Besides, I don't know what rental companies you use, but every one I use seems to provide 'little car' 'medium car' 'big car'. There are no tailored solutions.
It's not so much about the cost as it is about dealing with companies. When I buy a vehicle I deal with one company once and I'm done for 10 years. If I rent every weekend I must go back to that company again and again, sift though different plans and packages, and be constantly worried about damage that I do to it. Maybe you like shopping and trying to find that 'best deal' but I loathe it. We can quibble about what is cheaper, and I seriously doubt it would be, since there are two family members that need to travel to an office every day; but I can't see the convenience and stress factor changing and that is worth a lot of money to me.
Not really. People are easier to change, that is what government is for. The problem in America seems to be that Americans don't want government interfering in your lives. Here we don't mind if the government creates regulations for us because we realize it protects us from the people who are inconsiderate assholes and it is harder for people to regress to that state.
So say a cyclist rides out from behind a bus or other large solid object, if it needs to stop so quickly that it will injure the driver or stop less quickly and injure the pedestrian (or cyclist) then which will it choose? Well we get to know the policy that the automated car uses before we trust it with our family members?
I'm pretty sure what you say isn't true. At one time New York had 200,000 horses, that's lots of personal ownership. Farmers had horses. At the beginning of the great depression people used horses because they were cheaper than cars. At any rate, corporations are far worse for the economy then they were back then if you want to go that way. They suck far more money out of local economies without giving back then they ever have.
Then the market will have failed me. Having to rent a vehicle every weekend just to pop up north to the place I like to relax, or to go camping, would be pretty ridiculous. Renting a vehicle is a hassle and would pretty much make that kind of recreation unworkable. Renting is always more expensive and less convenient than owning.
I live in Canada. Maybe we have better drivers. I look at our roads though and there are no lines, there are still gravel roads in our city, treacherous driving in the winter with ice and snow and front end loaders and graters everywhere. Still I see an accident in the winter maybe once a month, and I don't see automated driving being able to handle it any time soon.
I'm a moron because I want to drive my own vehicle on a long trip rather than play by some company's rules for the vehicle I use? Bend over why don't you.
The self driving car model is going to fit right into the taxi driving model we have today... what is not completely clear about this? It seems people have some romantic view about what self driving cars will be like that requires companies to suddenly not care about maximizing profits and for people to suddenly care about the condition of property that isn't theirs.
Sure, because before cars people owned horses. But what is new is being beholden to private corporations to drive us around. This is what will limit our personal freesoms. Not the lack of cars, but complete inability to obtain a form of transportation ourselves. In fact, from what I see public transportation is threatened as well so we will be basically be paying a tax to a company to get to work every day.
Yeah yeah.. well I drove where I am writing this today without seeing anyone get in an accident. Something current automated driving couldn't do. I'll believe it when I see it.
Ok but my whole premise of this conversation was as a parent of twins and not wanting to install two carseats. So how safe is the double version of this convertable stroller? Or do they not make one, which makes this path of conversation irreverent?
Well where I am, auto insurance is a public corporation and they don't do stuff like that. Private insurance is crazy because yeah, anything can happen.
I have no problem with being fired for being gay. I have a big problem with being fired for some fabricated reason.
Personally I don't think either is acceptable, and I would urge you to have a higher regard for how you are treated. Beyond that I don't see the difference, either is equally as terrible.
Well, I'm assuming you are American. This is why most people have a lousy opinion of the average American. You can apply your right to free speech all you want. Insult Cubans once they let you into their country, etc. Just don't be shocked when most of the world is repulsed by you, because you don't understand anything about respecting the people around you.
I fear car sharing because no convenience comes for free. You are inviting a world where corporations track every movement and possibly even charge premiums to each certain areas.
Well you said 'auto driving trailer' which implies all one piece. That said, I have never been to a marina where they have a vehicle you can borrow to use to launch your boat. I can't see a marina lending their members a self driving vehicle capable of launching a boat.
Revenue drives jobs, not units sold.
Why would you buy a vehicle that you only use 2% of the time? That sounds horribly inefficient to me.
What does that have to do with renting cars for vacations?
Well, dislike of the government is another American thing.
Yeah so screw the minority right..
Besides, I don't know what rental companies you use, but every one I use seems to provide 'little car' 'medium car' 'big car'. There are no tailored solutions.
It's not so much about the cost as it is about dealing with companies. When I buy a vehicle I deal with one company once and I'm done for 10 years. If I rent every weekend I must go back to that company again and again, sift though different plans and packages, and be constantly worried about damage that I do to it. Maybe you like shopping and trying to find that 'best deal' but I loathe it. We can quibble about what is cheaper, and I seriously doubt it would be, since there are two family members that need to travel to an office every day; but I can't see the convenience and stress factor changing and that is worth a lot of money to me.
Not really. People are easier to change, that is what government is for. The problem in America seems to be that Americans don't want government interfering in your lives. Here we don't mind if the government creates regulations for us because we realize it protects us from the people who are inconsiderate assholes and it is harder for people to regress to that state.
So say a cyclist rides out from behind a bus or other large solid object, if it needs to stop so quickly that it will injure the driver or stop less quickly and injure the pedestrian (or cyclist) then which will it choose? Well we get to know the policy that the automated car uses before we trust it with our family members?
I'm pretty sure what you say isn't true. At one time New York had 200,000 horses, that's lots of personal ownership. Farmers had horses. At the beginning of the great depression people used horses because they were cheaper than cars. At any rate, corporations are far worse for the economy then they were back then if you want to go that way. They suck far more money out of local economies without giving back then they ever have.
Then the market will have failed me. Having to rent a vehicle every weekend just to pop up north to the place I like to relax, or to go camping, would be pretty ridiculous. Renting a vehicle is a hassle and would pretty much make that kind of recreation unworkable. Renting is always more expensive and less convenient than owning.
I live in Canada. Maybe we have better drivers. I look at our roads though and there are no lines, there are still gravel roads in our city, treacherous driving in the winter with ice and snow and front end loaders and graters everywhere. Still I see an accident in the winter maybe once a month, and I don't see automated driving being able to handle it any time soon.
I'm a moron because I want to drive my own vehicle on a long trip rather than play by some company's rules for the vehicle I use? Bend over why don't you.
The self driving car model is going to fit right into the taxi driving model we have today... what is not completely clear about this? It seems people have some romantic view about what self driving cars will be like that requires companies to suddenly not care about maximizing profits and for people to suddenly care about the condition of property that isn't theirs.
Sure, because before cars people owned horses. But what is new is being beholden to private corporations to drive us around. This is what will limit our personal freesoms. Not the lack of cars, but complete inability to obtain a form of transportation ourselves. In fact, from what I see public transportation is threatened as well so we will be basically be paying a tax to a company to get to work every day.
Yeah yeah.. well I drove where I am writing this today without seeing anyone get in an accident. Something current automated driving couldn't do. I'll believe it when I see it.
But it won't happen in the next 8 years, not everywhere in north america (meaning northern Canada as well).
Ok but my whole premise of this conversation was as a parent of twins and not wanting to install two carseats. So how safe is the double version of this convertable stroller? Or do they not make one, which makes this path of conversation irreverent?
So you're assuming there is data and/or phone service to book a reservation with?
Well where I am, auto insurance is a public corporation and they don't do stuff like that. Private insurance is crazy because yeah, anything can happen.
People buy things they can't afford all the time. it's called massive debt.
I have no problem with being fired for being gay. I have a big problem with being fired for some fabricated reason.
Personally I don't think either is acceptable, and I would urge you to have a higher regard for how you are treated. Beyond that I don't see the difference, either is equally as terrible.
Well, I'm assuming you are American. This is why most people have a lousy opinion of the average American. You can apply your right to free speech all you want. Insult Cubans once they let you into their country, etc. Just don't be shocked when most of the world is repulsed by you, because you don't understand anything about respecting the people around you.
I fear car sharing because no convenience comes for free. You are inviting a world where corporations track every movement and possibly even charge premiums to each certain areas.
Well you said 'auto driving trailer' which implies all one piece. That said, I have never been to a marina where they have a vehicle you can borrow to use to launch your boat. I can't see a marina lending their members a self driving vehicle capable of launching a boat.