I think you should ask the developers, as well. I was in this situation a couple years back and I pushed for the 4 desk quad with the low ( 1 foot ) wall dividing desks. We didn't find it to be a distraction, rather we felt that it made collaboration much easier.
"Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you." - Muhammad, The Farewell Sermon
"None of you [truly] believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself." - An-Nawawi's Forty Hadith 13
"That which you want for yourself, seek for mankind." - Sukhanan-i-Muhammad
"The most righteous of men is the one who is glad that men should have what is pleasing to himself, and who dislikes for them what is for him disagreeable." - Sukhanan-i-Muhammad
Unfortunately, many, like with Christianity, pervert the teachings.
As to being an "ignorant asshole", well, you make the case for yourself quite well.
I am not an apologist for terror, but I do seek to understand why one might sacrifice themselves for their ideals, regardless of how I feel about those ideals. I may not agree with their methods, but I will say that the U.S. government has meddled in other nations affairs for quite a long time and that imposing your will on other people always comes back to bite you.
It is interesting that the people of Japan were responsible for the actions of their government and military, but the people of the U.S. are not responsible for the actions of our government. And us being a representative democracy.
A reasoning person would think that we were more responsible for the actions of our government since we have a hand in putting them in office in the first place.
One more thing, you may talk tough online, but I can guarantee you wouldn't call me an asshole to my face. Everyone online is a big man, until you actually stand toe to toe. So save your insults for reality, but then, I doubt you would have the balls to call someone an asshole to their face.
"Never, ever do citizens of a country deserved to be wiped out for the sins of politicians."
The "politicians" didn't lead Japan to conquest, the entire Japanese culture did. The Japanese people were delighted to participate at any available level. "Banzai!" wasn't a cliche back then.
It is popular to distinguish the noble peasant from his leaders so we may conveniently blame-then-sacrifice those leaders (a fact Hideki Tojo certainly understood, and note that NONE of the executed Jap war criminals tried to throw Hirohito under the bus despite his complete responsibility for ordering their conquests).
The Japanese people had for decades eagerly embraced violence throughout areas their country conquered. Not just standard wartime brutality, but protracted, perverted recreational sadism and mass murder like the Rape of Nanking.
"That is an incredibly simplistic view of WWII. "
It describes perfectly what the Japanese did. They certainly did try to enslave Asia and killed millions of Asians in the attempt. Millions of Japanese served in the forces that did this, and countless civilians worked to make it happen. Japan as a nation was vicious until it was beaten, at which point benevolent US management and diplomatic handling of the Emperor saved the day:
"(8) List of reforms that General Douglas MacArthur submitted to Emperor Hirohito and his Japanese government in October 1945.
1. The emancipation of the women of Japan through their enfranchisement - that, being members of the body politic, they may bring to Japan a new concept of government directly subservient to the well-being of the home.
2. The encouragement of the unionization of labor-that it may have an influential voice in safeguarding the working man from exploitation and abuse, and raising his living standard to a higher level.
3. The institution of such measures as may be necessary to correct the evils which exist in the child labor practices.
4. The opening of the schools to more liberal education-that the people may shape their future progress from factual knowledge and benefit from an understanding of a system under which government becomes the servant rather than the master of the people.
5. The abolition of systems which through secret inquisition and abuse have held the people in constant fear-substituting therefor a system of justice designed to afford the people protection against despotic, arbitrary and unjust methods. Freedom of thought, freedom of speech, freedom of religion must be maintained. Regimentation of the masses under the guise or claim of efficiency, under whatever name of government it may be made, must cease.
6. The democratization of Japanese economic institutions to the end that monopolistic industrial controls be revised through the development of methods which tend to insure a wide distribution of income and ownership of the means of production and trade.
7. In the immediate administrative field take vigorous and prompt action by the government with reference to housing, feeding and clothing the population in order to prevent pestilence, disease, starvation or other major social catastrophe. The coming winter will be critical and the only way to meet its difficulties is by
the full employment in useful work of everyone."
So McArthur, apparently quite a bit smarter than you, was able to realize that the women, children and workers (items 1,2 and 3) were being exploited by the government and in your words, by "the entire Japanese culture", correct? Who do you think was in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, men and soldiers only?
So once we nuked them, then we set them free, but first they needed to be punished for being born into the Japanese culture. I got you. Makes perfect sense.
Reminds me of all the times during the cold war when the left would trust the communist propaganda over the leaders of the free world, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
I really don't understand people like you. Apparently you feel guilty for living in a successful, free civilization. You clearly don't deserve it.
Wow - talk about revisionist history! You should read up on Curtis Lemay, the head of Strategic Air Command, who repeatedly tried to bait the Soviets into a war.
You should also recall that it was the left that took us into 2 wars to stop "Communist aggression" and Republicans that appeased the "Commies" by quitting those wars.
"Have you spoken with anyone from Nagasaki about this question? "
They asked for what they got, and don't forget it.
The Japs butchered their way through Asia and the Pacific in spectacular fashion, negating any opinion of the survivors of the just punishment their nation and people so richly deserved.
There was no "trust" issue in the Total War of WWII. The Japanese were trying to enslave Asia. They got spanked for the trouble. Afterward, the Allied occupation of Imperial Japan was so benevolent that it shaped Japan into the modern democracy the weaboos who snivel about Hiroshima and Nagasaki so admire. The US demonstrated that it was "trustworthy" by protecting Japan from the Communist menace in the East with the "nuclear umbrella" borne of the WWII atomic weapons program.
That is an incredibly simplistic view of WWII. While the Japanese were certainly brutal in there romp across Asia and the Pacific, do you really think that the citizens of Nagasaki asked to get nuked? That is like saying that the people in the World Trade Centers asked to get killed for all of the crap that our government did.
Never, ever do citizens of a country deserved to be wiped out for the sins of politicians.
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Easier for us, those who read Slashdot, but not easier for your average user that can barely sync their data through the cloud.
I think you should ask the developers, as well. I was in this situation a couple years back and I pushed for the 4 desk quad with the low ( 1 foot ) wall dividing desks. We didn't find it to be a distraction, rather we felt that it made collaboration much easier.
Muslims are told the same thing.
"Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you." - Muhammad, The Farewell Sermon
"None of you [truly] believes until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for himself." - An-Nawawi's Forty Hadith 13
"That which you want for yourself, seek for mankind." - Sukhanan-i-Muhammad
"The most righteous of men is the one who is glad that men should have what is pleasing to himself, and who dislikes for them what is for him disagreeable." - Sukhanan-i-Muhammad
Unfortunately, many, like with Christianity, pervert the teachings.
As to being an "ignorant asshole", well, you make the case for yourself quite well.
I am not an apologist for terror, but I do seek to understand why one might sacrifice themselves for their ideals, regardless of how I feel about those ideals. I may not agree with their methods, but I will say that the U.S. government has meddled in other nations affairs for quite a long time and that imposing your will on other people always comes back to bite you.
It is interesting that the people of Japan were responsible for the actions of their government and military, but the people of the U.S. are not responsible for the actions of our government. And us being a representative democracy.
A reasoning person would think that we were more responsible for the actions of our government since we have a hand in putting them in office in the first place.
One more thing, you may talk tough online, but I can guarantee you wouldn't call me an asshole to my face. Everyone online is a big man, until you actually stand toe to toe. So save your insults for reality, but then, I doubt you would have the balls to call someone an asshole to their face.
"Never, ever do citizens of a country deserved to be wiped out for the sins of politicians."
The "politicians" didn't lead Japan to conquest, the entire Japanese culture did. The Japanese people were delighted to participate at any available level. "Banzai!" wasn't a cliche back then.
It is popular to distinguish the noble peasant from his leaders so we may conveniently blame-then-sacrifice those leaders (a fact Hideki Tojo certainly understood, and note that NONE of the executed Jap war criminals tried to throw Hirohito under the bus despite his complete responsibility for ordering their conquests).
The Japanese people had for decades eagerly embraced violence throughout areas their country conquered. Not just standard wartime brutality, but protracted, perverted recreational sadism and mass murder like the Rape of Nanking.
"That is an incredibly simplistic view of WWII. "
It describes perfectly what the Japanese did. They certainly did try to enslave Asia and killed millions of Asians in the attempt. Millions of Japanese served in the forces that did this, and countless civilians worked to make it happen. Japan as a nation was vicious until it was beaten, at which point benevolent US management and diplomatic handling of the Emperor saved the day:
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAmacarthur.htm
"(8) List of reforms that General Douglas MacArthur submitted to Emperor Hirohito and his Japanese government in October 1945.
1. The emancipation of the women of Japan through their enfranchisement - that, being members of the body politic, they may bring to Japan a new concept of government directly subservient to the well-being of the home.
2. The encouragement of the unionization of labor-that it may have an influential voice in safeguarding the working man from exploitation and abuse, and raising his living standard to a higher level.
3. The institution of such measures as may be necessary to correct the evils which exist in the child labor practices.
4. The opening of the schools to more liberal education-that the people may shape their future progress from factual knowledge and benefit from an understanding of a system under which government becomes the servant rather than the master of the people.
5. The abolition of systems which through secret inquisition and abuse have held the people in constant fear-substituting therefor a system of justice designed to afford the people protection against despotic, arbitrary and unjust methods. Freedom of thought, freedom of speech, freedom of religion must be maintained. Regimentation of the masses under the guise or claim of efficiency, under whatever name of government it may be made, must cease.
6. The democratization of Japanese economic institutions to the end that monopolistic industrial controls be revised through the development of methods which tend to insure a wide distribution of income and ownership of the means of production and trade.
7. In the immediate administrative field take vigorous and prompt action by the government with reference to housing, feeding and clothing the population in order to prevent pestilence, disease, starvation or other major social catastrophe. The coming winter will be critical and the only way to meet its difficulties is by the full employment in useful work of everyone."
So McArthur, apparently quite a bit smarter than you, was able to realize that the women, children and workers (items 1,2 and 3) were being exploited by the government and in your words, by "the entire Japanese culture", correct? Who do you think was in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, men and soldiers only?
So once we nuked them, then we set them free, but first they needed to be punished for being born into the Japanese culture. I got you. Makes perfect sense.
Christians may not have the virgins, but doesn't their religion promise eternal bliss?
Reminds me of all the times during the cold war when the left would trust the communist propaganda over the leaders of the free world, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I really don't understand people like you. Apparently you feel guilty for living in a successful, free civilization. You clearly don't deserve it.
Wow - talk about revisionist history! You should read up on Curtis Lemay, the head of Strategic Air Command, who repeatedly tried to bait the Soviets into a war.
You should also recall that it was the left that took us into 2 wars to stop "Communist aggression" and Republicans that appeased the "Commies" by quitting those wars.
"Have you spoken with anyone from Nagasaki about this question? "
They asked for what they got, and don't forget it.
The Japs butchered their way through Asia and the Pacific in spectacular fashion, negating any opinion of the survivors of the just punishment their nation and people so richly deserved.
There was no "trust" issue in the Total War of WWII. The Japanese were trying to enslave Asia. They got spanked for the trouble. Afterward, the Allied occupation of Imperial Japan was so benevolent that it shaped Japan into the modern democracy the weaboos who snivel about Hiroshima and Nagasaki so admire. The US demonstrated that it was "trustworthy" by protecting Japan from the Communist menace in the East with the "nuclear umbrella" borne of the WWII atomic weapons program.
That is an incredibly simplistic view of WWII. While the Japanese were certainly brutal in there romp across Asia and the Pacific, do you really think that the citizens of Nagasaki asked to get nuked? That is like saying that the people in the World Trade Centers asked to get killed for all of the crap that our government did.
Never, ever do citizens of a country deserved to be wiped out for the sins of politicians.