: "You know, we saved you about $100,000 in software : costs, why don't you donate 10% of that cost to
: Debian and/or Apache."
: "Um, no."
That's about the time when I say "fuck you" and quit. You can get a better job with fewer headaches
elsewhere, even in the midst of an economic depression.
now logically, i would expect a robust Linux port
to substantially outperform OSX, simply because OSX
is based on the Mach microkernel. OSX suffers from
the same disease that NT does, because it was born
(as NeXTStep) at about the same time, when micro-
kernels were all the rage.
Can anyone comment on the comparison between 2.4.16
and OSX 10.1 on the same hardware? How do threads
scale? How does the VM scale? What does it feel
like when the load average hits 10 or 15?
I reverted my test boxes to win2k because
1) XP requires too much CPU and memory.
2) XP devices drivers don't work for my wireless cards.
3) I did not have patience to get Zone Alarm over the hurdles.
Win2k handles desktop very well for admins and
managers. The techs tend to run RedHat or Mandrake or Solaris.
Of course, none of our servers run any variety of Windows, nor ever will. I'd rather spend time on
bizdev than in court with ex-customers!
A slight modification would fix that problem.
Hash short segments of the mail. Use higher
resolution at the beginning and at the end.
Anything within a certain hamming distance
matches.
I can barely deal with buying devices that have
useless software on them -- there's no way I'm
shelling out cash for a device that's supposed to
be optimized for size that has useless MECHANICAL
parts bulking it out. That's why the HipTop looks
so attractive, it's all function, no fluff. It
might even beat out the Treo, if I don't get too
impatient.
.
Not only are GSM phones available in most major
markets, but CDMA phones exist that support SMS.
I wonder if any of the vulnerable Nokia's are
CDMA phones.
Usama bin Laden was the defense minister of
Afghanistan on September 11th. If Congress
believed that he directed the attacks of that
date, Congress should have passed a resolution
recognizing a state of war between Afghanistan
and the U.S., but in fact Congress declined to
do so. Either Congress is incompetent, or no
sufficient evidence exists to demonstrate that
Usama bin Laden directed those attacks.
Sure you can compare them, because they can both
be used to solve the same problems. You can make
a direct comparison of the learning curve, the
lines of build code, and the maintainability of
the results. I've never done such a benchmark,
but after using both tools (on different projects)
I confident is saying that Ant wins by about 10^9
aphid lengths, on every one of those points.
Ant is better at doing what it wasn't designed
for than autoconf is in fulfilling its own
specialty.
This reminds me of the questions I used
to ask my mother after school, in the 5th
grade, such as "Would you rather be drowned or
frozen to death?" Both are non-solutions to
non-problems.
You get naseuous from m4? Wait until you
have to debug it. You'll get hives.
Like ACE, the auto tools are a big web of intrigue.
If you are in for an inch, you're in for a mile.
That means you have to suck in the whole GNU
toolchain. And that means your code isn't portable
any more.
I'm no Java zealot, but even Ant is better than
this baroque multilayed spaghetti tangle of
undebuggable macros. Even if you *love* m4 and sed,
you should be responsible to your peers, have pity
on the fool who has to maintain your shoddy work,
and write your build tools in something that can
at least be rationally *debugged*.
> autoconf is a tool, and it's quite possible to
> use it poorly.
Some tools are conducive to good use, and
elevate the skills of the user. Other tools
are conducive to poor use, and dilute the skills
of the user. I've *never* caught a readable,
maintainable autoconf in the wild.
So now you've rendered your own code just as
unreadable and unmaintainable as the autoconf
scripts themselves.
Autoconf was a good idea that was kludged and
grown far beyond the limits of it's kludgy design.
As a result, it sucks.
You can't run autoconf on anything but a
GNU system. You can write portable build code
for native Win32 and GNU, no problem.
Introduce autoconf, and *wham*, you've just
bought into a platform. Your code is no longer
open.
Autoconf is embrace-and-extend, FSF-style.
Therefore, it sucks.
You're not alone in this view. Autoconf's notion
of portability is pretty much limited to posix-like
systems. If you've written a win32/*nix makefile
you've already solved the problems that autoconf
can solve for you, and at a tiny fraction of the
cost of polluting your valuable memory realestate
with m4 macros. (Gad, what a kludge!) Save your
braincase for something that solves a *real*
problem, not some imaginary anal-omphalotic
obsession.
Writing portable code (including
build code) is easy using GNU Make alone.
The only reason to use autoconf is to
conform to the dictatorial vision of a
water buffalo who would be king.
The real action right now is in the VM architecture.
CLI has leapfrogged JVM. Will they respond with a
JVM that supports continuations and memory-mapped
registers? Or will the open-source world end-run
them all? Is Parrot even in the game? Will silicon
JVM cells ever reach a mass-market CPU?
It really is too big, and the reason is the
inclusion of the USELESS SD "secure media" slot.
Sorry, any palm device with useless mechanical parts
is too big.
:Sacarificing 1/24 of a cancerous species to save:1/20 of a rare species, its really common sense.:BTW a cancerous species is one that's shown not to:be in tune with its enviroment by multiplying out:of control to the point it destroying the balanced:eco-system of its host.
That's an amusing calculus. But destroying 1/24 of
humanity would be far more disruptive to the homeostasis of the earth's ecosystem than destroying
the entire species of Sumatran tigers (which, unlike
the Tamil Tigers, are not capitalized).
: All this does is make more people mad enough at
: America that they are willing to die for revenge.
Hell, I'm a midwestern Christian white boy, and
*I*'m mad enough at American to be willing to die
for revenge, if I didn't have dependent children.
In about 8 years that will, however, change.
If I flee the police state in the meantime, I
might be more concerned about my new home country,
however.
.
:they are preventing their OWN people from accessing : the internet. If that is what the government
: wants, then there really isn't anything terribly
: wrong legally.
You assume that anything the government does is
legal. You assume that human beings have no rights.
You ass, u.
Slashdot Mirror
: "You know, we saved you about $100,000 in software : costs, why don't you donate 10% of that cost to
: Debian and/or Apache."
: "Um, no."
That's about the time when I say "fuck you" and quit. You can get a better job with fewer headaches
elsewhere, even in the midst of an economic depression.
The pain and cost of dealing with the incessant
flow of viruses and spam when using microsoft's
office products is intolerable.
StarOffice 6.0 is at least as usable as MSOffice 2000, comes free of charge, and is immune to the
plethora of vulnerabilities found in MSOffice.
Really, the simple truth is that it is easier and
cheaper to use non-Microsoft products at every
turn.
now logically, i would expect a robust Linux port
to substantially outperform OSX, simply because OSX
is based on the Mach microkernel. OSX suffers from
the same disease that NT does, because it was born
(as NeXTStep) at about the same time, when micro-
kernels were all the rage.
Can anyone comment on the comparison between 2.4.16
and OSX 10.1 on the same hardware? How do threads
scale? How does the VM scale? What does it feel
like when the load average hits 10 or 15?
I reverted my test boxes to win2k because
1) XP requires too much CPU and memory.
2) XP devices drivers don't work for my wireless cards.
3) I did not have patience to get Zone Alarm over the hurdles.
Win2k handles desktop very well for admins and
managers. The techs tend to run RedHat or Mandrake or Solaris.
Of course, none of our servers run any variety of Windows, nor ever will. I'd rather spend time on
bizdev than in court with ex-customers!
> Surely, the message in all these posts is that
> PayPal is neither Trustworthy nor Convenient!
Just as "Fatherland Security" does nothing to
enhance freedom OR security.
Paypal exists to take your money.
The Department of Justice exists to imprison
and kill people.
I'll go with Paypal anytime.
I would point out that CNN has CIA beaurocrats providing
editorial "advice".
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/cnn.htm
A slight modification would fix that problem.
Hash short segments of the mail. Use higher
resolution at the beginning and at the end.
Anything within a certain hamming distance
matches.
I can barely deal with buying devices that have
useless software on them -- there's no way I'm
shelling out cash for a device that's supposed to
be optimized for size that has useless MECHANICAL
parts bulking it out. That's why the HipTop looks
so attractive, it's all function, no fluff. It
might even beat out the Treo, if I don't get too
impatient.
.
Not only are GSM phones available in most major
markets, but CDMA phones exist that support SMS.
I wonder if any of the vulnerable Nokia's are
CDMA phones.
Usama bin Laden was the defense minister of
Afghanistan on September 11th. If Congress
believed that he directed the attacks of that
date, Congress should have passed a resolution
recognizing a state of war between Afghanistan
and the U.S., but in fact Congress declined to
do so. Either Congress is incompetent, or no
sufficient evidence exists to demonstrate that
Usama bin Laden directed those attacks.
Sure you can compare them, because they can both
be used to solve the same problems. You can make
a direct comparison of the learning curve, the
lines of build code, and the maintainability of
the results. I've never done such a benchmark,
but after using both tools (on different projects)
I confident is saying that Ant wins by about 10^9
aphid lengths, on every one of those points.
Ant is better at doing what it wasn't designed
for than autoconf is in fulfilling its own
specialty.
> autoconf is better than imake, IMHO
This reminds me of the questions I used
to ask my mother after school, in the 5th
grade, such as "Would you rather be drowned or
frozen to death?" Both are non-solutions to
non-problems.
You get naseuous from m4? Wait until you
have to debug it. You'll get hives.
Like ACE, the auto tools are a big web of intrigue.
If you are in for an inch, you're in for a mile.
That means you have to suck in the whole GNU
toolchain. And that means your code isn't portable
any more.
I'm no Java zealot, but even Ant is better than
this baroque multilayed spaghetti tangle of
undebuggable macros. Even if you *love* m4 and sed,
you should be responsible to your peers, have pity
on the fool who has to maintain your shoddy work,
and write your build tools in something that can
at least be rationally *debugged*.
For the love of God, Montressor!.
.
> autoconf is a tool, and it's quite possible to
> use it poorly.
Some tools are conducive to good use, and
elevate the skills of the user. Other tools
are conducive to poor use, and dilute the skills
of the user. I've *never* caught a readable,
maintainable autoconf in the wild.
So now you've rendered your own code just as
unreadable and unmaintainable as the autoconf
scripts themselves.
Autoconf was a good idea that was kludged and
grown far beyond the limits of it's kludgy design.
As a result, it sucks.
You can't run autoconf on anything but a
GNU system. You can write portable build code
for native Win32 and GNU, no problem.
Introduce autoconf, and *wham*, you've just
bought into a platform. Your code is no longer
open.
Autoconf is embrace-and-extend, FSF-style.
Therefore, it sucks.
You're not alone in this view. Autoconf's notion
of portability is pretty much limited to posix-like
systems. If you've written a win32/*nix makefile
you've already solved the problems that autoconf
can solve for you, and at a tiny fraction of the
cost of polluting your valuable memory realestate
with m4 macros. (Gad, what a kludge!) Save your
braincase for something that solves a *real*
problem, not some imaginary anal-omphalotic
obsession.
Writing portable code (including
build code) is easy using GNU Make alone.
The only reason to use autoconf is to
conform to the dictatorial vision of a
water buffalo who would be king.
The real action right now is in the VM architecture.
CLI has leapfrogged JVM. Will they respond with a
JVM that supports continuations and memory-mapped
registers? Or will the open-source world end-run
them all? Is Parrot even in the game? Will silicon
JVM cells ever reach a mass-market CPU?
Screw syntax.
> eqivalent
I think you misspelled "tantamount"
It really is too big, and the reason is the
inclusion of the USELESS SD "secure media" slot.
Sorry, any palm device with useless mechanical parts
is too big.
:Sacarificing 1/24 of a cancerous species to save :1/20 of a rare species, its really common sense. :BTW a cancerous species is one that's shown not to :be in tune with its enviroment by multiplying out :of control to the point it destroying the balanced :eco-system of its host.
That's an amusing calculus. But destroying 1/24 of
humanity would be far more disruptive to the homeostasis of the earth's ecosystem than destroying
the entire species of Sumatran tigers (which, unlike
the Tamil Tigers, are not capitalized).
.
Surely you can distinguish between defense and
attack. It's not difficult in most circumstances
to make the distinction.
Okay, I may be deviant here, but I don't think
swearing at a troll in an effort to get a message
through his stone head is in itself a troll.
: All this does is make more people mad enough at
: America that they are willing to die for revenge.
Hell, I'm a midwestern Christian white boy, and
*I*'m mad enough at American to be willing to die
for revenge, if I didn't have dependent children.
In about 8 years that will, however, change.
If I flee the police state in the meantime, I
might be more concerned about my new home country,
however.
.
:they are preventing their OWN people from accessing : the internet. If that is what the government
: wants, then there really isn't anything terribly
: wrong legally.
You assume that anything the government does is
legal. You assume that human beings have no rights.
You ass, u.
: What now, tanks in the streets?
Yes, for example at the Miami Airport.
Welcome to the New World Order.
.