phone with no dcma ?? First off its the DMCA.. You just blindly copy the parent post ??
second,The DMCA its not a vendor thing , Its the law that makes it legal for the goons to take your first born son for simply doing what you wish with your property. The vendor uses "DRM" And..
yes you are right , it is no different.. This case does have the real illagle part of the stolen hardware.. But the unlocking / jailbreaking shoudl not have been part of the charges.
Pystar bought each copy of the OS from apple , at the price apple was selling it to the general public.
The company sells you something , and you get to do with it as you wish.
Which includes selling it to someone else.
But for a dollar , sell for two. Its the basis for the capitalistic system.
How dare you tell me what the fuck I can do with your product once you sell it to me. If you dont want me doing what I wish with it , DONT SELL IT TO ME!!!
Seriously.. If you can not see that the person / persons responsible for the death are the ones that initiated the robbery
He put the home owner in the position where he needed to defend himself. He may not have pulled the trigger , but he caused the situation where the home owner had no choice but to pull the trigger.
A root cause is an initiating cause of a causal chain which leads to an outcome or effect of interest. Commonly, root cause is used to describe the depth in the causal chain where an intervention could reasonably be implemented to change performance and prevent an undesirable outcome
How is "the homeowner" a root cause.. What could have reasonably been changed about the home owner to prevent the death ?
Not owning a gun ? The man has a right to defend himself. Not having stuff someone would want to take? Having a more secure home that could not be invaded ? There is nothing about the homeowner that could reasonably be changed that would have prevented the death. He is NOT the root cause.
In this case , simply "not doing the robbery" is the most reasonably implemented intervention that would have prevented the death. You said so yourself with " he's dead due to a monumental mistake on his part" His mistake was "doing the robbery" Who is responsible for the robbery ?? The robbers , of course. The one guy is dead , so they cant charge him.
Yet you say it is unreasonable to send the case to trial and argue the facts.
There is a reasonable expectation that the homeowner will defend himself. How is shooting the intruder any diffrent then running over someone while escaping. Both were forced by the robber.
The robber put in motion the events could reasonably be foreseen as resulting in the death. If the robbery did not happen , the person would not be dead. I believe that the legal term is 'depraved indifference to human life'.
The secret to surviving a deer is to drive a truck of 1/2 ton or heavier, with the optional 4X4 package that jacks the truck up a few inches so the deer doesn't go over the hood.
That 1/2 ton thinggy refers to capacity , not the weight of the truck.. Proper wording would have been "drive a 1/2 ton truck or larger". However , I would not agree with your comment , as even the ford ranger with a 6 ft bed would be classified a "1/2 ton" truck.
Also.. what trucks 'optional' 4x4 package includes a lift kit ?? Bumper height is regulated , not much that the manufacturer can do and still sell it legally. Aftermarket , you can adjust it.. But can still get fined for ' illegal modifications'
That would be a true analogy , IF he had asked a specific question.
To match your doctor analogy. It would have been closer to a general practitioner / family doctor / primary care physician asking another one "I have a 25 year old male with a high cholesterol count , what should I do ?? " ( generalist to generalist asking about a general thing ).. The question is very vague , and any professional would ask many more questions before even beginning to give advice.
A question that would be closer to your cardiologist analogy would be a unix systems admin asking about awk and how it can be used to replace a perl regex. ( specialist to specialist asking about a specific thing )
Ec2 instances are accessible by the person who actually spins up the instance. It's built with a private key that no one has access too
Go and re-learn what that key is for.. and what it actually does..
nothing is "BUILT" with that key.. it is simply a value that can be used in the manifest.xml. What you do with it , is up to you..While 'SOME' ( perhaps even most ) use it to secure access.. the person spining up the instance does not need to have the private part of the key to launch it.. in fact I have a few configurations that ignore the "launch key" totally..
Also... about the comment on the vpc product..
the only difference between a vpc instance and 'public' instance is firewall rules.. That product was only added for people that did not want to roll there own. Proper manipulation of security groups and use of any flavor of ipsec gateway can duplicate it... Its nothing special.
I think you dont "get" what ec2 is designed to do.... But then again , no one can define 'the cloud' anyway.. so its expected.
30 miles a day.. 5 times a week.. 4.3 weeks in a month... 30 mpg.. 3.00 per gal..
((30 X 5 X 4.3) / 30) X 3 = 64.5
goes up to 95 for 20 mpg..
I dont know about you.. but I can call up my local car rental place and have them deliver ( yes.. you can get a rental car DELIVERED ) a car for less then that. And if you really will be renting once a month , you can get much better rates.. clubs and programs and such..
Now.. I like what you have been saying.. and you make some good points
But really.. where the hell do you think that there will be no gas station for 300+ plus road miles in any direction ?? I doubt you will find a location like that in the usa at least..
300 miles is a LONG distance... Remember.. its 250 miles between NY and DC..
Umm.. What makes you think that they would have high turnover.. UPS / FedEx/USPS all use "Long Life Vehicles" They turn over drivers more often then the trucks.
The Grumman llv that the USPS uses is designed for a 30 year life ( Last time they bought any was 1994 ).. For a delivery company , the freaking tucks are the most important thing , and they understand this.
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Whyfor you going as AC ?? Dont have the balls to put your name to the comment ??
And no .. .. and walked out with a box .. That is buying.
they walked into the store and gave the man money
They then proceded to install the stuf in the box for someone.
They did the same thing that everyone else did ..Apple got the money that apple was asking for.
Not there fault apple had some fraud scheme where they hide the real price of the item in the cost of the apple hardware.
YEAH !!! the first one in this thread to correct the dcma typo !!!
+ 10 geek points for you ...
phone with no dcma ?? First off its the DMCA .. You just blindly copy the parent post ??
second ,The DMCA its not a vendor thing , Its the law that makes it legal for the goons to take your first born son for simply doing what you wish with your property. The vendor uses "DRM" ..
And
yes you are right , it is no different.. This case does have the real illagle part of the stolen hardware .. But the unlocking / jailbreaking shoudl not have been part of the charges.
Pystar bought each copy of the OS from apple , at the price apple was selling it to the general public.
The company sells you something , and you get to do with it as you wish.
Which includes selling it to someone else.
But for a dollar , sell for two. Its the basis for the capitalistic system.
How dare you tell me what the fuck I can do with your product once you sell it to me. If you dont want me doing what I wish with it , DONT SELL IT TO ME!!!
Ok .. who is the idiot mod that modded you up ??
DMCA .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act
What is DCMA ??
DCMA ??
50 lashes for your typo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act
First of all .. wiki leaks is not the problem here ..
The problem that everyone seems to forget is that he/they "GOT THE DOCUMENTS IN THE FIRST PLACE" ..
If wiki leaks has access to "top secrete" or what was supposed to be secured documents .. Guess what , we did not do a very good job of securing them.
Having wiki leaks release them is not the idea situation .. Best would be for the documents to be returned without being made public.
But guess what , the simple fact that we can examine the docs and figure out how they were leaked ..
Hunting the man down is just stupid.
Has everyone in the government forgotten the simple concept of "root cause analysis"
Seriously .. If you can not see that the person / persons responsible for the death are the ones that initiated the robbery
He put the home owner in the position where he needed to defend himself. He may not have pulled the trigger , but he caused the situation where the home owner had no choice but to pull the trigger.
It is very simple logic.
First off ...
A root cause is an initiating cause of a causal chain which leads to an outcome or effect of interest. Commonly, root cause is used to describe the depth in the causal chain where an intervention could reasonably be implemented to change performance and prevent an undesirable outcome
How is "the homeowner" a root cause .. What could have reasonably been changed about the home owner to prevent the death ?
Not owning a gun ? The man has a right to defend himself.
Not having stuff someone would want to take?
Having a more secure home that could not be invaded ?
There is nothing about the homeowner that could reasonably be changed that would have prevented the death. He is NOT the root cause.
In this case , simply "not doing the robbery" is the most reasonably implemented intervention that would have prevented the death. You said so yourself with " he's dead due to a monumental mistake on his part" His mistake was "doing the robbery" Who is responsible for the robbery ?? The robbers , of course. The one guy is dead , so they cant charge him.
Yet you say it is unreasonable to send the case to trial and argue the facts.
What the fuck are you smoking ??
I can see that you don't do root cause analysis
The root cause of the death is the robbery .. SIMPLE
It is this fact that allows the person to be charged.
or are you saying it would be unreasonable to think that a robbery would not result in the home owner defending himself with deadly force ??
If the root cause is not the robbery .. what is it ??
They would both be direct results of the act of robbery.
In one case the car is the 'murder weapon' in the other the home owner is used as a weapon ...
How is it not the same?
We do not know the legal theory that is being used to charge the guy.
Perhaps the DA feels that the guy knew the owner was armed , and that the situation was set up so that the owner would shoot him.
This is simply a charge. He is not convicted of it yet.
Ok , If you are saying they cant be held responsible , then who is responsible for the death ?
This was not a 'accident'
The death was reasonably predictable.
There is a reasonable expectation that the homeowner will defend himself.
How is shooting the intruder any diffrent then running over someone while escaping.
Both were forced by the robber.
The robber put in motion the events could reasonably be foreseen as resulting in the death. If the robbery did not happen , the person would not be dead. I believe that the legal term is 'depraved indifference to human life'.
When was it renamed ??
even with the scaffolds up , they still have painted plywood with "new york public library" on them ..
The secret to surviving a deer is to drive a truck of 1/2 ton or heavier, with the optional 4X4 package that jacks the truck up a few inches so the deer doesn't go over the hood.
That 1/2 ton thinggy refers to capacity , not the weight of the truck .. Proper wording would have been "drive a 1/2 ton truck or larger". However , I would not agree with your comment , as even the ford ranger with a 6 ft bed would be classified a "1/2 ton" truck.
Also .. what trucks 'optional' 4x4 package includes a lift kit ?? Bumper height is regulated , not much that the manufacturer can do and still sell it legally. Aftermarket , you can adjust it .. But can still get fined for ' illegal modifications'
At least you can hit a wolf and have half a chance of surviving ..
you ever see what happens in deer vs car ?? there is never a winner.
That would be a true analogy , IF he had asked a specific question.
To match your doctor analogy. It would have been closer to a general practitioner / family doctor / primary care physician asking another one "I have a 25 year old male with a high cholesterol count , what should I do ?? " ( generalist to generalist asking about a general thing ) .. The question is very vague , and any professional would ask many more questions before even beginning to give advice.
A question that would be closer to your cardiologist analogy would be a unix systems admin asking about awk and how it can be used to replace a perl regex. ( specialist to specialist asking about a specific thing )
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Ec2 instances are accessible by the person who actually spins up the instance. It's built with a private key that no one has access too
Go and re-learn what that key is for .. and what it actually does ..
nothing is "BUILT" with that key .. it is simply a value that can be used in the manifest.xml. What you do with it , is up to you ..While 'SOME' ( perhaps even most ) use it to secure access .. the person spining up the instance does not need to have the private part of the key to launch it .. in fact I have a few configurations that ignore the "launch key" totally ..
Also ... about the comment on the vpc product ..
the only difference between a vpc instance and 'public' instance is firewall rules .. That product was only added for people that did not want to roll there own. Proper manipulation of security groups and use of any flavor of ipsec gateway can duplicate it ... Its nothing special.
I think you dont "get" what ec2 is designed to do .. .. But then again , no one can define 'the cloud' anyway .. so its expected.
Then you also know some people that do not claim there child as a dependent on there tax return.
Thats right .. cause osx is UNIX
Can you upgrade parts on your smart phone ??
Not sure about yours .. but the only 'parts' I can upgrade on mine is the battery and or the sd card ..
You are saying its not the same thing based on a difference that does not exist.
I dont think you have done the math.
30 miles a day .. 5 times a week .. 4.3 weeks in a month ... 30 mpg .. 3.00 per gal ..
((30 X 5 X 4.3) / 30) X 3 = 64.5
goes up to 95 for 20 mpg ..
I dont know about you .. but I can call up my local car rental place and have them deliver ( yes .. you can get a rental car DELIVERED ) a car for less then that. And if you really will be renting once a month , you can get much better rates .. clubs and programs and such..
Now .. I like what you have been saying .. and you make some good points
But really .. where the hell do you think that there will be no gas station for 300+ plus road miles in any direction ?? I doubt you will find a location like that in the usa at least ..
300 miles is a LONG distance ... Remember .. its 250 miles between NY and DC ..
Umm .. What makes you think that they would have high turnover .. UPS / FedEx /USPS all use "Long Life Vehicles" They turn over drivers more often then the trucks.
The Grumman llv that the USPS uses is designed for a 30 year life ( Last time they bought any was 1994 ) .. For a delivery company , the freaking tucks are the most important thing , and they understand this.
What lesson from the wii ??