I get the impression you're responding to someone else's comment.
I'm not promoting socialism or a transition from capitalism towards communism , if anything I'm suggesting some countries' problems are precipitated by foreign political and economic manipulation.
The bulk of Venuzuela's problems are not due to a lack of democracy. They seem to follow from years of foreign sanctions, bribes, manipulation of elections, and the increase in corruption that facilitates.
A large part of the opposition was going to lose the last elections by a big margin so they boycotted them claiming they were non democratic.
Big media reports lean heavily towards the opposition's narrative, hinting it's top down socialism that's the cause of Venuzuela's economic problems.
Not sure it's much easier that way but I agree politicians are favoring private profits too much, and are lying about it or too naive to realize that's what they're doing.
"But the web certainly wouldn't be as widespread as it is today without all these "services" that keep people addicted. Such services wouldn't have self funded without advertising."
I agree addicting 'services' wouldn't be so pervasive without so much advertising driving investment, but if we're assuming a less profit driven internet then the web could very well have spread as much as it has today through other means like an increase in user friendliness, content relevance, efficiency, and the spread of public and non-profit infrastructure.
"Yeah, NK was straight communist, similar to the East/West Germany experiment."
Yes, especially around 1945, and more so since then under the continual pressure put on them by the US :
"After enjoying a period of peace for nearly two centuries, the Joseon dynasty faced foreign invasions and internal fractional strifes, beginning in 1592 until 1637. Henceforth, Joseon gradually became more and more isolationist and stagnant. By the mid 19th century, with the country unwilling to modernize, and encroachment of European powers, Joseon Korea was forced to sign unequal treaties with foreign powers. After the assassination of Empress Myeongseong in 1895, Donghak Rebellions of 1894-1895, and Gabo Reforms of 1894 to 1896, the Korean Empire (1897–1910) came into existence and a brief but rapid period of social reform and modernization occurred. However, in 1905, the Korean Empire signed a protectorate treaty and in 1910 Japan annexed the Korean Empire.
"Korean resistance was manifested in the widespread nonviolent March 1st Movement of 1919. Thereafter the resistance movements, coordinated by the Provisional Government of the Republic of Korea in exile, were largely active in neighboring Manchuria, China, and Siberia. Figures from these exile organizations would become important in post-WWII Korea.
"After the end of WWII in 1945, the Allies divided the country into a northern area, protected by the Soviets, and a southern area protected primarily by the United States. In 1948, when the powers failed to agree on the formation of a single government, this partition became the modern states of North and South Korea."
I said "In Canada I think a lot more people have more freedom to choose better educational opportunities and medical services" You said "Is that why Florida is a medical tourism destination for Canadians ?"
No, I'm referring to the clearly higher percentage of individuals living in Canada who can access most medical services.
You said "Education ? Hmmm are you saying you have better universities than the U.S. ? because the logical implication if not, is that you have a better chance of picking from worse opportunities.
No, I'm saying that more people in Canada have access to good educational opportunities after high school.
I said "It depends on perspective, look at disparity levels, the US is way ahead when it comes to higher economic classes leaching on poorer economic classes. You said "Oh you mean the way your privileged class wrecked Ontario ?
Yes. I also think in the US the 'privileged' 'leach off their fellow citizens' to a high degree, and considering the higher disparity in the US I'm suggesting the leaching (from higher levels) is more intense too.
"Try again. Need an MRI in Canada ? get ready to wait 6 months."
Depends what its for. I've seen wait times from the same day to 6 months. But like in the US you can also have one without waiting for anything if they can pay for it.
"Need the services of an Oncologist ? You are likely a little too expensive to save."
"Freedom of speech is a nearly non existent right in all the named countries, freedom of association as bad as it has gotten here is still better, the right to defend yourself ? "
In Canada I think a lot more people have more freedom to choose better educational opportunities and better medical services, and overall more freedom of choice and accessibility to the services and the means needed for advancement.
"We are kind of low on the freedom to leach off your fellow citizens though"
That depends on perspective, look at disparity levels, the US is way ahead when it comes to higher economic classes leaching on poorer economic classes.
"Who would have thunk punishing success and rewarding failure doesn't work?"
Socialism doesn't imply that.
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Capitalism: an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
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But who's more likely to remind you that the elderly aren't looking to machines for companionship and that some find the idea downright insulting.
I get the impression you're responding to someone else's comment.
I'm not promoting socialism or a transition from capitalism towards communism , if anything I'm suggesting some countries' problems are precipitated by foreign political and economic manipulation.
"People are fucking stupid creatures."
The bulk of Venuzuela's problems are not due to a lack of democracy. They seem to follow from years of foreign sanctions, bribes, manipulation of elections, and the increase in corruption that facilitates.
A large part of the opposition was going to lose the last elections by a big margin so they boycotted them claiming they were non democratic.
Big media reports lean heavily towards the opposition's narrative, hinting it's top down socialism that's the cause of Venuzuela's economic problems.
"It's much easier that way sadly."
Not sure it's much easier that way but I agree politicians are favoring private profits too much, and are lying about it or too naive to realize that's what they're doing.
Yes, so you can pay a lot less for internet access, and because the pipes are a natural fit for a publicly owned corporation.
"But the web certainly wouldn't be as widespread as it is today without all these "services" that keep people addicted. Such services wouldn't have self funded without advertising."
I agree addicting 'services' wouldn't be so pervasive without so much advertising driving investment, but if we're assuming a less profit driven internet then the web could very well have spread as much as it has today through other means like an increase in user friendliness, content relevance, efficiency, and the spread of public and non-profit infrastructure.
Not sure I'm following you. Facebook can still sell ad space in various ways even if some of them are less targeted.
"But the social media company has wages to cover?"
Considering their profit margin they could still easily do that.
"Yeah, NK was straight communist, similar to the East/West Germany experiment."
Yes, especially around 1945, and more so since then under the continual pressure put on them by the US :
"After enjoying a period of peace for nearly two centuries, the Joseon dynasty faced foreign invasions and internal fractional strifes, beginning in 1592 until 1637. Henceforth, Joseon gradually became more and more isolationist and stagnant. By the mid 19th century, with the country unwilling to modernize, and encroachment of European powers, Joseon Korea was forced to sign unequal treaties with foreign powers. After the assassination of Empress Myeongseong in 1895, Donghak Rebellions of 1894-1895, and Gabo Reforms of 1894 to 1896, the Korean Empire (1897–1910) came into existence and a brief but rapid period of social reform and modernization occurred. However, in 1905, the Korean Empire signed a protectorate treaty and in 1910 Japan annexed the Korean Empire.
"Korean resistance was manifested in the widespread nonviolent March 1st Movement of 1919. Thereafter the resistance movements, coordinated by the Provisional Government of the Republic of Korea in exile, were largely active in neighboring Manchuria, China, and Siberia. Figures from these exile organizations would become important in post-WWII Korea.
"After the end of WWII in 1945, the Allies divided the country into a northern area, protected by the Soviets, and a southern area protected primarily by the United States. In 1948, when the powers failed to agree on the formation of a single government, this partition became the modern states of North and South Korea."
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"Ads from where if the ad companies get held back with data privacy?"
Facebook will just have to charge less to place an ad.
"How is "data privacy" going to allow an ad company to sell ads? "
"Data privacy" or not, ad companies will always be selling all the ads they want.
"It would certainly be an amazing experiment to split a country in two, make one half capitalist and the other half socialist"
Except nothing at all happened like that with north Corea.
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Scientists discover double meaning in genetic code
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"and what would you have them do ? "
Stop making so much stuff up and represent the people a little more, and themselves and big business a lot less, same as for the democrats.
Thanks. That explains why this eye dropper I first bought for around 3$ is now going for 35.71$
https://www.amazon.ca/Apotheca...
I said "In Canada I think a lot more people have more freedom to choose better educational opportunities and medical services"
You said "Is that why Florida is a medical tourism destination for Canadians ?"
No, I'm referring to the clearly higher percentage of individuals living in Canada who can access most medical services.
You said "Education ? Hmmm are you saying you have better universities than the U.S. ? because the logical implication if not, is that you have a better chance of picking from worse opportunities.
No, I'm saying that more people in Canada have access to good educational opportunities after high school.
I said "It depends on perspective, look at disparity levels, the US is way ahead when it comes to higher economic classes leaching on poorer economic classes.
You said "Oh you mean the way your privileged class wrecked Ontario ?
Yes. I also think in the US the 'privileged' 'leach off their fellow citizens' to a high degree, and considering the higher disparity in the US I'm suggesting the leaching (from higher levels) is more intense too.
I agree.
I think I was reacting to another comment and posted here be mistake.
"Try again. Need an MRI in Canada ? get ready to wait 6 months."
Depends what its for. I've seen wait times from the same day to 6 months. But like in the US you can also have one without waiting for anything if they can pay for it.
"Need the services of an Oncologist ? You are likely a little too expensive to save."
What do you mean?
Canada for me.
"Freedom of speech is a nearly non existent right in all the named countries, freedom of association as bad as it has gotten here is still better, the right to defend yourself ? "
In Canada I think a lot more people have more freedom to choose better educational opportunities and better medical services, and overall more freedom of choice and accessibility to the services and the means needed for advancement.
"We are kind of low on the freedom to leach off your fellow citizens though"
That depends on perspective, look at disparity levels, the US is way ahead when it comes to higher economic classes leaching on poorer economic classes.
"I will admit that pure capitalism and socialism don't work. A blend of them seems to work the best, though."
Thanks for opening the window and letting some fresh air into the conversation.
"Have you looked at Ontario finances? We're on the verge of going broke to the same extent as Greece."
Greece has a debt to GDP ration around 180%, and Ontario's is around 40% ?
"But watch Venezuela for examples of your future."
No one wants to be the target of US attacks, military or economic?
"Who would have thunk punishing success and rewarding failure doesn't work?"
Socialism doesn't imply that.
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Capitalism: an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
"they just have more government services than the U.S. and less freedoms."
Not sure we have "more" services, maybe better or more efficient ones is more accurate.
And on freedoms I'd maybe agree, because it's possible we have less of a freedom to abuse other citizens.
"Why? Because of people using the facade of a concept to advance their own interests?"
It's not because you fight capitalism's abuses that you become a socialist.