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DHS Gets Public Comment, Whether It Wants It Or Not
OverTheGeicoE writes "The motion to force DHS to start its public comment period is still working its way through the court (DHS: 'We're not stonewalling!', EPIC: 'Yes, you are!'). While we wait for the decision, Cato Institute's Jim Harper points out another way for the public to comment on body scanners, tsacomment.com. Even before this site existed, of course, the government was receiving public comment anyway in the form of passenger complaint letters, which they buried in their files. Even so, the public can get a chance to view those comments as the result of Freedom of Information Act requests. An FOIA request about pat-downs by governmentattic.org yielded hundreds of pages of letters to the government from 2010, including frequent reports of pat-down induced PTSD and sexual abuse trauma."
I believe I speak for many Americans when I say my comment is "Go away."
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DHS = Department of Homeland Security
FOIA = Freedom of Information Act
PTSD = Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder
EPIC = The most overused word ever, next to fail. for even more asshole points, use them together to form "epic fail." (quoted from Urban Dictionary)
when your comments are completely ignored?
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" which they buried in their files"
If by that you mean kept on hand to refer to latter in order to properly respond and maintain a history, then correct.
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
On one hand, I understand their ham handed approach to national security after 9/11. It was like a fire department flooding a property to make sure the fire was out. People had and will have good justification for ridiculing their blunt instrument approach to airport security -- especially the randomness of it all. On the other hand, we have intelligent people with experience enough to know that x-ray devices and bag searches only give the illusion of security. While on a much smaller scale, look at what the Israeli's do. A very well trained security person looks deeply into your eyes and questions you. That's it. That's all it takes to give the green light or send up a red flag. And, when was the last time you heard about a hijacking in Israel? Screening passengers by observation techniques can't be thwarted, while technological safeguards can always be overcome.
The last half dozen times I've flown, I managed to steer myself to a metal detector line, instead of an irradiating machine. A few weeks ago, though, they simply weren't using the old fashioned metal detectors, so I had my first "opportunity" to opt-out. I was really looking forward to being fondled and groped, but the TSA screeners were so uncomfortable, that they probably weren't able to determine definitively that I was male, much less if I were carrying something dangerous, like a comb or a camera. The dudes didn't want to touch me or look at me! While I was being not-fondled, one of the other TSA screeners unpacked and repacked my carry-on at least three times, and re-X-rayed it. I guess she was confused about why I would need two phone chargers (one for the wall, and one for the car). I mean, aside from that, there were two books and some napkins. Oh and a bottle of alcohol - but no one had any problem with that. I got the impression that she was just trying to punish me for daring to opt out. The guys just wanted to move on. It would have been cute, if the rules they were following didn't so blatantly violate good sense.
If a simple pat-down "induced PTSD and sexual abuse trauma", it is more likely to suggest a problem with the passenger rather than the TSA. Even so, America really can't afford billions of dollars in unnecessary equipment and personnel just to provide security theatre, especially since this particular theatre is not the slightest bit entertaining when it happens to you.
And when you can get away with ignoring a court order, isn't that a symptom of a larger problem?
I've never been groped by an agent, but I feel the anxiety of that and other abuses by the 'all powerful' every time I fly. So far it's just a terrible possibility in my mind and has never happened, but living under that fear should not be a necessity of a reasonably safe flying experience.
...over federal power. If you give the federal government too much power, they do things like this. They are simply not equipped (due mostly to incompetence) to deal with the concerns of it's citizens like local government is, and they should only exist to settle disputes between states and provide for the common defense and law. But when you put them in charge of things like this, you are guaranteed to get problems. The DHS is literally the poster child for why you should never ever ever give your executive branch in a representative republic more power than you would give your local mayor.
I swear they give me mod points to shut me up.
The TSA always seems so proud that they offer same-sex inspectors for pat-downs. As a heterosexual male, that fact alone makes me pretty averse to being patted down. If they were to provide oppostite-sex inspectors for this, I think it would go a long way in getting more cooperation - maybe even willingness?
http://wh.gov/WXeu
remember with the US use to make fun of communists for their "show me your papers" paranoia? tsa is UnAmerican.
Why do you say they are ignorant? TSA is responsible for making sure that terrorists don't crash airplanes into our office buildings and work places. You don't have to fly to know that there haven't been any planes flown into office buildings in some time in the US. Now, I do fly a few times a year - and the security theater is pathetic. I'm about to fly again in two weeks and am not looking forward to it. However from the point of view of "average person who doesn't fly" - why would they not be satisfied that someone seems to be keeping planes from falling from the sky? It might be the same in principle as the old "tiger preventing rock", but to them it must be working.
Actually, I have this whistle that keeps Seattle safe from tigers.
Works fairly well for lions too, but not so great for bears.
-- Tigger warning: This post may contain tiggers! --
Americans are so scared they won't allow their kids to walk to school or even play in their own front yard without constant adult supervision.
The Great Depression had the WPA, and the Great Recession has the TSA.
Dammit. This is one of those posts I wish I had thought of. Nicely done :)
Bark less. Wag more.
Am I the only one who doesn't find the TSA process all that outrageous? If you're getting PTSD from a patdown... well, I think your issues are greater than what the TSA has control over. I mean it's not that great that you get whacked (lightly) in the crotch if you forget to take some change out of your pocket (this happened to me the last time I flew) but it's not like they're cutting your hands off or raping you with a baseball bat.
You could argue that it's unnecessary and intrusive, but if you're polite and follow their instructions when given, you're not going to have a problem.
It's just not a big deal to me. You may feel different (and that's your right), but personally, I'm more concerned about getting food poisoning from the restaurant in the terminal (that has a captive audience) than I am about putting up with the TSA.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
dontscan.us or dontscan.me