not is not caused by lack of intellectual capacity, but rather by willful ignorance.
And here we go. "All other parameters equal". They are not. There is no straightforward dependency of revenue vs. tax rate. It is a highly complex multi variable dependency. Show me one curve based on RL data that shows a meaningful dependency of revenue on tax rate *alone*. Reducing the debate to the Laffer curve is argument by anal extraction.
Yes, agreed. I am complaining about the fact that the usual argument presented is "Laffer Curver therefore lower taxes". As you said, the actual problem is multivariate and there is no real meaningful model connecting tax rate, wealth and economic growth for any particular given situation. Therefore, the Laffer Curve *argument* is rather pointless, regardless of the validity of Laffer's work in the theoretical realm.