Their taking a big gamble for their $13 clear an hour (based on a $16K vehicle lasting 250,000km). People have totaled their vehicles and not been covered.
When they let the taxi business run unregulated it was dangerous and bad for the cities residents. So they introduce controls on the market and it's too corrupt for you. What's the solution then?
Why would the comfort of 99% of the people be denied, because of the abuse of 1% that can't handle it properly?
Happens all the time in life. Why must I adhere to a 40 mph speed limit that is set for the worst driver in a certain area if I can safely drive well above that? I'm more comfortable driving the speed I want to drive. If we are to live together in a society safely and not fighting with one another, everyone can't get what they want all the time. It is up to the people making the laws and the products to figure out which is the safest thing to do, and releasing a driving system with such deficiencies is not it.
So, say the person that went before you chooses to drive off the road and shortcut one of these curves and that gets in the GPS data.. how does Tesla know that it is not actually where the road goes and prevent everyone else from doing the same thing? It still sounds like you are only using Autopilot where there is closed highway and not a lot of intersections and cross traffic, where most accidents would occur.
Actually after rereading your post, I've decided to change my answer anyway. When we are in the sky I assume the pilots step out.. thats what autopilot is for. What's going to happen at 25,000 feet? The problem is that people think driving on the highway is as risk free as being in the air but it's not.
You're comparing apples to oranges. I repeat.. Autopilot can only be used in places that are already safe. Distracted driving may kill people, but these fatalities rarely happen on an open road where Autopilot would be in use. A person can drive down an open highway happily texting on their phone for hours. The accident happens when they get to an intersection, which Autopilot isn't going to help you with.
I understand cruise control. It relieves you from having to hold your foot in a certain place for a long period of time. With cruise control there is no requirement to still use your foot even though it advertises to relieve you of using your foot. Once you set cruise and take your foot away you don't have to visualize your foot still on the pedal. Yet with Autopilot you still have to drive in your head even though it drives. Just seems redundant and useless.
Musk is an idiot for giving the impression the system is better than it really is
That is inherently a problem with open market capitalism. Where does exaggeration and misinformation you require for marketing a product end and were to real usability facts begin? If Musk had been completely forthright and honest he likely would have sold half the units.
This leaves people struggling to find the point of it. Especially people who have laid down a king's ransom for the car. People in this state frequently fill in the blanks on their own and do the wrong thing.
Then they should disable for everyone because everyone is an idiot in some way. Problem solved. Hey or maybe they shouldn't have released it in this state in the first place.
My parents were confused once while traveling on the public system in Paris. The booth at the train station they were at was closed. They had a very nice lady help them purchase a three day pass, only to find out they really got a one day pass and had paid for three.
Autopilot can only be used in situations that are already quite safe (long straight highways) and have to be disengaged if anything complicated happens, so the safety record means nothing.
To be fair, it would be pretty damn impossible for a long trailer to pull out on a major road without having someone slow down for it. The driver would have a very long wait (possibly hours). If you're going to go down that path then we need to ban all tractor trailers because they can't be driven safely.
The thing is, for a driver that could drive straight down a highway lane (and I hope most of them can) they don't need the assistance of Autopilot if that's all it does. Yet people have bought this thing for a lot of money with eager intentions to have it So people conveniently forget what it says in the manual and stretch it to do something useful for them, which is to drive unattended. Maybe it's stupid, not really any point debating that because it's an inevitable result of human psychology nonetheless. It amazes me that companies working on AI can be so ignorant about the way people really think. Perhaps they need to hire more psychologists and less engineers.
Sure, no one is forcing them to use autopilot but that's one of the primary reasons they have spent money on the car; so they will use it whether they are using it correctly or not. The trick with vehicles up until now is to close the door on any possible way for it to be used incorrectly. Suicide doors are gone, rumble seats are gone, child safe windows and doors, no option to turn off air bags, the list goes on. All those things are gone because they hurt people and were deemed to be a bad idea. So should be the same with autonomous driving. It's not ready for cars, I don't even think it should be in a real vehicle yet, it should be tested more in simulators.
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*GASP* Uber drivers aren't perfect?
Just wait for automated vehicles and watch Uber eat Lyft for lunch and become the ONLY player in the industry. Then you'll see race to the bottom.
Their taking a big gamble for their $13 clear an hour (based on a $16K vehicle lasting 250,000km). People have totaled their vehicles and not been covered.
It's supplemental income.
Like everything else these days.
When they let the taxi business run unregulated it was dangerous and bad for the cities residents. So they introduce controls on the market and it's too corrupt for you. What's the solution then?
Why would the comfort of 99% of the people be denied, because of the abuse of 1% that can't handle it properly?
Happens all the time in life. Why must I adhere to a 40 mph speed limit that is set for the worst driver in a certain area if I can safely drive well above that? I'm more comfortable driving the speed I want to drive. If we are to live together in a society safely and not fighting with one another, everyone can't get what they want all the time. It is up to the people making the laws and the products to figure out which is the safest thing to do, and releasing a driving system with such deficiencies is not it.
So, say the person that went before you chooses to drive off the road and shortcut one of these curves and that gets in the GPS data.. how does Tesla know that it is not actually where the road goes and prevent everyone else from doing the same thing? It still sounds like you are only using Autopilot where there is closed highway and not a lot of intersections and cross traffic, where most accidents would occur.
Yes because avoiding busy roads when you are in the middle of a major city just requires a GPS. Is this GPS going to make the truck fly?
Actually after rereading your post, I've decided to change my answer anyway. When we are in the sky I assume the pilots step out.. thats what autopilot is for. What's going to happen at 25,000 feet? The problem is that people think driving on the highway is as risk free as being in the air but it's not.
You're comparing apples to oranges. I repeat.. Autopilot can only be used in places that are already safe. Distracted driving may kill people, but these fatalities rarely happen on an open road where Autopilot would be in use. A person can drive down an open highway happily texting on their phone for hours. The accident happens when they get to an intersection, which Autopilot isn't going to help you with.
I understand cruise control. It relieves you from having to hold your foot in a certain place for a long period of time. With cruise control there is no requirement to still use your foot even though it advertises to relieve you of using your foot. Once you set cruise and take your foot away you don't have to visualize your foot still on the pedal. Yet with Autopilot you still have to drive in your head even though it drives. Just seems redundant and useless.
It's a big deal because you can't fault people for being human, but you can fault companies for releasing dangerous products.
If the sun was in the drivers eyes then it would have been behind the trailer, not 'glinting' off of it.
So you've basically made all tractor trailers illegal then, since in most places it is impossible to drive them in that manner.
Musk is an idiot for giving the impression the system is better than it really is
That is inherently a problem with open market capitalism. Where does exaggeration and misinformation you require for marketing a product end and were to real usability facts begin? If Musk had been completely forthright and honest he likely would have sold half the units.
This leaves people struggling to find the point of it. Especially people who have laid down a king's ransom for the car. People in this state frequently fill in the blanks on their own and do the wrong thing.
Because technology companies are allowed to do anything they want if it is cool enough.
Then they should disable for everyone because everyone is an idiot in some way. Problem solved. Hey or maybe they shouldn't have released it in this state in the first place.
My parents were confused once while traveling on the public system in Paris. The booth at the train station they were at was closed. They had a very nice lady help them purchase a three day pass, only to find out they really got a one day pass and had paid for three.
Autopilot can only be used in situations that are already quite safe (long straight highways) and have to be disengaged if anything complicated happens, so the safety record means nothing.
To be fair, it would be pretty damn impossible for a long trailer to pull out on a major road without having someone slow down for it. The driver would have a very long wait (possibly hours). If you're going to go down that path then we need to ban all tractor trailers because they can't be driven safely.
The thing is, for a driver that could drive straight down a highway lane (and I hope most of them can) they don't need the assistance of Autopilot if that's all it does. Yet people have bought this thing for a lot of money with eager intentions to have it So people conveniently forget what it says in the manual and stretch it to do something useful for them, which is to drive unattended. Maybe it's stupid, not really any point debating that because it's an inevitable result of human psychology nonetheless. It amazes me that companies working on AI can be so ignorant about the way people really think. Perhaps they need to hire more psychologists and less engineers.
Sure, no one is forcing them to use autopilot but that's one of the primary reasons they have spent money on the car; so they will use it whether they are using it correctly or not. The trick with vehicles up until now is to close the door on any possible way for it to be used incorrectly. Suicide doors are gone, rumble seats are gone, child safe windows and doors, no option to turn off air bags, the list goes on. All those things are gone because they hurt people and were deemed to be a bad idea. So should be the same with autonomous driving. It's not ready for cars, I don't even think it should be in a real vehicle yet, it should be tested more in simulators.
Cars idling at a stop light cause more pollution than cars driving down an open highway.
You have a good point... except that a plane is nothing like a car. If a plane stops you die. If a car stops you park.
I disagree. Everyone benefits when traffic is stopped as little as possible while driving safely. More traffic controls make driving less efficient.