So it's just a coincidence that 30 singlerule parties called themselves socialist....
How many totalitarian parties have called themselves capitalists ??? Yeah i thought so...
You can't have socialism without MAO. You can't raise huge taxes without strongarming. And if you believe the allmighty state will restrain itself to only 1-2 fields of activity.....
"-- but the other side of the coin is that many more have fallen deeper into poverty and debt, stuck in a cycle that is nearly impossible to break without help from others."
this is False.
Proof? My entire country since we abandoned multilateral socialism. Nobody is worse than before. QED.
Hi,
we are a US ally. Not going away any time soon. Nobody alienated except those who were from the start so. Please park a few batallions here, he have nice looking women also.
"Russians were ever only worse than Nazis when they were afflicted with the virus of Communism. "
perhaps true but we were talking about perception. 1917-1990 is a hell of a long time to NOT make the same impression as 1920-1945. The american ambassador was literally seeing the showtrials in Moskov and still wasn't getting it :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... :
"In view of the character of the accused, their long terms of service, their recognized distinction in their profession, their long-continued loyalty to the Communist cause, it is scarcely credible that their brother officers... should have acquiesced in their execution, unless they were convinced that these men had been guilty of some offense.[*] It is generally accepted by members of the Diplomatic Corps that the accused must have been guilty of an offense which in the Soviet Union would merit the death penalty. "
I am not american but it seems nothing new here... the US have never fully figured out that the Russian Empire is equal or worse than say Nazi Germany. Bush jr didn't get it, Obanana didn't get it, Hillary didn't get it (reset button lol) so pretty much nothing new here.....
and what would you have them do ? Get eviscerated by the MSM holy inquisition ? Perfect is the enemy of good. But of course there is one current of thought that dreams of utopias all day long, and it's not conservatism.
Oh yes because "Quora" says "Social democracy had made its peace with capitalism." i will surely believe it (and not my university professors). I'm not equating "social democracy" with socialism but that doesn't mean "social democracy" is cusher.
"I'm gonna guess you're American", and of course you would guess wrong (what a shock), I am eastern European, yet another reason to school you about socialism comrade. The problem is you don't see where your ideas lead, there are those who read Marx, and there are those who understand Marx.
My country currently has: socialized medicine, socialized education, socialized welfare system, socialized retirement. AND YET WE NO LONGER ARE Socialists, thank god the food lines are gone.
how many shootings before say 1960s ? when there was no guns/religion/capitalism/freedom.
Have you tried ONYX BOOX MAX 2 ?
So it's just a coincidence that 30 singlerule parties called themselves socialist....
How many totalitarian parties have called themselves capitalists ??? Yeah i thought so...
Exactly, leftists have a severe lack of investitional imagination.
Else they would have some bucks too.
"TL;DR; You're misrepresenting socialism, either intentionally or by mistake. Please stop it." :)
You stop misrepresenting it first
You can't have socialism without MAO. You can't raise huge taxes without strongarming. And if you believe the allmighty state will restrain itself to only 1-2 fields of activity.....
By "capitalists" you mean politicians. The free market doesn't guarantee you solid politicians son. That's up to the Volk to elect.
We know, and it's tragic.
"-- but the other side of the coin is that many more have fallen deeper into poverty and debt, stuck in a cycle that is nearly impossible to break without help from others."
this is False.
Proof? My entire country since we abandoned multilateral socialism. Nobody is worse than before. QED.
2. And you are a communist. (which are worse than the national-sotzialists, btw)
You might have just been "a die hard at 20", but not really a conservative.
true.
Either speech is free, or it's not.
The police/or laws themselves are not socialism !! (Unless the actual law is socialistic in nature)
The word you want is over-regulation.
No, that is 19th century european fetish :) The proletariat will prevail comrades!
The russians would be speaking german right about now if it wasn't for all the help sent from the americans. Bad luck on their part I guess.
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Hi,
we are a US ally. Not going away any time soon. Nobody alienated except those who were from the start so. Please park a few batallions here, he have nice looking women also.
K, thx, bye.
"Russians were ever only worse than Nazis when they were afflicted with the virus of Communism. "
... should have acquiesced in their execution, unless they were convinced that these men had been guilty of some offense.[*] It is generally accepted by members of the Diplomatic Corps that the accused must have been guilty of an offense which in the Soviet Union would merit the death penalty. "
perhaps true but we were talking about perception. 1917-1990 is a hell of a long time to NOT make the same impression as 1920-1945. The american ambassador was literally seeing the showtrials in Moskov and still wasn't getting it :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... :
"In view of the character of the accused, their long terms of service, their recognized distinction in their profession, their long-continued loyalty to the Communist cause, it is scarcely credible that their brother officers
seems not
I am not american but it seems nothing new here... the US have never fully figured out that the Russian Empire is equal or worse than say Nazi Germany. Bush jr didn't get it, Obanana didn't get it, Hillary didn't get it (reset button lol) so pretty much nothing new here.....
and what would you have them do ? Get eviscerated by the MSM holy inquisition ? Perfect is the enemy of good. But of course there is one current of thought that dreams of utopias all day long, and it's not conservatism.
Please read history, the word socialism meant communism, and still does. Read Marx please.
Oh yes because "Quora" says "Social democracy had made its peace with capitalism." i will surely believe it (and not my university professors). I'm not equating "social democracy" with socialism but that doesn't mean "social democracy" is cusher.
"I'm gonna guess you're American", and of course you would guess wrong (what a shock), I am eastern European, yet another reason to school you about socialism comrade. The problem is you don't see where your ideas lead, there are those who read Marx, and there are those who understand Marx.
Genocide is a good thing, because genocide means disneyland, because i said so.
THAT IS NOT SOCIALISM !!!!!!
My country currently has: socialized medicine, socialized education, socialized welfare system, socialized retirement. AND YET WE NO LONGER ARE Socialists, thank god the food lines are gone.