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If IBM were sincere in their claims of supporting (not in the "call us and we'll help you for a fee" support, but an actual contributing member of the community) Open Source Software, they'd do more than offer GNU/Linux on a smattering of systems and port to their architectures that are in need of a market boost. But most people say "Oh! IBM released source code for filesystem! Their behind us all the way! Yay, Big Blue!" when what we should be doing is showing outrage that they expect us to happily lap up their table scraps like a filesystem that's already nearing its End of Life as a marketable product. And it's really NOT needed, since we already have ReiserFS, JFS, and ext3 on the horizon.
I mean, come on. If IBM were REALLY behind the Open Source Movement, they'd open up the source to USEFUL things like OS/2 Warp 4 (if their hands aren't tied by M$'s involvement with earlier OS/2 versions) and, IMHO, the nicest of all office suites, SmartSuite. And then THEY'D benefit as much as the community. Of course, now it's a bit late to open up SmartSuite since Sun is EOLing Star Office and giving it to the community. It's now destined to be modularized and evolve into Gnome Office.
What has this to do with BSD not booting on their notebooks? Not a damned thing. But it's like this: If you're smart enough to learn to install and use any Open Source OS, and it doesn't like your hardware then don't blame it on the hardware if the hardware works with other OSes. The OS is Open Source. Ask the hardware manufacturer for specs and details and try to fix it. If they aren't forthcoming with specs and helpful docs, then make yourself heard with the only thing companies understand -- your money. Buy elsewhere. Does this mean I'm anti-IBM? Absolutely not. They make fine hardware and some good software. But if they don't ENABLE the community to fix what is definitely an OS's shortcoming by providing them with the relevant info necessary to work around the problem, then we shouldn't be giving them our money.
Quicktime opening a.png that should load in any recent browser without using ANY plugin??? That's fucked up, indeed. As for the link in my.sig, I just got sick of fuckwits telling me my.sig was "wrong." Of course, the obvious solution to your problem is to download a.png to a local file, then SHIFT+RIGHT CLICK, choose "Open With," then make sure the "Always" check box is checked, then select your browser as the default viewer for.png files. Can't remember what the "Always" button said exactly since I no longer have a Win box in the house, although I could check at work. But I'm sure you can find what I'm referring to with no difficulty.:)
I hate replying to a troll like you, but my.sig is taken verbatim from the BSD text games package that come with my Slackware Linux. Perhaps you should take your petty little nit-picking up with the maintainers of the BSD fortune program. Fucking shithead.
Perhaps you should discuss your problem with my.sig with Pat V. and the slackware guys... My.sig comes with the "fortune" program in the BSD text games packages. I'll change my.sig when they change the fortune program.
I wish people would keep the discussion relevant to the topic rather than continuously "correcting" my.sig.
I'm president of a small LUG, myself. Our meetings have generally been small social occasions to get together, drink beer and eat, and just have open-floor discussions. Now that we're ready to start growing, I've wondered about ideas to help draw people to meetings, and guest speakers were one idea under consideration. That and LAN parties.;)
Perhaps getting people who use linux locally, like ISP admins, and local coders or programmers... and perhaps even the occasional opposing point of view, like someone from a Microshaft Certified Solution provider to get their opinion on things like samba, and Win/Unix integration...
While I have about us much use for Paul Allen (and anyone else associated with Micros~1) as tits on a boar hog, I use Charter's cable modem service both at home and at my office. At the office I'm using IP Masq to provide internet to all 20 workstation systems, and at home I'm using 3 IP's with one cable modem. On the little home LAN is one box doing IP Masq for 4 other boxen, and 2 other boxen getting their own IP's, one of which is my Quake3 server. And I know some their tech guys here in my area who use and love Linux and FreeBSD. Sales people may be clueless... But the people who really keep things working, the techs, aren't. And I know for a fact some of Charter DNS servers run RedHat 6.1. I pointed out to them that ns1.chartertn.net accepted incoming telnet requests. Needless to say they fixed that immediately.:)
I found this.sig with the fortune program that came with my Slackware Linux. Isn't that fortune program _written_ by the BSD guys? Or is that particular fortune added only in the Slackware distribution? This is the second time in as many weeks someone's wanted to "correct" me on my.sig.
We'll see OS-X working on x86 architecture? As much as I'd love to check the whole thing out, I'm sure as hell not spending the duckies necessary to acquire a G4...
Perhaps you should, rather than make a feeble and what should be horribly embarassing (who in their right mind would moderated this obvious troll up?) attempt to troll me, consult the authors of the "fortune" program that was part of the BSD games package. Perhaps they can explain how this quote made it into the fortune package that came with my Slackware 7.0.
AFAIK, there was only _one_ copy of the ACTUAL document posted. Correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, if the user who posted the document _did not_ use the executable, but rather extracted the document in the manner described in other posts, he or she _never_ consented to the ridiculous EULA in the first place, and as such, should _not_ be bound by it. He or she therefore never violated any license or NDA, correct? IANAL, obviously, but I find this possible loophole an interesting idea.
You need a visit, complete with machete and vat of acid. Very simply, anyone who did their homework realized that while Linux is a good long-term investment because at some point it WILL be a dominant force in the computer industry, the sudden astronomical overvaluation of most of the Linux stocks was totally artificial. It was driven by the hype generated by the media who acted like they had discovered "the next big thing," when in fact what they discovered was something anyone even slightly in the know about the future of computing had known about for years... That the market would eventually demand more reliability and security and interoperability through open standards -- a demand that Linux (and the BSD's) meet far better than closed and proprietary solutions could ever hope to do. So what was Slashdot worth to Andover? The answer to that lies not in the current market volatilty, but in what happens to _all_ of Andover's Linux holdings over the next several years. I'd say the future is bright enough. But when all the big IPOs happened and the stocks went through the roof, everyone should have known that the overvaluations were bound to correct themselves down to a more realistic value eventually. So before you resort to things like calling someone an idiot, perhaps you should think about what THEY'RE saying, and about how small minded and insignificant you are to someone who takes time to try to understand the issue at hand rather than make kneejerk reactionary remarks.
On a personal note, I hope you're sterile... I'd hate to think people like you are capable of breeding.
The most wretched part of this whole market situation is that the "quality" of a company from an investment standpoint usually has no relationship whatsoever to the quality of their goods/services/products. For example, IMHO, Corel has always produced far superior software compared to another company that has traded for almost 20 times the price per share and had several times more shares floating around. All the hype in the tech market, to those with some small inkling of a clue, has been obviously just that--hype. There has never been a time that a share of VA was worth $300. VA knew it. You and I knew it. But the day traders may or may not have. If they lost, it's their damned fault for not doing their homework. Sure, falling tech stocks may cut into the pocketbook of some people who went to work for a company expecting their stock options to make them wealthy. So what? If they're skilled, even if their startup isn't successful, they won't stay unemployed for long. There are jobs aplenty for those willing to work.
And now, if you'll excuse me, my steak is ready...
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I think it's total BS that some people are now posting at -2 by default. I don't enjoy reading posts by losers like ubertroll... I can't imagine anyone that would. But it should be his right to speak his mind. This whole negative moderation seems stupid to me. Moderation should emphasize bringing attention to intelligent posts, not censor stupid ones. The fault for this lays more with moderators and the actual moderations system. I don't see the need for anything lower than a zero, though. Flames, trolls, and ACs who didn't really have anything to say, no matter how much I hate reading their posts, shouldn't need anything lower than 0. By filtering at +1, a great many good discusions that fell _under_ a 0 or -1 get missed.
On the other hand, if this were my personal soapbox instead of Taco's, I'd probably have foregone the whole moderation ordeal and started visiting trolls in person with a machete and a vat of acid a long time ago. He's tolerated the heat of this site for years without cracking. I don't know many of us that could do that. So, I _DO_ think Taco and Co. have shown considerable restraint. But I don't think that outright censorship is working, and I don't think that giving in and "giving the squeaky wheel the grease" with stories like this one is the answer, either. They're in a tough spot. If anyone can do better, or offer constructive criticism or helpful suggestions I'm sure they'd listen.
At the level of restraint the guys behind/. have shown. I'd have blown my stack a long time ago. With lameass hosers like ubertroll and his sort making a huge deal about VA stock dropping, I've begun to wish for a separate forum for them to waste bandwidth on so that I don't have to wade through their crap to find decent, well reasoned posts.
I don't mind a little back and forth now and then, but only if it's a real debate about something that matters. A company's stock price means diddly to me, and I agree with Taco that it's CNNfn's job to report those things, and not/.'s. Sometimes a good debate takes place here. I just find it difficult to justify wasting my time wading through trolls, "Naked and Petrified," Natalie Portman, "Hot Grits," and flame wars to find those few good threads.
Over 50 posts between 3/27 and 4/07... You need a life dude. Did ya ever notice that the ones that complain most about/. are the ones that stink it up with the most crap and stupidest posts?
There's one thing that really pisses me off about rpm and other binary package managers... If I installed, just as an example, pr0nlib from a source tarball, and then I attempt to install an RPM package that depends on pr0nlib (which I _know_ is installed and works) then RPM bitches that I haven't haven't met all the dependencies. But I know that when I look at/etc/ld.so.conf,/usr/local/lib/pr0nlib is there, and when I do an ldconfig -v all the stuff in/usr/local/lib/pr0nlib shows up as it should. Another gripe with systems built from mostly binary package managers is that, for some reason, things are much harder to compile from source, usually failing with some annoyingly cryptic error... I got so frustrated that I went to a minimal slackware system + development tools (includes,compilers, et. al.) and then built everything else from source tarballs.
Around our office, we've talked about it several times, working out the details between ourselves. We've figured out that we can use SSH to work with our server, instant messaging and video-conferencing software, and have our incoming calls forwarded from our work extensions to our home phones. It's very doable for us, but we've yet to try it. Almost all of us live in areas with cable modem service so bandwidth wouldn't be an issue. The only major obstacle is the PHB is a bit of a technophobe.
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Why should we care?
If IBM were sincere in their claims of supporting (not in the "call us and we'll help you for a fee" support, but an actual contributing member of the community) Open Source Software, they'd do more than offer GNU/Linux on a smattering of systems and port to their architectures that are in need of a market boost. But most people say "Oh! IBM released source code for filesystem! Their behind us all the way! Yay, Big Blue!" when what we should be doing is showing outrage that they expect us to happily lap up their table scraps like a filesystem that's already nearing its End of Life as a marketable product. And it's really NOT needed, since we already have ReiserFS, JFS, and ext3 on the horizon.
I mean, come on. If IBM were REALLY behind the Open Source Movement, they'd open up the source to USEFUL things like OS/2 Warp 4 (if their hands aren't tied by M$'s involvement with earlier OS/2 versions) and, IMHO, the nicest of all office suites, SmartSuite. And then THEY'D benefit as much as the community. Of course, now it's a bit late to open up SmartSuite since Sun is EOLing Star Office and giving it to the community. It's now destined to be modularized and evolve into Gnome Office.
What has this to do with BSD not booting on their notebooks? Not a damned thing. But it's like this: If you're smart enough to learn to install and use any Open Source OS, and it doesn't like your hardware then don't blame it on the hardware if the hardware works with other OSes. The OS is Open Source. Ask the hardware manufacturer for specs and details and try to fix it. If they aren't forthcoming with specs and helpful docs, then make yourself heard with the only thing companies understand -- your money. Buy elsewhere. Does this mean I'm anti-IBM? Absolutely not. They make fine hardware and some good software. But if they don't ENABLE the community to fix what is definitely an OS's shortcoming by providing them with the relevant info necessary to work around the problem, then we shouldn't be giving them our money.
Quicktime opening a .png that should load in any recent browser without using ANY plugin??? That's fucked up, indeed. As for the link in my .sig, I just got sick of fuckwits telling me my .sig was "wrong." Of course, the obvious solution to your problem is to download a .png to a local file, then SHIFT+RIGHT CLICK, choose "Open With," then make sure the "Always" check box is checked, then select your browser as the default viewer for .png files. Can't remember what the "Always" button said exactly since I no longer have a Win box in the house, although I could check at work. But I'm sure you can find what I'm referring to with no difficulty. :)
All it takes is one moderator on crack to fuck up a potentially good system.
I hate replying to a troll like you, but my .sig is taken verbatim from the BSD text games package that come with my Slackware Linux. Perhaps you should take your petty little nit-picking up with the maintainers of the BSD fortune program. Fucking shithead.
I wish people would keep the discussion relevant to the topic rather than continuously "correcting" my .sig.
I'm president of a small LUG, myself. Our meetings have generally been small social occasions to get together, drink beer and eat, and just have open-floor discussions. Now that we're ready to start growing, I've wondered about ideas to help draw people to meetings, and guest speakers were one idea under consideration. That and LAN parties. ;)
Perhaps getting people who use linux locally, like ISP admins, and local coders or programmers... and perhaps even the occasional opposing point of view, like someone from a Microshaft Certified Solution provider to get their opinion on things like samba, and Win/Unix integration...
While I have about us much use for Paul Allen (and anyone else associated with Micros~1) as tits on a boar hog, I use Charter's cable modem service both at home and at my office. At the office I'm using IP Masq to provide internet to all 20 workstation systems, and at home I'm using 3 IP's with one cable modem. On the little home LAN is one box doing IP Masq for 4 other boxen, and 2 other boxen getting their own IP's, one of which is my Quake3 server. And I know some their tech guys here in my area who use and love Linux and FreeBSD. Sales people may be clueless... But the people who really keep things working, the techs, aren't. And I know for a fact some of Charter DNS servers run RedHat 6.1. I pointed out to them that ns1.chartertn.net accepted incoming telnet requests. Needless to say they fixed that immediately. :)
I found this .sig with the fortune program that came with my Slackware Linux. Isn't that fortune program _written_ by the BSD guys? Or is that particular fortune added only in the Slackware distribution? This is the second time in as many weeks someone's wanted to "correct" me on my .sig.
Someone mod this up as not just funny, but fscking hilarious :)
We'll see OS-X working on x86 architecture? As much as I'd love to check the whole thing out, I'm sure as hell not spending the duckies necessary to acquire a G4...
Perhaps you should, rather than make a feeble and what should be horribly embarassing (who in their right mind would moderated this obvious troll up?) attempt to troll me, consult the authors of the "fortune" program that was part of the BSD games package. Perhaps they can explain how this quote made it into the fortune package that came with my Slackware 7.0.
Isn't the "Upgrade" topic icon the coolest?
AFAIK, there was only _one_ copy of the ACTUAL document posted. Correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, if the user who posted the document _did not_ use the executable, but rather extracted the document in the manner described in other posts, he or she _never_ consented to the ridiculous EULA in the first place, and as such, should _not_ be bound by it. He or she therefore never violated any license or NDA, correct? IANAL, obviously, but I find this possible loophole an interesting idea.
On a personal note, I hope you're sterile... I'd hate to think people like you are capable of breeding.
The most wretched part of this whole market situation is that the "quality" of a company from an investment standpoint usually has no relationship whatsoever to the quality of their goods/services/products. For example, IMHO, Corel has always produced far superior software compared to another company that has traded for almost 20 times the price per share and had several times more shares floating around. All the hype in the tech market, to those with some small inkling of a clue, has been obviously just that--hype. There has never been a time that a share of VA was worth $300. VA knew it. You and I knew it. But the day traders may or may not have. If they lost, it's their damned fault for not doing their homework. Sure, falling tech stocks may cut into the pocketbook of some people who went to work for a company expecting their stock options to make them wealthy. So what? If they're skilled, even if their startup isn't successful, they won't stay unemployed for long. There are jobs aplenty for those willing to work.
And now, if you'll excuse me, my steak is ready...
On the other hand, if this were my personal soapbox instead of Taco's, I'd probably have foregone the whole moderation ordeal and started visiting trolls in person with a machete and a vat of acid a long time ago. He's tolerated the heat of this site for years without cracking. I don't know many of us that could do that. So, I _DO_ think Taco and Co. have shown considerable restraint. But I don't think that outright censorship is working, and I don't think that giving in and "giving the squeaky wheel the grease" with stories like this one is the answer, either. They're in a tough spot. If anyone can do better, or offer constructive criticism or helpful suggestions I'm sure they'd listen.
I don't mind a little back and forth now and then, but only if it's a real debate about something that matters. A company's stock price means diddly to me, and I agree with Taco that it's CNNfn's job to report those things, and not /.'s. Sometimes a good debate takes place here. I just find it difficult to justify wasting my time wading through trolls, "Naked and Petrified," Natalie Portman, "Hot Grits," and flame wars to find those few good threads.
Over 50 posts between 3/27 and 4/07... You need a life dude. Did ya ever notice that the ones that complain most about /. are the ones that stink it up with the most crap and stupidest posts?
Woohooo! Glad to see B5 live on!
There's one thing that really pisses me off about rpm and other binary package managers... If I installed, just as an example, pr0nlib from a source tarball, and then I attempt to install an RPM package that depends on pr0nlib (which I _know_ is installed and works) then RPM bitches that I haven't haven't met all the dependencies. But I know that when I look at /etc/ld.so.conf, /usr/local/lib/pr0nlib is there, and when I do an ldconfig -v all the stuff in /usr/local/lib/pr0nlib shows up as it should. Another gripe with systems built from mostly binary package managers is that, for some reason, things are much harder to compile from source, usually failing with some annoyingly cryptic error... I got so frustrated that I went to a minimal slackware system + development tools (includes,compilers, et. al.) and then built everything else from source tarballs.
Around our office, we've talked about it several times, working out the details between ourselves. We've figured out that we can use SSH to work with our server, instant messaging and video-conferencing software, and have our incoming calls forwarded from our work extensions to our home phones. It's very doable for us, but we've yet to try it. Almost all of us live in areas with cable modem service so bandwidth wouldn't be an issue. The only major obstacle is the PHB is a bit of a technophobe.