Then please let me claim town idiot and explain this article to me, which indicates the standard $35K model won't be available until late 2018 (which, let's face it, will probably get later and later with Tesla). here is the link to the article that I speak of.
Why, does it make an apples to apples comparison by peering into the future, when Autopolot is safe in all environments like humans are? Otherwise it says very little about this topic. The small demographic of Tesla owners are likely to be the safest drivers any way, and I would be to if I was in an $80K vehicle.
They found that 40% reduction in crashes when they were doing the investigation the month after Autopilot decapitated a guy on a trailer! Of COURSE everyone was being careful on Autopilot at that period in time.
The point is... whether stopping is the right move or not, shouldn't the automation be prepared to do the right thing to minimize damage? Surely 'carrying on at usual speed' is not the right thing to do.
When you calculate your rate, I hope you incorporate all hours doing paperwork, promoting yourself. When you're a corporation you basically have three jobs on top of your one job so the wage had better be enough for four jobs. Plus health coverage.
I've had a couple occasions (wet weather) where it did not see the car in front of me; I was watching, but by the time I reacted it was a lot closer than it had to be were I the one braking in the first place. I've had snow interfere with proximity sensors, and I'm not sure if I would hear the little 'ding' it makes if it disengaged while driving. Fortunately I have to say, it has not really disengaged on me ever. But you never know what is going to happen as vehicles age.
I have adaptive cruise control and I find it more relaxing as well. However, a lot of people just can't trust the sensor at the front of the vehicle. Some times I wonder if I should be trusting it as much as I do. It's not like if it gets splashed with mud and fails suddenly and I'm not watching at the right time, I'll be able to claim the automaker is at fault for the accident.
This situation is truly unfortunate. That being said, if self driving worked properly and wasn't just a pipe dream, I bet the number of overall accidents would be far less.
Why do the people who are out there knowing the risks mean so much, but the people who died to get to an automated vehicle that is 1% the ability of a human mean so little?
How many people are going to die before we are there? 3.22 trillion miles driven and humans have 16,000 accidents a month. They drive over 550K miles without getting in an accident in all weather and road conditions. Let's give Waymo the benefit of the doubt and say they achieve 7000 miles per interaction, that's still only 1.8% the safety of a human *in ideal conditions*; how many injuries and deaths have there been already to get to this point?
People understand the risk of driving and they drive. What people don't understand is how long it will take to make these cars workable.
It amazes me that often people don't recognize that driving a car is a potentially extremely dangerous activity. 100% attention is required at all times, particularly since other drivers often do things they shouldn't do.
Then putting Autopilot in a vehicle is illogical. You don't put something in a vehicle to steer for drivers while totally failing at relieving any kind of duty of driving. Eventually they will get sidetracked, it's just human.
Tesla said in a previous article that autopilot had done this route 85,000 times. I guess repetition doesn't necessarily mean success here. Big surprise.
If the car is that confused, it 'could' get in an accident simply by a bag blowing in the road. That's that point. If it understands the bag, then it is safe.
That *is* actual statistics. Humans drive 3.22 trillion miles in the US per year, and get into 16,000 accidents per month. It comes to 551,370 miles without an accident. We should assume each 'intervention' by a safety driver would have been an accident (the industry picked this method of measurement, not me), otherwise there wouldn't have been an intervention. Waymo is at around 4,900 miles per intervention which is 0.89% as safe as a human mile for mile; and consider that Waymo is picking *exactly* when they drive. And someone has already died. Self driving is a long way off.
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Then please let me claim town idiot and explain this article to me, which indicates the standard $35K model won't be available until late 2018 (which, let's face it, will probably get later and later with Tesla). here is the link to the article that I speak of.
Why, does it make an apples to apples comparison by peering into the future, when Autopolot is safe in all environments like humans are? Otherwise it says very little about this topic. The small demographic of Tesla owners are likely to be the safest drivers any way, and I would be to if I was in an $80K vehicle.
They found that 40% reduction in crashes when they were doing the investigation the month after Autopilot decapitated a guy on a trailer! Of COURSE everyone was being careful on Autopilot at that period in time.
Tesla's biggest increases in safety record come just after events like this one. Coincidence? I think not.
The point is... whether stopping is the right move or not, shouldn't the automation be prepared to do the right thing to minimize damage? Surely 'carrying on at usual speed' is not the right thing to do.
The warnings were 'some time before' and were resolved. There was no mention of warnings immediately prior to the accident.
Yes because everyone wants to be a double-earner family.
That's why your society is on its way down the toilet. You can't make one out of individuals.
When you calculate your rate, I hope you incorporate all hours doing paperwork, promoting yourself. When you're a corporation you basically have three jobs on top of your one job so the wage had better be enough for four jobs. Plus health coverage.
People drive 3.22 trillion miles a year
I've had a couple occasions (wet weather) where it did not see the car in front of me; I was watching, but by the time I reacted it was a lot closer than it had to be were I the one braking in the first place. I've had snow interfere with proximity sensors, and I'm not sure if I would hear the little 'ding' it makes if it disengaged while driving. Fortunately I have to say, it has not really disengaged on me ever. But you never know what is going to happen as vehicles age.
I have also heard many times that the bottom Model 3 is $60K. They never made the $35K model available.
I have adaptive cruise control and I find it more relaxing as well. However, a lot of people just can't trust the sensor at the front of the vehicle. Some times I wonder if I should be trusting it as much as I do. It's not like if it gets splashed with mud and fails suddenly and I'm not watching at the right time, I'll be able to claim the automaker is at fault for the accident.
This situation is truly unfortunate. That being said, if self driving worked properly and wasn't just a pipe dream, I bet the number of overall accidents would be far less.
FIFY, and I happen to agree with you.
If it isn't safe in ideal conditions, why the fuck is it a decision??
Ok well not one update has been much better to date, because they aren't much good at all.. when are those coming then?
Sorry, I thought deep learning was a term reserved for doing something useful. I think confused it with strong AI.
Why do the people who are out there knowing the risks mean so much, but the people who died to get to an automated vehicle that is 1% the ability of a human mean so little?
How many people are going to die before we are there? 3.22 trillion miles driven and humans have 16,000 accidents a month. They drive over 550K miles without getting in an accident in all weather and road conditions. Let's give Waymo the benefit of the doubt and say they achieve 7000 miles per interaction, that's still only 1.8% the safety of a human *in ideal conditions*; how many injuries and deaths have there been already to get to this point?
People understand the risk of driving and they drive. What people don't understand is how long it will take to make these cars workable.
Playing chess and go is not deep learning. It's knowing how to play Chess and Go.
It amazes me that often people don't recognize that driving a car is a potentially extremely dangerous activity. 100% attention is required at all times, particularly since other drivers often do things they shouldn't do.
Then putting Autopilot in a vehicle is illogical. You don't put something in a vehicle to steer for drivers while totally failing at relieving any kind of duty of driving. Eventually they will get sidetracked, it's just human.
Tesla said in a previous article that autopilot had done this route 85,000 times. I guess repetition doesn't necessarily mean success here. Big surprise.
If the car is that confused, it 'could' get in an accident simply by a bag blowing in the road. That's that point. If it understands the bag, then it is safe.
IF the car doesn't know what is going on, would that not cause an accident?
That *is* actual statistics. Humans drive 3.22 trillion miles in the US per year, and get into 16,000 accidents per month. It comes to 551,370 miles without an accident. We should assume each 'intervention' by a safety driver would have been an accident (the industry picked this method of measurement, not me), otherwise there wouldn't have been an intervention. Waymo is at around 4,900 miles per intervention which is 0.89% as safe as a human mile for mile; and consider that Waymo is picking *exactly* when they drive. And someone has already died. Self driving is a long way off.