Whether it's historical or not, the business decision remains the same: The United States is no longer a safe place to innovate. It doesn't reward innovation, it punishes it.
"In other news, the spokesperson for an organization responsible for dozens of high profile electronic attacks, distributing classified data, and hundreds of other felonies was taken into custody today..."
Agree or disagree with Anonymous, it shouldn't be a surprise that he took the ride.
You need to move to a free country. Innovation is dead in this country. If you don't have several million dollars, you're nobody. You aren't entitled to legal protection, you're just a consumer waiting to be extorted. I'm not saying this to be sarcastic or political; I mean it. Move your development overseas, contribute under an alias, use Tor, whatever it takes. The United States is not a place for innovators or creators to be right now. It is, however, a great place for lawyers and thieves.
The remastered version certainly is better quality, but I'll wait for the limited edition director's cut of Episode I: Giant Nuclear-Powered Laser Robot Invades Mars. It's supposed to be a rock-solid performance with plenty of driving action scenes.
Relax, would you? The equant lets it all fit back together nicely. Ptolemy's Standard Model still fits the data; there's no need to bring pseudoscience like heliocentricity into this.
You are further proof that astronomers have absolutely no sense of humor.
I would really like to see a source for this. While I'm sure there's piracy happening offline, I find it very hard to believe that that's where the majority of piracy is happening.
It'll be the same source that tells you most people smoke pot in their houses, not in front of the police station. Comeon buddy, look around: People are scared. The internet is increasingly under surveillance and the news is full of people going to jail and getting hundred thousand dollar fines for file sharing. Drug dealers get off easier, and the average person has noticed this by now. That doesn't mean the behavior stops, it means the behavior moves to places not under surveillance. And since this is how file sharing worked before the internet, and given the high storage density of portable media (64GB can fit on the tip of my finger) -- what other conclusion can you reach?
I'm sorry, but "citation needed" isn't a pancea; it can be trumped by "Common sense." Google it yourself if you're so inclined, but I'm not wasting time online to find a citation for the obvious for you.
if politicians can be SD-conservative, why can't astronomers? we all know that significance is precious and rare...
It was decided by committee. I'm sure it was a compromise of several possible values, with concessions on each side, a few attempts to filibuster it until Pluto was given recognition again, etc. No, I'm not trying to be funny.
Nobody need panic, the earth's distance from the sun remains just as it was, regardless of whether it's in AUs, meters, or smoots."
I'm more concerned about the fact that the distance changes depending on where we are. That means that the Earth is moving, and I don't believe in that. It's more heliocentric non-sense by the astronomical community. What next; astronomical bodies that aren't perfectly spherical? The madness of the commoners, I tell you.
This is obviously the right way for our society to go.
Yeah, now rather than people disassembling the cameras with a bat or tools, they'll just take pot shots at it with a gun from several hundred feet away, endangering everyone who happens to be along the firing path. Because if there's one thing that pisses criminals off, it's someone in authority trying to be "clever". And yes, there are about a hundred better ways of disabling a camera quickly, but nobody has ever accused the average criminal of thinking.
Most piracy doesn't happen online. Most of it happens in physical trades with people; Head over for a LAN party, leave the 'download' drives connected so people can swap stuff. Someone expresses an interest in another's favorite TV series... out come the disposable flash drives. Everyone has a laptop these days -- visiting a friend's house is a common occurrance, as is file trading. More piracy happens on those channels than online. People still loan each other their DVDs and blurays too (and rip them).
The analog hole will never be plugged, because it wears sneakers and goes through your fridge looking for a beer.
Please show me the US case where someone has been thrown in jail for downloading music or videos. (Except, of course, videos that are criminal to own, like child porn.)
They don't, not directly. What they do is get a judgement against you. Then the debtor repeatedly files motions to have you appear in court, which when they have a judgement against you, they can do, so the judge can assess your income, pay back plan, etc. The key word here is repeatedly, sometimes several times a month. Since these judgements are in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, there's no hope for them to repay it. And as you might imagine, when you have an appointment two or more times a month for the rest of your life, sooner or later circumstances are going to arise where you miss your court date.
And that is when you go to jail: For failing to appear, or contempt of court. The sentence in either is indeterminate; An increasing number of jurisdictions have laws in place saying you can't get out of jail until you repay any legally owed debts -- statutes originally intended to repay victims of actual crime, not civil cases. So you do forced labor, at minimum wage, in jail.
You know what, I'll happily burn every karma point I've ever earned on this website -- it's not a troll to tell someone that advocating violence against women is wrong. Whoever modded my last post down should be ashamed. You coward.
No, it's advocating violence against men - which, my political correctness compass tells me, is absolutely fine.
That's a new definition of violence of which I was previously unaware. See, for me, violence is a bit more dramatic than entering your credit card info on a website.
Either marriage is very different in France or this is a bizarre ruling.
Er, both? In France, marriage is a private affair between the husband, the wife, and the personal trainer. And it's a bizarre ruling because nobody went to jail or had their lives ruined... which is common in both french marriages and file sharing cases.
unless she's an entitled woman. then she'll smack him around for getting in trouble for her indiscretion. after all, that 150 euros is hers too and how can she possibly be expected to pay for music when he spends it all on piracy fines. does money grow on trees?
EXCUSE ME? Is this advocating violence against women supposed to be funny on Slashdot? On any website? I hope the mods not only -1 this post, but every post of yours they can get their hands on, you little shit.
France, out of nowhere, is suddenly showing surprising competitiveness in the "Passing dumbass laws so the rest of the world can see what a bad idea they are" department.
A lot less dumbass than elsewhere: 150 euros is a slap on the wrist. I bet speeding tickets go for more. This is downright enlightened by G20 standards. In the United States, people get thrown in jail, or face hundred thousand dollar fines -- thus ensuring permanent poverty for life.
It's all in how the survey question is stated. If you ask people "Do you support airport security?" you'll find overwhelming support. Obviously. Ask people if they support the TSA irradiating its citizens, "raping" them with invasive pat-downs -- whether they agree with those security procedures, and you'll get much lower response. It's like the IRS: Most people acknowledge they have to pay their taxes. Few agree with the collection tactics the IRS uses, or the lack of judicial oversight.
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Whether it's historical or not, the business decision remains the same: The United States is no longer a safe place to innovate. It doesn't reward innovation, it punishes it.
Generally, a spokesperson for a group of interest would be approached calmly, not raided (which makes it news).
The spokespeople of multinational crime syndicates tend not to be well-regarded by law enforcement. I know, it's confusing.
"In other news, the spokesperson for an organization responsible for dozens of high profile electronic attacks, distributing classified data, and hundreds of other felonies was taken into custody today..."
Agree or disagree with Anonymous, it shouldn't be a surprise that he took the ride.
You need to move to a free country. Innovation is dead in this country. If you don't have several million dollars, you're nobody. You aren't entitled to legal protection, you're just a consumer waiting to be extorted. I'm not saying this to be sarcastic or political; I mean it. Move your development overseas, contribute under an alias, use Tor, whatever it takes. The United States is not a place for innovators or creators to be right now. It is, however, a great place for lawyers and thieves.
I love our new Congress: Nothing is illegal, as long as its documented.
The remastered version certainly is better quality, but I'll wait for the limited edition director's cut of Episode I: Giant Nuclear-Powered Laser Robot Invades Mars. It's supposed to be a rock-solid performance with plenty of driving action scenes.
Then when somebody doesn't play ball, suddenly this corporation is obviously deserving of crippling fines!
They didn't pay enough in protection mon--,er, campaign contributions.
Relax, would you? The equant lets it all fit back together nicely. Ptolemy's Standard Model still fits the data; there's no need to bring pseudoscience like heliocentricity into this.
You are further proof that astronomers have absolutely no sense of humor.
Bloomberg Businessweek spent a few days with Musk and got a look inside his insane factories in Silicon Valley and Los Angeles.
They're manufacturing insanity in America now? That explains a lot.
I would really like to see a source for this. While I'm sure there's piracy happening offline, I find it very hard to believe that that's where the majority of piracy is happening.
It'll be the same source that tells you most people smoke pot in their houses, not in front of the police station. Comeon buddy, look around: People are scared. The internet is increasingly under surveillance and the news is full of people going to jail and getting hundred thousand dollar fines for file sharing. Drug dealers get off easier, and the average person has noticed this by now. That doesn't mean the behavior stops, it means the behavior moves to places not under surveillance. And since this is how file sharing worked before the internet, and given the high storage density of portable media (64GB can fit on the tip of my finger) -- what other conclusion can you reach?
I'm sorry, but "citation needed" isn't a pancea; it can be trumped by "Common sense." Google it yourself if you're so inclined, but I'm not wasting time online to find a citation for the obvious for you.
if politicians can be SD-conservative, why can't astronomers? we all know that significance is precious and rare...
It was decided by committee. I'm sure it was a compromise of several possible values, with concessions on each side, a few attempts to filibuster it until Pluto was given recognition again, etc. No, I'm not trying to be funny.
Nobody need panic, the earth's distance from the sun remains just as it was, regardless of whether it's in AUs, meters, or smoots."
I'm more concerned about the fact that the distance changes depending on where we are. That means that the Earth is moving, and I don't believe in that. It's more heliocentric non-sense by the astronomical community. What next; astronomical bodies that aren't perfectly spherical? The madness of the commoners, I tell you.
This is obviously the right way for our society to go.
Yeah, now rather than people disassembling the cameras with a bat or tools, they'll just take pot shots at it with a gun from several hundred feet away, endangering everyone who happens to be along the firing path. Because if there's one thing that pisses criminals off, it's someone in authority trying to be "clever". And yes, there are about a hundred better ways of disabling a camera quickly, but nobody has ever accused the average criminal of thinking.
There's only one way.
Yup. We need to find oil in a 3rd world country we haven't liberated yet.
Most piracy doesn't happen online. Most of it happens in physical trades with people; Head over for a LAN party, leave the 'download' drives connected so people can swap stuff. Someone expresses an interest in another's favorite TV series... out come the disposable flash drives. Everyone has a laptop these days -- visiting a friend's house is a common occurrance, as is file trading. More piracy happens on those channels than online. People still loan each other their DVDs and blurays too (and rip them).
The analog hole will never be plugged, because it wears sneakers and goes through your fridge looking for a beer.
can you cite the case where this happened? it sounds a bit fishy to me. there is something called 'abuse of process'.
Here's your fish. Many more can be found by simply googling for 'debtors prison'.
Please show me the US case where someone has been thrown in jail for downloading music or videos. (Except, of course, videos that are criminal to own, like child porn.)
They don't, not directly. What they do is get a judgement against you. Then the debtor repeatedly files motions to have you appear in court, which when they have a judgement against you, they can do, so the judge can assess your income, pay back plan, etc. The key word here is repeatedly, sometimes several times a month. Since these judgements are in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, there's no hope for them to repay it. And as you might imagine, when you have an appointment two or more times a month for the rest of your life, sooner or later circumstances are going to arise where you miss your court date.
And that is when you go to jail: For failing to appear, or contempt of court. The sentence in either is indeterminate; An increasing number of jurisdictions have laws in place saying you can't get out of jail until you repay any legally owed debts -- statutes originally intended to repay victims of actual crime, not civil cases. So you do forced labor, at minimum wage, in jail.
God Bless America.
Be careful what you wish for.
I also wish for a pony.
You know what, I'll happily burn every karma point I've ever earned on this website -- it's not a troll to tell someone that advocating violence against women is wrong. Whoever modded my last post down should be ashamed. You coward.
No, it's advocating violence against men - which, my political correctness compass tells me, is absolutely fine.
That's a new definition of violence of which I was previously unaware. See, for me, violence is a bit more dramatic than entering your credit card info on a website.
Either marriage is very different in France or this is a bizarre ruling.
Er, both? In France, marriage is a private affair between the husband, the wife, and the personal trainer. And it's a bizarre ruling because nobody went to jail or had their lives ruined... which is common in both french marriages and file sharing cases.
unless she's an entitled woman. then she'll smack him around for getting in trouble for her indiscretion. after all, that 150 euros is hers too and how can she possibly be expected to pay for music when he spends it all on piracy fines. does money grow on trees?
EXCUSE ME? Is this advocating violence against women supposed to be funny on Slashdot? On any website? I hope the mods not only -1 this post, but every post of yours they can get their hands on, you little shit.
France, out of nowhere, is suddenly showing surprising competitiveness in the "Passing dumbass laws so the rest of the world can see what a bad idea they are" department.
A lot less dumbass than elsewhere: 150 euros is a slap on the wrist. I bet speeding tickets go for more. This is downright enlightened by G20 standards. In the United States, people get thrown in jail, or face hundred thousand dollar fines -- thus ensuring permanent poverty for life.
Many yes, but far too many feel that "If that's the price we have to pay for safety, then so be it".
Not as many as people think.
It's all in how the survey question is stated. If you ask people "Do you support airport security?" you'll find overwhelming support. Obviously. Ask people if they support the TSA irradiating its citizens, "raping" them with invasive pat-downs -- whether they agree with those security procedures, and you'll get much lower response. It's like the IRS: Most people acknowledge they have to pay their taxes. Few agree with the collection tactics the IRS uses, or the lack of judicial oversight.
I believe I speak for many Americans when I say my comment is "Go away."