Slackware posts its changelog on the web. All you need to do is stop by every so often and see what's been updated. Then you download what you want and install it. I suppose if you really want it to flash at you like other distributions, you could jury rig one of those webpage trackers to go "beep" when the page is updated.
Seriously, this illustrates one of the attractive features of Slackware. I don't need to turn over control of my machine to some unknown update script on some unknown server. I install what I choose to install. For example, I compile my own Mozilla rather than installing the version that comes with Slackware. The last thing I want is for some whizbang tool to install its version of Mozilla on top of mine.
If you use the tools it provides, Slackware tracks the packages you install and allows you to cleanly remove or upgrade each package. That's a long way from simply expanding a tar file and installing from source.
Slack doesn't do automatic dependency resolution, which is not at all related to package management. A lot of us are glad it doesn't.
The thing I really like about Slackware is that I can install anything I want without waiting for someone to wrap it up in whatever packaging scheme my distribution uses. Sure, you can do that in any distribution, but the packager and dependency resolver won't know about it.
when I have the time, my favorite way of installing Slackware is to install only the bare minimum, and then build things like X and window managers and apps on top.
Even if a RedHat investor believed what you just said, why would that compel him not to sue if he believed he'd suffered a loss because he believes RedHat did something that is illegal, incompetent, or both.
It's more important to protect the right to seek redress by bringing suit than it is to give some slack to a popular company.
Why shouldn't people sue if they believe RedHat dealt with them illegally? Misstating earnings -- deliberately or through error -- damages their investors.
Or, is/. so populated by ideological weenies that it expects people to forego their own bests interests for the sake of a corporation that just happens to sell Linux?
Flaming someone because you think they've asked a question answered in a FAQ is contradictory. If you're annoyed because you've wasted time reading something you don't need to read, why take even more time to post a flame? Just ignore and move on.
Of course, the answer isn't always in the FAQ, is it?
...is a European standard any more "global" than a U.S. standard? I thought Europeans had gotten rid of all that colonial baggage?
In any case, why should anyone, anywhere, have an obligation to pay any attention to the directives of an organization comprised of members for whom they could not vote?
"Better" is in the ear of the listener, of course. but, yeah, the "louder is better" argument has been going on for decades.
The answer: Louder is better until the sound is distorted or your ears hurt.
The above does not apply to people who configure sound in their car to play at 120 decibels using the pavement to help modulate the bass. Those folks are after an entirely different sensory experience.
Geez, give me a break, ok? People are more important than animals. They'd kill us if that meant they'd survive. Why should we endanger ourselves just to keep some fish happy?
I'm sick to death of people who are ashamed of being human.
Don't be such a Puritanical prig. It's not a reflection of society, much less a "sad indictment". Not everyone agrees that corporations are evil or that the legislated preservation of uneconomic but quaint shops and neighborhoods for the entertainment of the upper classes is useful.
Give this guy and the rest of us a break, OK? Now, go back to working on your dream of making us all faceless and rule-obeying drones. You know, like we see in bad science fiction movies: The whole world looks like Marin County; everyone has blonde hair and blue eyes and rides a bike; everyone wears white robes and does what they're told and is oh-so happy.
Check back after you actually been on someone's payroll for a day or two. (Although that may take some time if you follow your own advice and demand an MS-free workplace.)
Trust me on this: The corporate world doesn't care that Linux is "free".
This isn't a case of "a government agency telling us all how to safely operate a private company's product". If you'd read the NIST report, you would realize that it is aimed at that community. It's no surprise that it is available. Contrary to popular opinion, most everything the government publishes is available to the public. Not necessarily distributed, but available.
The government lives on Windows, like everyone else. Still, if you'd read the report, you'd notice it does address security issues in apps like Mozilla, Firefox and Netscape.
A commercial and easily pirated product is not being "antagonistic" if it requires a product key. The fact that Windows does this is more of a commentary on the ethics of too many people than it is on the obtuseness of MS. If Torvalds had decided to sell Linux, odds are it would need a product key, too. One approach is no more or less correct than the other.
You wouldn't install a 4-year old Linux. You'd install a current distribution that incorporates all the security patches that have been issued in the last 4 years. And you would still need to install all the patches issued after that distribution hit the streets. It's a simple equation. All that whining about security updates when installing XP from an original CD was deliberate posturing.
Re: drivers -- Yes, a CD pressed today can contain new drivers than a CD pressed yesterday, or last year, or 4 years ago. Whining that an original XP CD doesn't have drivers for hardware manufactured after the CD was made is childish.
The piece was simply an exercise in willful FUD and dilettantism.
It's his fault that he can't keep track of his product key. Windows isn't the only product -- software or otherwise -- that wants a serial number before it works.
It's his fault that he wasn't clueful enough to add SP1 and the usual horde of updates before he started mucking about. (Not that anyone installing a 4-year old version of any Linux distribution wouldn't also need to install a horde of security updates.)
And, it's his fault for trying to use old drivers to get his net connection working.
Why do you want to teach programming to kids who may not live in a house with electricity. Who may not live in a house. period.
This laptop will almost certainly be used, if it is used at all, by the person who swipes it before it gets where it is supposed to go.
If you want to be useful, contact some people in Uganda and ask them what they want their kids to learn. People in Africa usually don't have much money, but they are at least as smart as the rest of us.
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Slackware posts its changelog on the web. All you need to do is stop by every so often and see what's been updated. Then you download what you want and install it. I suppose if you really want it to flash at you like other distributions, you could jury rig one of those webpage trackers to go "beep" when the page is updated.
Seriously, this illustrates one of the attractive features of Slackware. I don't need to turn over control of my machine to some unknown update script on some unknown server. I install what I choose to install. For example, I compile my own Mozilla rather than installing the version that comes with Slackware. The last thing I want is for some whizbang tool to install its version of Mozilla on top of mine.
If you use the tools it provides, Slackware tracks the packages you install and allows you to cleanly remove or upgrade each package. That's a long way from simply expanding a tar file and installing from source.
Slack doesn't do automatic dependency resolution, which is not at all related to package management. A lot of us are glad it doesn't.
Package management is not dependency resolution. Stop displaying your ignorance.
Some of us don't like letting a script we didn't write decide what gets on our machines.
Geez, Slackware has a package manager. It doesn't have automatic dependency resolution.
Pay attention.
The worst thing about installing Gentoo is waiting 15 hours to find out you screwed up.
Install from source.
The thing I really like about Slackware is that I can install anything I want without waiting for someone to wrap it up in whatever packaging scheme my distribution uses. Sure, you can do that in any distribution, but the packager and dependency resolver won't know about it.
when I have the time, my favorite way of installing Slackware is to install only the bare minimum, and then build things like X and window managers and apps on top.
Not sure what you mean by "free", but Patrick V. has been selling Slackware online for quite some time. It would be nice if people actually bought it.
I once installed OS/2 on a 12-meg Toshiba 386-SX laptop using more than 40 diskettes. Didn't last long.
Even if a RedHat investor believed what you just said, why would that compel him not to sue if he believed he'd suffered a loss because he believes RedHat did something that is illegal, incompetent, or both.
It's more important to protect the right to seek redress by bringing suit than it is to give some slack to a popular company.
Nice slur.
/. care if RedHat sold groceries, not Linux?
/. so populated by ideological weenies that it expects people to forego their own bests interests for the sake of a corporation that just happens to sell Linux?
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Why shouldn't people sue if they believe RedHat dealt with them illegally? Misstating earnings -- deliberately or through error -- damages their investors.
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Flaming someone because you think they've asked a question answered in a FAQ is contradictory. If you're annoyed because you've wasted time reading something you don't need to read, why take even more time to post a flame? Just ignore and move on.
Of course, the answer isn't always in the FAQ, is it?
...is a European standard any more "global" than a U.S. standard? I thought Europeans had gotten rid of all that colonial baggage?
In any case, why should anyone, anywhere, have an obligation to pay any attention to the directives of an organization comprised of members for whom they could not vote?
"Better" is in the ear of the listener, of course. but, yeah, the "louder is better" argument has been going on for decades.
The answer: Louder is better until the sound is distorted or your ears hurt.
The above does not apply to people who configure sound in their car to play at 120 decibels using the pavement to help modulate the bass. Those folks are after an entirely different sensory experience.
No troll. I meant it.
Give a choice between the welfare of people and the welfare of animals, why choose animals? Would they sacrifice themselves to protect us?
It's wrong to think of humans as anomalies in an otherwise pure and pristine natural setting.
>>"...no threat to wildlife (har har)"
Geez, give me a break, ok? People are more important than animals. They'd kill us if that meant they'd survive. Why should we endanger ourselves just to keep some fish happy?
I'm sick to death of people who are ashamed of being human.
First, 99 percent of the population has never heard of ARM.
Second, this industry naturally tends toward monopolies or small, cooperative, oligopolies.
Because the audience can see the Romulans doesn't mean the Earthlings will.
Perhaps they'll tell the story from the Romulan point of view. Now, that would be a change.
More realistically, fighting an enemy you can't see is a pretty good dramatic device.
Don't be such a Puritanical prig. It's not a reflection of society, much less a "sad indictment". Not everyone agrees that corporations are evil or that the legislated preservation of uneconomic but quaint shops and neighborhoods for the entertainment of the upper classes is useful.
Give this guy and the rest of us a break, OK? Now, go back to working on your dream of making us all faceless and rule-obeying drones. You know, like we see in bad science fiction movies: The whole world looks like Marin County; everyone has blonde hair and blue eyes and rides a bike; everyone wears white robes and does what they're told and is oh-so happy.
Geez, what planet are you on?
Check back after you actually been on someone's payroll for a day or two. (Although that may take some time if you follow your own advice and demand an MS-free workplace.)
Trust me on this: The corporate world doesn't care that Linux is "free".
This isn't a case of "a government agency telling us all how to safely operate a private company's product". If you'd read the NIST report, you would realize that it is aimed at that community. It's no surprise that it is available. Contrary to popular opinion, most everything the government publishes is available to the public. Not necessarily distributed, but available.
The government lives on Windows, like everyone else. Still, if you'd read the report, you'd notice it does address security issues in apps like Mozilla, Firefox and Netscape.
A commercial and easily pirated product is not being "antagonistic" if it requires a product key. The fact that Windows does this is more of a commentary on the ethics of too many people than it is on the obtuseness of MS. If Torvalds had decided to sell Linux, odds are it would need a product key, too. One approach is no more or less correct than the other.
You wouldn't install a 4-year old Linux. You'd install a current distribution that incorporates all the security patches that have been issued in the last 4 years. And you would still need to install all the patches issued after that distribution hit the streets. It's a simple equation. All that whining about security updates when installing XP from an original CD was deliberate posturing.
Re: drivers -- Yes, a CD pressed today can contain new drivers than a CD pressed yesterday, or last year, or 4 years ago. Whining that an original XP CD doesn't have drivers for hardware manufactured after the CD was made is childish.
The piece was simply an exercise in willful FUD and dilettantism.
Of course not. /. fans lack the attention span to read anything that takes up more room than an 80x24 box.
Pilgrim bitches too much.
It's his fault that he can't keep track of his product key. Windows isn't the only product -- software or otherwise -- that wants a serial number before it works.
It's his fault that he wasn't clueful enough to add SP1 and the usual horde of updates before he started mucking about. (Not that anyone installing a 4-year old version of any Linux distribution wouldn't also need to install a horde of security updates.)
And, it's his fault for trying to use old drivers to get his net connection working.
Why do you want to teach programming to kids who may not live in a house with electricity. Who may not live in a house. period.
This laptop will almost certainly be used, if it is used at all, by the person who swipes it before it gets where it is supposed to go.
If you want to be useful, contact some people in Uganda and ask them what they want their kids to learn. People in Africa usually don't have much money, but they are at least as smart as the rest of us.
...heh.