You are absolutely correct, and people look stupid when they use the term "global warming" given that no warming has occurred over the last several years despite significant increases in CO2.
I was alive in the 70's when the great ice age was coming, but you never hear about that either:-)
There's no question that money laundering schemes politicians come up with that have "green" in the marketing plan are very good for the politicians and the corrupt businessmen who profit from them. It's the new cronyism, rob people of their money because they feel good about being ripped off. What's incredible is the number of people who fall for this crap.
If one were to really dig into this, they would surely find that the makers of the charging stations are corrupt to the bone, and are looking to get rich off the government teat. They conspired with eight blue states, who's population is easily duped, and they have come up with a new way to steal from the people and pad their greedy pockets.
In 1903 the electric car was a fierce competitor with the internal combustion engine. In 1903 the electric car had about a 40 mile range, using lead acid batteries. Fast forward one hundred and ten years and the range of the electric car in real life... is about 40 miles. Yet politicians have hoodwinked a large segment into the population into believing that we if just throw enough of YOUR money at the problem, it will be magically solved, using unicorns and pixie dust to overcome the laws of chemistry and physics.
Never mind the fact that many here have pointed out, nobody actually knows where the electricity to run all these cars is going to come from, and nobody is talking about the environmental impact of producing that many batteries.... The same people pushing electric cars are the same people who are slowly destroying our ability to generate electricity in the first place. Or the fantasy that a solar panel on the roof of your garage is going to power your daily drive.
We have failure after failure after failure of green energy schemes to do any of us any good - and in the post mortem analysis it turns out that the whole thing was just a way to take money from YOU, give it to some evil and greedy businessman, and they then returned a good portion of that money to the corrupt politician, who used it to give the businessman more breaks. Living in Michigan, we have seen this right before our eyes more than once in the past few years alone.
So here we have eight corrupt states with sucker populations who are going to pay some exorbitant sum for a fantasy that will only put money into the incumbents pockets, insuring that they remain in power, and the people in those states get screwed. And we have legions of passionate idealists who wouldn't know the reality of how this will work in practice if it hit them in the face.
Putting all of our effort into electric cars, because of slick marketing, means we aren't actively looking at every other alternative, we aren't open to other ideas, and we are committing ourselves to a path that has the highest short term profit, not what's best for you, the consumer.
It's the same story with so many other things... Al Gore comes to mind... Wind Farms - that work in a few places, sure, but generally do not pay for themselves unless the government steals money from you to make up the difference.
We had the Ethanol scam - Where a group of greedy agribusiness companies led by ADM used their powerful lobby to sell us on Ethanol, not because it was good for the environment, but because it was good for their profit. They sold us a package where the amount of Ethanol produced per year was fixed - assuring them a steady guaranteed client in any economic condition. Then gasoline consumption went down, because the economy sucks, and surprise the refiners are now sitting on massive stockpiles of ethanol they were forced to buy by this onerous legislation. The solution? Force us all to buy even more of the stuff, reducing gas mileage and costing us all more. This is how this will turn out too.... Who will be hurt the most? Poor people, minorities, and the middle class -- the exact people the feel good crowd claims to want to protect.
And the government continues to help corporations like ADM with this
Chevrolet has admitted it looses some $70,000 on every Volt. This is coming out of all of our pockets. This is not sustainable. The same thing is happening with Ethanol. electric cars, wind farms, and many other bright ideas. Just be patient, despite the government dictating the rules of physics by imperial decree sooner or later you simply run out of other people's money, and these things have to stand on their own.
Anyone who votes in favor of the state attaching a box to your car to "record mileage" needs to immediately check in to the nearest mental facility, as they are clearly psychotic and should not be allowed to walk the streets.
Corruption at every level of government has created massive unfunded liabilities that no city, county, or state will EVER be able to pay. And yet we have people howling about how we need to increase spending!! You can't tax people enough to pay for what the cities, counties, and states have already committed to if you confiscate all of their wealth. Seriously, people, this is where we are whether you like it or not.
Every city and every state is inexorably marching towards the fate of Detroit, Michigan unless they get their act together. I'd like to point out that Detroit was exclusively ruled by Democrats for forty years... This is a fact not some crackpot theory.
Even the lapdog media is running stories today about what a complete disaster this is, and how the Democrats own it.
Of course the liberals who post online will find someone else to blame, it is their #1 skill, it is always someone else's fault, always, no matter what.
Yes, the Federal Contracting process has been politicized and turned into a bribery system like no other. Sadly that never comes up when talking about issues like climate science, solar energy, ethanol, etc. -- all of which have been hopelessly corrupted by politics.
Selectively enforcing laws, that's OK? Making an enemies list, and using the full power of the Federal Government to harass them, including the IRS, that's OK? Not passing a budget, that's OK? Using Federal funds for purely political endeavors, that's OK? Ruling by imperial decree, that's OK?
I am sure they are, because Republicans didn't do them. Stop being so polarized, you're part of the problem when you start screaming treason.
Ah the "Infrastructure" argument... which is complete nonsense.
We're spending more in infrastructure today, than we were spending during the Eisenhower administration, when we were building the Interstate Highway System.
So why do Democrats constantly call for Infrastructure spending? Simple. It benefits the Teamsters, who are huge contributors to the party. What happens is that the projects are sold with a clause that ensures Union labor, at inflated prices, and the contractors/unions return the favor by returning those profits to the party coffers. It is one of the many forms of money laundering where the party steals from the public trust to put money in their pockets. It's disgraceful, immoral, and completely legal - because they wrote the laws to make it so.
The same system is employed within the SEUI and the Federal Workforce. The more Federal Workers, the more income for Democrats. Andy Stern, former head of the SEIU, earned the title "Thugs' Thug". Seriously.
If you want to see this in the fullest display, study Detroit, a city that had 40 years of Democratic Party rule. Note that many members of the previous administration are in prison, and the city is bankrupt. Why do think the UAW got handed a percentage of GM when the bondholders got screwed? Same reason. It was a bribe. In Detroit the Unions, the Mafia, and the Democrats are all exactly the same people. Chicago is the same way, that's where Obama learned politics.
The Republicans have their own schemes, of course, but they are no where as good at this as the Democrats are.
The evil Tea Party wants this to stop, which is why loyal Democrats are trained to hate them....
So this is being setup as the new excuse for the poor economic performance resulting from the Obama Administration's economic policies.
Betcha the "fix" is another massive barrel of pork and bribes, usually called a "stimulus" Of course the only thing actually stimulated are the party favorites.
So rather than actually implement any meaningful policy, the entire focus of our government is who to blame, PATHETIC EPIC FAIL
You call the teenager a racist, homophobic, women hating, poor people hating terrorist who wants to starve grandma and hates children and is against clean air and water.
Then, when he crashes the car, you refuse to talk about it. When he straightens out, and tries to pay for the damage you scream that you are being held hostage.
Add in the war on poverty (epic fail), the war on drugs (epic fail), NASA after the moon landings (fail), HUD (epic fail), Department of Education (epic fail), etc. and one can only conclude that these are JOB programs, nothing more. Despite this track record, and the latest epic fail, Obamacare sign up, and you'd think a few people might figure this out, but for reasons I cannot explain, they don't.
Thanks for the response. It is pretty scary stuff.
A long time ago, when the Democrats stood for the rights of the Individual I was solidly in their camp. What this latest crop of Democrats have tried to accomplish is truly terrifying, they have "for real" put serious effort into creating an army of brainwashed drones, the same as Hitler's brown shirts who later became the SS. It's a good thing the Democrats are poor at executing their crazy ideas, or we would be beyond all hope already.
The creation of an enemies list, using Federal agencies to go after political enemies - We have never seen anything like this, ever.
What's truly amazing to me is that we have people defending them, passionately arguing that they are right, buying into the whole demonize the opponent, make them larger than life, refuse to negotiate propaganda that has caused incalculable human suffering over thousands of years. Fomenting hate against amorphous group of people based on their beliefs, their skin color, their income, etc. in order to gain power is the sickest and most disgusting form of human behavior.
OFA - Organizing for America. Obama's Army of Citizen Volunteers.
These are the internet trolls who you find spreading glorious stories of the grand successes of Dear Leader's great leaps forward. It is an entirely new political phenomenon in America that we have never seen before.
The person the administration trotted out as the "First Person to Sign up for Obamacare" was, in fact, an OFA worker, who did not actually sign up.
This is a tactic the Obama Administration has used many times in the past. Sandra Fluke, for example, was presented as an average college student, nothing special, blah blah blah - In fact, she was very politically active, a member of Obama's Citizen Army, and had been specifically groomed for the grand stunt in front of congress. The media, of course, sucked it right up. It's called state sponsored propaganda in other countries... but in Amerika it's simply not covered as such.
So if they have to have state sponsored staged events showing success - it is more than a glitch, it's a dismal and complete failure.
A few months from now we'll find out that less than 10 people signed up the first week, and everything else we were told was a lie. Back when I was young and passionate we had a president named Nixon who did far less than Obama, and the nation was horrified beyond belief that President could do such things.
Thank you, Stenvar. I am so tired of "The Narrative" where every other country has such a grand system, and our country is so screwed up, if we would just be more like them - - from people who have never been to these other countries!! How many Americans would happily fork over 50% of their income plus a 20% VAT for crappy doctors and long waits? Not many!!
That explains why the conservatives were completely shut out of the bill authoring process, why the bill passed without a single Republican vote, and why the Senate passed it using a procedural trick that enabled a simple up/down vote. No large social engineering project has ever been rammed down our throats in this manner, ever.
But remember folks, the Democratic party, they are the party of the "Big Tent" and want everyone to talk. What a crock.
The $40 Asprin came as a result of stupid government regulations. So did many of the ridiculous practices that we now have. The truth is that the government has done more to drive up the cost of healthcare than any other party.
Insurance companies want the same every other company does. Happy customers, happy employees, and happy investors. What government wants is more and more power, and more money in the pockets of the politicians, who get richer and richer.
The fantasy that large groups of people in corporations are by definition EVIL and large groups of people working in government are by definition benevolent is incredibly naive and misguided. The truth is that large groups of people working in government are the most evil of all.
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You are absolutely correct, and people look stupid when they use the term "global warming" given that no warming has occurred over the last several years despite significant increases in CO2.
:-)
I was alive in the 70's when the great ice age was coming, but you never hear about that either
So you favor stealing money from the rest of us (That's where that subsidy money comes from) in order to support your personal decision.
And I am sure you rant about how evil corporations steal from the people too, don't you?
There's no question that money laundering schemes politicians come up with that have "green" in the marketing plan are very good for the politicians and the corrupt businessmen who profit from them. It's the new cronyism, rob people of their money because they feel good about being ripped off. What's incredible is the number of people who fall for this crap.
If one were to really dig into this, they would surely find that the makers of the charging stations are corrupt to the bone, and are looking to get rich off the government teat. They conspired with eight blue states, who's population is easily duped, and they have come up with a new way to steal from the people and pad their greedy pockets.
In 1903 the electric car was a fierce competitor with the internal combustion engine. In 1903 the electric car had about a 40 mile range, using lead acid batteries. Fast forward one hundred and ten years and the range of the electric car in real life... is about 40 miles. Yet politicians have hoodwinked a large segment into the population into believing that we if just throw enough of YOUR money at the problem, it will be magically solved, using unicorns and pixie dust to overcome the laws of chemistry and physics.
Never mind the fact that many here have pointed out, nobody actually knows where the electricity to run all these cars is going to come from, and nobody is talking about the environmental impact of producing that many batteries.... The same people pushing electric cars are the same people who are slowly destroying our ability to generate electricity in the first place. Or the fantasy that a solar panel on the roof of your garage is going to power your daily drive.
We have failure after failure after failure of green energy schemes to do any of us any good - and in the post mortem analysis it turns out that the whole thing was just a way to take money from YOU, give it to some evil and greedy businessman, and they then returned a good portion of that money to the corrupt politician, who used it to give the businessman more breaks. Living in Michigan, we have seen this right before our eyes more than once in the past few years alone.
So here we have eight corrupt states with sucker populations who are going to pay some exorbitant sum for a fantasy that will only put money into the incumbents pockets, insuring that they remain in power, and the people in those states get screwed. And we have legions of passionate idealists who wouldn't know the reality of how this will work in practice if it hit them in the face.
Putting all of our effort into electric cars, because of slick marketing, means we aren't actively looking at every other alternative, we aren't open to other ideas, and we are committing ourselves to a path that has the highest short term profit, not what's best for you, the consumer.
It's the same story with so many other things... Al Gore comes to mind... Wind Farms - that work in a few places, sure, but generally do not pay for themselves unless the government steals money from you to make up the difference.
We had the Ethanol scam - Where a group of greedy agribusiness companies led by ADM used their powerful lobby to sell us on Ethanol, not because it was good for the environment, but because it was good for their profit. They sold us a package where the amount of Ethanol produced per year was fixed - assuring them a steady guaranteed client in any economic condition. Then gasoline consumption went down, because the economy sucks, and surprise the refiners are now sitting on massive stockpiles of ethanol they were forced to buy by this onerous legislation. The solution? Force us all to buy even more of the stuff, reducing gas mileage and costing us all more. This is how this will turn out too.... Who will be hurt the most? Poor people, minorities, and the middle class -- the exact people the feel good crowd claims to want to protect.
And the government continues to help corporations like ADM with this
Chevrolet has admitted it looses some $70,000 on every Volt. This is coming out of all of our pockets. This is not sustainable. The same thing is happening with Ethanol. electric cars, wind farms, and many other bright ideas. Just be patient, despite the government dictating the rules of physics by imperial decree sooner or later you simply run out of other people's money, and these things have to stand on their own.
Anyone who votes in favor of the state attaching a box to your car to "record mileage" needs to immediately check in to the nearest mental facility, as they are clearly psychotic and should not be allowed to walk the streets.
Corruption at every level of government has created massive unfunded liabilities that no city, county, or state will EVER be able to pay. And yet we have people howling about how we need to increase spending!! You can't tax people enough to pay for what the cities, counties, and states have already committed to if you confiscate all of their wealth. Seriously, people, this is where we are whether you like it or not.
Every city and every state is inexorably marching towards the fate of Detroit, Michigan unless they get their act together. I'd like to point out that Detroit was exclusively ruled by Democrats for forty years... This is a fact not some crackpot theory.
Classic blamestorming. If there's one idea taken from the opposition, then the whole idea is the oppositions fault, therefore we are not to blame.
Even the lapdog media is running stories today about what a complete disaster this is, and how the Democrats own it.
Of course the liberals who post online will find someone else to blame, it is their #1 skill, it is always someone else's fault, always, no matter what.
Yes, the Federal Contracting process has been politicized and turned into a bribery system like no other. Sadly that never comes up when talking about issues like climate science, solar energy, ethanol, etc. -- all of which have been hopelessly corrupted by politics.
Selectively enforcing laws, that's OK? Making an enemies list, and using the full power of the Federal Government to harass them, including the IRS, that's OK? Not passing a budget, that's OK? Using Federal funds for purely political endeavors, that's OK? Ruling by imperial decree, that's OK?
I am sure they are, because Republicans didn't do them. Stop being so polarized, you're part of the problem when you start screaming treason.
Correct and that is exactly why the Democrats refuse to do any budgeting...
Ah the "Infrastructure" argument... which is complete nonsense.
We're spending more in infrastructure today, than we were spending during the Eisenhower administration, when we were building the Interstate Highway System.
So why do Democrats constantly call for Infrastructure spending? Simple. It benefits the Teamsters, who are huge contributors to the party. What happens is that the projects are sold with a clause that ensures Union labor, at inflated prices, and the contractors/unions return the favor by returning those profits to the party coffers. It is one of the many forms of money laundering where the party steals from the public trust to put money in their pockets. It's disgraceful, immoral, and completely legal - because they wrote the laws to make it so.
The same system is employed within the SEUI and the Federal Workforce. The more Federal Workers, the more income for Democrats. Andy Stern, former head of the SEIU, earned the title "Thugs' Thug". Seriously.
If you want to see this in the fullest display, study Detroit, a city that had 40 years of Democratic Party rule. Note that many members of the previous administration are in prison, and the city is bankrupt. Why do think the UAW got handed a percentage of GM when the bondholders got screwed? Same reason. It was a bribe. In Detroit the Unions, the Mafia, and the Democrats are all exactly the same people. Chicago is the same way, that's where Obama learned politics.
The Republicans have their own schemes, of course, but they are no where as good at this as the Democrats are.
The evil Tea Party wants this to stop, which is why loyal Democrats are trained to hate them....
So this is being setup as the new excuse for the poor economic performance resulting from the Obama Administration's economic policies.
Betcha the "fix" is another massive barrel of pork and bribes, usually called a "stimulus" Of course the only thing actually stimulated are the party favorites.
So rather than actually implement any meaningful policy, the entire focus of our government is who to blame, PATHETIC EPIC FAIL
You forgot "C":
You call the teenager a racist, homophobic, women hating, poor people hating terrorist who wants to starve grandma and hates children and is against clean air and water.
Then, when he crashes the car, you refuse to talk about it. When he straightens out, and tries to pay for the damage you scream that you are being held hostage.
Works for a lot of people in this country.....
You're in danger here, as you are offering facts that don't fit "The Narrative". Make sure you have your asbestos underwear on.
Absolutely correct.
Add in the war on poverty (epic fail), the war on drugs (epic fail), NASA after the moon landings (fail), HUD (epic fail), Department of Education (epic fail), etc. and one can only conclude that these are JOB programs, nothing more. Despite this track record, and the latest epic fail, Obamacare sign up, and you'd think a few people might figure this out, but for reasons I cannot explain, they don't.
You are absolutely correct. This is why the left wins the media battle every time.
Standing on the Senate floor and calling your opposition Terrorists is front page news.
Calmly saying We need to have a rational debate about the debt/deficit gets no coverage at all.
It's a self fulfilling prophesy that insures that nothing gets done, year after year.
Thanks for the response. It is pretty scary stuff.
A long time ago, when the Democrats stood for the rights of the Individual I was solidly in their camp. What this latest crop of Democrats have tried to accomplish is truly terrifying, they have "for real" put serious effort into creating an army of brainwashed drones, the same as Hitler's brown shirts who later became the SS. It's a good thing the Democrats are poor at executing their crazy ideas, or we would be beyond all hope already.
The creation of an enemies list, using Federal agencies to go after political enemies - We have never seen anything like this, ever.
What's truly amazing to me is that we have people defending them, passionately arguing that they are right, buying into the whole demonize the opponent, make them larger than life, refuse to negotiate propaganda that has caused incalculable human suffering over thousands of years. Fomenting hate against amorphous group of people based on their beliefs, their skin color, their income, etc. in order to gain power is the sickest and most disgusting form of human behavior.
OFA - Organizing for America. Obama's Army of Citizen Volunteers.
These are the internet trolls who you find spreading glorious stories of the grand successes of Dear Leader's great leaps forward. It is an entirely new political phenomenon in America that we have never seen before.
The person the administration trotted out as the "First Person to Sign up for Obamacare" was, in fact, an OFA worker, who did not actually sign up.
This is a tactic the Obama Administration has used many times in the past. Sandra Fluke, for example, was presented as an average college student, nothing special, blah blah blah - In fact, she was very politically active, a member of Obama's Citizen Army, and had been specifically groomed for the grand stunt in front of congress. The media, of course, sucked it right up. It's called state sponsored propaganda in other countries... but in Amerika it's simply not covered as such.
So if they have to have state sponsored staged events showing success - it is more than a glitch, it's a dismal and complete failure.
A few months from now we'll find out that less than 10 people signed up the first week, and everything else we were told was a lie. Back when I was young and passionate we had a president named Nixon who did far less than Obama, and the nation was horrified beyond belief that President could do such things.
SS, sure. The IRS, I am not so sure...
Please move to a society you approve. I hear Eastern Europe is real nice.
Simple. Liberals cannot do math.
If this was actually true, and not some OFA plant, the DHHS would be able to type SELECT COUNT(*) FROM ENROLEES and give us an answer.
The fact that they can't, says hardly anyone has actually signed up.
Thank you, Stenvar. I am so tired of "The Narrative" where every other country has such a grand system, and our country is so screwed up, if we would just be more like them - - from people who have never been to these other countries!! How many Americans would happily fork over 50% of their income plus a 20% VAT for crappy doctors and long waits? Not many!!
That explains why the conservatives were completely shut out of the bill authoring process, why the bill passed without a single Republican vote, and why the Senate passed it using a procedural trick that enabled a simple up/down vote. No large social engineering project has ever been rammed down our throats in this manner, ever.
But remember folks, the Democratic party, they are the party of the "Big Tent" and want everyone to talk. What a crock.
The $40 Asprin came as a result of stupid government regulations. So did many of the ridiculous practices that we now have. The truth is that the government has done more to drive up the cost of healthcare than any other party.
Insurance companies want the same every other company does. Happy customers, happy employees, and happy investors. What government wants is more and more power, and more money in the pockets of the politicians, who get richer and richer.
The fantasy that large groups of people in corporations are by definition EVIL and large groups of people working in government are by definition benevolent is incredibly naive and misguided. The truth is that large groups of people working in government are the most evil of all.
ONE medicare fraud case two years ago created a loss equal to the ENTIRE PROFIT OF THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY FOR A YEAR.
So saying "there is some fraud" is an astounding mis-statement of fact.