yet if you mention this to people who live there they go absolutely bonkers denial on you. I guess I'm not speaking about the small minority who will profit from doing the math.
They believe suffering is good for the soul... and so, they suffer. Don't feel bad about it. It's what Jesus wants. Once they're all dead, we'll buy the land for cheap and redevelop it. In the meantime, we'll just exploit the cheap labor, and lock them into an unending life of debt and suffering... Someone has to work the salt mines. *shrugs*
The standard of living in the 3rd world would go up dramatically with free access to clean water.
There's a trend towards decreasing access to freshwater in many developed parts of the world as well. Much of the southern United States will be uninhabitable within our lifetimes if they do not secure another source of fresh water. I do not think just the '3rd world' has this problem. We will all be '3rd world' if the trend continues. And then no world... because almost all life on land depends on it.
Well, the US military has lots of satellite uplink capacity and capability; The latency is very reasonable (realtime drone piloting by pilots in the US flying in the Middle East!), and bandwidth is also massive; Most of what is transmitted is realtime video and telemetry...
It's easy to encrypt and tunnel traffic into the uplink, without a security problem... the issue is where to route the traffic once it comes out of one of the border routers. I think what the poster is looking for is a large VPN service to mix in the military users' traffic with regular users near a NAP, so that there's not single point where the traffic can be snooped.
It's the goddamned SECURITY that is the issue here, dear genius IT person
I guess I just don't see how two computers that have no electrical or wireless connection to one another can intefere with one another in a malicious fashion. Perhaps you could enlighten me, oh Ye of Infinite Knowledge?
You are proposing a non-military access point onto a vessel vested with the task of protecting the interests of the United States.
It's the goddamned internet... You have to hook it up SOMEWHERE. If I could, I'd build a plinth and put this comment on the top and a faceplate under that said "Stupidest Person in IT Award (2012)". I'm gonna go take a shower now... I feel dirty.
This would be an excellent trap to catch foreign agents.
When you are in the world of spies, the real one, not the one on TV... that would be an epic newbie mistake. The security concern here would be military personnel taking pictures, probably to send home to family or whatever, and it winds up on Facebook, and in the background is something sensitive that they were unaware of. Stuff like that. The idea of a foreign spy on a navy ship using the public internet to e-mail The Secret Recipe to their handler is... well... insanely retarded. They would use a broad spectrum rapid frequency shift low power portable radio... or just toss the evidence overboard with a locator beacon set on a timer... something more like that. You don't use the internet for that kind of thing if you want to live long.
The NSA is tasked with securing such communication and you should regardless of classification of data be using their equipment or at least an approved system. In that way you know that you at least are protected from your provider.Your users shouldn't even know you'd doing jack to their connection except to show as a US IP address. There should be no identifying information that points that IP to any military activity.
If you read between the lines, the poster is saying that this is an entirely separate network where the crew can bring their personal (non work) systems, and it will have no access or visibility to any of the ships systems or network. As such, those requirements go away. The Navy of course wants a US-based company to approach so they can monitor use and make sure that if another Wikileaks happens, they are a phone call away from saying "It was this guy, at this time, on this terminal," and also because US-based company means US-based laws -- and it's harder for a foreign national to penetrate a domestic service than a foreign one, especially after it gets hardened, which falls under the purvue of the DHS, not the NSA, in this case -- since the company is private, not military. And it probably will have cameras in the rec area, as all meeting and confidential areas on the ship do. So let's just go ahead and assume that the security people have already reviewed this and have green-lit it with the appropriate restrictions. They are, afterall, highly trained professionals. -_-
Remember that aircraft carriers have thousands of personnel, deployed for months at a time with no access to anything but the ship. Entertainment becomes incredibly important for crew morale, and the Navy recognizes the need to balance this; They want to give their crew access to everything you can do on the internet at home on their little slice of the United States afloat. And why shouldn't they?
Mom: "Hey, I just installed it. How come Netflix doesn't work? Or any of my cooking applications. How do I print? Why the hell does it display all those error messages everytime it starts up?"
Free doesn't mean more usable, and that's what Microsoft and Apple have on Linux... the reason why the Year of the Linux Desktop is perpetually reset to be about 2 years from now: Ease of use. It was designed by programmers, for programmers, and you can't get away from those roots no matter how hard you kick sand.
There is no possible way that you could convince me that you are smarter than 99% of the Scientists and Philosophers through history.
Perhaps he can't, but they only had access to about 1% of what we know have as a body of scientific, philosophical, medical, etc., understanding. And it's almost instantly searchable, so research takes hours, not months. It isn't to say their achievements we're great, but to say their perception of the world is somehow more valid because of intelligence alone is exceptionally arrogant.
(Reply killer: I understand child molesting is far worse than undesired tracking.)
I don't know about that. If child molesting is 10,000 times worse than web tracking, and web tracking is 100,000 times more common than child molesting, then web tracking is a problem 1,000 times worse than child molesting from a global standpoint.
It's MY router, I bought it. and it's not some quasi-goods digital product. This is a physical item.
The firmware remains the property of the company. It's software. Therefore, you don't own it. Of course, without firmware, it's useless, but I doubt you'll get many judges to sign on with the idea that you own the firmware too. Thank you copyright law.
I'll sign up with the class action if this is the case.
Your terms of service have been patched. That option was removed by v43 of SCOTUS. It was a mandatory update to legal.sys. You'll have to use the legacy mode 'civil_action' after setting has_lawyer to true and extra_money to lots. Be aware, the legacy mode is really buggy; It produces different results depending on the locale set during install. Enabling it also occasionally causes the processor and memory to jump to 100% utilization and the I/O is doggedly slow.
Hell, this isn't even cloud architecture anyway. It's just a web-based (pseudo-remote) remote administration tool. You'd think Cisco of all people would understand that.
Cisco engineers do. Cisco marketing does not. Cisco marketing sees the value of having a complete web browsing history of a substantial cross-section of the world, and has chosen to leverage that to increase profits post-SCOTUS patch, and since the CEO and the board signed a legally binding agreement to maximize profits, the engineers had no choice. You should welcome your capitalist overlords, and as a IT worker, you can help increase their efficiency as they enslave others in their salt mines.
Yeah, 9-11 really brought the US "down". About two months later the Taliban were out of power in Afghanistan. Now OBL is shark bait, and Al Qaeda management positions are the least popular career move in the Muslim world.
And we've been in a recession pretty much every day since, the middle class is rapidly deteriorating into the working poor, the national debt is ballooning, and all those trillions that got sucked out of the economy to fund the war effort means our national infrastructure is going to pieces -- bridges are falling into rivers, half of New Orleans was wiped off the face of the planet and there's no money to repair it, there are mass water shortages across most of the southern part of the country, and the list goes on.
A real pyrric victory we got here. Woo. Go us.. number one... number one... number one in debt.
Why are we using scare quotes for the word "rape"?
Because the Swedish definition of rape is "if I wake up the next day and regret it, then it's rape", not the "he forced me to have sex" that everyone else uses.
He has been screwed from day one, and nobody's going to help him because the United States is the thug nobody will stand up to. The message we've been sending post-9/11 has been consistently "We'll do whatever the hell we want, and if you get in our way, we'll squish you like a bug." We've created an entire extrajudicial system to punish anyone who disagrees with the current regime, setup internment camps for political prisoners, and we torture and kill civilians and foreign nationals after judging them in secret in the President's own Star Chamber.
Everything else is really pretext. The 'rape' charges, the media spin and control, the reveal that our government has an entire task force dedicated to psyops to discredit anyone who disagrees with our foreign or domestic policies... the government is out of control. We've become the terrorists we sought to destroy... and frankly... until someone punches America in the face so hard they flinch, nothing's going to change.
Although that said, our huge military investments while our infrastructure rots away and our middle class disintegrates is creating the exact same socioeconomic conditions that led to the sudden coup de etat and dissolution of the USSR. I would not be surprised if there is a civil uprising here in the next 10 years and the United States breaks up into several smaller countries. This may in fact have been the long-term strategy of Iran, Iraq, North Korea, etc. -- we have such a big ego and need for total dominance that we'll literally spend ourselves into a hole we can't get out of trying to maintain that, rather than acknowledging that we lost a fight and you know, that's okay sometimes (like every other country has had to). If all it took to bring down the largest military and economic power on the planet was a few airplanes flown into the side of buildings and some sabre rattling from some country built out of dirt claiming they're going to make nuclear weapons... It'll be the most effective force multiplication ever seen in warfare. Ever.
Who the hell is their focus group? I've not met a single person who doesn't use the start button.
Marketing executives that are trying to compete with Apple by appearing hip and trendy, but instead fouling things up so bad they're going to need a backhoe instead of a shovel.
You can not fine them too much, or they will be so scared of fines and court battles, they will hold back and not hire people, you do not want that do you?
Corporations want to be people. They should pay like people then too.
Does Comcast have to make it any easier for customers to find the stand alone-packages? I don't see that requirement anywhere in the summary or article..
It's a settlement. Basically the FCC and Comcast sat down and decided that it would be... cheaper... if they simply didn't use 2 point font to describe the alternatives than to put it through the legal system and an endless appeals process. If you're a conservative, it amounts to a government agency fleecing an innocent business to support their habit of taking businesses to court to enforce arbitrary standards. If you're a liberal, then it's a way of making a monopolistic business play well with others. And if you're politically agnostic, then it's a slow news day and this just confirms your belief that people are stupid and lazy.
Hmm. $800,000 fine. For a company that grossed 4.4 billion last year. If this was an individual making median income (47k USD), then this would be like fining them $0.09. That'll teach them!
Try the South's attempts to industrialise, countered by the North's attempts to keep that from happening unless the North got a serious cut of the money. The major market for the South's cotton was the textile mills of New England. The North's major market for those textiles was Engladn and Europe. The North didn't want to give up its monopoly. Hint: It worked. The South didn't industrialise until the Reconstruction. Now, all other things being equal, take slavery out of the equation. Without the labor supply or industrialisation, , the South would have been dirt poor, and easy to keep in line
It's been 150 years. They're still dirt poor. Maybe it's because that's the only thing the South has in abundance: Dirt. Well, dirt and a steadfast refusal to change. Meanwhile, in the North, we embraced change, technology, equality.. and now we're busy supporting the South with their shit infrastructure, water shortages, and high rates of unemployment, and corresponding low rates of literacy.
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yet if you mention this to people who live there they go absolutely bonkers denial on you. I guess I'm not speaking about the small minority who will profit from doing the math.
They believe suffering is good for the soul... and so, they suffer. Don't feel bad about it. It's what Jesus wants. Once they're all dead, we'll buy the land for cheap and redevelop it. In the meantime, we'll just exploit the cheap labor, and lock them into an unending life of debt and suffering... Someone has to work the salt mines. *shrugs*
The standard of living in the 3rd world would go up dramatically with free access to clean water.
There's a trend towards decreasing access to freshwater in many developed parts of the world as well. Much of the southern United States will be uninhabitable within our lifetimes if they do not secure another source of fresh water. I do not think just the '3rd world' has this problem. We will all be '3rd world' if the trend continues. And then no world... because almost all life on land depends on it.
"It's refreshing to see a security report from a security vendor that isn't all doom-and-gloom and loaded with FUD."
They're doing it wrong. Don't assume that if you can't see it, it isn't there.
Well, the US military has lots of satellite uplink capacity and capability; The latency is very reasonable (realtime drone piloting by pilots in the US flying in the Middle East!), and bandwidth is also massive; Most of what is transmitted is realtime video and telemetry...
It's easy to encrypt and tunnel traffic into the uplink, without a security problem... the issue is where to route the traffic once it comes out of one of the border routers. I think what the poster is looking for is a large VPN service to mix in the military users' traffic with regular users near a NAP, so that there's not single point where the traffic can be snooped.
How are they not in a datacenter with backup diesel generators and redundant internet egress points?
Something about maximizing profits... by cutting corners... perhaps.
It seems that recently, anything can take down the cloud,
It wasn't just anything that took down the cloud: it was another cloud.
It's the goddamned SECURITY that is the issue here, dear genius IT person
I guess I just don't see how two computers that have no electrical or wireless connection to one another can intefere with one another in a malicious fashion. Perhaps you could enlighten me, oh Ye of Infinite Knowledge?
You are proposing a non-military access point onto a vessel vested with the task of protecting the interests of the United States.
It's the goddamned internet... You have to hook it up SOMEWHERE . If I could, I'd build a plinth and put this comment on the top and a faceplate under that said "Stupidest Person in IT Award (2012)". I'm gonna go take a shower now... I feel dirty.
This would be an excellent trap to catch foreign agents.
When you are in the world of spies, the real one, not the one on TV... that would be an epic newbie mistake. The security concern here would be military personnel taking pictures, probably to send home to family or whatever, and it winds up on Facebook, and in the background is something sensitive that they were unaware of. Stuff like that. The idea of a foreign spy on a navy ship using the public internet to e-mail The Secret Recipe to their handler is... well... insanely retarded. They would use a broad spectrum rapid frequency shift low power portable radio... or just toss the evidence overboard with a locator beacon set on a timer... something more like that. You don't use the internet for that kind of thing if you want to live long.
The NSA is tasked with securing such communication and you should regardless of classification of data be using their equipment or at least an approved system. In that way you know that you at least are protected from your provider.Your users shouldn't even know you'd doing jack to their connection except to show as a US IP address. There should be no identifying information that points that IP to any military activity.
If you read between the lines, the poster is saying that this is an entirely separate network where the crew can bring their personal (non work) systems, and it will have no access or visibility to any of the ships systems or network. As such, those requirements go away. The Navy of course wants a US-based company to approach so they can monitor use and make sure that if another Wikileaks happens, they are a phone call away from saying "It was this guy, at this time, on this terminal," and also because US-based company means US-based laws -- and it's harder for a foreign national to penetrate a domestic service than a foreign one, especially after it gets hardened, which falls under the purvue of the DHS, not the NSA, in this case -- since the company is private, not military. And it probably will have cameras in the rec area, as all meeting and confidential areas on the ship do. So let's just go ahead and assume that the security people have already reviewed this and have green-lit it with the appropriate restrictions. They are, afterall, highly trained professionals. -_-
Remember that aircraft carriers have thousands of personnel, deployed for months at a time with no access to anything but the ship. Entertainment becomes incredibly important for crew morale, and the Navy recognizes the need to balance this; They want to give their crew access to everything you can do on the internet at home on their little slice of the United States afloat. And why shouldn't they?
Mom: "Hey, I just installed it. How come Netflix doesn't work? Or any of my cooking applications. How do I print? Why the hell does it display all those error messages everytime it starts up?"
Free doesn't mean more usable, and that's what Microsoft and Apple have on Linux... the reason why the Year of the Linux Desktop is perpetually reset to be about 2 years from now: Ease of use. It was designed by programmers, for programmers, and you can't get away from those roots no matter how hard you kick sand.
There is no possible way that you could convince me that you are smarter than 99% of the Scientists and Philosophers through history.
Perhaps he can't, but they only had access to about 1% of what we know have as a body of scientific, philosophical, medical, etc., understanding. And it's almost instantly searchable, so research takes hours, not months. It isn't to say their achievements we're great, but to say their perception of the world is somehow more valid because of intelligence alone is exceptionally arrogant.
(Reply killer: I understand child molesting is far worse than undesired tracking.)
I don't know about that. If child molesting is 10,000 times worse than web tracking, and web tracking is 100,000 times more common than child molesting, then web tracking is a problem 1,000 times worse than child molesting from a global standpoint.
It's MY router, I bought it. and it's not some quasi-goods digital product. This is a physical item.
The firmware remains the property of the company. It's software. Therefore, you don't own it. Of course, without firmware, it's useless, but I doubt you'll get many judges to sign on with the idea that you own the firmware too. Thank you copyright law.
I'll sign up with the class action if this is the case.
Your terms of service have been patched. That option was removed by v43 of SCOTUS. It was a mandatory update to legal.sys. You'll have to use the legacy mode 'civil_action' after setting has_lawyer to true and extra_money to lots. Be aware, the legacy mode is really buggy; It produces different results depending on the locale set during install. Enabling it also occasionally causes the processor and memory to jump to 100% utilization and the I/O is doggedly slow.
Hell, this isn't even cloud architecture anyway. It's just a web-based (pseudo-remote) remote administration tool. You'd think Cisco of all people would understand that.
Cisco engineers do. Cisco marketing does not. Cisco marketing sees the value of having a complete web browsing history of a substantial cross-section of the world, and has chosen to leverage that to increase profits post-SCOTUS patch, and since the CEO and the board signed a legally binding agreement to maximize profits, the engineers had no choice. You should welcome your capitalist overlords, and as a IT worker, you can help increase their efficiency as they enslave others in their salt mines.
Yeah, 9-11 really brought the US "down". About two months later the Taliban were out of power in Afghanistan. Now OBL is shark bait, and Al Qaeda management positions are the least popular career move in the Muslim world.
And we've been in a recession pretty much every day since, the middle class is rapidly deteriorating into the working poor, the national debt is ballooning, and all those trillions that got sucked out of the economy to fund the war effort means our national infrastructure is going to pieces -- bridges are falling into rivers, half of New Orleans was wiped off the face of the planet and there's no money to repair it, there are mass water shortages across most of the southern part of the country, and the list goes on.
A real pyrric victory we got here. Woo. Go us.. number one... number one... number one in debt.
Why are we using scare quotes for the word "rape"?
Because the Swedish definition of rape is "if I wake up the next day and regret it, then it's rape", not the "he forced me to have sex" that everyone else uses.
He has been screwed from day one, and nobody's going to help him because the United States is the thug nobody will stand up to. The message we've been sending post-9/11 has been consistently "We'll do whatever the hell we want, and if you get in our way, we'll squish you like a bug." We've created an entire extrajudicial system to punish anyone who disagrees with the current regime, setup internment camps for political prisoners, and we torture and kill civilians and foreign nationals after judging them in secret in the President's own Star Chamber.
Everything else is really pretext. The 'rape' charges, the media spin and control, the reveal that our government has an entire task force dedicated to psyops to discredit anyone who disagrees with our foreign or domestic policies... the government is out of control. We've become the terrorists we sought to destroy... and frankly... until someone punches America in the face so hard they flinch, nothing's going to change.
Although that said, our huge military investments while our infrastructure rots away and our middle class disintegrates is creating the exact same socioeconomic conditions that led to the sudden coup de etat and dissolution of the USSR. I would not be surprised if there is a civil uprising here in the next 10 years and the United States breaks up into several smaller countries. This may in fact have been the long-term strategy of Iran, Iraq, North Korea, etc. -- we have such a big ego and need for total dominance that we'll literally spend ourselves into a hole we can't get out of trying to maintain that, rather than acknowledging that we lost a fight and you know, that's okay sometimes (like every other country has had to). If all it took to bring down the largest military and economic power on the planet was a few airplanes flown into the side of buildings and some sabre rattling from some country built out of dirt claiming they're going to make nuclear weapons... It'll be the most effective force multiplication ever seen in warfare. Ever.
The IT industry has such a horribly short memory...
It's because there's still a 640k limit on the 15 hertz 'Human Brain' PC...
Who the hell is their focus group? I've not met a single person who doesn't use the start button.
Marketing executives that are trying to compete with Apple by appearing hip and trendy, but instead fouling things up so bad they're going to need a backhoe instead of a shovel.
Free-market conservative type of guy here. Just not a dumbass like the ones you conjure up.
*facepalm* The SARCASM TYPE=DRIPPING html tag gets eaten by the editor.
You can not fine them too much, or they will be so scared of fines and court battles, they will hold back and not hire people, you do not want that do you?
Corporations want to be people. They should pay like people then too.
Does Comcast have to make it any easier for customers to find the stand alone-packages? I don't see that requirement anywhere in the summary or article ..
It's a settlement. Basically the FCC and Comcast sat down and decided that it would be... cheaper... if they simply didn't use 2 point font to describe the alternatives than to put it through the legal system and an endless appeals process. If you're a conservative, it amounts to a government agency fleecing an innocent business to support their habit of taking businesses to court to enforce arbitrary standards. If you're a liberal, then it's a way of making a monopolistic business play well with others. And if you're politically agnostic, then it's a slow news day and this just confirms your belief that people are stupid and lazy.
Hmm. $800,000 fine. For a company that grossed 4.4 billion last year. If this was an individual making median income (47k USD), then this would be like fining them $0.09. That'll teach them!
Try the South's attempts to industrialise, countered by the North's attempts to keep that from happening unless the North got a serious cut of the money. The major market for the South's cotton was the textile mills of New England. The North's major market for those textiles was Engladn and Europe. The North didn't want to give up its monopoly. Hint: It worked. The South didn't industrialise until the Reconstruction. Now, all other things being equal, take slavery out of the equation. Without the labor supply or industrialisation, , the South would have been dirt poor, and easy to keep in line
It's been 150 years. They're still dirt poor. Maybe it's because that's the only thing the South has in abundance: Dirt. Well, dirt and a steadfast refusal to change. Meanwhile, in the North, we embraced change, technology, equality.. and now we're busy supporting the South with their shit infrastructure, water shortages, and high rates of unemployment, and corresponding low rates of literacy.
And to top it all off, our food is bland, and a kid can't even take a porn star to the prom without an uproar. This state is whack.
Speak for yourself. My food is awesome. You're probably doing it wrong.