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Torrent Website ExtraTorrent Under DDoS Attacks; Pirate Bay Also Down (torrentfreak.com)
It's getting harder for people who don't like paying for movies, music, and applications. Popular torrent website ExtraTorrent is suffering an outage Tuesday, the site confirmed. The site says it is on the receiving end of DDoS attacks, observing 40 to 50 million requests coming from the United States every hour. The site told TorrentFreak that it has been facing "tons of cyberattacks" over the past three days. The Pirate Bay is also down for many users. Users who try to access the site get a CloudFlare downtime warning, or a new Captcha error.
Not down for me. Still loads just fine
I sure hope our government catches and punishes the criminals who took the law in their own hands and started these DDOS attacks.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
I sure hope our criminals catch and punish the government who took the law in their own hands and started these DDOS attacks.
sudo rm -r -f --no-preserve-root /
lol, The RIAA and MPAA have finally figured out how to stop piracy
I guess I'll never get the Under The Rainbow sequel I pined for...
where i get my illegal content now??? someone stop the criminals
Fuck off, Spielberg.
You don't need reasons to feel entitled to something. On top of that doing something against the rules if you can get away with it is basically standard business practice for most big organisations, why are common citizens expected to behave differently?
> It's getting harder for people who don't like paying for movies, music, and applications
Uh oh, someone told the truth. Around here we're supposed to pretend that it's something else, other than being cheap.
Maybe that first sentence can be edited to say "people who get no value from the work of record companies". Obviously these people don't want what record companies offer them. That's why they are listening to the 53 million songs by 14 million artists that are available on Myspace, while ignoring the few thousand released by the major labels recently.
What's that? These people are doing the opposite, unlawfully downloading the few songs that the major labels released this week, while ignoring the 53 million songs they can legally get for free, the ones that aren't produced by the major labels? I wonder why they insist on getting the major label music and ignore the vast majority of music, which isn't produced by major labels. I guess they actually DO really want something that the major labels offer, they're just crooks who decide to take it illegally rather than spend the $1 to buy it on itunes or Amazon or whatever.
because they can actually be held responsible.
by buying CD/DVD/BR's at pawnshops. Support the local brick and mortar pirates.
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
really? hard?... erm, not exactly.
getting "easier" to pay for things you dont need is a very long term trend.
but harder to pirate? that has to be a joke.
It used to take days for downloads of a low quality movie to complete. even after you spent who knows how long searching for it to start in the first place.
now were at minutes from "think i want to watch this" to sat on local storage ready to watch from any device forever more.
Even the paid for services still dont offer that. most of the time it takes minutes just to trawl through their godawful ui.
I see it in a similar vein.... For as long as we've had the ability to use technology to save duplicate copies of print, audio, video or computer software content, we've had this raging "piracy" debate. But nothing's really changed.
If you're in an industry that makes its money from charging to redistribute copies of content, it's in your best financial interest to leverage any possible angle to prevent anyone ELSE from doing the same thing you charge money to do. Meanwhile, the consumer simply wants copies of particular pieces of the content for personal use and enjoyment -- so he/she is looking for any angle to obtain as much as possible at the lowest possible cost.
I'd like to know who these mythical people are who LIKE paying for movies, music and applications? In reality, nobody I know enjoys spending their hard-earned money for these things. It's simply a compromise made depending on the circumstances. (EG. A new movie comes out and you really want to be among the first to see it. Your only reasonable option is to pay the movie theater's price for a ticket to view it there. Otherwise, you're probably only going to get a very sub-standard quality bootleg copy of the movie (at best) to watch at home - which isn't going to do the movie any justice. Same might apply if you want to own a particular music album that's difficult to find. You might not have any avenues to download a free copy so you resort to paying the asking price to buy it.)
There are, of course, other considerations that have to do with the "value adds" of paying for a legal copy of a piece of content. You might appreciate having a digital license on a service like Steam for a video game, because it adds convenience. (Instead of having to protect a physical piece of media from damage or loss, it exists in the "cloud", tied to your account, indefinitely. Any time you want to reinstall the game on a new computer, even years later? It's right there for you in Steam when you log in.)
But IMO -- all of this "push and pull" is just a natural condition that comes with the territory. If I was a content distributor, I'd concentrate on making sure I had the most convenient and easy to use service for purchasing the content, and added as much value as I could to the whole process. I wouldn't waste time on the legal end of things, trying to chase down and eliminate "pirates" -- because in most cases, the "pirate" one day can be your customer the next. There will always be far more content to consume than anyone has time to digest ... and there will always be only some small subset of what you're offering for sale that any one person will be willing to purchase from you.
> Or, maybe they want DRM-free recordings in the quality/format that *they* choose and which can't be "disappeared" from their "library" at the whim of some corporation
iTunes sold DRM-encumbered music for six years. For the last eight years, it's been standard MP3 that you can save to any storage you prefer. So your excuse is nearly a decade out of date.
Well fighting piracy DOES work to some degree. If you can make it slightly harder it will eliminate more piracy. For example I don't pirate now, because I know my ISP tracks it using DPI of traffic. Some people take the next step of getting a VPN, but I didn't. My main point is it beneficial for you to minimize your expenditures. I don't feel guilty about it either. Apple/Microsoft/etc all minimize their tax bills. It is just good business.
It's all those fan-boys looking for the Star Wars Holiday Special from 1978.
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because they can actually be held responsible.
Not if they get a quality VPN. See, sometimes there are technical solutions for social problems after all. It's definitely not the preferred route, but when your opponents are powerful monied copyright interests who are extremely determined, then you take what you can get.
> it's impossible for them to change that policy at their whim with an updated TOS.
Well yes, it is. That's kinda the point of getting a DRM-free mp3 when you pay your dollar - you can copy that mp3 to any of your devices and nobody can take it away from you. It's *exactly* the same as downloading an mp3 via Bittorrent, except you're not a crook.
> Yes, because iTunes is the only digital distribution platform and has every recording ever made
Apple, Google and Amazon are the top three, probably accounting for 90% of all downloads and yeah they all do DRM-free mp3 and sometimes other formats like flaac.
Face it, your excuse is well passed it's "use by" date. Time to either a) pay your dollar or b) admit you're just a crook, simple as that. Same as shoplifting.
So can the corps.
The fact that they don't is simply a lack of political and social will.
Much like for 99.99999999999% of pirates.
It was only matter of time before they hired Russia.
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Same here. I've begun to loathe new blockbuster movies. They're generic, boring and I'd never watch again. Any movie that I've watched more than 5x I've legally purchased. The rest, I've watched, had the privilege to discuss as a new topic, then never wanted to see it again.
Presidential elections also.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
> It's like cheap but without any alternatives.
As indicated in the subject line of this thread, just Myspace alone offers 53 million free songs by 14 million artists. The vast majority of music is free. Contrary to your belief, apparently, you will in fact NOT die from lack of Justin Bieber.
It would be just as valid to claim it is harder to protect free speech because commercial interests (possibly paying the US government) are shutting down websites that the commercial interests find awkward, even when they are not committing any crime (tpb are not committing any crime in the country they host in). If you insist that it's the internet, therefore it's a crime in the USA where people can read it, then you need to remove all your coverage of tibet, NK and most of the middle east since they are against the law of those countries where you cannot make certain claims against the ruling powers or denigrate them in any way.
And also remove all those pics of mohammed. Muslims can download them in their browsers.
if you had a steam account with two factor and lost your phone see ya all that i do not feel thats pirating though it is iligitimate sources.
pirates! ifyou like it buy it.
You can always use Spotify for free legally to see if you like the music and then buy the album to get rid of the advertisements.
I started using extratorrent after kickass torrents went down. Extratorrent is a shitty, shitty site where almost every click you make loads spamvertising of some sleazy-ass sort. Click to sort by seeders? New window instead, with spam instead of a sorted list of torrents.
So I turned off javascript, which worked for a while, until they started pulling this bullshit "Please enable Javascript to see site content". Mhm. More like "Please enable Javascript so we can clickjack you into oblivion". And the site admins have the nerve to be rude to site users that complain about their scammy, shitty behaviour.
If Extratorrent wasn't so shitty to its users, maybe this DDoS wouldn't be happening.
It's the Wild West. The suits are playing with the hackers' toys. Eventually they'll learn how to do it well, then where will we be?
The battlefield will eventually migrate to the brick-and-mortar world.
Fire and water can make a big mess of a lot of expensive equipment.
What do I pirate the most of? Books actually. I also buy lots of physical books used though too.
> But giving the MAFIAA my money? That would be immoral AND stupid (not because I spend a little money, because it's against my own future freedom).
When you boycott a company, for moral reasons or any other, you don't use their products. Stealing the product isn't a boycott. If you ignore the 99.99% of music that's not produced by RIAA, and instead steal the RIAA music, that's not because it "would be immoral" to listen to most music, it's because you a) like what RIAA provides you, and b) would rather steal things than pay for it.
If I'm wrong, I'm very much looking forward to you explaining why it's "stupid AND immoral" to listen to Leannasaurus Rex or the other 14 million bands that aren't represented by the RIAA. So tell me, why exactly is it "stupid AND immoral" to listen to Leannasaurus Rex?
Let me rephrase: if you enjoy it while playing - buy it! Liking has nothing to do with profit - there might be million of people who would say, that they like the game and then go and buy something else and play it.
Pirating of games is not an issue, as it is impossible to enjoy services and socialisation otherwise. I think, I've bought enough of games on steam for next years to come, as most of them are not even used - around 90% of them are only to satisfy my sense(disorder) for collection. And because of that I'm buying mostly when there is huge discount.
I know my ISP tracks it using DPI of traffic.
In which country is that legal?
Why are you still using that ISP?
Cool, so I'll just come to your place, steal your stuff and murder you. It's okay that I do it since other people do it too!
Cool, so I'll just come to your place, steal your stuff and murder you. It's okay that I do it since other people do it too!
You just inadvertently described what it's like to live in an active war zone where all semblance of governance has broken down.
Again, they key is "as long as you don't get caught". In the middle of a war zone your chances of getting caught are much lower, so you actually could get away with that in the right circumstances. In any country with a functioning government, it's generally much harder to not get caught.
Just don't scoff and dismiss offhand those who decide to survive when push comes to shove by tossing conventional morality out the door instead of dying as a morally upstanding victim.
its 2016. torrent is still a thing? pirating is still a thing? wow. your species is doomed.
Tell me if I'm missing something here:
radio recording
cassette mix tapes
high-speed dubbing
VCR
BBS
FTP
DVD ripping
Napster
bittorrent
stream ripping
You'd think someone would notice just how much easier and faster it gets with each iteration.