I don't understand why M$ bothers with PR like this. Lying in PR stories may be good for dealing with marketers and advertisers, but marketers and advertisers don't care if Windows CE is open sourced. PR stories without backing will have little effect on developers, who are the only people who would really care about or (dare I say) benefit from opening the source.
And communism is going to take over the world right after Russia nukes the United States, and the world will run out of oil just as the last remaining bits of the ozone layer and tropical rainforests are destroyed, until finally aliens with their laser beams and force fields enslave mankind.
Seriously though, Windows users are used to getting binaries only. Linux users are used to getting source code. If someone gave me a binary with no source for Linux, I would immediately become suspicious. This combined with the fact that pine doesn't run arbitrary executables (Outlook not so good) should at least raise the bar for the skill of virii writers.
It sounds extremely ridiculous that you are comparing the law to software.
If you use software wrong, whether it be accidentally or intentionally, the worst thing that happens is you end up running Windows.
If you disobey the law, whether it be accidentally or intentionally, you could be fined, sent to prison, or if you live in Texas or Florida, you will probably get the chair. Hardly just an inconvenience.
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
I would sacrifice my right to anonymity and even my right to privacy as long as every single person in the country was forced to do the same. That means every CEO, every lawyer, every politician, and every police officer. I would gladly allow anyone to look at every transaction in my bank account if I could do the same for every US Congressman.
However, I will not put up with a half-assed job of it where maybe you can pay a "fee" and keep your anonymity so that only the rich can afford it.
Throughout history, anonymity has been a tool of corruption and theft, not one of bravery.
Do you know who John Hancock is? There's a reason for that, and it isn't anonymity.
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
Free speech does not require anonymity, it requires courage. Regardless of how much someone tracks you and how much garbage they feed you through the mass media, freedom comes from within. If you are relying on other people to "allow" you to be free, then you are not free.
Example:
"We the people of the United States..." -- Anonymous
"I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed..." -- Anonymous
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
This article doesn't really have much detail on their project, but I know that Lockheed Martin has been working on a whole vehicle for delivering things into "outer space".
It's called the X-33 Reusable Launch Vehicle (RLV) and information is available here. This page is slightly out of date, but it has more technical detail than that article.
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
If Bezos wants to patent such ideas so that his competitors cannot patent them first, he is making a mockery of the whole patent system. The patent system is a way of protecting an innovation so that its inventor can reap the financial benefits. It's easy to say that he should win through direct market competition, but that's only because Amazon is as big as it is. If I came up with some novel idea and tried to base a company around it, without any sort of patent protection, any other company with more money and market force could steal my idea and run me out of business in a week.
With that said, I think Bezos and Amazon should use this opportunity to point out the obvious flaws in the patent system as it applies to the software/web industry. My radical idea: allow patents on anything at all, but do not allow individuals and other non-corporations to be the target of patent infringement cases. Corporations can tear each other apart as much as they like, but they cannot go after an individual. The benefits:
Corps like Amazon receive patent protection against bigger corps like B&N
Individuals, small businesses, and open source software are not affected by patents.
Information will flow freely for those not obsessed with the bottom line.
What more could you ask for? I mean, Joe Bob Smith may start up his own bookstore, but he certainly won't be competition for Amazon and B&N. He can use any patented idea he likes. When M$ opens the M$ Printed Information Exchange Network TM, they will be subject to patent law.
Does any have any problems with this?
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
In the United States, taxation funds the police and the war on drugs/poor/minorities and speeders.
If the problem is that education, health care, and social welfare are all short on cash, maybe it is because we spend billions and billions of dollars:
Illegally imprisoning minorities and poor people for involvement with "drugs".
Keeping these innocent people in jail for twenty years while murderers, rapists, and lawyers roam the streets freely.
I will never support any additional tax on anything until the government shows me that they have some glimpse of a clue as to where to spend the money.
Besides, why would I ever shop online if I had to pay both sales tax and shipping?
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
From the brief description of the contracts, it seems that an artist would have to be a moron to actually sign with a major record company.
Perhaps this is why there is ZERO quality music currently being pumped out of the major music studios. I mean, is there any human being with a slight bit of individuality that thinks Britney Spears or 98 Degrees deserve anything more than a swift backhand?
With a couple exceptions of some bands that have been around for eons, any worthwhile music coming out today is either produced directly by the band or on a label you've never heard of.
The only money of mine that the RIAA gets is when I buy a copy of something made in the 60s for a whopping price of $15 or whatever.
I thought CDs were supposed to be cheaper to make that records?
Forget Microsoft. At least I have the choice of linux or a mac. What choice do I have when I want to buy a CD?
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
Ok, I posted a couple of other messages, but this is the whole shbang... if you want to turn the My Netscape button into a Freshmeat link and the Shop button into a Slashdot link, you put the following lines in your ~/.Xdefaults file:
*myshopping.tipString: Go to Slashdot
*destinations.tipString: Go to Freshmeat *myshopping.documentationString: Go to Slashdot *destinations.documentationString: Go to Freshmeat *toolBar*myshopping.labelString: Slashdot *toolBar*destinations.labelString: Freshmeat *strings.22495:http://www.slashdot.org/
and then the following line in your ~/.netscape/preferences.js file:
Hmmm... the name of the resource for the My Netscape button is "destinations", so you can change its appearance by doing:
*destinations.tipString: Go to Freshmeat
*destinations.documentationString: Go to Freshmeat *toolBar*destinations.labelString: Freshmeat
BUT... its url (http://home.netscape.com/bookmark/4_7/tstart.html ) is nowhere to be found in the resource file! They apparently don't want you to change this button very much. Maybe the hex editor isn't all that bad.
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
The decision to encrypt video signals out of black box X and into black box Y will have no effect on me at all.
What? Copy protection... information control... blah blah blah.
What the posters in this thread don't seem to understand is that this is all just smoke and mirrors, my dad can beat up your dad as far as my rights are concerned.
The economic evolution of stupid decisions like this would go something like:
Everything everywhere is encrypted
Increased cost of everything that is "copy protected"
Decreased sales of those same things
Someone somewhere figures out how to decrypt
That someone makes reasonably priced "illegal" "pirate" copies and makes a killing
I'm sure someone will say that that is illegal and would never happen, but you have to understand that nobody cares if it is illegal. It's illegal to speed and everyone does that. It's illegal to do drugs, drink or smoke underage, or even to gamble in most places. Yet... hey, look at this, everybody is doing it! You have to realize that it was THE MOB whose brought about the end of Prohibition, not the good will or common sense of the powers that be.
The end result will not be restricted access for the masses, but rather increased piracy and lower revenues for the studios.
That sounds like a great plan to me! Go for it!
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
I agree completely with this idea. It really doesn't bother me that Disney still holds the copyrights on all their movies that they rerelease every few years.
What does bother me is that they can prevent someone from rereleasing a movie that they have no intentions of rereleasing themselves. I remember seeing Song of the South about fifteen years ago and as a kid, I thought it was a great movie. I can also understand that due to the racist parts of the movie, they wouldn't want to release it as a "Disney" movie. They have other outlets such as Touchstone through which to rerelease it. They could just rate it up to PG-13 or something to send the message that maybe the movie isn't for kids.
That's still no reason to hide it forever. Does anyone remember the Dark Ages? Exactly.
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
McFadden: "there exists a multiverse in which everything that can happen really does happen -- but in parallel universes. Although our conscious self inhabits only one branch of the multiverse -- our own universe -- fundamental particles inhabit the entire multiverse. It is this property that allows them to occupy multiple places or states simultaneously: Each place or state is in a parallel universe."
Waitress: "And you?"
Customer2: "Uh... I'll have what he's having."
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
While I would like to believe that this is a pure genuinely "nice" move on the part of Ford, my instinct and general distrust of corporate America tells me otherwise, but I have no solid basis for any argument.
I still don't know all the facts, but I understand from a few poorly written mass media articles that this has something to do with the discussions between Ford and the UAW. The part that interests me most is whether this whole deal was part of the labor contract, or is merely a generous gesture from Ford.
As far as the whole privacy/Ford-is-big-brother theory, I doubt that is of any substance. While it is entirely possible that they could do that, just the thought of the nightmarish PR scandal that would arise if such a scheme was uncovered should shy away even the most Orwellian of corporate policy makers.
Just my four ha'pennies
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
My birthday is October 2, which for all those on the Gregorian calendar is 10-02. When written in the normal person's representation of a date (MM-DD-YYYY), my birthday next year will be on 10-02-2001 which is a palindrome!
In case you were wondering what the last date prior to that to fill such criteria was, I think it was 08-31-1380.
Able was I ere I saw elbA -- Napoleon
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
Verifying client input to the server has been an issue since NCSA developed CGI. As a web site programmer (not designer), you should assume that every byte coming from the client is malicious. That way, things like this do not affect you.
I remember seeing example bad perl scripts that made system calls like:
system( "./db_insert $in{name}" );
or something like that, where db_insert was just some unix executable and $in{name} represents the CGI form input variable "name". If you say your name is "Bob" or something, it works fine. If you say your name is "Bob; rm -rf/", then there is some excitement.
The only way to be safe is to trust no one. Disable javascript, unplug your computer, and burn down your house.
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
I am an avid linux user, but I really have no reason to buy a DVD-ROM drive just yet. I figure that I already spend too much time in front of the monitor, at least if I'm going to watch a movie, I can do it in front of the TV.
I decided that I would buy a DVD player. I have a relatively useless 13" TV that I use only for watching VHS tapes and playing video games. It has a coax connection on the back for an antenna, but the DVD player only has the yellow/red/white video/l-audio/r-audio jacks. No big deal, I can run the video through the VCR to the TV and then hook the audio up directly to the stereo.
Not so fast.
When I put in my movie produced by the bastards at Columbia, it played the FBI warning fine, but when the movie started playing, the picture started fading in and out. This was the first disc I had tried, so I put in another one (also by the bastards at Columbia) and the same thing happened. "Damn it", I thought, wondering how I was going to return the player to the guy on Ebay. I was trying to figure out what could be wrong... the only thing I could come up with is some sort of frequency interference caused by the VCR (I have an EE degree and work as a software engineer - this degree may have value yet). I look in the troubleshooting section of the Toshiba manual, and I see an entry that says "Brightness is unstable in the playback pictures". Bingo! The cause? "Effect of copy protection". WTF? Correction? "Connect DVD player directly to the TV. Avoid connecting the DVD video player to a VCR or TV/VCR combination".
<rant smokelocation=head> Unbelievable! I am not even trying to copy movies, just watch them, and I can't even do that! These people are incredible. What am I supposed to do, buy a new TV just because of this BS? How does it even know that I've connected to the VCR? I'm sure there is a way to circumvent this garbage, but it's just a pain in my arse. If you know of a way, please email me. </rant>
Then, just to appease my thirst for blood and add some fuel to the fire, I tried another DVD disc that I had purchased which was published by a much smaller company that I had never heard of and of course it worked.
So, my friend, it isn't only the linux users who are affected by this control.
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
Slashdot Mirror
I don't understand why M$ bothers with PR like this. Lying in PR stories may be good for dealing with marketers and advertisers, but marketers and advertisers don't care if Windows CE is open sourced. PR stories without backing will have little effect on developers, who are the only people who would really care about or (dare I say) benefit from opening the source.
Point being: put up or shut up.
And communism is going to take over the world right after Russia nukes the United States, and the world will run out of oil just as the last remaining bits of the ozone layer and tropical rainforests are destroyed, until finally aliens with their laser beams and force fields enslave mankind.
Seriously though, Windows users are used to getting binaries only. Linux users are used to getting source code. If someone gave me a binary with no source for Linux, I would immediately become suspicious. This combined with the fact that pine doesn't run arbitrary executables (Outlook not so good) should at least raise the bar for the skill of virii writers.
I have not seen this movie, but on Friday, I was reading the reviews over at Yahoo Movies and I was cracking up.
My personal favorite was this review which I have included below:
It seems pretty convenient that this article on his business practices comes out in the midst of the RIAA's attack on the world.
</CONSPIRACY>"See, he's pirated all these domain names and then he moved to pirating MP3s. He's an evil hacker/communist/nazi/witch!!"
How ridiculous does that sound?
It sounds extremely ridiculous that you are comparing the law to software.
If you use software wrong, whether it be accidentally or intentionally, the worst thing that happens is you end up running Windows.
If you disobey the law, whether it be accidentally or intentionally, you could be fined, sent to prison, or if you live in Texas or Florida, you will probably get the chair. Hardly just an inconvenience.
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
I would sacrifice my right to anonymity and even my right to privacy as long as every single person in the country was forced to do the same. That means every CEO, every lawyer, every politician, and every police officer. I would gladly allow anyone to look at every transaction in my bank account if I could do the same for every US Congressman.
However, I will not put up with a half-assed job of it where maybe you can pay a "fee" and keep your anonymity so that only the rich can afford it.
Throughout history, anonymity has been a tool of corruption and theft, not one of bravery.
Do you know who John Hancock is? There's a reason for that, and it isn't anonymity.
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
Free speech does not require anonymity, it requires courage. Regardless of how much someone tracks you and how much garbage they feed you through the mass media, freedom comes from within. If you are relying on other people to "allow" you to be free, then you are not free.
Example:
"We the people of the United States..."
-- Anonymous
"I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed..." -- Anonymous
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
There is even more detail on the X-33 RLV at this NASA site.
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
This article doesn't really have much detail on their project, but I know that Lockheed Martin has been working on a whole vehicle for delivering things into "outer space".
It's called the X-33 Reusable Launch Vehicle (RLV) and information is available here. This page is slightly out of date, but it has more technical detail than that article.
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
With that said, I think Bezos and Amazon should use this opportunity to point out the obvious flaws in the patent system as it applies to the software/web industry. My radical idea: allow patents on anything at all, but do not allow individuals and other non-corporations to be the target of patent infringement cases. Corporations can tear each other apart as much as they like, but they cannot go after an individual. The benefits:
- Corps like Amazon receive patent protection against bigger corps like B&N
- Individuals, small businesses, and open source software are not affected by patents.
- Information will flow freely for those not obsessed with the bottom line.
What more could you ask for? I mean, Joe Bob Smith may start up his own bookstore, but he certainly won't be competition for Amazon and B&N. He can use any patented idea he likes. When M$ opens the M$ Printed Information Exchange Network TM, they will be subject to patent law.Does any have any problems with this?
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
If the problem is that education, health care, and social welfare are all short on cash, maybe it is because we spend billions and billions of dollars:
- Illegally imprisoning minorities and poor people for involvement with "drugs".
- Keeping these innocent people in jail for twenty years while murderers, rapists, and lawyers roam the streets freely.
I will never support any additional tax on anything until the government shows me that they have some glimpse of a clue as to where to spend the money.Besides, why would I ever shop online if I had to pay both sales tax and shipping?
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
Perhaps this is why there is ZERO quality music currently being pumped out of the major music studios. I mean, is there any human being with a slight bit of individuality that thinks Britney Spears or 98 Degrees deserve anything more than a swift backhand?
With a couple exceptions of some bands that have been around for eons, any worthwhile music coming out today is either produced directly by the band or on a label you've never heard of.
The only money of mine that the RIAA gets is when I buy a copy of something made in the 60s for a whopping price of $15 or whatever.
I thought CDs were supposed to be cheaper to make that records?
Forget Microsoft. At least I have the choice of linux or a mac. What choice do I have when I want to buy a CD?
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
I will get the mountain, someone else get the chisels.
Just remember to keep your 1 's straight and your 0 's round.
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
- *myshopping.tipString: Go to Slashdot
and then the following line in your ~/.netscape/preferences.js file:*destinations.tipString: Go to Freshmeat
*myshopping.documentationString: Go to Slashdot
*destinations.documentationString: Go to Freshmeat
*toolBar*myshopping.labelString: Slashdot
*toolBar*destinations.labelString: Freshmeat
*strings.22495:http://www.slashdot.org/
- config("toolbar.places.default_url","http://www.f
r eshmeat.net/");
Yes, every other line in that file says "user_pref", but this one has to say "config".There is also a similar entry for the search button, but I'm tired of typing and no one is going to read this anyway.
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
- *destinations.tipString: Go to Freshmeat
BUT... its url (http://home.netscape.com/bookmark/4_7/tstart.htm*destinations.documentationString: Go to Freshmeat
*toolBar*destinations.labelString: Freshmeat
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
For example, I just added the following:
- *myshopping.tipString: Go to Slashdot
and now I have a Slashdot button instead of a Shop button. No hex editor necessary!*myshopping.documentationString: Go to Slashdot
*toolBar*myshopping.labelString: Slashdot
*strings.22495:http://www.slashdot.org/
For a list of other properties you can customize, take a look at jwz's file: /usr/local/netscape/Netscape.ad
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
What? Copy protection... information control... blah blah blah.
What the posters in this thread don't seem to understand is that this is all just smoke and mirrors, my dad can beat up your dad as far as my rights are concerned.
The economic evolution of stupid decisions like this would go something like:
- Everything everywhere is encrypted
- Increased cost of everything that is "copy protected"
- Decreased sales of those same things
- Someone somewhere figures out how to decrypt
- That someone makes reasonably priced "illegal" "pirate" copies and makes a killing
I'm sure someone will say that that is illegal and would never happen, but you have to understand that nobody cares if it is illegal. It's illegal to speed and everyone does that. It's illegal to do drugs, drink or smoke underage, or even to gamble in most places. Yet... hey, look at this, everybody is doing it! You have to realize that it was THE MOB whose brought about the end of Prohibition, not the good will or common sense of the powers that be.The end result will not be restricted access for the masses, but rather increased piracy and lower revenues for the studios.
That sounds like a great plan to me! Go for it!
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
I agree completely with this idea. It really doesn't bother me that Disney still holds the copyrights on all their movies that they rerelease every few years.
What does bother me is that they can prevent someone from rereleasing a movie that they have no intentions of rereleasing themselves. I remember seeing Song of the South about fifteen years ago and as a kid, I thought it was a great movie. I can also understand that due to the racist parts of the movie, they wouldn't want to release it as a "Disney" movie. They have other outlets such as Touchstone through which to rerelease it. They could just rate it up to PG-13 or something to send the message that maybe the movie isn't for kids.
That's still no reason to hide it forever. Does anyone remember the Dark Ages? Exactly.
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
Waitress: "Can I take your order?"
McFadden: "there exists a multiverse in which everything that can happen really does happen -- but in parallel universes. Although our conscious self inhabits only one branch of the multiverse -- our own universe -- fundamental particles inhabit the entire multiverse. It is this property that allows them to occupy multiple places or states simultaneously: Each place or state is in a parallel universe."
Waitress: "And you?"
Customer2: "Uh... I'll have what he's having."
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
September only has 30 days.
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
While I would like to believe that this is a pure genuinely "nice" move on the part of Ford, my instinct and general distrust of corporate America tells me otherwise, but I have no solid basis for any argument.
I still don't know all the facts, but I understand from a few poorly written mass media articles that this has something to do with the discussions between Ford and the UAW. The part that interests me most is whether this whole deal was part of the labor contract, or is merely a generous gesture from Ford.
As far as the whole privacy/Ford-is-big-brother theory, I doubt that is of any substance. While it is entirely possible that they could do that, just the thought of the nightmarish PR scandal that would arise if such a scheme was uncovered should shy away even the most Orwellian of corporate policy makers.
Just my four ha'pennies
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
Sort of offtopic, but not too far...
My birthday is October 2, which for all those on the Gregorian calendar is 10-02. When written in the normal person's representation of a date (MM-DD-YYYY), my birthday next year will be on 10-02-2001 which is a palindrome!
In case you were wondering what the last date prior to that to fill such criteria was, I think it was 08-31-1380.
Able was I ere I saw elbA -- Napoleon
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
Verifying client input to the server has been an issue since NCSA developed CGI. As a web site programmer (not designer), you should assume that every byte coming from the client is malicious. That way, things like this do not affect you.
/", then there is some excitement.
I remember seeing example bad perl scripts that made system calls like:
system( "./db_insert $in{name}" );
or something like that, where db_insert was just some unix executable and $in{name} represents the CGI form input variable "name". If you say your name is "Bob" or something, it works fine. If you say your name is "Bob; rm -rf
The only way to be safe is to trust no one. Disable javascript, unplug your computer, and burn down your house.
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
I wrote a nice little GPLed utility for taking the bad cookies out of your cookies file while leaving the good ones there.
It is called Cookie Cutter and you can get it at http://www.koaton.org/cookiecutter/. I am using it right now!
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.
I decided that I would buy a DVD player. I have a relatively useless 13" TV that I use only for watching VHS tapes and playing video games. It has a coax connection on the back for an antenna, but the DVD player only has the yellow/red/white video/l-audio/r-audio jacks. No big deal, I can run the video through the VCR to the TV and then hook the audio up directly to the stereo.
Not so fast.
When I put in my movie produced by the bastards at Columbia, it played the FBI warning fine, but when the movie started playing, the picture started fading in and out. This was the first disc I had tried, so I put in another one (also by the bastards at Columbia) and the same thing happened. "Damn it", I thought, wondering how I was going to return the player to the guy on Ebay. I was trying to figure out what could be wrong... the only thing I could come up with is some sort of frequency interference caused by the VCR (I have an EE degree and work as a software engineer - this degree may have value yet). I look in the troubleshooting section of the Toshiba manual, and I see an entry that says "Brightness is unstable in the playback pictures". Bingo! The cause? "Effect of copy protection". WTF? Correction? "Connect DVD player directly to the TV. Avoid connecting the DVD video player to a VCR or TV/VCR combination".
<rant smokelocation=head>
Unbelievable! I am not even trying to copy movies, just watch them, and I can't even do that! These people are incredible. What am I supposed to do, buy a new TV just because of this BS? How does it even know that I've connected to the VCR? I'm sure there is a way to circumvent this garbage, but it's just a pain in my arse. If you know of a way, please email me.
</rant>
Then, just to appease my thirst for blood and add some fuel to the fire, I tried another DVD disc that I had purchased which was published by a much smaller company that I had never heard of and of course it worked.
So, my friend, it isn't only the linux users who are affected by this control.
Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin.