But if X is not worse than me, then I'm not as awesome as my mom says I am!
Seriously though, I don't have to be awesome to realize that advice given is pretty weak for what people here SHOULD be capable of. I also don't go around throwing out multi-paragraph blog posts on Slashdot because I realize that, completely unsolicited, I don't have anything that worthwhile to say.
he's talking to an audience that still mindlessly throws in a "beowulf" joke or whatever.
Then Hrothgar departed, his earl-throng attending him,
Folk-lord of Scyldings, forth from the building;
The war-chieftain wished then Wealhtheow to look for,
The queen for a bedmate.
And here I was, foolishly using other people's bad life choices as decent way of determining what choices I made in my own life.
Interestingly, I observe that you''ve done the following:
- Mistook my strong beliefs toward proposing that I would not raise my children in the same fashion as dysfunctional people I grew up around (the grow up gaming crowd) as arrogant smugness, rather than a genuine attempt to isolate elements that would lead to healthier children.
- Declared that you've grown up more than me because you can "stop looking down my nose at the way everyone else lives their life, how they spend their money, how they spend their free time, how they raise their kids, etc."
- Promptly looked down upon me because I propose to raise my kids in accordance with some method that you find unagreeable.
I like learning from other's mistakes. Helps keep me from fucking up, and it's a pretty decent survival mechanism as a whole. You scare me.
I do have a TV. I watch stuff on it occasionally. I also had a NES eventually. I played stuff on it. By that time, I had also enjoyed sports, bike riding, camping, reading, wood burning, and various other hobbies that had come and gone since I was young.
The point here I'm trying to make that you missed in your eagerness to self-righteously declare me "Doesn't Own a TV Guy." is that you don't plug the controller in to the kid like a pacifier. You let kids figure out what they enjoy for hobbies, and you don't let them sell themselves out short by going for the easy choice before they've had a taste for the rest of the world, otherwise they might never actually set out to see it.
Well, my parents managed to pull off getting me to play outside, do arts and crafts, and read books while my dad worked a full time job. I don't know what the measure of a "rich adult social life" is, but they had friends and went out to eat occasionally, so I assume they were there. Same with their parents.
If I can't find a way to do so when the time comes, then I guess I did something wrong. I'm sorry for your apparent failure though that you think such things unreachable.
But... but he was all snide and stuff. Didn't you see how condescending he was about it? Clearly that should have made his point! Obviously if you don't get how 2x the money spent equals 2x the productivity, then you're just not a professional enough professional person doing enough professional work to get it. I bet you don't even have an MBA from an Ivy League!
It's a combination of false flag trolling and people who have something to gain from shitting all over the rival team without also pointing out all the things that their own team is philosophically fine with doing, and does do on a regular basis.
Really? In that situation, you blame Microsoft? C'mon, I mean, they're evil, sure... but you walked right past EA!
Microsoft just wants to invade ever facet of your life, take your money, and control all of your devices. EA? They'll do all that, and then set your kids and dog on fire while making you watch. Then they'll make you buy a video of it happening every new year with a slightly better picture to it.
But they're "fighting" against it. I submit that this isn't "security theatre", but in fact "liberty theatre".
It's good though, because you should remember that those who would give up essential Liberty Theatre to purchase a little temporary Security Theatre deserve no Theatre at all
But isn't management ultimately responsible for every flaw? I mean, ultimately? If I was that negligent, and they were that knowledgeable and I was that replaceable, wouldn't they have just shitcanned me? Either you don't work in a professional environment, or I work in a _really_ dysfunctional one.
I'm the admin for 50-something servers in a testing lab we run for all of North and South America. Several of our Europe guys also use the stuff I've set up, because they don't have the needed capabilities there. I'm also actively continuing development of a C# based website that screenscrapes information from several internal websites to aggregate information into one nice happy site for senior management to review. In addition, this site takes email based alerts from an exchange account and gets them into a database where I can display it as well. I'm also working on a separate one to provide logging for ITIL ICC calls. I also help with supporting our proprietary software, including staging issues and coping with the things that our local helpdesk decide is too hard for them, because they can barely string together basic linux commands. As in, they've trouble struggling with the concept of piping. I'm literally the only developer on the site. My metrics are nebulous, including helping with migrations and endangered accounts (from a technical point of view, of course). None of them include "documentation". Hell, my boss mocked me one day because he found out that I spent hours on backend work, and "he couldn't see the difference" because I didn't yet have it display on page. Oh, and I'm also one of two people who provide training to said helpdesk, because they downsized the two people in our training department capable of handling it in the region, and did I mention that we've suspended paying for travel for anyone below the executive level? I spent an hour today explaining to the most intelligent guy on the helpdesk how perl arrays work, and how to store and manipulate data from two separate text files in one. Finally, I provide support for anyone running anything on hardware that wasn't procured through the corporate office, which is far more numerous than it should be. We have an entire separate network for servers that have a WAN link into one of our client networks for remote management. This are in violation of our corporate network team's policies. The only reason why they haven't been shut down is because the manager of the team who uses the computers on that network ignores the emails he gets every two months demanding he supply information about what switches provide access to that vlan so that they can shut it down. The only reason why they haven't been is because of the fact that bureaucracy in a global company this vertical takes literally years to catch up to the problems at hand. Again, I reiterate that I have no backup; if there are problems when I'm on vacation, they sit until I get back, or my phone rings all day until I'm somewhere I can pick it up if no one can think up a workaround.
If I got hit by a bus tomorrow, the website would get disbanded. The workaround would be that someone would get appointed to manually copy/paste the information together in an email, every eight hours. The current way of handling said ICC calls would continue, which is to manually enter data into an excel file hosted on a Sharepoint site. All the code I have thus far would sit diligently in the (documented) repository I've set up. Training would continue, though not at the level I can provide. Support for our software would exist still of course, The access to the network that I mentioned would fall by the wayside, because there's no way to access it from a VPN, which means that our BCP will fail should we need to invoke it. That's something that was just brought to my attention and I'm working on fixing it, but I haven't gotten there yet and I get hit tomorrow, remember?
Thinking about it now, I could probably do a better job if I worked more than 40 hours a week. T
You can always quit, rather than make what you're doing happen.
If I did, at least a project or two I'm working on would likely go away. You could argue that that's because I'm mismanaged such that I don't have time or inclination to do proper documentation and my manager doesn't understand what I do well enough to be able to even intelligently comment on it toward the person who replaced me,b ut I would counter with, "I doubt that's unique to me."
Well, we're hardly burning Jews, or anything like that, I agree. We're not the terrible monsters that is the stereotypical perception of the foreign attitude about us. I'm just saying, at the same time, we're not nearly as nice as we pat ourselves on the back for being either.
Slashdot Mirror
Bennett Hassleton.
I'm still blown away that Hassleton didn't make the list.
But if X is not worse than me, then I'm not as awesome as my mom says I am!
Seriously though, I don't have to be awesome to realize that advice given is pretty weak for what people here SHOULD be capable of. I also don't go around throwing out multi-paragraph blog posts on Slashdot because I realize that, completely unsolicited, I don't have anything that worthwhile to say.
Almost like the world is analog, and there are multiple ways to implement "solutions" to poential "problems".
What you're missing is the intersection of the comments, which is "Bennett == Hack".
Well, and it's NetworkManager. Nothing of value is lost by uninstalling it to begin with.
he's talking to an audience that still mindlessly throws in a "beowulf" joke or whatever.
Then Hrothgar departed, his earl-throng attending him,
Folk-lord of Scyldings, forth from the building;
The war-chieftain wished then Wealhtheow to look for,
The queen for a bedmate.
?
Well, the key indicator was that I admitted that I didn't know what a "rich adult social life" was. :P
Yeah, it's beautiful stuff. I just wish I would have been better at it.
And here I was, foolishly using other people's bad life choices as decent way of determining what choices I made in my own life.
Interestingly, I observe that you''ve done the following:
- Mistook my strong beliefs toward proposing that I would not raise my children in the same fashion as dysfunctional people I grew up around (the grow up gaming crowd) as arrogant smugness, rather than a genuine attempt to isolate elements that would lead to healthier children.
- Declared that you've grown up more than me because you can "stop looking down my nose at the way everyone else lives their life, how they spend their money, how they spend their free time, how they raise their kids, etc."
- Promptly looked down upon me because I propose to raise my kids in accordance with some method that you find unagreeable.
I like learning from other's mistakes. Helps keep me from fucking up, and it's a pretty decent survival mechanism as a whole. You scare me.
Sounds like I hit a little too close to home. :P
I do have a TV. I watch stuff on it occasionally. I also had a NES eventually. I played stuff on it. By that time, I had also enjoyed sports, bike riding, camping, reading, wood burning, and various other hobbies that had come and gone since I was young.
The point here I'm trying to make that you missed in your eagerness to self-righteously declare me "Doesn't Own a TV Guy." is that you don't plug the controller in to the kid like a pacifier. You let kids figure out what they enjoy for hobbies, and you don't let them sell themselves out short by going for the easy choice before they've had a taste for the rest of the world, otherwise they might never actually set out to see it.
Well, my parents managed to pull off getting me to play outside, do arts and crafts, and read books while my dad worked a full time job. I don't know what the measure of a "rich adult social life" is, but they had friends and went out to eat occasionally, so I assume they were there. Same with their parents.
If I can't find a way to do so when the time comes, then I guess I did something wrong. I'm sorry for your apparent failure though that you think such things unreachable.
Yeah. Should I ever have kids, the first version of Pong we're playing is "catch".
I've seen kids raised by video games. No thanks.
I do. See "parallel reconstruction".
But... but he was all snide and stuff. Didn't you see how condescending he was about it? Clearly that should have made his point! Obviously if you don't get how 2x the money spent equals 2x the productivity, then you're just not a professional enough professional person doing enough professional work to get it. I bet you don't even have an MBA from an Ivy League!
Steve! They told us you were dead! You better hurry back to Cappuccino, I hear they let someone else take over!
It's a combination of false flag trolling and people who have something to gain from shitting all over the rival team without also pointing out all the things that their own team is philosophically fine with doing, and does do on a regular basis.
What if it looks like Ronnie James Dio?
Really? In that situation, you blame Microsoft? C'mon, I mean, they're evil, sure... but you walked right past EA!
Microsoft just wants to invade ever facet of your life, take your money, and control all of your devices. EA? They'll do all that, and then set your kids and dog on fire while making you watch. Then they'll make you buy a video of it happening every new year with a slightly better picture to it.
But they're "fighting" against it. I submit that this isn't "security theatre", but in fact "liberty theatre".
It's good though, because you should remember that those who would give up essential Liberty Theatre to purchase a little temporary Security Theatre deserve no Theatre at all
But isn't management ultimately responsible for every flaw? I mean, ultimately? If I was that negligent, and they were that knowledgeable and I was that replaceable, wouldn't they have just shitcanned me? Either you don't work in a professional environment, or I work in a _really_ dysfunctional one.
I'm the admin for 50-something servers in a testing lab we run for all of North and South America. Several of our Europe guys also use the stuff I've set up, because they don't have the needed capabilities there. I'm also actively continuing development of a C# based website that screenscrapes information from several internal websites to aggregate information into one nice happy site for senior management to review. In addition, this site takes email based alerts from an exchange account and gets them into a database where I can display it as well. I'm also working on a separate one to provide logging for ITIL ICC calls. I also help with supporting our proprietary software, including staging issues and coping with the things that our local helpdesk decide is too hard for them, because they can barely string together basic linux commands. As in, they've trouble struggling with the concept of piping. I'm literally the only developer on the site. My metrics are nebulous, including helping with migrations and endangered accounts (from a technical point of view, of course). None of them include "documentation". Hell, my boss mocked me one day because he found out that I spent hours on backend work, and "he couldn't see the difference" because I didn't yet have it display on page. Oh, and I'm also one of two people who provide training to said helpdesk, because they downsized the two people in our training department capable of handling it in the region, and did I mention that we've suspended paying for travel for anyone below the executive level? I spent an hour today explaining to the most intelligent guy on the helpdesk how perl arrays work, and how to store and manipulate data from two separate text files in one. Finally, I provide support for anyone running anything on hardware that wasn't procured through the corporate office, which is far more numerous than it should be. We have an entire separate network for servers that have a WAN link into one of our client networks for remote management. This are in violation of our corporate network team's policies. The only reason why they haven't been shut down is because the manager of the team who uses the computers on that network ignores the emails he gets every two months demanding he supply information about what switches provide access to that vlan so that they can shut it down. The only reason why they haven't been is because of the fact that bureaucracy in a global company this vertical takes literally years to catch up to the problems at hand. Again, I reiterate that I have no backup; if there are problems when I'm on vacation, they sit until I get back, or my phone rings all day until I'm somewhere I can pick it up if no one can think up a workaround.
If I got hit by a bus tomorrow, the website would get disbanded. The workaround would be that someone would get appointed to manually copy/paste the information together in an email, every eight hours. The current way of handling said ICC calls would continue, which is to manually enter data into an excel file hosted on a Sharepoint site. All the code I have thus far would sit diligently in the (documented) repository I've set up. Training would continue, though not at the level I can provide. Support for our software would exist still of course, The access to the network that I mentioned would fall by the wayside, because there's no way to access it from a VPN, which means that our BCP will fail should we need to invoke it. That's something that was just brought to my attention and I'm working on fixing it, but I haven't gotten there yet and I get hit tomorrow, remember?
Thinking about it now, I could probably do a better job if I worked more than 40 hours a week. T
I never said that WASN'T what they thought... :)
You can always quit, rather than make what you're doing happen.
If I did, at least a project or two I'm working on would likely go away. You could argue that that's because I'm mismanaged such that I don't have time or inclination to do proper documentation and my manager doesn't understand what I do well enough to be able to even intelligently comment on it toward the person who replaced me,b ut I would counter with, "I doubt that's unique to me."
Playing the devil's advocate, when was the last time you got sued for malpractice for bugs in your code?
I think the extent of his argument is, "We're not the most evil people ever, so anything we do is still justified."
Well, we're hardly burning Jews, or anything like that, I agree. We're not the terrible monsters that is the stereotypical perception of the foreign attitude about us. I'm just saying, at the same time, we're not nearly as nice as we pat ourselves on the back for being either.