You talking bout the cesium levels that exceed dose-rates that even the soviets, known for their care for the fellow citizen, decided to be high enough to evacuate, 30km from the plant? Hey, go on, take a vacation there and rid us of your stupidity please. The mods getting this to +3 may follow accordingly.
Give it up. You are dealing with liars, scum and their apologists. Nuclear power is the holy grail, so nothing CAN GO WRONG, EVER! Even if they have to falsify every record. The fanclub is even more disgusting that TEPCO, tbh.
Pebble bed existed as a research facility in Germany, at the Juelich site. And it was an utter failure. Possibly the most contaminated site in the country by now, depends on how the storage facility at Asse works out. As for liquid salt - cooling stuff with molten beryllium fluoride? How nuts can you get?
Hello, dear apologists! This is the crowd you are associating with. Feel in good company? Yes? Though so. Scum attracts scum. Shall I dig out all the "nothing happened here", "this is proof of nuclear safety", "no meltdown is happening" - posts from 4 weeks ago?
Why would they prepare? As long as everything runs smoothly, they rake in the cash. As soon as anything goes wrong, well, there's always the taxpayer. And why would they risk losing a costly robot when you can throw away human lives?
Depends. You can power it biochemically, I guess. Until then - plain batteries? RTGs? Whatever wÃrks. Running out of juice on your cyborg limbs might suck, though.... I give you that.
Why exactly is your love for that technology so great that you feel the need to defend those bumbling fools? Seriously, 5 weeks in and the best telemetry is a handheld geiger counter taped to a robot, watched by another robot, for like 20 minutes until they have to retreat because the cameras fog up? This is ridiculous.
It owes a lot to the military in the sense that the military has a tendency to maim people in quite creative way. Then some doctor has to find a way to fix it again.
Ehm, yes? What is your point? That is exaxtly what I am saying. Replace it. Work on alternatives. I didn't say that we are necessarily doooooomed, but we gotta work on alternatives,as you say.
The interesting question is what we are going to do when such artificial limbs are actually better than the real deal. Voluntary amputation to get an upgrade? Interesting times....
See, that's why it is brillant. Those glasses are designed to rip of luddite idiots who, in utter futility, try to prove their sophistication by calling everything novel a "fad". The glasses are aimed at the same demographic as this article. Can't rip em off enough, in my opinion.
Fly ash is treated as serious pollutant like, well, what do we do with it again? Yes, we use it as filler in concrete and blacktop. The heavy metal content is pretty much sequestered into clay minerals and glass-like compounds, and the radioactivity of coal ash is in the same order of magnitude like soil or fertilizer. How about you develop a spine and stop telling the lies your masters fed you?
Well, I completely agree that we are dealing with just different levels of suck if we are comparing oil to nuclear - but that should be an incentive to massively research renewables and perhaps fusion. As to the competence of TEPCO - seriously? Five weeks after the incident, the best telemetry we get is a counter taped to one robot watched by a second robot's camera? A first year engineering student could hack something better in one weekend. They are bumbling fools. Discharging radioactive water into the ocean? Hey, we dump a couple of sandbags full of zeolith in the vicinity of the pipe, problem solved. Come on.
Well, now you are talking about BP, not about Piper. That's a whole different thing. And yes, in my opinion, the clear inability of BP/Transoceanic or whoever to handle a major accident at a deepwater rig should have us reconsider the whole oil business as much as the sheer inability of TEPCO to cope with what is happening at Fukushima should have us reconsider nuclear power.
Well, Phenix has failed on any conceivable economic and scientific level. Way to go there. Useful if you want to breed Pu for your nuclear weapons program, though. And god knows, we need more of that.
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You talking bout the cesium levels that exceed dose-rates that even the soviets, known for their care for the fellow citizen, decided to be high enough to evacuate, 30km from the plant? Hey, go on, take a vacation there and rid us of your stupidity please. The mods getting this to +3 may follow accordingly.
Give it up. You are dealing with liars, scum and their apologists. Nuclear power is the holy grail, so nothing CAN GO WRONG, EVER! Even if they have to falsify every record. The fanclub is even more disgusting that TEPCO, tbh.
Pebble bed existed as a research facility in Germany, at the Juelich site. And it was an utter failure. Possibly the most contaminated site in the country by now, depends on how the storage facility at Asse works out. As for liquid salt - cooling stuff with molten beryllium fluoride? How nuts can you get?
Hello, dear apologists! This is the crowd you are associating with. Feel in good company? Yes? Though so. Scum attracts scum. Shall I dig out all the "nothing happened here", "this is proof of nuclear safety", "no meltdown is happening" - posts from 4 weeks ago?
Why would they prepare? As long as everything runs smoothly, they rake in the cash. As soon as anything goes wrong, well, there's always the taxpayer. And why would they risk losing a costly robot when you can throw away human lives?
Depends. You can power it biochemically, I guess. Until then - plain batteries? RTGs? Whatever wÃrks. Running out of juice on your cyborg limbs might suck, though.... I give you that.
So am I - but will we go further when the opportunity arises? I guess so.
Well, with your head up your arse that far, discussion is not possible, I guess. Have fun sucking your master's cock. You'll like it.
Why exactly is your love for that technology so great that you feel the need to defend those bumbling fools? Seriously, 5 weeks in and the best telemetry is a handheld geiger counter taped to a robot, watched by another robot, for like 20 minutes until they have to retreat because the cameras fog up? This is ridiculous.
It owes a lot to the military in the sense that the military has a tendency to maim people in quite creative way. Then some doctor has to find a way to fix it again.
Ehm, yes? What is your point? That is exaxtly what I am saying. Replace it. Work on alternatives. I didn't say that we are necessarily doooooomed, but we gotta work on alternatives,as you say.
As long as I feel continuity through the upgrade process, I don't give a rat's arse about philosophical problems or souls...
Out of an atmosphere that wouldn't sustain our agricultural structures. Next. Gimme some decent troll, not this weaksauce shit.
I stand corrected. I was indeed thinking of SuperPhenix.
The interesting question is what we are going to do when such artificial limbs are actually better than the real deal. Voluntary amputation to get an upgrade? Interesting times....
Well, that's the special feature for a certain demographic. "Yes, gramps, they still show the silent black and white version over yonder".
See, that's why it is brillant. Those glasses are designed to rip of luddite idiots who, in utter futility, try to prove their sophistication by calling everything novel a "fad". The glasses are aimed at the same demographic as this article. Can't rip em off enough, in my opinion.
Fly ash is treated as serious pollutant like, well, what do we do with it again? Yes, we use it as filler in concrete and blacktop. The heavy metal content is pretty much sequestered into clay minerals and glass-like compounds, and the radioactivity of coal ash is in the same order of magnitude like soil or fertilizer. How about you develop a spine and stop telling the lies your masters fed you?
Well, I completely agree that we are dealing with just different levels of suck if we are comparing oil to nuclear - but that should be an incentive to massively research renewables and perhaps fusion. As to the competence of TEPCO - seriously? Five weeks after the incident, the best telemetry we get is a counter taped to one robot watched by a second robot's camera? A first year engineering student could hack something better in one weekend. They are bumbling fools. Discharging radioactive water into the ocean? Hey, we dump a couple of sandbags full of zeolith in the vicinity of the pipe, problem solved. Come on.
Well, now you are talking about BP, not about Piper. That's a whole different thing. And yes, in my opinion, the clear inability of BP/Transoceanic or whoever to handle a major accident at a deepwater rig should have us reconsider the whole oil business as much as the sheer inability of TEPCO to cope with what is happening at Fukushima should have us reconsider nuclear power.
Well, Phenix has failed on any conceivable economic and scientific level. Way to go there. Useful if you want to breed Pu for your nuclear weapons program, though. And god knows, we need more of that.
Nice. I don't like the message so I go straight to an ad hominem. Show you colors!
Nope, it's not an irrelevance - but it is localized. That is the main difference. Nothing to do with money at all.
Didn't you get the memo? You are not to enjoy Avatar, because the hivemind says so. Slashdot, News for Luddites.
Thanks for making my point.