I'm a developer who is currently under a huge crunch to get stuff done. I don't have time to spend to download stuff and research stuff, in fact I'm surprised I am still talking to you. I'm not comfortable with installing free third party tools I usually buy $400 thinkpads and I am accustomed to dealing with poor battery life. I just plug in and deal with it until Apple figures it out.
I was just saying that I was surprised that it will happen with an Apple. Apples are not community supported devices, so no, I do not feel responsible in any way to investigate this.
If I am buying less than the most expensive laptop on the market I expect to troubleshoot here and there. Not only do I have the 'most premium' device but I have shelled out for Applecare. I have paid good money for not having to worry about it. It's still a nice laptop. I like it more than I expected to. Just a little disappointed with the battery life that's all.
I thought Apples were supposed to 'just work' ? If that was really the case, none of this would matter. I bought an Apple and I do not want to deal with this.
You know, I was thinking about this last night, and it's kind of bullshit that they use smoke and mirrors to get the battery lifetime they advertise. It should not be 10 hours of battery time assuming you are running cooperative software that plays nicely and can be optimized. It should be 10 hours battery life period. Certainly it should have at least 60% of that optimized.
1 month old macbook pro with touchstrip, battery life down to 1.5 to 2 hours doing regular development tasks. Originally when I got the macbook it was more like 5 hours, was never close to 10. After maybe 50 charges battery life is down to 1 hour. The proposition above was that the culprit was Safari, but the same thing is happening with Firefox then because I never use Safari.
I have to say, the touch bar is quite a pain. I was fine hitting ESC to exit things and now ESC doesn't work in some cases. You look down, and you now see that there is a button in the middle of the strip for 'Cancel'. But by then the workflow is so interrupted, it's terrible. Also, the keys I used *repeatedly* such as ctrl-F12 in my editor has now become Fn-Ctrl-F12. This is a big deal if you're hitting it every 10 seconds.
But the company, especially one that charges premium prices like Apple, can and should control the number of 'failures' that occur. They have a lot of control over the quality of the parts that are put in, and they are supposed to be the one you go to if you don't want problems.
With the money Uber has, they could build a fake test town ten times over, then run different scenarios with professionals who know what they are getting themselves into.
Except you buy the wrong battery pack and it blows up you computer and Apple makes it your fault, because it isn't 'Apple certified' so, no you can't do that. I just searched a little bit for a 60-watt "Apple Ceritifed" battery pack and couldn't find any.
"Then I realized that every time I knocked it out I was doing something that would have been gradually breaking any poorly made connector."
There, I fixed it for you. Moving around in bed should break a connector? Really? Or you could get a thinkpad and not worry about the connector breaking.
So you want to add to the carnage? Is that really the way to go here? It's going to take four generations for this to gain mass adoption and long before that, the manual cars will probably be talking to each other and preventing accidents anyway.
Man just get a Thinkpad and forget about it. The secret is to make the connector properly in the first place. USB-C doesn't fall out, but now it is just a small piece of metal and a plastic casing that sticks out an inch from the laptop. I'm most concerned about breaking this USB-C adapter.
Magsafe tends to be really bad if you do things like use your laptop in bed while plugged in. It comes out all the time, every time you move the laptop. It makes me wonder who these people are that just can't get the proper cord so that it doesn't string across where people might be walking. I mean a $2 extension cord is all it would take.
The battery kind of sucks. At first it seemed good to me, it would last 5-6 hours with a Ubuntu VM running and development software.. But the one on mine is down to maybe an hour after a month of use. A '10 hour battery' in a Macbook Pro should not drop to an hour as soon as you use it for professional stuff. I haven't done a lot of testing to see if I run the laptop with just a browser if it will still last longer but that's not really the kind of use I bought a 'pro' laptop for.
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I'm a developer who is currently under a huge crunch to get stuff done. I don't have time to spend to download stuff and research stuff, in fact I'm surprised I am still talking to you. I'm not comfortable with installing free third party tools I usually buy $400 thinkpads and I am accustomed to dealing with poor battery life. I just plug in and deal with it until Apple figures it out.
I was just saying that I was surprised that it will happen with an Apple. Apples are not community supported devices, so no, I do not feel responsible in any way to investigate this.
If I am buying less than the most expensive laptop on the market I expect to troubleshoot here and there. Not only do I have the 'most premium' device but I have shelled out for Applecare. I have paid good money for not having to worry about it. It's still a nice laptop. I like it more than I expected to. Just a little disappointed with the battery life that's all.
Well, I will wait for them to fix it and then I expect them to cover it. Right now it's not that worth it to me to spend time on it.
I thought Apples were supposed to 'just work' ? If that was really the case, none of this would matter. I bought an Apple and I do not want to deal with this.
You know, I was thinking about this last night, and it's kind of bullshit that they use smoke and mirrors to get the battery lifetime they advertise. It should not be 10 hours of battery time assuming you are running cooperative software that plays nicely and can be optimized. It should be 10 hours battery life period. Certainly it should have at least 60% of that optimized.
Well I ran 'top' and there is no heavy CPU utilization. Certainly not by any browser.
1 month old macbook pro with touchstrip, battery life down to 1.5 to 2 hours doing regular development tasks. Originally when I got the macbook it was more like 5 hours, was never close to 10. After maybe 50 charges battery life is down to 1 hour. The proposition above was that the culprit was Safari, but the same thing is happening with Firefox then because I never use Safari.
You can, but you have to add every app that you want to do it for. There is no way to just show the function keys for everything all the time.
Well I use Firefox on a brand new Macbook pro and my battery sucks. So, no that's not it.
I have to say, the touch bar is quite a pain. I was fine hitting ESC to exit things and now ESC doesn't work in some cases. You look down, and you now see that there is a button in the middle of the strip for 'Cancel'. But by then the workflow is so interrupted, it's terrible. Also, the keys I used *repeatedly* such as ctrl-F12 in my editor has now become Fn-Ctrl-F12. This is a big deal if you're hitting it every 10 seconds.
The batteries in the new macbooks are soldered in. I'm not even sure how I would open the case.
But the company, especially one that charges premium prices like Apple, can and should control the number of 'failures' that occur. They have a lot of control over the quality of the parts that are put in, and they are supposed to be the one you go to if you don't want problems.
I'm just saying, it isn't going to be 'Corporation America' if that is the worst thing for Trump's businesses globally.
You know that Trump has huge financial interests in other countries, right?
Management is a much more finite decision tree than driving a car.
With the money Uber has, they could build a fake test town ten times over, then run different scenarios with professionals who know what they are getting themselves into.
Except you buy the wrong battery pack and it blows up you computer and Apple makes it your fault, because it isn't 'Apple certified' so, no you can't do that. I just searched a little bit for a 60-watt "Apple Ceritifed" battery pack and couldn't find any.
"Then I realized that every time I knocked it out I was doing something that would have been gradually breaking any poorly made connector."
There, I fixed it for you. Moving around in bed should break a connector? Really? Or you could get a thinkpad and not worry about the connector breaking.
My experience with magsafe was from a 2009 unibody aluminum. Pretty sure that is magsafe 1?
That's the thing about Apple. Every discussion ends with twenty bucks.
So you want to add to the carnage? Is that really the way to go here? It's going to take four generations for this to gain mass adoption and long before that, the manual cars will probably be talking to each other and preventing accidents anyway.
Man just get a Thinkpad and forget about it. The secret is to make the connector properly in the first place. USB-C doesn't fall out, but now it is just a small piece of metal and a plastic casing that sticks out an inch from the laptop. I'm most concerned about breaking this USB-C adapter.
Magsafe tends to be really bad if you do things like use your laptop in bed while plugged in. It comes out all the time, every time you move the laptop. It makes me wonder who these people are that just can't get the proper cord so that it doesn't string across where people might be walking. I mean a $2 extension cord is all it would take.
The battery kind of sucks. At first it seemed good to me, it would last 5-6 hours with a Ubuntu VM running and development software.. But the one on mine is down to maybe an hour after a month of use. A '10 hour battery' in a Macbook Pro should not drop to an hour as soon as you use it for professional stuff. I haven't done a lot of testing to see if I run the laptop with just a browser if it will still last longer but that's not really the kind of use I bought a 'pro' laptop for.