What is a 'Disengagement'? That can't be the same as an 'intervention'. All accounts have Waymo at around 4900 miles per required interaction. Yet in this report there was one 'disengagement' for the entire month of Nov 2017 after driving 30,000 miles? Something doesn't add up. Also, miles driven means nothing if nothing unexpected is happening during most of those miles.
Waymo probably has their LIDAR working, but I don't imagine that gets them very far ahead of Uber at this point. Humans drive 551,370 miles in all situations and all kinds of weather and road services without even a fender-bender. Even Waymo is doing a fraction of that per 'safety driver' intervention. Also it is a problem set that gets exponentially harder as you get closer to the goal of being significantly safer than humans.
It shouldn't take more than a few hours to look at some similar incidents for precedent.
Yet it's the first time a woman is killed by a self-driving car, so I don't see how. Convincing the parties that this is the same as any distracted driver hitting any jaywalker would be dishonest.
And I have seen so many people claim EVs are almost service-free. Taking it into a specific service center whether they need service or not is the exact opposite of that.
I usually hate corporations and everything they do, but one thing Slashdot has taught me is that corporations operate to make the most money at the least cost, period. Trumps problem is really with the way capitalism works today, and I certainly hope he decides to make wise changes in that regard.
Not to mention the areas where skilled workers need to live get more and more condensed around tech hubs, thus increasing the cost of comfortable housing more than the salary increase.
Even Autopilot doesn't work in enough situations yet for us to truly know how safe it would be. People who buy Teslas with Autopilot go into it prepared to have to maintain concentration even though the car is driving, but not everyone can do that.
If you don't like taxi regulations, then seek to have them changed. Just don't sacrifice the benefits to the regulations because all you can see is the negative.
Well, I know as a driver I have to prove I have clear visibility and I am paying attention when I drive. I can get a ticket or worse for any violation of these rules. This is not paranoia, this is just expecting self-driving car companies to be held to the same standard. Having a safety driver doesn't cover it, because it's natural for a safety driver to be too distracted in a self driving car to take over effectively.
I know who Waymo is, don't understand what this has to do with the question? Companies are pushing this technology out half baked because they want to make money. Since we can't really trust anty company, what is being done to ensure the technology poses a minimum risk to the public? This case has shown that 'safety drivers' are not good enough since they will loose focus after some period of time.
What are the states doing to determine whether Waymo has the same flaws that Uber does? Maybe they're just being more careful with testing and are a ticking time bomb like Uber was.
Not to mention, the human fatality rate is on all roads, all vehicles, all weather, all circumstances.
Also, (I wasn't done) there are around 16,000 accidents per day, or 5,840,000 per year, meaning a self driving company needs to achieve a rate of 551,370 miles without an interaction in all conditions in order to be as safe as a human.
Humans drove 3.22 trillion miles in 2017 in the US and there are 32,000 deaths a year. This means all self driving cars need to drive 100,625,000 miles without a death to be as safe as a human. I wonder how close the Uber car got?
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What is a 'Disengagement'? That can't be the same as an 'intervention'. All accounts have Waymo at around 4900 miles per required interaction. Yet in this report there was one 'disengagement' for the entire month of Nov 2017 after driving 30,000 miles? Something doesn't add up. Also, miles driven means nothing if nothing unexpected is happening during most of those miles.
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Waymo probably has their LIDAR working, but I don't imagine that gets them very far ahead of Uber at this point. Humans drive 551,370 miles in all situations and all kinds of weather and road services without even a fender-bender. Even Waymo is doing a fraction of that per 'safety driver' intervention. Also it is a problem set that gets exponentially harder as you get closer to the goal of being significantly safer than humans.
Because medical bills don't cover inconvenience and emotional distress.
It shouldn't take more than a few hours to look at some similar incidents for precedent.
Yet it's the first time a woman is killed by a self-driving car, so I don't see how. Convincing the parties that this is the same as any distracted driver hitting any jaywalker would be dishonest.
And now they will proceed to program this calculation into every decision the car ever makes.
And I have seen so many people claim EVs are almost service-free. Taking it into a specific service center whether they need service or not is the exact opposite of that.
I was being a bit facetious, I don't really expect him to do the wise thing. He'll do the thing that helps him the most.
I usually hate corporations and everything they do, but one thing Slashdot has taught me is that corporations operate to make the most money at the least cost, period. Trumps problem is really with the way capitalism works today, and I certainly hope he decides to make wise changes in that regard.
I wonder if it would be somewhat dated by now. After all, OS/2 was considered 'promising' at one time too.
As places where you can move to get a job become more and more condensed it becomes more difficult to find a house there.
Not to mention the areas where skilled workers need to live get more and more condensed around tech hubs, thus increasing the cost of comfortable housing more than the salary increase.
If you don't pay for 'freeloaders' through taxes they'll just be more interested in breaking into your house and take it from you.
Why would you care what they do in the place other than where you live and use them?
Even Autopilot doesn't work in enough situations yet for us to truly know how safe it would be. People who buy Teslas with Autopilot go into it prepared to have to maintain concentration even though the car is driving, but not everyone can do that.
If you don't like taxi regulations, then seek to have them changed. Just don't sacrifice the benefits to the regulations because all you can see is the negative.
I thought there was going to be some rigorous certification process to demonstrate the car is at least close to humans in safety. I was wrong.
Well, I know as a driver I have to prove I have clear visibility and I am paying attention when I drive. I can get a ticket or worse for any violation of these rules. This is not paranoia, this is just expecting self-driving car companies to be held to the same standard. Having a safety driver doesn't cover it, because it's natural for a safety driver to be too distracted in a self driving car to take over effectively.
Humans drive 551,370 miles without getting into an accident. So current 'miles without an interaction' targets seem ridiculously short.
I know who Waymo is, don't understand what this has to do with the question? Companies are pushing this technology out half baked because they want to make money. Since we can't really trust anty company, what is being done to ensure the technology poses a minimum risk to the public? This case has shown that 'safety drivers' are not good enough since they will loose focus after some period of time.
What are the states doing to determine whether Waymo has the same flaws that Uber does? Maybe they're just being more careful with testing and are a ticking time bomb like Uber was.
46. That was life expectancy back then. You're saying you want to go back to those days?
Not to mention, the human fatality rate is on all roads, all vehicles, all weather, all circumstances.
Also, (I wasn't done) there are around 16,000 accidents per day, or 5,840,000 per year, meaning a self driving company needs to achieve a rate of 551,370 miles without an interaction in all conditions in order to be as safe as a human.
Humans drove 3.22 trillion miles in 2017 in the US and there are 32,000 deaths a year. This means all self driving cars need to drive 100,625,000 miles without a death to be as safe as a human. I wonder how close the Uber car got?
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