The problem is the current poster child for genetically engineered foods is Monsanto. They are effectively the RIAA/MPAA of GE foods. You bought some seeds, and want to replant some seeds produced by those plants? Nope, that is copyright/patent infringement. You don't intend to copy their product, but seeds accidentally fall on your farm by natural dispersion (someone playing licensed music too loudly), they feel they can sue you for the leaked material.
The thing that has me pulling my hair out over this debate is this. It would be good to see scientists and experts argue back and forth, or even give a consensus. But as you say, they are drowned out. The two voices that get all the ink in newspapers either are the equivalent of the RIAA or people who want all music banned because RIAA is a bunch of crooks.
And stupid ones. Never forget people are stupid. Nobody is 100% on the ball at all times.
Even then, the terrorist(s) themselves might be on the ball, but everyone around them? Look, employees at my cousin's job are stupid enough to tell family members confidential information who then go out to the bar and loudly shout it out, especially when they were all told "You will be fired for leaking this, this is only being told to you all because we know some of you are disgruntled because we don't trust you. Don't prove us right. YOU WILL BE FIRED."
All it takes is one loose lip to the wrong person who thinks Twitter is private.
You think laws are bad enough in lagging behind technology? This would take it to a whole new level. I can see it now.
"By joining this territory free country you have rejected your citizenship in every physical country. The international laws do not recognize virtual countries. We are going to keep you in this cell for a while..."
Sunshine can be good or bad (disinfectant and sunburn). Some good teachers might get burned, but look at the scenario from a few steps back.
A public institution decided to try a rating system, and the public wanted to see the results of the time and money put into it. Their time and money. Yes, it could be flawed. I'd look more kindly upon the teachers myself If the teachers provided an alternative other than run an add that reads at the very top "You can't rate good teachers, so don't even try evaluating us at all. You might accidentally harm a good teacher!"
You're right. This group of teachers don't want any thumb pressing down on them. Imagine any other group, Doctors, Congress people, police, anyone saying "There is no way to rate a x!".
Oh sure, hold up the 1:4:9s as the standard of beauty. Anorexic slabs. Its bad enough that they go through purge cycles. Just look at what they did to Jupiter. Now if they maintained a healthy mass...
Oracle may have been overzealous by a far degree. The process this is taking is likely very stupid. Many have been thrown out. However, that doesn't mean the last few aren't legally sound under the current system/process. Maybe they aren't. The most obvious offenders were withdrawn. It is now time to test the sturdier ones to the law process.
Who knows, maybe Oracle will loose and set a useful precedent for the Googles?
Would that be enough, however? I fear, though, that this might be the new handwriting analysis craze. Still, each person has quirks to their writing to some degree. For one, I think my usual quirk stands out quite well, yeah.
I exaggerated it for the sake of making it obvious. I wonder how well this system at picking up things like this. Meaning, if I started talking like this:
Yo dawg, the meta-battle between anons and the man is heating up. Cool story bro, but we need fight this now. Our privacy is in danger of being shot down like a clay pigeon at a shoot out, yeah?
There is an expectation of privacy on your own property. Just where the line is drawn can be iffy at times. In my media law course this was called the tree principle.
1) You are allowed to take a photo of a person from the sidewalk (public property) if they are in their yard or even through the window with a normal lens. Nothing different than what anyone else could see.
2) Zoom lens, pushing the expectation of public view if they are inside and you are looking through a window.
3) Climbing a tree in the public area to get a better view through the second story with a zoom lens? You might be able to argue it, but don't be surprised when a cop comes looking for you.
At least that is sort of the old standards. Tabloids and public figures are able to push this all to whole different realms than with private citizens/groups. This is a drone, part of the new paradigm. Being an airborne camera/vehicle that can see farther, it has a whole different standard of "public" than a person with a SLR by its very nature. So does someone in a glider, gyro-copter, helicopter, etc.
Expect a lawsuit eventually over whether drones in private hands should count more towards the person in the tree standards or filming from public air space in helicopter standards.
And iOS, Android, RIM based, WebOS and Microsoft tablet operating systems are all freaking identical? By stating he has an iPad he gives a standard of what he is using to judge by.
I could setup a tablet using the greatest current hardware out there, but doesn't run any apps more complicated than back in the MS-DOS days. Just because my apps would then start up instantly, and even all continuously run and start upon start-up doesn't mean my tablet is superior than that iPad.
I don't see the FCC as having any culpability here unless I missed something. God, I hate having to use that phrase so often.
From what I understand (groans at self), the FCC knew there were problems with this spectrum. They could have outright said no. They could have bowed to pressure and outright said yes. Instead they took a middle path to find out what would the impact be. It didn't look good, but might work. It might work, but better to find out now.
The FCC gave Lightsquared a chance to prove to the FCC that the FCC could have been wrong about the limitations imposed. Lightsquared failed. The burden of doubt fell to Lightsquared, but at least they were given a chance to prove it.
No politics. No massive posturing like the Keystone Pipeline.
The innocent have nothing to fear, yes, I know that.
If they fear commenting on these documents to such a degree, I have to ask why, All they have to do is never confirm the documents (or wait a few months, on a Friday, at midnight). So there is an easy route of censorship there.
Second, the whole climate change is bunk movement's claim is that politics is being played, and you can't trust the results saying it is happening. We have a memo here implying that politics might be being played, and research/motives to be questioned. Revealing this is grounds for being sued.
Third, lawsuits potentially coming? Even ignoring the chilling effect, do we really need to reach that stage of escalation int his subject where every time someone speaks for one side the other side begins suing?
They are all attacking the messengers and trying to cease the message. They have yet to put out anything to show these are false. Just silencing the people trying to talk about this.
I live in PA, but haven't watched it yet. We have local fracking wells up near our reservoir. W've had companies run their wells at high enough pressure to break the containment shells and keep running for three months till busted. Not one of those reservor wells, though. Oh, and truckers busted driving away from the site with the release valve on the tanks "accidentally" leaking.
I don't need to see Gasland. I can read the news. I see how the industry here is in full come in, drill and move on locust mode. The drilling could be safe if done with geology in mind and within standards. I just have no faith this will be done 100% of the time. Not that what I say or believe matters.
I can also look up our history. Pennsylvania was deforested in the lumber booms about a century ago, and only has its current forests thanks to FDR, the New Deal and the Civilian Conservation Corps. A large part of our economy is dependent on forest tourism. A third of all of our water is already contaminated from acid mine drainage from the coal booms.
Even if it were 100% no matter what, I'd still be leery based off of my state's track record.
It is a little known fact that Methuselah exploited the life span mechanics of the Real Life MMO. That and other bugs, hackers, gimmicks, etc. got so bad that God had to nearly completely revamp the game. The new mechanics were firmly put in place after The Flood patch.
Lightsquared's spectrum was meant for satellite, but wanted to use it as a primarily terrestrial communication spectrum. The GPS and Lightsquard's spectrums were setup assuming they were originating from satellites, and under those conditions shouldn't impede each other. GPS units, shoddy or not, were having trouble with bleed over from a signal far, far closer than ever intended to be.
Lightsquard isn't blameless. They wanted to do similar to what they were accusing the GPS manufacturers of doing.
Considering that those who disbelieve in climate change vocally brush up against the political party/circle that disbelieve evolution, science doesn't seem completely out of the ballpark. Being internal also means they may just being dropping the pretense.
Logically, I agree with you if I look at this by itself. But, I've been burned too many times being optimistic and hopeful. Hopefully you are right. I really don't want another bru-ha-ha over this. "Climate-gate" was embarrassing enough. We don't need an anti-climate-gate.
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Yes, cops would never pepper spray point blank at protesters who are already effectively subdued.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AdDLhPwpp4
Nazis wore clothes and ate food. You know what we must now outlaw.
The problem is the current poster child for genetically engineered foods is Monsanto. They are effectively the RIAA/MPAA of GE foods. You bought some seeds, and want to replant some seeds produced by those plants? Nope, that is copyright/patent infringement. You don't intend to copy their product, but seeds accidentally fall on your farm by natural dispersion (someone playing licensed music too loudly), they feel they can sue you for the leaked material.
The thing that has me pulling my hair out over this debate is this. It would be good to see scientists and experts argue back and forth, or even give a consensus. But as you say, they are drowned out. The two voices that get all the ink in newspapers either are the equivalent of the RIAA or people who want all music banned because RIAA is a bunch of crooks.
*PHB mode, miss joke*
Employee surveys show 8k/year salary is all workers want!
And stupid ones. Never forget people are stupid. Nobody is 100% on the ball at all times.
Even then, the terrorist(s) themselves might be on the ball, but everyone around them? Look, employees at my cousin's job are stupid enough to tell family members confidential information who then go out to the bar and loudly shout it out, especially when they were all told "You will be fired for leaking this, this is only being told to you all because we know some of you are disgruntled because we don't trust you. Don't prove us right. YOU WILL BE FIRED."
All it takes is one loose lip to the wrong person who thinks Twitter is private.
You think laws are bad enough in lagging behind technology? This would take it to a whole new level. I can see it now.
"By joining this territory free country you have rejected your citizenship in every physical country. The international laws do not recognize virtual countries. We are going to keep you in this cell for a while..."
So, now that we have confirmation that viruses have discovered and now use iron weapons expect this to be the latest Syfy movie.
I'll have you know I would regularly speed twice the speed limit, in front of the police station back when I drove an SUV and now when I had a Prius.
More than an Apple logo. Look at the photo. They called these things iPhones.
Sunshine can be good or bad (disinfectant and sunburn). Some good teachers might get burned, but look at the scenario from a few steps back.
A public institution decided to try a rating system, and the public wanted to see the results of the time and money put into it. Their time and money. Yes, it could be flawed. I'd look more kindly upon the teachers myself If the teachers provided an alternative other than run an add that reads at the very top "You can't rate good teachers, so don't even try evaluating us at all. You might accidentally harm a good teacher!"
You're right. This group of teachers don't want any thumb pressing down on them. Imagine any other group, Doctors, Congress people, police, anyone saying "There is no way to rate a x!".
Lawsuit bait.
Pass the laws, support someone file a lawsuit based on these laws when the TSA disobeys them, take to SCOTUS.
Oh sure, hold up the 1:4:9s as the standard of beauty. Anorexic slabs. Its bad enough that they go through purge cycles. Just look at what they did to Jupiter. Now if they maintained a healthy mass...
I'll play the Devil's Advocate card here.
Oracle may have been overzealous by a far degree. The process this is taking is likely very stupid. Many have been thrown out. However, that doesn't mean the last few aren't legally sound under the current system/process. Maybe they aren't. The most obvious offenders were withdrawn. It is now time to test the sturdier ones to the law process.
Who knows, maybe Oracle will loose and set a useful precedent for the Googles?
If I knew the commercial free version did any sort of spying I would not trust the company what-so-ever. There is a reason I am boycotting Sony.
Would that be enough, however? I fear, though, that this might be the new handwriting analysis craze. Still, each person has quirks to their writing to some degree. For one, I think my usual quirk stands out quite well, yeah.
I exaggerated it for the sake of making it obvious. I wonder how well this system at picking up things like this. Meaning, if I started talking like this:
Yo dawg, the meta-battle between anons and the man is heating up. Cool story bro, but we need fight this now. Our privacy is in danger of being shot down like a clay pigeon at a shoot out, yeah?
I agree, but I was providing a rebuttal to the comment that this drone wasn't trespassing. I was trying to keep my comment somewhat concise.
Trespassing needn't apply.
There is an expectation of privacy on your own property. Just where the line is drawn can be iffy at times. In my media law course this was called the tree principle.
1) You are allowed to take a photo of a person from the sidewalk (public property) if they are in their yard or even through the window with a normal lens. Nothing different than what anyone else could see.
2) Zoom lens, pushing the expectation of public view if they are inside and you are looking through a window.
3) Climbing a tree in the public area to get a better view through the second story with a zoom lens? You might be able to argue it, but don't be surprised when a cop comes looking for you.
At least that is sort of the old standards. Tabloids and public figures are able to push this all to whole different realms than with private citizens/groups. This is a drone, part of the new paradigm. Being an airborne camera/vehicle that can see farther, it has a whole different standard of "public" than a person with a SLR by its very nature. So does someone in a glider, gyro-copter, helicopter, etc.
Expect a lawsuit eventually over whether drones in private hands should count more towards the person in the tree standards or filming from public air space in helicopter standards.
Nah, not even once. They'll either claim prior art or rush in a new extension of 21 years to get around it as a stop gap.
And iOS, Android, RIM based, WebOS and Microsoft tablet operating systems are all freaking identical? By stating he has an iPad he gives a standard of what he is using to judge by.
I could setup a tablet using the greatest current hardware out there, but doesn't run any apps more complicated than back in the MS-DOS days. Just because my apps would then start up instantly, and even all continuously run and start upon start-up doesn't mean my tablet is superior than that iPad.
I don't see the FCC as having any culpability here unless I missed something. God, I hate having to use that phrase so often.
From what I understand (groans at self), the FCC knew there were problems with this spectrum. They could have outright said no. They could have bowed to pressure and outright said yes. Instead they took a middle path to find out what would the impact be. It didn't look good, but might work. It might work, but better to find out now.
The FCC gave Lightsquared a chance to prove to the FCC that the FCC could have been wrong about the limitations imposed. Lightsquared failed. The burden of doubt fell to Lightsquared, but at least they were given a chance to prove it.
No politics. No massive posturing like the Keystone Pipeline.
The innocent have nothing to fear, yes, I know that.
If they fear commenting on these documents to such a degree, I have to ask why, All they have to do is never confirm the documents (or wait a few months, on a Friday, at midnight). So there is an easy route of censorship there.
Second, the whole climate change is bunk movement's claim is that politics is being played, and you can't trust the results saying it is happening. We have a memo here implying that politics might be being played, and research/motives to be questioned. Revealing this is grounds for being sued.
Third, lawsuits potentially coming? Even ignoring the chilling effect, do we really need to reach that stage of escalation int his subject where every time someone speaks for one side the other side begins suing?
They are all attacking the messengers and trying to cease the message. They have yet to put out anything to show these are false. Just silencing the people trying to talk about this.
I live in PA, but haven't watched it yet. We have local fracking wells up near our reservoir. W've had companies run their wells at high enough pressure to break the containment shells and keep running for three months till busted. Not one of those reservor wells, though. Oh, and truckers busted driving away from the site with the release valve on the tanks "accidentally" leaking.
I don't need to see Gasland. I can read the news. I see how the industry here is in full come in, drill and move on locust mode. The drilling could be safe if done with geology in mind and within standards. I just have no faith this will be done 100% of the time. Not that what I say or believe matters.
I can also look up our history. Pennsylvania was deforested in the lumber booms about a century ago, and only has its current forests thanks to FDR, the New Deal and the Civilian Conservation Corps. A large part of our economy is dependent on forest tourism. A third of all of our water is already contaminated from acid mine drainage from the coal booms.
Even if it were 100% no matter what, I'd still be leery based off of my state's track record.
It is a little known fact that Methuselah exploited the life span mechanics of the Real Life MMO. That and other bugs, hackers, gimmicks, etc. got so bad that God had to nearly completely revamp the game. The new mechanics were firmly put in place after The Flood patch.
It is the opposite, kind of.
Lightsquared's spectrum was meant for satellite, but wanted to use it as a primarily terrestrial communication spectrum. The GPS and Lightsquard's spectrums were setup assuming they were originating from satellites, and under those conditions shouldn't impede each other. GPS units, shoddy or not, were having trouble with bleed over from a signal far, far closer than ever intended to be.
Lightsquard isn't blameless. They wanted to do similar to what they were accusing the GPS manufacturers of doing.
Considering that those who disbelieve in climate change vocally brush up against the political party/circle that disbelieve evolution, science doesn't seem completely out of the ballpark. Being internal also means they may just being dropping the pretense.
Logically, I agree with you if I look at this by itself. But, I've been burned too many times being optimistic and hopeful. Hopefully you are right. I really don't want another bru-ha-ha over this. "Climate-gate" was embarrassing enough. We don't need an anti-climate-gate.