> As you will see, in 1999, the UK past France
> with respect to GDP.
No. Please think about it for a second and show us that the average British citizen is less nationalist and also smarter than the average British populist politician or journalist, who jumped on this statistical trick and screamed "hey, we've got a bigger one than the froggies!".
It's only a matter of currency exchange rate, the Euro being undervalued these days. You need to compare at purchasing power parity when you do this kind of stuff. Think about it for a minute: in 1999, economic growth in France has been faster than in the UK. So, how could the UK suddenly become a bigger economy, while growing more slowly?
When the Pound/Euro rate will have stabilized to a more reasonable level, the British economy will be between 10 and 15% smaller than the French one. Let me also remind you that, a few years ago, when the British pound was undervalued with respect to te Italian Lira, well, according to your method of calculation, UK would have been behind Italy. I don't recall any British saying that the UK had become the 6th economy of the world...
Actually the European comission is very efficient on monopoly-related issues and is enforcing most European countries to endorse more competition-friendly practices (in other words, to forget national pride when it comes to economy). And these days, the most economically nationalist country among the rich ones is not in Europe. It's the US.
Now, I know it's very fashionable these days to describe the EU institutions as a bunch of inefficient technocrats. In some cases, this is very true, especially when it comes to agriculture and most food-related issues. Yet, on many economic and institutional issues, these oh-so-lame bureaucrats are simply bringing a lot of rational changes that the average citizen in your (very nice) country as well as in mine will benefit from.
Well, dear Coward, if you were only slightly more knowledgeable about economy, capitalism, American/European differences, etc..., you would certainly know that the Wall Street Journal is a very poor newspaper made for economically clueless people who can only understand a vulgarized and populist vision of economy. Or for people who only seek numeric facts before they buy or sell stocks.
As for Finland, let me say that its economic performances are simply excellent, and its system is overall very efficient on most "societal" issues. Its recovery from the great recession due to the collapse of USSR (which was its main export partner) is spectacular. Its GDP/inhabitant is reasonably high, but actually understates the prosperity of the average Finn guy, since the level of inequalities is much lower than in that other country which thinks of itself as the ultimate universal model (do I need to name it?). In other words, the vast majority of the wealth is not in the hand of a very few, so the median income is not ridiculously low as compared to the average income. Do I also have to mention that even the poorest Finn men have access to an excellent education, an excellent health coverage, and a very reliable retirement system?
My 1st computer was an Apple II+. A few months after I got it, a friend of mine showed me "Wizardry".
The scenario was simple: make a team of six guys with different characteristics, send them in a huge labyrinth full of monsters, see your team improve as you're getting further and further in he labyrinth, and discover -after months of day-to-day playing- what your actual mission is, and, after several more months, complete the mission. The graphics were minimal, but just right.
I had fun with this game at least one or two hours per day, during more than one year. I was twelve or thirteen. I finally finished it. And a few weeks later, a burglar took my Apple II away (which was already obsolete, so probably not worth much).
Since them, I have never, ever found a game that provided me with such excitement. Of course, there has been a few great innovative things since them: Wolfenstein 3D, Myth, Prince of Persia... But nothing has come close to that almost text-based game running on 6502 with 48k RAM.
Re:Related: revised story of microcomputers
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Err, the "story" is written, not the computer.
Related: revised story of microcomputers
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Rebuilding Colossus
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In a similar spirit, here's an extract of a story of microcomputers written by a Belgian guy.
1973: First French microcomputer of the world.
1974: First microcomputer of the world (the reader is kindly reminded that only the realizations from the USA are allowed to compete).
No commercial scientific software for Linux/Sparc
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I think the main problem of Linux on Sparc is that it suffers a big handicap on the workstation market, which is the lack of commercial scientific software.
It is little surprise that Linux is not that big on the Sparc servers market. These machines are often big SMP machines, used in a critical production environment, with SUN's tech support, etc... So these machines stay under Solaris. This may not be technically justified, but that's just the way it is.
Yet, one could have expected a greater success of Linux on Sun workstations. The problem is that most ubiquitous scientific softwares, such as Matlab or Maple, are simply unavailable. This is also the case for image processing software, 3D technical software, etc... Most of these softwares have their own language, and every user has its code written specifically for it, are in a position that is close to monopoly, and as such are mandatory.
How come that all these pro-big business integrists always have an irrational problem with France? Leave us alone, please. Stop insulting us. Stop offending us. Keep your system, if you like it. But forget us, for god's sake.
> In France, like in most european countries,
> the president is not very powerful.
> He is not the head of governement.
Actually, since 1958 (5th republic), the French president is very powerful, more than in the US, when the parliament and thus the governement is on the same side as he is. In this case, his powers are superior to those of the prime minister. This is a "Gaullist" thing.
When the parliament and the government are on the other side, as it is currently the case (prime minister Jospin is socialist, president Chirac is right-wing) then, true, his powers are mostly restricted to international policy (including European policy, so this matters), but he is basically impotent on internal affairs.
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> the higher end colbalt servers aren't x86
> though.. i *think* they are mips based. only the
> low end cobalt's are x86.
Actually they _were_ Mips-based, but Cobalt has announced in october 1999 that they were dropping Mips for x86. Its whole line is migrating progressively. This decision essensially boiled down to the wider availability of Linux software for x86 compared to Mips.
Well, FYI, French corporations have no problems of competitivity, the trade balance is highly positive, and exports are going just fine. In the meanwhile, true, people work 35 hours a week IF THEY DON'T WANT TO WORK MORE, or, depending on the company, work 39 hours but have eight of nine weeks of holidays per year. Once again, that's only if you don't want to do more. Except that, this time, the employee is the one who makes the choice, not the boss.
And guess what? It's god damn cool. Many people are getting a better family life. Others can concentrate more time on their hobbies. Women especially are extremely pleased with this system. And even companies actually found that, at the end of the day, this reform was positive for them, because it was accompanied by a significant gain in flexibility.
The kernel is not what matters, Darwin is just yet another BSD implementation, somehow comparable with NetBSD and FreeBSD. What makes OS X special is exactly what is not libre software, so, no, this won't be availbale on x86. Apple is here to sell hardware, after all.
This is just a copy/paste of
this American page, or any other one, since this text is widely available on the web. Probably because this guy has a problem with the French, and anything goes to degrade their image. Of course, several francophobic morons are reacting exactly as expected.
Good, you're a l33t h4x0r who knows that shared memory matters. Congrats. Now, learn how to read, and you'll be omniscient. 2 posts earlier, in this same thread, I've written this:
"Make sure that the part of shared memory is of the same order for Gnome and KDE, which is usually the case."
I don't know the ps option that displays the amount of shared memory. To have this, I use top, qps, gtop, ktop, kpm, whatever. But ps has the advantage of providing a still output, easier to redirect.
> It is hard to make a strong footprint argument
> without real numbers.
I'm waiting for KDE 2 to be stable to make a fair comparison. I've already made one between Gnome 1.2 (Helix) and KDE 1.1.2. It's in French (no time to translate), but numbers don't care. Also, as mentioned before, if you type "free", you'll see that a typical vanilla KDE session takes 9-10 megs more than a Gnome Session. As for the apps:
Editeurs:
[kalifa@wave kalifa]$ ps ux
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
kalifa 15235 0.4 0.6 7264 5112 pts/0 S 11:32 0:00 kedit
kalifa 15236 0.5 0.6 7284 5008 pts/0 S 11:32 0:00 kwrite
kalifa 15238 0.6 0.3 4216 2608 pts/0 S 11:33 0:00 gxedit
kalifa 15239 3.8 0.4 5800 3676 pts/0 S 11:33 0:00 gedit
Gedit et GXedit sont pourtant fonctionnellement plus riches que kedit
et kwrite (surtout kedit, il est monstrueux sachant qu'il ne fait a
peu pres rien).
Visus postscripts :
[kalifa@wave kalifa]$ ps ux
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
kalifa 15273 0.7 0.4 5604 3424 pts/0 S 11:35 0:00 ggv
kalifa 15274 5.2 0.6 7256 5084 pts/0 S 11:35 0:00 kghostview
Visus images :
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
kalifa 15285 2.2 0.4 6272 3760 pts/0 S 11:39 0:00 ee
kalifa 15281 0.5 0.4 6672 3348 pts/0 S 11:38 0:00 eog
kalifa 15282 2.1 0.6 7648 4984 pts/0 S 11:38 0:00 kview
On peut remarquer que les outils bureautiques de Gnome sont de taille assez raisonnables (add-on: current kspread and kword are typically 12-13 megs in RSS just after startup...):
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
kalifa 15328 1.7 0.6 8452 5420 pts/0 S 11:50 0:00 gnumeric
kalifa 15329 0.0 0.1 1676 840 pts/0 S 11:50 0:00 sh abiword
kalifa 15331 2.5 0.6 7444 5260 pts/0 S 11:50 0:00 AbiWord_d
Aide hypertexte :
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
kalifa 15340 0.3 0.7 8804 6068 pts/0 S 11:53 0:00 kdehelp
kalifa 15387 5.5 0.7 8300 5456 pts/0 S 11:55 0:00 gnome-help-browser
Configuration :
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
kalifa 15394 1.1 0.4 6080 3728 pts/0 S 11:56 0:00 gnomecc
kalifa 15397 3.3 0.6 6872 4852 pts/0 S 11:57 0:00 kcontrol
> Yes, but I've noticed that KDE eats less memory
> per app. I *really* looked into this because of
> a memory leak in a beta of 2.0...
I really don't think so. I'm sort of a nevrotic obsessional when it comes to memory footprint, and I lose much of my time measuring everything. I compare with ps, top, or others. Just take the RSS (and make sure that the part of shared memory is of the same order for Gnome and KDE, which is usually the case). I repeat: the resident sizes of KDE apps are usually 30 or 40% bigger than their Gnome counterparts with equivalent functionnalities. And, as mentioned before, the session in itself is outrageously bigger (which I personnally don't care about, since I don't run Gnome or KDE sessions, just apps).
>> KParts seems to work pretty well, yet it's just >> a smart ad hoc and proprietary hack.
>
> Bzzzt. [...] Linux is a "smart ad hoc and
> proprietary hack". So is the GPL, Bonobo [...]
Bonobo is designed to be much less proprietary and more opened than Kparts. The reason why KDE developpers are talking about Bonoboizing their apps instead of the opposite (Kpartizing Gnome apps) are technical, not political.
I wholly agree with his comments on the "benefits" of big corporates, and with his worries on PR distorsions.
However, his statement on KDE superiority is far more questionable, and this also holds for KDE 2.
Two technical and childish "details", yet at the end of the day, this is what really matters:
- Gnome is fundamentally slicker than KDE. When you start an Helix Gnome session, and type "free", you simply have 9 or 10 more free megs than when you start a KDE session (1.1.2 or pre 2.0), for similar functionnalities. Free software was supposed to bring "obsolete machines" back to life, or at least to slower the rythm of obsolescence. So, yes, this matters. The situation is similar when it comes to speed. Besides, most Gnome apps are significantly smaller than their KDE counterparts, whether we're talking about spreadsheets, text editors, bitmap graphics software, vectorial graphics software, ps viewer, image visualizers, word processors, config tools, help tools, etc... In average, a Gnome/Gtk tool is ~30-40% smaller than its KDE/Qt counterpart. Let me remind you that one of the main reasons why KDE dropped Corba was performance issues... talking about this:
- KParts seems to work pretty well, yet it's just a smart ad hoc and proprietary hack. Roughly, it replicates OLE/COM. Bonobo is about to succeed where Opendoc failed, and this time it is really about "components", not just bloatwares with an ability to communicate with other bloatwares. I think most KDE developpers know this, actually.
I won't tak about Gtk+ and Qt, yet there's also a lot to say about this.
First, he wasn't. Second (what follows is a common European point of view), if he had been, it would have been on a non-subject, and on a question he should never have been asked. This kind of privacy must be respected whether you're John Doe or the president of the USA, period.
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> As you will see, in 1999, the UK past France
> with respect to GDP.
No. Please think about it for a second and show us that the average British citizen is less nationalist and also smarter than the average British populist politician or journalist, who jumped on this statistical trick and screamed "hey, we've got a bigger one than the froggies!".
It's only a matter of currency exchange rate, the Euro being undervalued these days. You need to compare at purchasing power parity when you do this kind of stuff. Think about it for a minute: in 1999, economic growth in France has been faster than in the UK. So, how could the UK suddenly become a bigger economy, while growing more slowly?
When the Pound/Euro rate will have stabilized to a more reasonable level, the British economy will be between 10 and 15% smaller than the French one. Let me also remind you that, a few years ago, when the British pound was undervalued with respect to te Italian Lira, well, according to your method of calculation, UK would have been behind Italy. I don't recall any British saying that the UK had become the 6th economy of the world...
Actually the European comission is very efficient on monopoly-related issues and is enforcing most European countries to endorse more competition-friendly practices (in other words, to forget national pride when it comes to economy). And these days, the most economically nationalist country among the rich ones is not in Europe. It's the US.
Now, I know it's very fashionable these days to describe the EU institutions as a bunch of inefficient technocrats. In some cases, this is very true, especially when it comes to agriculture and most food-related issues. Yet, on many economic and institutional issues, these oh-so-lame bureaucrats are simply bringing a lot of rational changes that the average citizen in your (very nice) country as well as in mine will benefit from.
Well, dear Coward, if you were only slightly more knowledgeable about economy, capitalism, American/European differences, etc..., you would certainly know that the Wall Street Journal is a very poor newspaper made for economically clueless people who can only understand a vulgarized and populist vision of economy. Or for people who only seek numeric facts before they buy or sell stocks.
As for Finland, let me say that its economic performances are simply excellent, and its system is overall very efficient on most "societal" issues. Its recovery from the great recession due to the collapse of USSR (which was its main export partner) is spectacular. Its GDP/inhabitant is reasonably high, but actually understates the prosperity of the average Finn guy, since the level of inequalities is much lower than in that other country which thinks of itself as the ultimate universal model (do I need to name it?). In other words, the vast majority of the wealth is not in the hand of a very few, so the median income is not ridiculously low as compared to the average income. Do I also have to mention that even the poorest Finn men have access to an excellent education, an excellent health coverage, and a very reliable retirement system?
PS: I'm not Finn, I'm French.
> OpenOffice 6.05 takes a good 18 hours to compile :)
> on a 500Mhz win32 box, according to
> openoffice.org. Yikes
Yup. Thanks to the joint efforts of OpenOffice, Mozilla, and a few others, Emacs officially entered the category of lightweight utilities.
Never been so high with a /.ted download site...
My 1st computer was an Apple II+. A few months after I got it, a friend of mine showed me "Wizardry".
The scenario was simple: make a team of six guys with different characteristics, send them in a huge labyrinth full of monsters, see your team improve as you're getting further and further in he labyrinth, and discover -after months of day-to-day playing- what your actual mission is, and, after several more months, complete the mission. The graphics were minimal, but just right.
I had fun with this game at least one or two hours per day, during more than one year. I was twelve or thirteen. I finally finished it. And a few weeks later, a burglar took my Apple II away (which was already obsolete, so probably not worth much).
Since them, I have never, ever found a game that provided me with such excitement. Of course, there has been a few great innovative things since them: Wolfenstein 3D, Myth, Prince of Persia... But nothing has come close to that almost text-based game running on 6502 with 48k RAM.
Err, the "story" is written, not the computer.
In a similar spirit, here's an extract of a story of microcomputers written by a Belgian guy.
1973: First French microcomputer of the world.
1974: First microcomputer of the world (the reader is kindly reminded that only the realizations from the USA are allowed to compete).
I think the main problem of Linux on Sparc is that it suffers a big handicap on the workstation market, which is the lack of commercial scientific software.
It is little surprise that Linux is not that big on the Sparc servers market. These machines are often big SMP machines, used in a critical production environment, with SUN's tech support, etc... So these machines stay under Solaris. This may not be technically justified, but that's just the way it is.
Yet, one could have expected a greater success of Linux on Sun workstations. The problem is that most ubiquitous scientific softwares, such as Matlab or Maple, are simply unavailable. This is also the case for image processing software, 3D technical software, etc... Most of these softwares have their own language, and every user has its code written specifically for it, are in a position that is close to monopoly, and as such are mandatory.
How come that all these pro-big business integrists always have an irrational problem with France? Leave us alone, please. Stop insulting us. Stop offending us. Keep your system, if you like it. But forget us, for god's sake.
> In France, like in most european countries,
> the president is not very powerful.
> He is not the head of governement.
Actually, since 1958 (5th republic), the French president is very powerful, more than in the US, when the parliament and thus the governement is on the same side as he is. In this case, his powers are superior to those of the prime minister. This is a "Gaullist" thing.
When the parliament and the government are on the other side, as it is currently the case (prime minister Jospin is socialist, president Chirac is right-wing) then, true, his powers are mostly restricted to international policy (including European policy, so this matters), but he is basically impotent on internal affairs.
> the higher end colbalt servers aren't x86
> though.. i *think* they are mips based. only the
> low end cobalt's are x86.
Actually they _were_ Mips-based, but Cobalt has announced in october 1999 that they were dropping Mips for x86. Its whole line is migrating progressively. This decision essensially boiled down to the wider availability of Linux software for x86 compared to Mips.
> anything France has done in this century
Would you please be kind enough to elaborate on that? Thanks in advance.
The page mentions "release of KDE 2.0 ("Kopernicus") scheduled for early-fourth quarter 2000."
Which probably means sometimes between October, 1st and november, 15th.
Well, FYI, French corporations have no problems of competitivity, the trade balance is highly positive, and exports are going just fine. In the meanwhile, true, people work 35 hours a week IF THEY DON'T WANT TO WORK MORE, or, depending on the company, work 39 hours but have eight of nine weeks of holidays per year. Once again, that's only if you don't want to do more. Except that, this time, the employee is the one who makes the choice, not the boss.
And guess what? It's god damn cool. Many people are getting a better family life. Others can concentrate more time on their hobbies. Women especially are extremely pleased with this system. And even companies actually found that, at the end of the day, this reform was positive for them, because it was accompanied by a significant gain in flexibility.
The kernel is not what matters, Darwin is just yet another BSD implementation, somehow comparable with NetBSD and FreeBSD. What makes OS X special is exactly what is not libre software, so, no, this won't be availbale on x86. Apple is here to sell hardware, after all.
It was not 50 varieties of soft cheese, but more than 800. Now it's probably above 1000.
This is just a copy/paste of this American page, or any other one, since this text is widely available on the web. Probably because this guy has a problem with the French, and anything goes to degrade their image. Of course, several francophobic morons are reacting exactly as expected.
Ok, you're a troll, I should have known from the start. BTW, I did read ps's man page, and the answer is not in it.
Good, you're a l33t h4x0r who knows that shared memory matters. Congrats. Now, learn how to read, and you'll be omniscient. 2 posts earlier, in this same thread, I've written this:
"Make sure that the part of shared memory is of the same order for Gnome and KDE, which is usually the case."
I don't know the ps option that displays the amount of shared memory. To have this, I use top, qps, gtop, ktop, kpm, whatever. But ps has the advantage of providing a still output, easier to redirect.
> It is hard to make a strong footprint argument
> without real numbers.
I'm waiting for KDE 2 to be stable to make a fair comparison. I've already made one between Gnome 1.2 (Helix) and KDE 1.1.2. It's in French (no time to translate), but numbers don't care. Also, as mentioned before, if you type "free", you'll see that a typical vanilla KDE session takes 9-10 megs more than a Gnome Session. As for the apps:
Editeurs:
[kalifa@wave kalifa]$ ps ux
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
kalifa 15235 0.4 0.6 7264 5112 pts/0 S 11:32 0:00 kedit
kalifa 15236 0.5 0.6 7284 5008 pts/0 S 11:32 0:00 kwrite
kalifa 15238 0.6 0.3 4216 2608 pts/0 S 11:33 0:00 gxedit
kalifa 15239 3.8 0.4 5800 3676 pts/0 S 11:33 0:00 gedit
Gedit et GXedit sont pourtant fonctionnellement plus riches que kedit
et kwrite (surtout kedit, il est monstrueux sachant qu'il ne fait a
peu pres rien).
Visus postscripts :
[kalifa@wave kalifa]$ ps ux
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
kalifa 15273 0.7 0.4 5604 3424 pts/0 S 11:35 0:00 ggv
kalifa 15274 5.2 0.6 7256 5084 pts/0 S 11:35 0:00 kghostview
Visus images :
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
kalifa 15285 2.2 0.4 6272 3760 pts/0 S 11:39 0:00 ee
kalifa 15281 0.5 0.4 6672 3348 pts/0 S 11:38 0:00 eog
kalifa 15282 2.1 0.6 7648 4984 pts/0 S 11:38 0:00 kview
On peut remarquer que les outils bureautiques de Gnome sont de taille assez raisonnables (add-on: current kspread and kword are typically 12-13 megs in RSS just after startup...):
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
kalifa 15328 1.7 0.6 8452 5420 pts/0 S 11:50 0:00 gnumeric
kalifa 15329 0.0 0.1 1676 840 pts/0 S 11:50 0:00 sh abiword
kalifa 15331 2.5 0.6 7444 5260 pts/0 S 11:50 0:00 AbiWord_d
Aide hypertexte :
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
kalifa 15340 0.3 0.7 8804 6068 pts/0 S 11:53 0:00 kdehelp
kalifa 15387 5.5 0.7 8300 5456 pts/0 S 11:55 0:00 gnome-help-browser
Configuration :
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
kalifa 15394 1.1 0.4 6080 3728 pts/0 S 11:56 0:00 gnomecc
kalifa 15397 3.3 0.6 6872 4852 pts/0 S 11:57 0:00 kcontrol
And so on (try with Dia, Gtop/Ktop, etc...)
> Yes, but I've noticed that KDE eats less memory
> per app. I *really* looked into this because of
> a memory leak in a beta of 2.0...
I really don't think so. I'm sort of a nevrotic obsessional when it comes to memory footprint, and I lose much of my time measuring everything. I compare with ps, top, or others. Just take the RSS (and make sure that the part of shared memory is of the same order for Gnome and KDE, which is usually the case). I repeat: the resident sizes of KDE apps are usually 30 or 40% bigger than their Gnome counterparts with equivalent functionnalities. And, as mentioned before, the session in itself is outrageously bigger (which I personnally don't care about, since I don't run Gnome or KDE sessions, just apps).
>> KParts seems to work pretty well, yet it's just >> a smart ad hoc and proprietary hack.
>
> Bzzzt. [...] Linux is a "smart ad hoc and
> proprietary hack". So is the GPL, Bonobo [...]
Bonobo is designed to be much less proprietary and more opened than Kparts. The reason why KDE developpers are talking about Bonoboizing their apps instead of the opposite (Kpartizing Gnome apps) are technical, not political.
I wholly agree with his comments on the "benefits" of big corporates, and with his worries on PR distorsions.
However, his statement on KDE superiority is far more questionable, and this also holds for KDE 2.
Two technical and childish "details", yet at the end of the day, this is what really matters:
- Gnome is fundamentally slicker than KDE. When you start an Helix Gnome session, and type "free", you simply have 9 or 10 more free megs than when you start a KDE session (1.1.2 or pre 2.0), for similar functionnalities. Free software was supposed to bring "obsolete machines" back to life, or at least to slower the rythm of obsolescence. So, yes, this matters. The situation is similar when it comes to speed. Besides, most Gnome apps are significantly smaller than their KDE counterparts, whether we're talking about spreadsheets, text editors, bitmap graphics software, vectorial graphics software, ps viewer, image visualizers, word processors, config tools, help tools, etc... In average, a Gnome/Gtk tool is ~30-40% smaller than its KDE/Qt counterpart. Let me remind you that one of the main reasons why KDE dropped Corba was performance issues... talking about this:
- KParts seems to work pretty well, yet it's just a smart ad hoc and proprietary hack. Roughly, it replicates OLE/COM. Bonobo is about to succeed where Opendoc failed, and this time it is really about "components", not just bloatwares with an ability to communicate with other bloatwares. I think most KDE developpers know this, actually.
I won't tak about Gtk+ and Qt, yet there's also a lot to say about this.
> just ask a french heugonaut
It's "Huguenot" (which basically means "protestant").
> Clinton was convicted of perjury.
First, he wasn't. Second (what follows is a common European point of view), if he had been, it would have been on a non-subject, and on a question he should never have been asked. This kind of privacy must be respected whether you're John Doe or the president of the USA, period.