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Student Googles Himself, Finds He's Accused of Murder

University of Florida student Zachary Garcia was more than a little surprised to find out he was wanted for murder after Googling his name. It turns out the police were looking for a different man but had mistakenly used Garcia's photo. From the article: "Investigators originally released a driver's license photo of Zachary Garcia — spelled with an 'A' — but it was Zachery Garcia — spelled with an 'E'— who was charged in connection with the crime."

184 comments

  1. Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by theY4Kman · · Score: 5, Funny

    We were looking for Hitler.

    1. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Have you seen my friend Kyle? He's about this tall...

    2. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SEEN KYLE?

    3. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by WitnessForTheOffense · · Score: 4, Funny

      "It's not my fault that Buttle's heart condition didn't appear on Tuttle's file!"

    4. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by EyelessFade · · Score: 1

      It's Mr. Hilter to you

    5. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by b4upoo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      So not only are Floridians unable to count votes we now find that they also can't spell even on a wanted poster.

    6. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1, Informative

      LOL. Awesome quote from Terry Gilliam's Brazil (1985). Nice to see another fan.

      He is usually known for:
      - Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975)
      - Life of Brian (1979)
      - The Adventures of Baron Munchausen (1988)

      All cult classics.

    7. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by ittybad · · Score: 1

      Goodwin'd on the first post. Bravo.

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    8. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by Ol+Biscuitbarrel · · Score: 1

      All cult classics.

      Not exactly obscure, either. But I was explaining Python to a 32 year old the other day, and couldn't believe anybody in this day and age wasn't familiar with dead parrot sketch etc. And this a fan of humor, too. Criminy, I first saw MP in 1978 when I was 7.

      My user name was meant to be "Ole Biscuitbarrel" which is also an MP ref, with an accent mark over the first 'e,' but /.'s way of handling characters it doesn't like in the registration process is to simply ignore them, which is pretty lame. I should just reregister as Tarquin Fintimlinbinwhinbimlim Bus Stop F'tang F'tang or the like.

    9. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by craash420 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I am a Floridion you insensitive clod!

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    10. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't see how this is any sort of news. People can completely ruin your reputation online, just for kicks. There was this thing going all around the internet a few months ago -- especially on facebook -- where everyone kept posting something about this guy from France. It basically went like this "I don't know if this is true or not, ut this guy (insert his full name here) has raped several women, so be ware of this person!". Of course, if you googled the guy, he was just some poor schmuck with a family and a respectable job that must have cut off the wrong person in traffic or something. But every fucking retard on the internet (including plenty of "woen's health" websites, for some reason) was copying and pasting this vile warning. Sometimes direclty and sometimes by throwing in the warning "I don't know if this is true, but better safe than sorry". Yeah, fuck you.

      Hey, I don't know if you are a child molestor, but I'm going to warn the entire city that you are one, because it's better to be safe than sorry. Even though I have no reason to believe you're one. But I'm going to do it anyway. Just because. And now his name is ruined, for the rest of his life and there's nothing he can do about it.

    11. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by Dexter+Herbivore · · Score: 1

      My user name was meant to be "Ole Biscuitbarrel" which is also an MP ref, with an accent mark over the first 'e,' but /.'s way of handling characters it doesn't like in the registration process is to simply ignore them, which is pretty lame. I should just reregister as Tarquin Fintimlinbinwhinbimlim Bus Stop F'tang F'tang or the like.

      But some call you... Tim?

    12. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gilliam is known for a lot these days, but he is the only American member of the Monty Python troupe, and did all the retro cartoons for The Flying Circus. Also, Gilliam always directed, but Chapman always was the star.
      But these days, 12 Monkeys is the first to come to mind regarding Gilliam (though The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus is decent).

      But since you mentioned 2 in the trilogy, I thought I'd spell that out for you.

      1) Time Bandits---> 2) Brazil ---> 3) Adventures of Baron Munchausen

      Hard to believe... but it was intended as a trilogy.

    13. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by shnull · · Score: 0

      you did forget tideland, gilliam owns the fantastic movie, maybe he invented it, maybe he's the wicked ghost of movies past, that's another fan, here

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    14. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by noidentity · · Score: 1

      Nice way to end the discussion before it even began.

    15. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by TheLink · · Score: 1

      What I find strange is that the actual burglary culprits were charged with murder when the person who died appears to have been shot by the homeowner: http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=149990&catid=8

      Charging them with burglary - fair.
      Endangering lives - fair.
      Murder? Sounds daft to me.

      Is this sort of thing normal in the USA or just Florida?

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    16. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by d3ac0n · · Score: 1

      Well, Considering that none of them would have been shot had they decided to obey the law and NOT rob a home, then yes, it's fair.

      Please note that in Florida (as in many other states in the US) a homeowner cannot be charged for using lethal force to defend himself, his family, and his property against unlawful intruders.

      Thus, by willfully choosing to commit a crime, they placed themselves into harms way and are each fully responsible for any outcome.

      What seems daft to me is charging a VICTIM with a crime when all they are doing is defending themselves. This is the situation in far too many places around the world.

      And before you bring up the argument that "It's the job of the Police to protect you, not yours!" I would remind you that it is NOT the job of the Police to prevent crime, it is the job of the Police to find the perp after the crime has occurred and bring them to justice. That doesn't really help you if the crime against you was murder.

      Like the wise man said: "When Seconds count, the Police are only Minutes away."

      Lock and load.

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    17. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Well, Considering that none of them would have been shot had they decided to obey the law and NOT rob a home, then yes, it's fair.

      Still seems unfair and ridiculous to me.

      That's like saying they committed murder if they cross the street after the burglary and a car knocks down one of them and kills him. Or a tree in the garden falls on him.

      Sure someone died. That doesn't mean the rest murdered him - they certainly never intended to.

      Pin something else on them if they insist, but not murder.

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    18. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by d3ac0n · · Score: 1

      Well, Considering that none of them would have been shot had they decided to obey the law and NOT rob a home, then yes, it's fair.

      Still seems unfair and ridiculous to me.

      That's like saying they committed murder if they cross the street after the burglary and a car knocks down one of them and kills him. Or a tree in the garden falls on him.

      Sure someone died. That doesn't mean the rest murdered him - they certainly never intended to.

      Pin something else on them if they insist, but not murder.

      It's not unfair at all. One of them would not have died if all of them had not decided to commit a crime.

      The point is, Once you decide to involve yourself in criminal activity, you are fully responsible for anything that happens in relation to that. The one kid died SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE the group of them decided to burglarize the home of an armed citizen.

      Now, perhaps "Involuntary Manslaughter" might be a more appropriate charge in the semantic sense as they obviously had no intention of one of them dying. However That doesn't make the Murder charge entirely inappropriate as, again, they were the ones that set out to commit a crime. They are wholly responsible for the results therein.

      It's about responsibility, and ensuring that criminals and criminals alone are held liable for the crimes they commit and any fallout from those crimes. Whether it was an armed citizen, or your hypothetical falling tree or traffic accident, had they not been there attempting to commit a crime, one of them would not have died. THEY are responsible, nobody else.

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    19. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by TheLink · · Score: 1

      It's not unfair at all. One of them would not have died if all of them had not decided to commit a crime.

      Even if one of them would not have died, had they not decided to commit a crime, still doesn't make it murder.

      That's like saying they committed murder if they cross the street after the burglary and a car knocks down one of them and kills him. Or a tree in the garden falls on him. Or if the kid got so excited that he got a heart/asthma attack and died.

      Using that sort of logic to justify calling it murder is like blaming a butterfly for a particular typhoon because it flapped its wings. Yes there wouldn't have been that typhoon if it didn't flap its wings sometime earlier, but at a certain level you have to draw a line somewhere.

      It's about responsibility,

      Yes. In my opinion they were responsible for burglary, but not murder. Nobody in this case was responsible for murder, because it was not murder. Yes someone died but it was not murder.

      If the perps shot their own guy by mistake then sure charge them for manslaughter or murder (again it depends). This case doesn't look like murder to me at all. Nor does it even look like they committed manslaughter either.

      The homeowner was not a force of nature that would have necessarily killed the kid. The homeowner still had a choice. He chose to shoot, the kid died, but it was self-defense so it's not murder. And the buck stops there.

      Otherwise from a legal perspective you could hold the parents, the family, the community, the schools, the Government, etc accountable too. Yes you can still put part of the blame on that them, while not holding them legally accountable for it.

      Heck, if all the kids knew the homeowner was likely to kill them, then it's suicide. Then charge the others for assisting a suicide (if it's illegal in Florida). It's still not murder.

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    20. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by d3ac0n · · Score: 1

      Yes. In my opinion they were responsible for burglary, but not murder.

      And here lies the problem. You are considering your uninformed OPINION as equal to the considered law in Florida. The two are not equal.

      I have been attempting to explain the existing law in Florida in a manner that you will understand, but apparently you aren't going to understand it because you consider your uninformed opinion so highly.

      To Wit: You are simply WRONG. Your attempt to conflate "The Butterfly Effect" with Florida law is at best, a stretch, and at worst, insultingly inane. Using your logic one might as well say that NO law is worth following because one could somehow manage to take it to some ridiculous extreme. This is moronic and wrong. There is such a thing as "direct cause" in legal thought, and it factors in this circumstance.

      Now, if you wanted to argue that a different charge would perhaps be more appropriate, or more likely to produce a conviction then I think we could have a solid discussion on that. but to simply say that the Murder charge is "daft" and leave it at just shows your ignorance of local law.

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    21. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by Wildclaw · · Score: 1

      What seems daft to me is charging a VICTIM with a crime when all they are doing is defending themselves. This is the situation in far too many places around the world.

      Which is why I fully support the right of pedestrians to use automatic weapons against any car driving above the speed limit.

      Also, don't forget about the right of RIAA/MPAA to form assassination squads to chase down copyright violators. Seriously, they need to be allowed to defend their property

    22. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by TheLink · · Score: 1

      And here lies the problem. You are considering your uninformed OPINION as equal to the considered law in Florida. The two are not equal.

      No. You're ASSUMING that I consider my opinion equal to that stupid interpretation of local law, and I certainly don't. Where have I indicated that I consider my opinion equal?

      So you've got the "here lies the problem" part wrong. And it's even irrelevant. You should be saying stuff like "here lies the problem, the kids are responsible for murder because [list of reasons], and your reasoning is wrong because [list of reasons]".

      Yes you can say "because Local Law Says So", but you won't be adding much value.

      that the Murder charge is "daft" and leave it at just shows your ignorance of local law.

      If you're correct about the local law, then the local law is daft, and the murder charge is still daft.

      To think that the local law has to be 100% correct is daft too.

      Anyway here it is again in hopefully clearer form:

      The homeowner had free will and (IMO) his will was not overridden significantly by others. He freely chose to shoot the kid. Unless there was a major screw-up at the hospital etc, the kid died mainly because the homeowner shot him. It was considered self-defense, so it was not murder. Since the death was not a result of murder, nobody can be held responsible for murder. QED.

      If your interpretation holds, then a policeman in pursuit of robbers could personally destroy a city ala hollywood, and the robbers be charged for the resulting mass murders. Since if the robbers didn't do the crime, the policeman wouldn't have shot up the city.

      But the policeman is still responsible for his actions, and similarly the homeowner is still responsible for what he did. The difference is, though he is responsible for the death of the kid, his actions were considered justified.

      Lastly, my understanding is the cops can charge the kids with murder even if it is incorrect to do so by local law (and a court hearing such a case might rule that the kids are innocent of murder).

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    23. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by AdamWeeden · · Score: 1

      It's called the Felony murder rule.

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      I was quoted out of context in my autobiography...
    24. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Sure but that says:

      First, when an offender kills accidentally or without specific intent to kill in the course of an applicable felony, what might have been manslaughter is escalated to murder. Second, it makes any participant in such a felony criminally liable for any deaths that occur during or in furtherance of that felony.

      1) The participants in the felony did not actually do the killing, the homeowner killed a participant.
      2) Having a participant killed by the homeowner in self defense is not in furtherance of the felony nor an integral part of the felony.

      So it still seems wrong to me to charge the rest of the felony participants for murder just because the homeowner killed a participant in self-defense.

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    25. Re:Sorry, Mr. Hitlar, by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Even more odd, according to the above article, even the guys who didn't enter the house were charged with the murder. Does it make sense for the getaway driver to be charged with murder because someone inside got shot?

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  2. I wonder how many by michelcolman · · Score: 1

    slashdotters are googling themselves right now.

    1. Re:I wonder how many by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wouldn't show anything for me. My name is too common. However, <firstname lastname city> shows me on the results, but still not first.

    2. Re:I wonder how many by shadowrat · · Score: 0

      that's so weird! my name is Firstname Lastname, but i live in Town. It's just a few miles up the road from City.

    3. Re:I wonder how many by AK+Marc · · Score: 2, Funny

      And here I imagined him googling "Coward, Anonymous"

    4. Re:I wonder how many by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And like their voice mail they find nothing. Whew!

    5. Re:I wonder how many by Reilaos · · Score: 1

      My name first name and last name match the first and middle name of an occultist, so I get him whenever I google myself.

      I wonder if my being wanted for murder would push me up the results over that guy.... This is a dangerous train of thought.

    6. Re:I wonder how many by RobertM1968 · · Score: 1

      I actually had a friend who lived in a town named Street (Street, MD).

    7. Re:I wonder how many by thejuggler · · Score: 2, Funny

      Apparently I stole Microsoft source code and tried to sell it and got busted back in 2004/2005. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Genovese

      I am NOT ILLWILL!!

      I am NOT THAT stupid!

    8. Re:I wonder how many by clone52431 · · Score: 1

      Was his last name Street too? If so, he should’ve gone to medical school.

      Street, M.D. of Street, MD.

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    9. Re:I wonder how many by RobertM1968 · · Score: 1

      Uh wow! You know him too?

    10. Re:I wonder how many by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      There is an address 123 West South Street in Warrensburg, MO.

    11. Re:I wonder how many by masher_oz · · Score: 1

      There's a High Street Road just near where I live...

    12. Re:I wonder how many by Stregano · · Score: 1

      I have the same first and last name of a rockstar by coincidence, so I always have cool stuff going on when I google my name. It would be very cool if they started using my picture as well

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    13. Re:I wonder how many by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      pervert

    14. Re:I wonder how many by OlRickDawson · · Score: 1

      The best street sign that I have seen was for "That Road"

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    15. Re:I wonder how many by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      Anton?

    16. Re:I wonder how many by IrquiM · · Score: 1

      Did it yesterday - only a couple of outstanding tickets and a DUI - nothing to write home about

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    17. Re:I wonder how many by Ch_Omega · · Score: 1

      Lucky you... I have the same first and last name as a famous tripple-murderer. Various "interesting" experiences have thought me to use my middle-name when introducing myself to new people...

    18. Re:I wonder how many by drcheap · · Score: 2, Funny

      Better yet...here is the intersection of This Way & That Way.

    19. Re:I wonder how many by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

      The best street name that I've ever seen is Ragged Ass Road in the city of Yellowknife.
      I always thought that anyone living there would have a helluva time ordering anything by phone or mail order. "What's your address?" "123 Ragged Ass Road." "Yeah, sure it is." *click*

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    20. Re:I wonder how many by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      I always thought that anyone living there would have a helluva time ordering anything by phone or mail order.

      Living in Yellowknife? Yes, yes they would.

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    21. Re:I wonder how many by Samah · · Score: 1

      I actually had a friend who lived in a town named Street (Street, MD).

      I used to live on "Avenue Road". That always brought a chuckle whenever someone asked my address.

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    22. Re:I wonder how many by treeves · · Score: 1

      Wait, wouldn't he have been googling "too common"?

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    23. Re:I wonder how many by Mr.+Droopy+Drawers · · Score: 1

      So, you're not THAT "Michael Bolton"?

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    24. Re:I wonder how many by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So I googled for the terms [firstname, lastname, city] on Google images. So which one are you? The old dude standing next to the target, or the model on the Givenchy add?

    25. Re:I wonder how many by keriaan · · Score: 1

      I wonder how many slashdotters are googling themselves right now.

      Bet it's a lot. Don't most of us have porn open in the next tab? I thought the whole killing a kitten thing was a myth though... Crap.

    26. Re:I wonder how many by AdamWeeden · · Score: 1

      Why should I have to change my name? He's the one who sucks^H^H^H^H^H killed someone.

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    27. Re:I wonder how many by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to be a manager for a national pizza delivery chain. I was talking to the guys installing new POS software & hardware, and at one point the discussion turned to just that sort of thing, which is surprisingly common.

      Where I grew up, there was a Boulevard Street. The worst I can recall was a friend of my mom's who lived on North Southeast Street Court. That's just perverse.

      - T

  3. He will have a hard time geting a job now by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    He will have a hard time getting a job now.

    1. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by aitikin · · Score: 1

      Time for a lawsuit and a name change.

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    2. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by chemicaldave · · Score: 1

      I'd be thinking about a lawsuit if they didn't remove all photos of me related to the murder.

    3. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... and a face change.

    4. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by oldspewey · · Score: 1

      Nope, trying to do a face change will only get him sued.

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    5. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by oldspewey · · Score: 1

      ... to the extent that anything can be "removed" from the internet once it's out in the wild.

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    6. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by Xugumad · · Score: 1

      Hopefully the brain dead idiocy that first name & last name is a unique identifier will die sooner or later. In the meantime, he would probably be well advised to do what those of us who do not Google well do, and make some mention of it in a covering letter. Admittedly, "I'm not a murderer" is probably a little weirder than "I'm not in a band, that's the other <first name> <last name>, nor do I have a PhD in Biology"...

    7. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by meerling · · Score: 1

      Not only is your name not a unique identifier, but if you spell it wrong, you aren't even close when doing a data search.

    8. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by sumdumass · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Getting a job? Hell this explains why he couldn't get a date over the last couple of years. Didn't you know that women google you now before going on dates to see if you are some looser or something embarrassing might pop up and shame them in front of their girlfriends?

      I had one girl shoot me down because she could fine 20 to 30 others with the same name as mine but not me on a google search. She claimed I was using an alias.

    9. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by dwinks616 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Or maybe they realized with spelling as bad as yours, you likely didn't make it past 3rd grade.

    10. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by jimicus · · Score: 1

      I'd say he'll probably have an easier time than if he hadn't found this.

      A week from now, the first hit on Google for his name will be this story. Amusing, and must have given him the shock of his life, but won't seriously concern anyone.

      Last week, they'd have seen the same thing as Garcia.

    11. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by ryanov · · Score: 1

      Someone at my university wrote something and included Soundex searches. It is really dead on for finding the right spelling of the name with a misspelled name.

    12. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by Pichu0102 · · Score: 1

      "Why should I have to change my name, he's the one that sucks!"

    13. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with my 3rd grade education? And exactly where exactly is the incorrect spelling?

      Perhaps you haven't learned as much in all your years of schooling as I have in my 4 years.

    14. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by Effexor · · Score: 1

      I suspect it he's talking about 'looser', which I admit is my one all time personal spelling nazi trigger. A looser is someone who isn't quite as tight enough. Insults should always be spelled correctly.

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    15. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      And there's also "fine" instead of "find".

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    16. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I had one girl shoot me down because she could fine 20 to 30 others with the same name as mine but not me on a google search. She claimed I was using an alias.

      You may not believe me, but you dodged a bullet.

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    17. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by craash420 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, you'd have better luck taking the pee out of a pool.

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    18. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      Nah, crazy sex is the best sex until she can't hide the crazy anymore. It probably could have been an amazing week or two!

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      I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

    19. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You may not believe me, but you dodged a bullet.

      I read this out-of-context and assumed it was from TFA. Could also apply.

    20. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      It is an extremely accurate word if used to describe a girl I once knew

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    21. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by aitikin · · Score: 1

      "Why should I have to change my name, he's the one that sucks!"

      ...welcome to America.

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    22. Re:He will have a hard time geting a job now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had one girl shoot me down

      You may not believe me, but you dodged a bullet.

      Didn't you read what he wrote? The girl shot him, dodging a bullet is what he failed to do. ;)

  4. North by Northwest by Abstrackt · · Score: 1

    Has anyone ever told you that you overplay your various roles rather severely, Mr. Garcia?

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  5. Where's the rest of the video? by Amorymeltzer · · Score: 1

    Next item on "The Rundown" is "Naked Ladies"... I'd rather watch that story.

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    1. Re:Where's the rest of the video? by savvysteve · · Score: 1

      Well it is local news so I am sure the good parts will be blurred.... LOL

  6. Opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who else has heard of the legendary four corners of opportunity? Can you name them all?

    The stuffing is a nice place. It's warm, it's stuffy, and there's parades all around!

    1. Re:Opportunity by HalifaxRage · · Score: 1

      Do you mean http://www.timecube.com ?

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    2. Re:Opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CENTMAN - The act of giving an evil toy a few cents to leave you alone.
      HEHMAN - The satisfied feeling you get when you blame your actions on another, thereby causing their bootyasscheek johnson ultimatums to be violated to the fullest extent (or tickled).
      THATMAN - The target you are trying to blame.
      UGHMAN - When your plans do not go as expected but your bootyasscheek johnson ultimatums end up less violated or tickled than expected.

  7. That's nothing! by Chemisor · · Score: 1

    I googled myself the other day and found out I was murdered!

    1. Re:That's nothing! by panda · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You laugh, but a man, with the same first and last name as I, was murdered in Jamaica several years ago in a rather brutal fashion: he was decapitated with a machete. He was leading a ring of phone scammers and some of the other members of the ring had a disagreement over the money.

      Another man with the same first and last name is serving a prison sentence for weapons charges.

      Another man with the same first and last name is a doctor.

      Another is a low-budget file directory.

      I could go on.

      Its fun having a common name.

      No, I didn't google myself as a result of this story. I do from time to time when bored with nothing else to do. If you google my name now, you don't get the murder story until very far into the results, but it was among the top results when it happened four or five years ago.

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    2. Re:That's nothing! by WidgetGuy · · Score: 1

      My mom warned me I'd go blind if I didn't stop googling myself five to six times a day..

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    3. Re:That's nothing! by denzacar · · Score: 1

      You laugh, but a man, with the same first and last name as I, was murdered in Jamaica several years ago in a rather brutal fashion: he was decapitated with a machete. He was leading a ring of phone scammers and some of the other members of the ring had a disagreement over the money.

      If I were you, I'd make sure my toilet bowl is clean enough to drink from.

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    4. Re:That's nothing! by panda · · Score: 1

      Heh, "file directory" should be film director.

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    5. Re:That's nothing! by panda · · Score: 1

      Yeah. That's one of the best films ever.

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    6. Re:That's nothing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      P. Anda, you're coming after you.

    7. Re:That's nothing! by AdamWeeden · · Score: 1

      For a second there I thought your name was Norton Commander!

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  8. Naked Ladies by nege · · Score: 4, Funny

    Am I the only one that noticed "NAKED LADIES" on the news bar to the right of the screen at the start of video? I have the whole internet at my fingertips and I'm thinking "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE NAKED LADIES???"

    1. Re:Naked Ladies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, two thirds of "the whole internet" is , in fact, naked ladies.

  9. (Semi)-Common name FTW by EricWright · · Score: 1

    Stories like this make me glad I have a fairly common name that is shared with multiple famous people, including a former NFL player, a dead rapper and a famous architect.

    1. Re:(Semi)-Common name FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Biggie"?

    2. Re:(Semi)-Common name FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >NFL player, a dead rapper and a famous architect.

      DJ Brett Lyoyd Wright Daddy, is that you?

    3. Re:(Semi)-Common name FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      tupac?

    4. Re:(Semi)-Common name FTW by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 0, Troll

      "Stories like this make me glad I have a fairly common name that is shared with multiple famous people, including a former NFL player, a dead rapper and a famous architect."

      I'm just glad the rapper is dead.

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    5. Re:(Semi)-Common name FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're not THE Eric Wright? That makes me sad. Every time I see you post I think about how I used to know a bitch named Eric Eright. We used to roll around and fuck the hoes at night. Tight than a motherfucker with the gangsta beats. And we was ballin' on the motherfucking Compton streets.

  10. Pretty Crazy by savvysteve · · Score: 1

    Really sounds like some crappy odds... The guy's name is one letter different and the birth dates are one year apart. This really does appear to be an honest mistake. The two pictures even looked a lot a like. It sounds like he did the right thing and contacted the police and cleared his "name" spelled with an "a" not and "e". I'm sure this isn't the first time something like this has happened but in this case I can see how it did happen.

    1. Re:Pretty Crazy by rhizome · · Score: 1

      The two pictures even looked a lot a like.

      You know we pay people a lot of money to be good at this kind of thing, right? I'm not so sure I'd want to let them off the hook so easily.

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  11. Well, someone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Close enough.
    To quote National Treasure, "Someone's has to go to jail."

    1. Re:Well, someone... by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      Close enough.
      To quote National Treasure, "Someone's has to go to jail."

      If someone is going to jail, make sure its the client.

  12. There's a movie for this... by zuki · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Inbefore the obligatory quote from Terry Gilliam's prophetic movie masterpiece Brazil with the mistake between 'Buttle' and 'Tuttle', and the ensuing pandemonium.

    1. Re:There's a movie for this... by dkleinsc · · Score: 2, Funny

      As stated clearly in Internet Posting Control Commission policy 57Q paragraph 14 subsection xli, in order to claim 'Inbefore' status, you must fill out forms 27B-6, ID10-T, and P3B-C4K in triplicate, and get approvals from the Comment Working Group 2 weeks before you make the comment. Any questions or concerns about this policy should be directed to the Complaints Reporting SubCommittee of the IPCC on the third Thursday of the month.

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    2. Re:There's a movie for this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  13. A clever ploy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    -First have an ID made with a minor spelling difference of your name.
    -Commit murder.
    -When the police look for you point out the minor difference and lead them to believe it is a case of stolen identity.
    -Post story to slashdot to make it sound like fact.
    -Profit!

  14. Privacy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So I'm curious if it's a privacy issue to be posting his DOB all over the airwaves and subsequently the net.

  15. Too many hits = crude privacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only privacy I have on Google is that I've also got a common enough name that googling me gets a few million hits. The first few pages are about a professional jazz drummer with a similar name, and if you've heard me drumming you know that we're not the same person. You could still google my name and a few keywords and get stuff about me, but I'm not even the only person in my field with my name.

  16. that isn't the real crime here by Jailbrekr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The real travesty is not that law enforcement mixed him up with another kid, its that the kid is charged with felony murder because the homeowner of the house he was robbing shot at and killed one of his friends. While I cannot necessarily condemn the homeowner for his act, to charge the three surviving robbers with murder is ludicrous. One teenager paid the highest possible price for his foolish act, and now the criminal justice system is going to destroy three other lives? what the hell Florida? If I jaywalk with three other people and a motor runs over one of us, are the rest of us guilty of vehicular manslaughter?

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    1. Re:that isn't the real crime here by Low+Ranked+Craig · · Score: 0

      Most states have the same law. If you are in the act of committing a felony, and someone dies as a result, you are guilty of murder. Makes sense to me.

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    2. Re:that isn't the real crime here by PlusFiveTroll · · Score: 0

      If I jaywalk with three other people and a motor runs over one of us, are the rest of us guilty of vehicular manslaughter?

      If by jaywalking at that time and place is a felony offense, then yes the rest of you are (or can be charged and tried)

      Moral of the story, do not be a fucking piece of shit, or you could go to prison for the rest of your life for it.

    3. Re:that isn't the real crime here by Jailbrekr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The fact that you cannot see the immorality of this kind of logic is further evidence of the systemic breakdown of both morality and law within your (our) society. Theft is not murder, but by the twisted logic of your court system, it can be if a homeowner uses lethal force to protect his physical possessions. Now, having said that, I can see where something like this can originate from. If you're getting robbed, and you bolt out into traffic to get away only to be squished by a truck, the robber is culpible. Run over a pedestrian while trying to get away? Culpible. Robbing a house only to have your friend shot and killed by the homeowner? Probably not the original intent of the bill but hey, slippery slopes tend to end up in ridiculous situations like this.

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    4. Re:that isn't the real crime here by Ihmhi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's the brilliant genius of the felony murder law.

      If someone dies while you're commiting a felony - even if you didn't pull the trigger - you're liable for felony murder.

      In this case, I suppose the justification is that if the kids never tried to rob the house their companion never would have died and thus they are guilty of felony murder as a result. Honestly though I think the whole law is too broad and overreaching. There shouldn't be such harsh penalties for an indirect responsibility.

    5. Re:that isn't the real crime here by kevorkian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There is a reasonable expectation that the homeowner will defend himself.
      How is shooting the intruder any diffrent then running over someone while escaping.
      Both were forced by the robber.

      The robber put in motion the events could reasonably be foreseen as resulting in the death. If the robbery did not happen , the person would not be dead. I believe that the legal term is 'depraved indifference to human life'.

    6. Re:that isn't the real crime here by PacketShaper · · Score: 1

      No. You would not be charged because you were not in the act of committing a felony by jaywalking, as they were with this home invasion.

      I live in Florida and a friend's girlfriend was charged with murder because of an incident very similar to this. She lured some guy to a place with the promise of sex in order for her two armed friends to rob him.
      The would-be victim pulled a a gun and shot one of the would-be robbers. The other and the girl who "masterminded" the crime both got 25 to life for their part in their friend's wrongful death while committing a felony.

    7. Re:that isn't the real crime here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >If someone dies while you're commiting a felony

      Where I live, having a detectable amount of marijuana on your person is a felony.
      So if anyone dies anywhere while you have a joint in your pocket, is that murder?

    8. Re:that isn't the real crime here by Jailbrekr · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you can't differentiate between those two acts, where one death is a direct results of the criminals actions and the other death is a direct result of the victims actions, then you shouldn't be debating this. Reasonable expectation of a homeowner defending himself doesn't morally permit the criminal justice system to stick the responsibility of the criminals death on another criminal, no matter how emotionally satisfying that may be.

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    9. Re:that isn't the real crime here by whoop · · Score: 1

      If you can't see that the perpetrators are responsible for anything that occurs during the commission of a crime, then you don't need to be debating this. You aren't morally permitted to decide what is morally allowed within the justice system, when the law is written such as I stated above. I win, you lose, as my daughter tells me all too often.

    10. Re:that isn't the real crime here by Jailbrekr · · Score: 1

      Perpetrators are responsible for their own actions, not the actions of others, which is what this boils down to. If they were directly responsible for the death, then we wouldn't be having this arguement. But they weren't, the homeowner was (justifiably of course). Do you enjoy taking the blame for someone elses actions? I sure don't and I think its absolutely wrong for any organization to force that kind of responsibility onto someone. whats next, putting the crimes of the father onto the son? Where does this slipperly slope concept of indirect responsibility end?

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    11. Re:that isn't the real crime here by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Nobody is saying the homeowner should not defend himself, just that it's ludicrous that the other kids are being tried for murder. They did not murder anyone, the homeowner did.

      If the drug the other person with them and held him against is will act as a human target, then you would have a point.

      And no, the legal term does not apply here. None of the dependents acting in a manner that disregarding anyones life.

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    12. Re:that isn't the real crime here by geekoid · · Score: 1

      citation needed.

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    13. Re:that isn't the real crime here by kevorkian · · Score: 1

      Ok , If you are saying they cant be held responsible , then who is responsible for the death ?

      This was not a 'accident'

      The death was reasonably predictable.

    14. Re:that isn't the real crime here by Tanman · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is a basic tenant in all courts in America: If you initiate a crime, you are charged with ALL consequences that take place as a result of your crime.

      Basically, it works like this:

      If you do crime A which has results B and C, you will be charged with all results. If you commit burglary, and someone dies as a result of your burglary, it is your fault. And frankly, that's the way it should be.

    15. Re:that isn't the real crime here by kevorkian · · Score: 1

      They would both be direct results of the act of robbery.

      In one case the car is the 'murder weapon' in the other the home owner is used as a weapon ...

      How is it not the same?

      We do not know the legal theory that is being used to charge the guy.

      Perhaps the DA feels that the guy knew the owner was armed , and that the situation was set up so that the owner would shoot him.

      This is simply a charge. He is not convicted of it yet.

    16. Re:that isn't the real crime here by scot4875 · · Score: 1

      By that logic, sex could result in life, which will definitely be foreseen as resulting, ultimately, in a human death. Therefore having sex shows 'depraved indifference to human life'.

      Another scenario: a dad who's been laid off and just ran out of unemployment benefits can't afford to buy food for his kids, and goes to steal a loaf of bread for his family. If he gets shot in the process, you'll turn around and say he had depraved indifference to human life.

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    17. Re:that isn't the real crime here by kevorkian · · Score: 1

      I can see that you don't do root cause analysis

      The root cause of the death is the robbery .. SIMPLE

      It is this fact that allows the person to be charged.

      or are you saying it would be unreasonable to think that a robbery would not result in the home owner defending himself with deadly force ??

      If the root cause is not the robbery .. what is it ??

       

    18. Re:that isn't the real crime here by kevorkian · · Score: 1

      What the fuck are you smoking ??

    19. Re:that isn't the real crime here by Vegemeister · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The homeowner, who was justified, and the dead man, who cannot be charged.

    20. Re:that isn't the real crime here by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      If you are in any way at fault... i.e. you're involved in an even a misdemeanor and you have that joint in your pocket, it adds a felony charge to the whole thing.

      So in theory, if you had a joint in your pocket, someone rams your car, and the other driver dies, you could conceivably be tried for felony murder (though IANAL, take what I say with a grain of salt).

    21. Re:that isn't the real crime here by Jailbrekr · · Score: 1

      The root cause of that persons death was at the hands of the homeowner who was defending his person or property. That doesn't mean that the dead teenagers friend is liable for that death.

      I get the impression that you and others seem to think that there needs to be someone found responsible for that teenagers death. There is, and he's dead due to a monumental mistake on his part. His friend/partner, however, isn't.

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    22. Re:that isn't the real crime here by Jailbrekr · · Score: 1

      Criminal runs over a pedestrian while trying to get away. He is in control of the vehicle which caused the death. Normally he would get criminal negligence causing death or vehicular manslaughter, a far lighter penalty than felony murder. In this scenario, the law works as it allows the prosecutors to charge him with what he deserves.

      Criminal breaks into a house, and his friend gets shot by the homeowner. He was not in control of the homeowner or gun. The one responsible for this tragedy is the homeowner and the deceased. The homeowner is justified in his actions so the responsibility for the persons death is the deceased himself. In this scenario, the law does not work because his friend had no direct control over the homeowner or his gun and yet he is being held reposnsible for another persons direct actions.

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    23. Re:that isn't the real crime here by kevorkian · · Score: 1

      First off ...

      A root cause is an initiating cause of a causal chain which leads to an outcome or effect of interest. Commonly, root cause is used to describe the depth in the causal chain where an intervention could reasonably be implemented to change performance and prevent an undesirable outcome

      How is "the homeowner" a root cause .. What could have reasonably been changed about the home owner to prevent the death ?

      Not owning a gun ? The man has a right to defend himself.
      Not having stuff someone would want to take?
      Having a more secure home that could not be invaded ?
      There is nothing about the homeowner that could reasonably be changed that would have prevented the death. He is NOT the root cause.

      In this case , simply "not doing the robbery" is the most reasonably implemented intervention that would have prevented the death. You said so yourself with " he's dead due to a monumental mistake on his part" His mistake was "doing the robbery" Who is responsible for the robbery ?? The robbers , of course. The one guy is dead , so they cant charge him.

      Yet you say it is unreasonable to send the case to trial and argue the facts.

    24. Re:that isn't the real crime here by kevorkian · · Score: 1

      Seriously .. If you can not see that the person / persons responsible for the death are the ones that initiated the robbery

      He put the home owner in the position where he needed to defend himself. He may not have pulled the trigger , but he caused the situation where the home owner had no choice but to pull the trigger.

      It is very simple logic.

    25. Re:that isn't the real crime here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's way too soft, clearly your parents should go to jail too.

    26. Re:that isn't the real crime here by sjames · · Score: 1

      I could understand the charge if an innocent party is killed, but not when one of the felons is killed.

    27. Re:that isn't the real crime here by sjames · · Score: 1

      The difference is that the robbers all knowingly and willingly accepted the natural dangers of robbing a home. A 3rd party who gets run over or a homeowner that gets killed did NOT willingly accept the risk by word or deed.

    28. Re:that isn't the real crime here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you do crime A which has results B and C, you will be charged with all results. If you commit burglary, and someone dies as a result of your burglary, it is your fault. And frankly, that's the way it should be.

      Ok.. so the homeowner go on a killing spree, shoot everyone he sees: burglars, bypassers, policemen. When does defending stop, when someone who claims to be police says so? Until then every stranger on sight is a burglar? Even the policemen could be burglars in disguise.

      And burglars get all the blame becase "it all resulted from them committing a felon"?

      Stupid system in a country with stupid majority.

    29. Re:that isn't the real crime here by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      So if I jaywalk, someone else slows his car down a bit, and a Butterfly Effect ensues that causes a civil war in Sierra Leone, I can be charged with war crimes?

    30. Re:that isn't the real crime here by BitterOak · · Score: 1

      Yep. It's called felony murder. As you say, most states have a similar law.

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    31. Re:that isn't the real crime here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only that, but by being an accomplice, he made his friend more likely to actually go through with the crime.

      Or are you trying to avoid having to admit to opposing lethal force by the homeowner (the victim of the crime)?

  17. Felony murder law by Zatar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    On a complete tangent, reading this article is the first time I've noticed the ugly little details of the "felony murder law".

    Under Florida law, individuals involved in a felony resulting in death can be charged with murder.

    You'd think that means if you kill someone while committing a felony that you can be charged with murder. That seems somewhat reasonable, although I can think of cases where it would be excessive.

    It turns out if you break into a house for a robbery and some other guy that came with you kills someone maybe somewhere else in the house and you didn't even know you can still be charged with murder.

    Now, that seems pretty unfair but we find out in this story that they can go even beyond that. In this story a couple of kids break into a house and the homeowner shoots and kills one of them. They then applied this law to charge the other kid with murder!

    That's pretty messed up.

    1. Re:Felony murder law by hldn · · Score: 1

      That's pretty messed up.

      uh not really, their actions are directly responsible for that other kid dying. they are very much culpable.

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    2. Re:Felony murder law by Jailbrekr · · Score: 1

      And if you jaywalk with a friend, only to have your friend get hit by a car, you are guilty of vehicular manslughter.

      Don't drop the soap.

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    3. Re:Felony murder law by alexander_686 · · Score: 1

      IANAL, but this little bit of law is standard in the US and been for a long time. Heck, I even think it standard under common law - so not just the US and not just recently.

    4. Re:Felony murder law by Tynin · · Score: 1

      And if you jaywalk with a friend, only to have your friend get hit by a car, you are guilty of vehicular manslughter.

      As a Floridian, I can happily inform you that jaywalking is one of the few things you can do in this State that isn't a felony.

    5. Re:Felony murder law by Bobakitoo · · Score: 1

      The one that press the triger is the one DIRECTLY responsible for the death. In that case, he was legitimate to shoot. Therefore, there was no murder. If you think indirect responsability should get charged with murder to apprear tough on crime then why not charge the architect! That right, he did not put bars on windows when he design the house, simple bars would have prevent the kid from entering and get kill in the first place.

    6. Re:Felony murder law by spazdor · · Score: 1

      If you are guilty of any crime, YOU ARE GUILTY OF ALL CRIMES.
      Principle of explosion, right?

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    7. Re:Felony murder law by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      Because the architect wasn't commiting a feloney.

      A better example would be a case where a guy committed purgery when, on the stand, when he testified that he was with his wife on the night that his wife's sister was accused of drunk driving. Having told his wife that he was at work, he pisses off his wife so much that she pulls out a gun and shoots the Judge, all members of the Jury, and the husband's lawyer.

      Obviously, he should be charged with murder.

    8. Re:Felony murder law by Krater76 · · Score: 1

      It's interesting, I read that little blurb too. It immediately made me think of an episode of 'The Defenders'. Now, I know that it is just TV show but the same thing happened.

      On the show, the defendant was simply driving some friends to a bar. In the bar the friends were shaking down the owner for some money that was owed. The friends didn't know that there were 4 off duty cops in there and one of the friends ends up shot and killed. The argument was that, even though he was outside, the defendant was participating and was thus able to be charge with the murder. His legal counsel argued that no murder actually took place. If what the homeowner did was considered 'justifiable homicide' then no one was actually murdered, therefore there was no crime actually committed (other than the break in) since you can't have a non-murder and a murder to the same person at the same time. This argument was successful on the show, not sure if it is the same in real life.

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    9. Re:Felony murder law by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      >Because the architect wasn't commiting a [felony.]

      Depending on the state, he was. He had a valid defense, but he still committed homicide. There can be some very subtle aspects to self defense. It's a good idea to learn the laws of your state. Some people make the assumption that "homicide is legal" in certain circumstances (self defense, castle doctrine, etc.) but it really is not that simple. You may be able to persuade a grand jury that your actions were defensible, but that's not the same thing as saying that you didn't commit homicide -- you *did* commit homicide, and your circumstances either amount to a statutory defense or else you convinced a grand jury of reasonable peers not to prosecute you.

      I suggest whether you own a firearm or not, you learn how this works in your state. I think it would surprise you how many people are locked up in prison for decades, who didn't understand how the law works when it comes to self-defense.

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    10. Re:Felony murder law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A better example would be a case where a guy committed purgery when, on the stand, when he testified that he was with his wife on the night that his wife's sister was accused of drunk driving. Having told his wife that he was at work, he pisses off his wife so much that she pulls out a gun and shoots the Judge, all members of the Jury, and the husband's lawyer.

      Obviously, he should be charged with murder.

      Wow! Just wow! How *fucked up* your thinking has to be to come up with that? His *wife* shot the people, he didn't. Or are you saying he had some psychic control over her actions??

      And yes, it's exactly the same as in the architect case! The architect designed the house so it could be robbed. Same thinking.

      That law is seriously fucked up.

    11. Re:Felony murder law by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      The parent poster suggested that the architect of the house be charged with homicide because of the law that says you can be charged with homicide if the homicide happens while you are committing a felony. Would you like to explain how the architect was committing a felony? Not the homeowner. Not anyone in the house. The architect of the building. What felony are they committing that would make their actions accountable as homicide in the original posters example?

    12. Re:Felony murder law by Belial6 · · Score: 1

      Obviously, I was being sarcastic in saying the guy should be charged, but that is what the law is saying is the case.

      You are wrong that the architect example is the same thing.

      Purgery example: The man committed a felony (purgery) and someone was murdered in relation to it.

      Architect example: The architect committed no felony and someone was murdered in relation to it.

      Zatar was pointing out that Florida law says you can be charged with homicide if someone dies IN RELATION TO YOU COMMITTING A FELONY. You see the part there where the person that gets unjustly charged has to have committed a felony? That means they have to have committed a felony.

      I'm not sure how to get across that the person that gets unjustly charged must have committed some felony, other than to keep putting the word felony in this post, but your belief that the architect having NOT committed a felony is the same as an example with guy who committed a felony implies that you are not hearing the word felony. So, felony, I will felony, make it, felony, clear that a felony, must have been committed for the, felony, law that says a felony makes you chargeable with, felony, homicide if someone, felony, dies. Felony.

    13. Re:Felony murder law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uh not really, their actions are directly responsible for that other kid dying. they are very much culpable.

      Bullshit.

      The actions of the homeowner are directly responsible for that kid dying, whether he was justified or not isn't the issue.

      But I'm pretty certain with your perspective you wouldn't see reason if it bit you on your insane ass.

    14. Re:Felony murder law by sjames · · Score: 1

      The kid died as a direct result of his own actions.

    15. Re:Felony murder law by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      Your honour, my only crime was pulling the trigger of this gun, I had no intention that it would begin the chain of events that lead to the death of my ex-wife.

  18. Could be worst by TheCarp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is a funny mistake but... you know... at least it was the civilian police, and civilian courts.

    He should be glad his last name isn't El Masri: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El-Masri:

    a German citizen who was kidnapped,[3] flown to Afghanistan, interrogated and allegedly tortured by the CIA for several months as a part of the War on Terror. Afterwards he was released. This extrajudicial detention was apparently due to a misunderstanding that arose concerning the similarity of the spelling of El-Masri's name with the spelling of suspected terrorist al-Masri[4] (the names are spelled the same way when using Arabic script).

    On a related note, a friend of mine recently found he had a warrant for issues that are besides the point. Lets just say, dubious charges of a domestic nature. So, upon finding this out, and verifying it, he drove to a friends place to "lay low" while he calls his lawyer and figures what to do next. The advice he got? Interestingly.... go to the court house in the AM and surrender directly to the court. In this case, that meant he a) looked responsible to the judge b) got it over with quickly and c) denied the police (who had only heard the other side of the story) no chance to "recommend bail".

    In the end, he walked out on his on recognizance. (well, end of the day, if not the story)

    -Steve

    --
    "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
  19. Wanted for murder by Taser · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can empathize with the shock of finding out you're wanted for something this severe that you have absolutely no involvement in. While we lived outside of the US, my brother had his car stolen, so we reported it to the police that very night.

    A couple of weeks later, a magazine notorious for reporting on gory crimes with graphic photos (at the time, everyone joked that "blood leaked out of the magazine if you squeezed it hard enough") had both my brother and myself accused as murderers in a crime that involved the stolen vehicle. It turns out that a receipt they found in the vehicle had my brother's name and my family's phone number. It took a while to determine that the victim was related to the author of the article, and after talking with the police, we were able to clear our names and get a retraction printed.

  20. Eric Schmidt has the answer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just change your name and move on!
    Oh, wait, they used your picture?
    Well, then just change your face and move on!!!

  21. DJDevon3 by djdevon3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While searching for my own name I found out someone in the same town with the same name was sentenced to 50 years in prison. The guy was nailed for possession of about 3 kilo's of cocaine. The intent to distribute was pretty obvious. Let's just say none of my old friends or girlfriends have ever contacted me since.

    Which brings up a nifty scenario if you don't want to be contacted by old girlfriends. Just find a state vs drug dealer affidavit online somewhere, fill in the blanks with you name, create your own legal sounding domain name, and post it. Private reg on the dns is a good idea. This happened to me coincidentally but I was thinking it would work exactly the same if I did it to myself on purpose. It's not illegal to make a hoax directed towards yourself right? It works surprisingly well.

    1. Old hats will not take the trouble to wade through the justice system to find your contact info.
    2. They probably wouldn't want to after reading your affidavit anyway.

    Make social engineering statements in the affidavit to deter old hat resurrection. For female deterrent add things like "hit girlfriend and mother in the face with large bludgeoning tool (baseball bat)". For male deterrent add things like "stabbed neighbor in the testicles with a hunting knife".

    1. Re:DJDevon3 by SheeEttin · · Score: 1

      Might not be a good idea if you're planning on applying for a job anywhere, ever. (Unless you can make it really, really obvious that this false person is securely away for a long time and could not possibly be you.)

  22. Oh Yea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:Oh Yea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Read that more carefully.

      First of all, it's a website called "thenewspaper". Citing their "about us" page: "A journal of the politics of driving". Online journals are also referred to commonly as blogs.
      Second of all, the article doesn't cite any laws that state jaywalking is a felony. It is about prosecutors (the people paid to take people to trial), asking police to arrest mothers, that have children with them, that are jaywalking. Because "Prosecutors believe they can charge offenders with felony child neglect." This is an existing law with a very broad definition (not that I'm arguing against child protection laws).
      Quoting the article:

      "Going in between roadways at night time, especially, in dark clothing with their hands full and having your children -- that raises it to a different level," State Attorney's Office representative Randy Means told WESH-TV News. "That's a very serious charge and that could be charged as a felony."

  23. That'll learn him by wraithguard01 · · Score: 1

    So, the way the article is written, it almost makes it sound like he was accused of murder BECAUSE he googled his name. "...surprised to find out he was wanted for murder after Googling his name."

    1. Re:That'll learn him by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      Or like a Web N.0 thing where sites construct whatever information you're supposed to want to see based on your search.

      --
      -fb Everything not expressly forbidden is now mandatory.
  24. Second Degree Felony Murder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Forget that someone was misidentified...

    Excerpt:
    "Authorities say Murphy and 15-year-old Otilio Rubio broke into a Davenport home Sept. 22. The homeowner shot at them, and Rubio later died from a head wound.
    Under Florida law, individuals involved in a felony resulting in death can be charged with murder. The homeowner was not charged."
    Source: http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=149990&catid=8

    The actual guy they were after wasn't guilty of murder at all; the crime has nothing to do with murder!, someone died but because of a bullshit law stating that a death during a felony means that those committing the felony are held responsible even if they didn't have any weapons, or intent do kill, it was the homeowner that killed the guy!!!

    Damn it people murder is intent to kill, the label is designed to make the prosecutors look like they're dealing justice; this is not justice if you are held responsible for a crime that you did not commit, a massively unjust law.

  25. In other news by quantumRage · · Score: 1
    In other news..

    Garcia and his mother tell us that she is interested in getting all the references on the internet moved from the World Wide Web so nobody gets the wrong idea again.

    I don't think this is really possible to remove the entryes but then again who am I to know.

  26. Immigration office? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Just before emigrating to this country,
    I had a sex-change operation while aboard my U-Boat,
    and I demand Jewish women's rights NOW!"

  27. Mixtape by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

    In August of 2004, the local authorities of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina were called to the apartment of one Joe Smith. Neighbors suspected a suicide.

    But Joe Smith was not dead. He was curled up in a ball in the corner of his room laughing and texting himself on his phone.

    Before Joe Smith was taken into protective custody, he handed a homemade video to the police labeled MY ALMOST SUICIDE.

    This is the transcript of the video.

    Joe Smith "Sometimes I Google Myself" The Dreadful Lonesome Satire Records/Morgantheau Music Group

    It's another lonesome night clouded in satin robes of silence
    And between the nightmare of being awake and being honest there's a haunting glow:
    A digital whore on the designer desk that draws me in
    With a slimline keyboard and its lettered rows.

    Sometimes when I'm alone I Google myself
    Just to see if I'm out there
    Sometimes I like to try and Google myself
    But it's hard to see through my hair

    Advanced searches and other inquiries
    Bring back these secret results, I had no idea who I was
    Apparently I've actually got a lot to live for
    And that's because

    I'm a fairly well known and highly paid NBA basketball star
    I'm also a moderately successful side-arm major league pitcher
    And I'm the founder of Mormonism
    So I guess I'm okay...

    Sometimes when I'm alone I Google myself
    And what comes up is a total surprise
    Sometimes I'm in home alone just Googling myself
    And I can't believe my eyes
    Because my eyes are liars!

    But there it is on the screen are the only thing I trust in this whole world
    And I pray to the absence of God that it's all a lie
    But page after page of my apparent success
    Just makes me want to sit and cry, because

    I'm a star running back in the CFL what the (beep) is this with sports?
    I'm a state politician from Missouri -- okay that sucks pretty bad
    But I'm also a highly respected jazz drummer
    So I guess I'm okay again
    And I don't know what to do with that

    The more I search through the evidence of my accomplished life
    The more I feel like my sadness is a disguise that I've been wearing
    Like the cloth of shepherd's caring and watchful arms
    The Joe Smith that I've spent so much time alone with
    Has been subduing the world
    Like an emperor, plated
    In purple and gold

    Sometimes when I'm alone I Google myself
    Sometimes when I'm alone I Google myself
    Sometimes when I'm alone I Google myself

    Oh my God, is what you're telling me is that I'm all right?
    Oh my God, it can't be as simple as that I'm just all right!
    But I've built my personal security on not all right
    And now I'm okay?
    I don't know how to handle that.

    In four years, Joe Smith has contemplated suicide a further 1,687 times according to Myrtle Beach Clinic records.

    But it's hard to follow through when you are so successful.

    Even by conceptual extensive transference.

    --
    Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
  28. Off topic ... FIX IDLE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When the hell are they going to fix the javascript on idle?
    Its been broken for years now!

  29. It could have been much worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He could have discovered he was dead, but seeing as he was googling he would have then realized he was undead and developing a craving for brains or something.

    Anyhow, as long as law enforcement has fully updated things he should be ok, and not in any real danger of the "dead or alive, we don't really care" approach to arrest.

  30. all I can say is.... good luck! by proudhawk · · Score: 1

    I really know what this kid is going through. back in 1995, I was declared deceased, only I didn't find out until I went in 15 days later to fill a prescription.
    At that point, I found out that my insurance had been canceled, and that the medication I needed would not be filled. This was apparently only the
    tip of the iceberg. within 2 weeks, my bank account was closed, my credit terminated and my SSI gone. it took me three months and a lot
    of pressure from the local news media before social security owned up to the mistake. it was a further year before I could get a bank account
    (the credit reporting databases kept reporting me as deceased).

    here's the real kicker: I happen to be blind.

    sooo, imagine the hellish nightmare this kid was going through. it is comparable to what I went through 15 years ago.

    --
    Understanding is much like a 3-edged-sword. in this: there are always 2 sides and the truth.
  31. He googles himself, you say? by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1

    Obligatory. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFPNL8yoqUM

    Oh, I would totally google her all night.

    --
    WTF am I doing replying to an AC at 5 A.M on a Friday night?
  32. Why don't you look stuff up before making it up? by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 1

    A better example would be a case where a guy committed purgery when, on the stand, when he testified that he was with his wife on the night that his wife's sister was accused of drunk driving. Having told his wife that he was at work, he pisses off his wife so much that she pulls out a gun and shoots the Judge, all members of the Jury, and the husband's lawyer. Obviously, he should be charged with murder.

    Um, criminal codes typically specify that the felony murder rule applies to specific felonies. A typical list is: robbery, rape or forcible deviant sexual intercourse, arson, burglary, felonious escape, terrorism, kidnapping and carjacking. Perjury ain't on any of these lists that I'm aware of.

    There is also a body of legal precedent that lays out guidelines for when the rule applies.

  33. Similar but different situation by djdevon3 · · Score: 1

    In this particular instance it's not an issue due to age and race. Had that not been the case then sure, I might be a little concerned. All employers wanting to hire technicians should do a proper background check instead of the unprofessional results displayed in a google search or worse... social networking sites.

    If an employer didn't hire me because they thought I'm that fictitious other guy because of their own unprofessional methods (a.k.a. stupidity) I'm fine with that... I would only end up unhappy and frustrated by working with stupid people anyway.

  34. nobody but me by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

    I googled myself and found nothing, not even a peep, then i thought of course not, I am not really living life, maybe there is a correlation?

  35. Could have been worse ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... someone could have pissed on his rug.
    ( The Big Lebowski reference )

  36. Just Murder? by andrewagill · · Score: 1

    Why, I was accused of rape *and* murder. As a result, I can never got to Thailand for fear of winding up in a Southeast Asian prison based on mistaken identity.