I'm not disagreeing with what you say but I think it should come down to personal choice and not government being your boss, your dad, or god. There's tons of other stuff we are not being vaccinated for that also lowers your immune system so this study is pretty dumb imho. For instance I am sure the enterovirus lowers your immune system once you get it but there is no vaccine for it. So does mono. Both of these are typical diseases that one might get in their lifetime and no vaccine for it. I mean if they came out with 500+ vaccines for everything that got us ill, should we take 500+ vaccines in our lifetime? When is it too many vaccines? Also why are they vaccinating us for these random diseases that no one ever gets when there is more common stuff that gets us ill? Go ahead and get your stupid flu vaccine every year if you want, but I am going to catch the flu and get acquired immunity that is free.
.1% death rate in western countries is lower than flu I believe and maybe chicken pox, so its really not that bad of a disease, however because we are America, we gotta over-react and pass legislation to take away people's rights? It doesn't make sense, and its pathetic. We have way worse of problems than worrying about other's personal decisions, this should be the bottom of the barrel issue in terms of things to address. Measles sounds scary but in general its quite manageable when in the care of skilled doctors and no one has died from it in this outbreak.
So now all children should be vaccinated because someone from a different country brought measles here? Even though it has a very very low death rate in western countries? How many died in the outbreak?
And vaccines can bring harm to children, look at vaccine compensation fund. I mean imagine how hard it is to prove that your child has been harmed by a vaccine! That's why it should be anyone's right to not vaccinate, because if they are harmed...whattya do then? Atleast if you get measles you can recover within a week or so typically.
Good point. I just wonder whether the effectiveness rate is much higher than what they say because I bet 90%+ or more of the people who got ill were vaccinated. If something is not 100% effective and 100% safe then why should be we be forced to do something against our own will and personal beliefs? Why should we be forced the risk to our children with the vaccine side effects when this is a disease that is rather minor and rarely kills in western countries? Why should we risk the side effects when the vaccine court denies that the vaccine cause harm and its very hard to prove that a vaccine has damaged someone? I mean the side effects for a typical person for measles is similar to the chicken pox and people get over it within a week and then they are immune from it for life. It rarely kills anyone now, why is there a need for a vaccine, especially when its been mostly eradicated? Measles has a very very low death rate in western countries. No one died in this outbreak, and this outbreak should not be the reason for us to lose our FREEDOM!
And why should we trust the government? The government lies to us and is not honest, they truly don't care about us either, if they really did care about us, then things would be quite different.
Shouldn't it be your choice to harm your child? Not the government's?
If we lose freedom of choice we have no constitution. Freedom is what created America, don't you understand that?
What many of you guys don't understand is that vaccines can cause harm. The vaccine compensation fund has paid out over $3 billion+ in damages due to people getting brain damage and all sorts of irreversible problems. They don't want to admit that vaccines cause harm because then people would stop taking them according to this AP news article:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin...
People used to be able to sue the vaccine manufacturers directly but now the government has made them immune from prosecution so that we can all get vaccinated, its because they love us all and care about us so much. Remember, this is the same government that said that the 9/11 dust is safe, that agent orange is safe, that GMO foods are safe, fluoride is safe, that blowing up chemical weapons is safe (aka gulf war syndrome), that DU (depleted uranium) is safe, etc. They care about us so much, we just need to do whatever they say, its for the collective.
And there has been one case where someone with autism was given compensation for damage from vaccine:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
Question: How many of the people who got sick with measles at Disneyland were vaccinated? Why haven't they released the numbers?
I have a feeling you spend a lot of time on these forums debating people because you think are you so smart, I can tell...you've developed quite a skillset. I don't spend that much time doing this lol, first time commenting on slashdot in like 10 years or something.
Anyways check out unda: http://www.seroyal.com/ca/bran...
If they were crock, why are they still in business and why do the have an education wing?
Why are people against one of the first medical industries that existed before the immoral current system developed by carnegie and ford foundations?
Can't measure psychosomatic stuff man
Have you ever tried homeopathics and/or do you have any health problems? I'm all messed up man and this stuff gets me better, got a ton of stuff that they can't diagnose via regular doctors. Ever lived with toxic mold to see what it does to you?
I have used it for a variety of ailments. The one that has brought me most benefit is histaminicum which lowers my histamines levels in my body when I use it. I am allergic to dairy and when I eat it, I get a histamine reaction. I just take this homeopathic and it goes away within a few minutes (this allergic reaction). I get allergic reactions such as ringing ears, anxiety, etc. and it goes away with just a few granules. I don't think this is something you can measure that much with science though.
The second one that I have used to great benefit is cannibus indica homeopathic which I use when I get too stoned and can't handle it. It sobers me up pretty fast and kind of neutralizes my high. How would you measure this with science?
Another one that has been amazing for me is juniperus communis which is a juniper root homeopathic. It helps your liver detox and I use it when I drink coffee or alcohol, neutralizes some of the bad effects of these drugs. How would you measure that?
I also use a variety of them that help me sleep, works not as good as the others because I have chronic insomnia...results vary lol.
I think Nintendo should make an online store where you can purchase and download old Nintendo games from the NES, SNES, N64, etc for their new consoles such as Wii and the 3DS. It will stengthen their company and will be a competitor to apple's apps store.
I believe the ring starts around "el vapor" lake to the east, and it goes SW towards "jesus maria," "Tasejero"...then north towards "frontera." A whole bunch of underwater caves line the area and they believe the edge of the caves exist at the edge of the impact crater.
Additionally, I noticed another crater site that is near "la trinitaria" in Mexico. This lake is pretty circular looking and either was formed from a caldera or impact crater. Half of it is filled in by volcanic activity
Here's another location of a crater in Mexico: do a search for "ciudad de carmen." The caves that exist in this area were formed from a meteor impact, and the caves exist along the edge of the impact. It creates a ring formation in the area, and it was also only recently discovered. Half of the crater is in the water, the other half of the crater is on land. Also, very close to this area, people theorize that the "gulf of mexico" was an impact crater that might've caused the dinosaurs to die. The yucatan peninsula sure has an odd shape, and in the water, it almost forms a circle around the gulf of mexico. The BBC series "earth: the biography" examines meteor impacts and craters that exist on the planet. It was a great natural science series, and it was very fun to watch.
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I think this would not be a good idea to send nuclear anything towards the sun, right? What would happen?
I'm not disagreeing with what you say but I think it should come down to personal choice and not government being your boss, your dad, or god. There's tons of other stuff we are not being vaccinated for that also lowers your immune system so this study is pretty dumb imho. For instance I am sure the enterovirus lowers your immune system once you get it but there is no vaccine for it. So does mono. Both of these are typical diseases that one might get in their lifetime and no vaccine for it. I mean if they came out with 500+ vaccines for everything that got us ill, should we take 500+ vaccines in our lifetime? When is it too many vaccines? Also why are they vaccinating us for these random diseases that no one ever gets when there is more common stuff that gets us ill? Go ahead and get your stupid flu vaccine every year if you want, but I am going to catch the flu and get acquired immunity that is free.
I'd argue that the chance to get polio is less than getting damaged by vaccines.
.1% death rate in western countries is lower than flu I believe and maybe chicken pox, so its really not that bad of a disease, however because we are America, we gotta over-react and pass legislation to take away people's rights? It doesn't make sense, and its pathetic. We have way worse of problems than worrying about other's personal decisions, this should be the bottom of the barrel issue in terms of things to address. Measles sounds scary but in general its quite manageable when in the care of skilled doctors and no one has died from it in this outbreak.
So now all children should be vaccinated because someone from a different country brought measles here? Even though it has a very very low death rate in western countries? How many died in the outbreak?
And vaccines can bring harm to children, look at vaccine compensation fund. I mean imagine how hard it is to prove that your child has been harmed by a vaccine! That's why it should be anyone's right to not vaccinate, because if they are harmed...whattya do then? Atleast if you get measles you can recover within a week or so typically.
Good point. I just wonder whether the effectiveness rate is much higher than what they say because I bet 90%+ or more of the people who got ill were vaccinated. If something is not 100% effective and 100% safe then why should be we be forced to do something against our own will and personal beliefs? Why should we be forced the risk to our children with the vaccine side effects when this is a disease that is rather minor and rarely kills in western countries? Why should we risk the side effects when the vaccine court denies that the vaccine cause harm and its very hard to prove that a vaccine has damaged someone? I mean the side effects for a typical person for measles is similar to the chicken pox and people get over it within a week and then they are immune from it for life. It rarely kills anyone now, why is there a need for a vaccine, especially when its been mostly eradicated? Measles has a very very low death rate in western countries. No one died in this outbreak, and this outbreak should not be the reason for us to lose our FREEDOM!
And why should we trust the government? The government lies to us and is not honest, they truly don't care about us either, if they really did care about us, then things would be quite different.
Shouldn't it be your choice to harm your child? Not the government's? If we lose freedom of choice we have no constitution. Freedom is what created America, don't you understand that?
Maybe you have been damaged by the vaccines and you don't know?
Its for the collective!? Our government loves us all and cares about us so much!
What many of you guys don't understand is that vaccines can cause harm. The vaccine compensation fund has paid out over $3 billion+ in damages due to people getting brain damage and all sorts of irreversible problems. They don't want to admit that vaccines cause harm because then people would stop taking them according to this AP news article: http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin... People used to be able to sue the vaccine manufacturers directly but now the government has made them immune from prosecution so that we can all get vaccinated, its because they love us all and care about us so much. Remember, this is the same government that said that the 9/11 dust is safe, that agent orange is safe, that GMO foods are safe, fluoride is safe, that blowing up chemical weapons is safe (aka gulf war syndrome), that DU (depleted uranium) is safe, etc. They care about us so much, we just need to do whatever they say, its for the collective. And there has been one case where someone with autism was given compensation for damage from vaccine: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/... Question: How many of the people who got sick with measles at Disneyland were vaccinated? Why haven't they released the numbers?
How many people who got sick with measles were vaccinated?
Cuz they like their own bad system and are suppressing others.
I have a feeling you spend a lot of time on these forums debating people because you think are you so smart, I can tell...you've developed quite a skillset. I don't spend that much time doing this lol, first time commenting on slashdot in like 10 years or something. Anyways check out unda: http://www.seroyal.com/ca/bran... If they were crock, why are they still in business and why do the have an education wing? Why are people against one of the first medical industries that existed before the immoral current system developed by carnegie and ford foundations?
Can't measure psychosomatic stuff man Have you ever tried homeopathics and/or do you have any health problems? I'm all messed up man and this stuff gets me better, got a ton of stuff that they can't diagnose via regular doctors. Ever lived with toxic mold to see what it does to you?
I have used it for a variety of ailments. The one that has brought me most benefit is histaminicum which lowers my histamines levels in my body when I use it. I am allergic to dairy and when I eat it, I get a histamine reaction. I just take this homeopathic and it goes away within a few minutes (this allergic reaction). I get allergic reactions such as ringing ears, anxiety, etc. and it goes away with just a few granules. I don't think this is something you can measure that much with science though. The second one that I have used to great benefit is cannibus indica homeopathic which I use when I get too stoned and can't handle it. It sobers me up pretty fast and kind of neutralizes my high. How would you measure this with science? Another one that has been amazing for me is juniperus communis which is a juniper root homeopathic. It helps your liver detox and I use it when I drink coffee or alcohol, neutralizes some of the bad effects of these drugs. How would you measure that? I also use a variety of them that help me sleep, works not as good as the others because I have chronic insomnia...results vary lol.
lol, nevermind...I didn't know that it already existed. I don't own any of their products or any consoles anymore, my bad.
I think Nintendo should make an online store where you can purchase and download old Nintendo games from the NES, SNES, N64, etc for their new consoles such as Wii and the 3DS. It will stengthen their company and will be a competitor to apple's apps store.
I don't understand why you guys on facebook feel so safe...read this article. http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Google-Facebook-share-data-with-Plaxo-LinkedIn/0,130061733,339284989,00.htm Thank you for posting this article today! Very important information, of course myspace will never "announce" to the users that they are doing this. It'd be nice if they notified people in changes as significant as this one.
I believe the ring starts around "el vapor" lake to the east, and it goes SW towards "jesus maria," "Tasejero"...then north towards "frontera." A whole bunch of underwater caves line the area and they believe the edge of the caves exist at the edge of the impact crater.
Additionally, I noticed another crater site that is near "la trinitaria" in Mexico. This lake is pretty circular looking and either was formed from a caldera or impact crater. Half of it is filled in by volcanic activity
Here's another location of a crater in Mexico: do a search for "ciudad de carmen." The caves that exist in this area were formed from a meteor impact, and the caves exist along the edge of the impact. It creates a ring formation in the area, and it was also only recently discovered. Half of the crater is in the water, the other half of the crater is on land. Also, very close to this area, people theorize that the "gulf of mexico" was an impact crater that might've caused the dinosaurs to die. The yucatan peninsula sure has an odd shape, and in the water, it almost forms a circle around the gulf of mexico. The BBC series "earth: the biography" examines meteor impacts and craters that exist on the planet. It was a great natural science series, and it was very fun to watch.
Here's an interesting article about how facebook, plaxo, linkedin, and google share your data: http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Google-Facebook-share-data-with-Plaxo-LinkedIn/0,130061733,339284989,00.htm