I think everything goes in cycles. During the 30's and 40's the majority of Americans were supporters of European socialism. During the 60's and early 70's there was a resurgence of that. I'm sure we're seeing the same thing now, but eventually the tide will turn again, unfortunately.
I believe the US really should move towards more European-style socialism, I just don't think it's unprecedented here, or that if it happens it will be permanent. The people who shriek "communism" are a problem, but the best way to get rid of them is to slowly phase in a socialist yet fiscally prudent system, and let them die out naturally.
It seems even the internationalist, socially leftist Obama supporters hold close to their hearts the proud American tradition of fuck all y'all. (Yeah, yeah, -1 Troll)
Every country places its own interests above the interests of others. Including yours. The only difference is the US is expected not to.
As bad as you think we are, let me ask this; do you think if China or Russia became the most powerful country in the world, they would treat the rest of the world kindly?
The attitude I've seen in the responses is exactly what makes the job harder for those of us in the US who are trying to advocate international peace and cooperation, because the hegemony-supporters in the US will seize upon anti-US sentiment and arrogance like this and use it to elect another Bush.
I'm sure it wasn't your intention, but you came across as unbelievably condescending in your post. The United States is one of the oldest and most stable democracies in the world, we've had to bail Europe out twice both militarily and financially in the last century, and we don't need your guidance. Considering European countries lurch from crisis to crisis, the same as us, I don't think you've proved your point that socialism is always good--and I'm in favor of a lot of socialist programs.
Your comments regarding crime are also strange, considering the crime rate in the United States is lower than that in Europe.
I think the fundamental problem is Europeans don't really understand America. I'm sure at a fundamental level we don't understand Europe either, but at least we don't assume that we do, which I think is your mistake.
Honest question: Why is that so bad? I've heard people go on and on ad nauseam about how she's supposedly some horrible right-wing nutjob, but what exactly makes her so terrible or rather, what makes her worse that the others?
Even putting aside the religious fundamentalism, she is very similar to Bush in that she seems to believe one doesn't have to think about issues, but rather can just make gut decisions and govern from some sort of pseudofolksy wisdom. Bush thought, and still thinks, he's a natural leader who always makes the right decisions just because it's in his nature. I got that feeling from Palin's actions as well. I mean, at the beginning of the campaign she stated that she had never really thought about the Iraq war enough to come up with a viewpoint on it. That's frightening behavior from an adult American, let alone a candidate for a major office.
You've made the first step. Don't fuck this up. You're still on notice.
As an internationalist, socially leftist Obama supporter who believes it is vital to repair our reputation overseas,and is beyond thrilled that Obama won, let me just say: Back off. We are still the most powerful country in the world, and we chose Obama because he was the best choice for us, not for you. We are not coming to you hat in hand asking for your forgiveness, and you have no ability to put us on "notice."
He's probably the most moral man we've had in the White House since Jimmy Carter, but unlike Carter he also is an extremely skilled political operator who can get things done. I think he's going to do a fantastic job.
Too bad for those of us who think the government is getting dangerously big.
But great for those of us who think a strong Federal government can be a good thing, or realize that before federal social programs began under FDR the country lurched from depression to depression, with the vast majority of Americans living in poverty.
Fortunately there's more of us than there are of you, and we live in a democracy.
Their conclusions are always "violent video game playing and real-life violence look linked"
Not true at all, there have been several studies posted as slashdot stories saying the opposite, at which point everyone here suddenly proclaims that these studies actually do have some worth, because it supports their viewpoint.
Let the National Guard handle those... if they happen. *
Too bad they're all in Iraq.
* Please let no riots happen!
There shouldn't be riots if Obama wins, or if McCain wins fairly. If there's another 2000 situation and McCain wins a crooked election, then there probably SHOULD be riots. When you take away the fundamental right to vote then there aren't that many other alternatives.
As one commentator noted, when it comes to a choice between almost identical software (e.g. Microsoft Office and OpenOffice), price is the determining factor.
And that's why more people use OpenOffice than Microsoft Office...oh wait
Know my favorite part of Anti-Piracy Days? The parades. I mean, the parties are nice, and seeing the kids put out the Anti-Piracy decorations, but the parades are what are really great.
The use of surveillance cameras in the UK dwarfs any similar thing we have in the US. And while both countries have become horrible in this regard, I believe the US has stronger judicial tools to counteract the executive's depredations.
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I think everything goes in cycles. During the 30's and 40's the majority of Americans were supporters of European socialism. During the 60's and early 70's there was a resurgence of that. I'm sure we're seeing the same thing now, but eventually the tide will turn again, unfortunately.
I believe the US really should move towards more European-style socialism, I just don't think it's unprecedented here, or that if it happens it will be permanent. The people who shriek "communism" are a problem, but the best way to get rid of them is to slowly phase in a socialist yet fiscally prudent system, and let them die out naturally.
You were very -very- close to being actively censored from the global market.
No, we weren't. Our markets are too interconnected with the rest of the world, there is no way we could have been censored from the global market.
http://www.crimereduction.homeoffice.gov.uk/statistics/statistics35.htm And Europe is Europe. If you're going to proclaim the superiority of Europe to the US then you shouldn't exclude those less-developed European countries to make your side look better.
It seems even the internationalist, socially leftist Obama supporters hold close to their hearts the proud American tradition of fuck all y'all. (Yeah, yeah, -1 Troll)
Every country places its own interests above the interests of others. Including yours. The only difference is the US is expected not to.
As bad as you think we are, let me ask this; do you think if China or Russia became the most powerful country in the world, they would treat the rest of the world kindly?
The attitude I've seen in the responses is exactly what makes the job harder for those of us in the US who are trying to advocate international peace and cooperation, because the hegemony-supporters in the US will seize upon anti-US sentiment and arrogance like this and use it to elect another Bush.
Wow. Way to get the ball rolling. I'm sure your comment assuages all kinds of stereotypes about American arrogance.
And the "you are on notice" comment I was responding to didn't reinforce the arrogance of its presumably European poster?
"You are on notice" implies a relationship that doesn't exist.
I'm sure it wasn't your intention, but you came across as unbelievably condescending in your post. The United States is one of the oldest and most stable democracies in the world, we've had to bail Europe out twice both militarily and financially in the last century, and we don't need your guidance. Considering European countries lurch from crisis to crisis, the same as us, I don't think you've proved your point that socialism is always good--and I'm in favor of a lot of socialist programs.
Your comments regarding crime are also strange, considering the crime rate in the United States is lower than that in Europe.
I think the fundamental problem is Europeans don't really understand America. I'm sure at a fundamental level we don't understand Europe either, but at least we don't assume that we do, which I think is your mistake.
Weird, most people I talk to have a lot of very good reasons as to why they voted for Obama. I have good reasons myself.
I think maybe you're not talking to the right people.
Honest question: Why is that so bad? I've heard people go on and on ad nauseam about how she's supposedly some horrible right-wing nutjob, but what exactly makes her so terrible or rather, what makes her worse that the others?
Even putting aside the religious fundamentalism, she is very similar to Bush in that she seems to believe one doesn't have to think about issues, but rather can just make gut decisions and govern from some sort of pseudofolksy wisdom. Bush thought, and still thinks, he's a natural leader who always makes the right decisions just because it's in his nature. I got that feeling from Palin's actions as well. I mean, at the beginning of the campaign she stated that she had never really thought about the Iraq war enough to come up with a viewpoint on it. That's frightening behavior from an adult American, let alone a candidate for a major office.
You've made the first step. Don't fuck this up. You're still on notice.
As an internationalist, socially leftist Obama supporter who believes it is vital to repair our reputation overseas,and is beyond thrilled that Obama won, let me just say: Back off. We are still the most powerful country in the world, and we chose Obama because he was the best choice for us, not for you. We are not coming to you hat in hand asking for your forgiveness, and you have no ability to put us on "notice."
Yes, he is.
He's probably the most moral man we've had in the White House since Jimmy Carter, but unlike Carter he also is an extremely skilled political operator who can get things done. I think he's going to do a fantastic job.
Too bad for those of us who think the government is getting dangerously big.
But great for those of us who think a strong Federal government can be a good thing, or realize that before federal social programs began under FDR the country lurched from depression to depression, with the vast majority of Americans living in poverty.
Fortunately there's more of us than there are of you, and we live in a democracy.
They know that he'll let them get away with everything they've done. He doesn't want to fight them, he wants to "talk to them".
That's a lie. Always dangerous when people start believing their own propaganda, you might want to be careful.
Hasn't the US presidential election been a story? You are all aware that we have a new president-elect, right?
Their conclusions are always "violent video game playing and real-life violence look linked"
Not true at all, there have been several studies posted as slashdot stories saying the opposite, at which point everyone here suddenly proclaims that these studies actually do have some worth, because it supports their viewpoint.
Yes, because rioting and political upheaval has worked wonders for the French
Ask Louis XIV.
Let the National Guard handle those... if they happen. *
Too bad they're all in Iraq.
* Please let no riots happen!
There shouldn't be riots if Obama wins, or if McCain wins fairly. If there's another 2000 situation and McCain wins a crooked election, then there probably SHOULD be riots. When you take away the fundamental right to vote then there aren't that many other alternatives.
Who has time, I get to spend 12 hours outside in the Florida sun being a poll watcher.
Did you show your wife this comment?
As one commentator noted, when it comes to a choice between almost identical software (e.g. Microsoft Office and OpenOffice), price is the determining factor.
And that's why more people use OpenOffice than Microsoft Office...oh wait
Also, it's funny that if they'd paid the subcontractor and kept the difference, they'd probably still be running the scam.
I guess that would too close to "work."
2) Subcontract the job out.
It's actually a very common business model, in this case it's improper because of all the computer hacking and lying.
Actually in Federal criminal cases the jury has to be unanimous, but individual states can allow conviction for less than unanimous if they want.
So much wasted time. Best MUDs I found were the highly modified diku/circles, like ThunderdomeII and MUME.
Know my favorite part of Anti-Piracy Days? The parades. I mean, the parties are nice, and seeing the kids put out the Anti-Piracy decorations, but the parades are what are really great.
The use of surveillance cameras in the UK dwarfs any similar thing we have in the US. And while both countries have become horrible in this regard, I believe the US has stronger judicial tools to counteract the executive's depredations.