There was room in the economy for corporations to grow before you were born. These days CEOs wonder where they will get the next growth from to dispense to the shareholders. You think Coca-cola has a new beverage around the corner that no one has need before? You think they have a market to grow into? Do we need a seven, eight, nine bladed razor?
Oh and since we now have the 'gig economy', they can buy all their supplies, tools, and a ride to the job site with that minimum wage as well. No need for the customer to cover expensive overhead.
And when all lorry drivers learn skilled trades? As a person who is having a lot of renovation work done I look forward to the day there are 100, or even 20, electricians in my area begging for work. More likely a good one will accept a minimum wage rate.
Compound that with the fact that people generally find the job that is intellectually right for them. If the lorry driver was capable of being Elon Musk, then he probably wouldn't have been a lorry driver in the first place, or at least as a stepping stone and not for long.
So once they prove that SDCs will actually benefit society like a car or a bicycle; meaning they work, are BETTER than a human, and can be scaled to a proportion of traffic enough that they can make a statistical difference, THEN people should accept some cost. Right now there is no evidence these things will happen. No, Uber coming into my city with a fleet of SDCs isn't going to change much. SDCs being affordable for everyone will be the turning point.
I was excited when ebooks first came out because I thought they would be more affordable, I was quite shocked to see the prices. I guess it doesn't matter much to me, because it ends up my family doesn't like reading books on electronic devices anyway, including my kids who are on their phones all the time. They still prefer real books.
Even if somebody else is driving today the owner must have insurance, then the insurance company goes after whoever is at fault.
Because it is within the power of the person driving to control the vehicle, so the owner must ensure the person is reliable. If no one is actually controlling the car, you have a different situation. It's like riding a bus or taxi all the time. You don't insure a bus to ride on it.
There's probably rules for how a construction site should be marked today
Yes there is, but none of it involves mapping an exact route digitally on a map so cars don't go bombing through the construction site. Cones and blockades and signs need to be set up a certain way, but will what they do today be enough for autonomous vehicles? If there is extra time or extra technology required then there is extra cost. Tax payers should not be footing the bill if there is only a minority with autonomous vehicles.
Well, I'm in Canada. Our government is actually interested in keeping us safe. This means roads are paved so snow can be cleared. If snow doesn't get cleared and someone gets hurt, it's on the government if they don't have a reasonable way into the hospital. I didn't realize America was that bad.
Who funds the modification of the signs? Yes I know the technology is cheap, but city labor isn't. Automated car companies can feel free to start a fund to do it, but it shouldn't be on the taxpayers. Perhaps the city could do it but charge a fee to autonomous car owners to recoup the money.
We own lots of physical books. Frequently we can get a book for $15 at Costco but the ebook is the full retail price of $25. Why wouldn't you buy the physical version? Then you have the option of keeping it if you want to read it again, or lending it to someone, or giving it to a second hand book sale (which is a common charity). All you can do with an ebook is delete it.
So you have made preparations for someone to come and take your house without notice? Because that's essentially what you are saying people should just deal with.
Where I live, there is so much space it doesn't really matter; I know someone personally who just purchased a 169 acre lot. The Japanese are inherently far more polite and accepting of their environment than Americans are. Due to gun control, they have near zero gun deaths a year. I doubt America could easily reach the density of Japan without conflict.
I doubt society will last long with everyone crammed into cities. With increased density comes increased crime, more insensitivity, and greater conflict. Authorities have a more difficult time keeping up, since any small issue can flare up quickly. It becomes more difficult to get help to people who need it. You can't treat humans like sardines and still expect them to act human. As I alluded to, there is a notable difference in how people behave to each other here and America is already on the brink of major civil conflict as it is.
Also, everyone around me pays property taxes to support the services we have, which are much lighter because we don't need maintained water supply, gas supply or sewage. We would live without a paved road or without garbage pickup every week. I don't see anything getting that bad.
So what you are saying is that self driving cars will cause more problems for people. In that case I don't agree with them at all, until someone can demonstrate one that is MUCH safer than humans.
Considering I moved where I am now to get away from huge populations, I doubt it. My house is private and surrounded by nature, yet I can drive 10 minutes to a Costco where people don't fight over parking spots because the one store that is here is actually reasonable to serve the population. I'm not breathing in pollution. It shows in everyone here who are friendly because they are happy.
You can keep your dystopia that has everyone crowded into one small space as people scrap each other to keep their own little piece of it.
Besides, that's not how local governments represented the taxi industry when these people went in and you know it. These people were completely duped, and that's why they get so backed into a corner they are now killing themselves.
If we took today's self driving car and replaced every normal car with one, we would see at least a fifty-fold increase in death rate. This is conservative, when taking into account the amount of miles Waymo is driving without an 'intervention' versus the amount of miles a human drives without an accident.
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You can master skilled trades all you want, your wage will always be capped by the number of people in your trade.
The labor shortage is good for people in skilled trades. It's a good thing because it keeps their wages up. End that and people struggle to survive.
No one has seen* before.
There was room in the economy for corporations to grow before you were born. These days CEOs wonder where they will get the next growth from to dispense to the shareholders. You think Coca-cola has a new beverage around the corner that no one has need before? You think they have a market to grow into? Do we need a seven, eight, nine bladed razor?
Oh and since we now have the 'gig economy', they can buy all their supplies, tools, and a ride to the job site with that minimum wage as well. No need for the customer to cover expensive overhead.
And when all lorry drivers learn skilled trades? As a person who is having a lot of renovation work done I look forward to the day there are 100, or even 20, electricians in my area begging for work. More likely a good one will accept a minimum wage rate.
Compound that with the fact that people generally find the job that is intellectually right for them. If the lorry driver was capable of being Elon Musk, then he probably wouldn't have been a lorry driver in the first place, or at least as a stepping stone and not for long.
So once they prove that SDCs will actually benefit society like a car or a bicycle; meaning they work, are BETTER than a human, and can be scaled to a proportion of traffic enough that they can make a statistical difference, THEN people should accept some cost. Right now there is no evidence these things will happen. No, Uber coming into my city with a fleet of SDCs isn't going to change much. SDCs being affordable for everyone will be the turning point.
Because there is no evidence SDCs can WORK, never mind having the critical mass required to make a dent in traffic fatalities.
I was excited when ebooks first came out because I thought they would be more affordable, I was quite shocked to see the prices. I guess it doesn't matter much to me, because it ends up my family doesn't like reading books on electronic devices anyway, including my kids who are on their phones all the time. They still prefer real books.
Even if somebody else is driving today the owner must have insurance, then the insurance company goes after whoever is at fault.
Because it is within the power of the person driving to control the vehicle, so the owner must ensure the person is reliable. If no one is actually controlling the car, you have a different situation. It's like riding a bus or taxi all the time. You don't insure a bus to ride on it.
There's probably rules for how a construction site should be marked today
Yes there is, but none of it involves mapping an exact route digitally on a map so cars don't go bombing through the construction site. Cones and blockades and signs need to be set up a certain way, but will what they do today be enough for autonomous vehicles? If there is extra time or extra technology required then there is extra cost. Tax payers should not be footing the bill if there is only a minority with autonomous vehicles.
Well, I'm in Canada. Our government is actually interested in keeping us safe. This means roads are paved so snow can be cleared. If snow doesn't get cleared and someone gets hurt, it's on the government if they don't have a reasonable way into the hospital. I didn't realize America was that bad.
Who funds the modification of the signs? Yes I know the technology is cheap, but city labor isn't. Automated car companies can feel free to start a fund to do it, but it shouldn't be on the taxpayers. Perhaps the city could do it but charge a fee to autonomous car owners to recoup the money.
We own lots of physical books. Frequently we can get a book for $15 at Costco but the ebook is the full retail price of $25. Why wouldn't you buy the physical version? Then you have the option of keeping it if you want to read it again, or lending it to someone, or giving it to a second hand book sale (which is a common charity). All you can do with an ebook is delete it.
Not to mention, contributing to electronics in dumps.
As long as they don't create problems for people who never asked for autonomous driving. I sure don't care how long it takes.
So you have made preparations for someone to come and take your house without notice? Because that's essentially what you are saying people should just deal with.
Where I live, there is so much space it doesn't really matter; I know someone personally who just purchased a 169 acre lot. The Japanese are inherently far more polite and accepting of their environment than Americans are. Due to gun control, they have near zero gun deaths a year. I doubt America could easily reach the density of Japan without conflict.
I doubt society will last long with everyone crammed into cities. With increased density comes increased crime, more insensitivity, and greater conflict. Authorities have a more difficult time keeping up, since any small issue can flare up quickly. It becomes more difficult to get help to people who need it. You can't treat humans like sardines and still expect them to act human. As I alluded to, there is a notable difference in how people behave to each other here and America is already on the brink of major civil conflict as it is.
Also, everyone around me pays property taxes to support the services we have, which are much lighter because we don't need maintained water supply, gas supply or sewage. We would live without a paved road or without garbage pickup every week. I don't see anything getting that bad.
So what you are saying is that self driving cars will cause more problems for people. In that case I don't agree with them at all, until someone can demonstrate one that is MUCH safer than humans.
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Considering I moved where I am now to get away from huge populations, I doubt it. My house is private and surrounded by nature, yet I can drive 10 minutes to a Costco where people don't fight over parking spots because the one store that is here is actually reasonable to serve the population. I'm not breathing in pollution. It shows in everyone here who are friendly because they are happy.
You can keep your dystopia that has everyone crowded into one small space as people scrap each other to keep their own little piece of it.
Besides, that's not how local governments represented the taxi industry when these people went in and you know it. These people were completely duped, and that's why they get so backed into a corner they are now killing themselves.
Well, I guess you would consider it fortunate that they are committing suicide; for it means your tax dollars don't have to support them.
If we took today's self driving car and replaced every normal car with one, we would see at least a fifty-fold increase in death rate. This is conservative, when taking into account the amount of miles Waymo is driving without an 'intervention' versus the amount of miles a human drives without an accident.