It does effect me if my name pops-up on a watch list, and I have to undergo an hour long interrogation or penis-fondling by the airport SSA.... ooops I mean TSA.
>>>you will in no way shape or form be effected by this
Riiiiight. Here's what a German pastor said after he was released from a Nazi jail cell: "It was the year 1933, and the people who were put in the camps then were Communists. Who cared about them?..... Then they got rid of the sick, the so-called incurables. - I remember a conversation I had with a person who claimed to be a Christian. He said: 'Perhaps it's right, these incurably sick people just cost the state money, they are just a burden to themselves and to others.'..... The persecution of the Jews, the way we treated the occupied countries, or the things in Greece, in Poland, in Czechoslovakia or in Holland, that were written about in the newspapers.
"I ask myself again and again, what would have happened if, in the year 1933 or 1934 - all Protestant communities in Germany had defended the truth until their deaths? If we had said back then, it is not right when Hermann Göring simply puts 100,000 Communists in the concentration camps, in order to let them die. I can imagine that perhaps Protestant Christians would have had their heads cut off, but I can also imagine that we would have rescued 10 million people, because that is what it is costing us now."
Or if you prefer Star Trek: "With the first speech censured, the first freedom denied, the first link in the chain is Forged that will bind us all irrevocably."
Once again you're not making any sense. I didn't "assemble" my Windows7 PC. And there's no real difference between a Honda and an Acura except they applied a different badge in the factory. In most cases they even share the same base chassis & body. Only the trimming is different.
As long as I can walk into a store, buy a DVD or CD, determine "that sucked", and then be denied the right to return that shit for a refund (or credit), I will continue to endorse sharing as a way to "try before you buy" in order to avoid being ripped off. Hell - even the lowly candybar makers have a refund policy if you don't enjoy their product. Record and movie companies should do the same because the price is ~20 times higher, and therefore that much more painful to the consumer's limited budget.
>>>>>CD quality as low as 48k >> >>What rate and resolution would you be using for the recording and playback in that case?
Not sure I understand. Isn't this question answered by the "48 kbit/s" in my original post? Maybe you meant the frequency range, which would be 20-22,000 hertz. In any case, in blind tests less than 1% of the listeners could distinguish an actual CD versus the 48k AACplus recording, so that's considered "CD quality" by acoustic engineers.
Those filthy corporations are no good. The government should operate a "single payer" voice-over-IP company that has no profit motive and is highly efficient.... (cough) Woah. For a second there I was possessed by the spirit of Rachel Maddow.;-)
One of the most insightful and funny posts here. Naturally, it is modded Troll.
Thank you sir. People can't handle the truth, so instead they seek to silence it. The moderation system is being used for Censorship of ideas, instead of its original intent.
I don't comprehend how you (and others) equate Fascism and "American Right" as being the same thing?
The American Right embraces constitutionally-limited government that is relatively weak and small in size..... the exact opposite of a Totalitarian fascist state.
The only reason the S.S. has a good return is because approximately half of the Americans die before they have a chance to collect what they originally paid-in. For those persons the return on the investment is around -90% (yes negative return) but the government very carefully cooks the books to avoid that fact from being shared. S.S. is a Ponzi Pyramid scheme and no more sound than the scheme run by Bernie Madoff was.
President Wilson is an asshole for jailing people simply because they used their speech to oppose the war. He even went so far as to jail Alice Paul and the Suffragettes just because they asked for the right to vote. And to segregate the army into black-white where it had previously been integrated.
Your questions don't even make sense. You are comparing a 10mph bike to a 70mph car, whereas I am comparing a computer (mini) to a computer (desktop) with equal specs and capability, except for size. A better comparison for You to make would be a $15,000 Honda Civic versus a $35,000 Acura TL.
I would choose the former because both do the same thing (move my body from home to work), but the latter would force me to work an extra 850 hours (two years of +10 hours overtime) to pay it off. I simply prefer to avoid having to do that.
I don't understand why people have a problem with this. A government-run company eliminates the profit motive, is more efficient overall, and ensures everyone has service including those too poor to pay the bill. It's universal phone service for every one.
I don't understand why people have a problem with this. A government-run company eliminates the profit motive, is more efficient overall, and ensures everyone has service including those too poor to pay the phone bill.
At least that's what we were told in 2008-9 during the government-run health proposal (aka single payer plan). How is THIS any different? It has all the same benefits.
Sex? I hear those Chinese ladies are, to quote a song, "Ladies in the street but a freak in the bed." You just have to make sure not to get pregnant more than once.:-|
Somebody else wrote: >>>And despite doing things like this constantly, China is still the darling of all the so-called "free trade" advocates.
Kinda like Fascist Germany, Italy, and Spain were considered marvels by their contemporaries. They were the 1930s boom economies with private corporations under State control. A bit like China today.
Those filthy corporations are no good. The government should operate a "single payer" voice-over-IP company that has no profit motive and is highly efficient, to ensure EVERYONE has phone service. We can trust the government to provide superior service to those no-good corporations and their greedy-greed-greedy selves. (cough) Woah. For a second there I was possessed by the spirit of Rachel Maddow.;-)
Zero of those people were "killed by the tobacco industry". They killed themselves.
QFT. Just as surely as eating too much fat, or drinking too much beer, or driving your car over a cliff, is an act of suicide. The corporation didn't kill these people - they didn't force them to walk into gas chambers or stand in front of a firing squad.
>>>Multiply 500 users by [CD quality] 48 kbit. Thats 24 megabit in streaming audio.
So basically nothing. (For a corporation with a gigabit line; or more.) Strange that many other corporations like mine can afford it, so why can't yours? Of course they also gave away a free lunch every day, since they thought keeping people happy made them more productive. Strange that.
>>>Have you listened to music at 16kbps? 96k is about as low as I'll go
Yeah because you're listening to the old MPEG2 part 3 (MP3) standard. The newer MPEG4-encoded music (aka AACplus) achieves MP3 quality at HALF the bitrates: CD quality as low as 48k FM quality as low as 32k and AM quality at just 12k (example: Free Talk Live from New Hampshire, or Radiojackie.com in london). All of these are dialup speeds and would make virtually no impact on your corporate network so there's no reason to block office workers from hearing them.
>>>make it impossible for you to purchase books from anywhere else?
That is ridiculous. There are tons and tons of alternate bookstores to buy from besides Amazon, and always will be. And yes I have a Walmart but there are likewise tons of other B&Ms to shop from. You're starting to sound as nutty as Alex Jones with your "the future is damned" conspiracy theories. Monopolies don't last. Again, look at Microsoft and how their share has been eroded by Seamonkey/firefox and Chrome and Opera. And the portable computers we call "phones" which run non-MS software. Their 90% monopoly is crumbling even as we speak.
>>>Was your Win 7 PC the size of a couple of CDs stacked on top of each other?
No. Do I care if it is the size of a couple records stacked on top of each other? Didn't think so. My priority was and is saving money, so I don't need to work so damn much overtime.
I would. "Delve inside, though, and the Mac Mini disappoints. A Core 2 processor released in 2008, stingy 320GB hard disk and 2GB of RAM. What killed it for us, though, was the price. The base model was expensive at £650, but if you want to upgrade to a larger hard disk or faster processor Apple was charging double or sometimes triple the "real" price difference. Great design, but what a rip-off."
I bought the same thing, albeit a Win7 PC, for $200. What's that in pounds? 130? No wonder PCpro call the Mini overpriced...... uh oh here comes the apple brigade. (-1 mod)
- Can amazon suck money out of my wallet? Nope. - Can amazon send cops to raid my house or give me a Rodney King-style beating? Nope. - Can amazon arrest me and put me in jail? Nope. - Can amazon do fuck-all to me? Nope. Amazon is a powerless entity and I give my middle finger to them. If we ALL did that then amazon would soon be like Wards (dead) or Commodore (dead) or Tucker Motors (dead). They are a "90% eBook monopoly" only because we made them that way, and we can destroy them just as easily.
Okay. So two questions: (1) Why not just let Skype operate through the same port used to handle HTML?
(2) Why ban office workers from listening to radioaol.com or other audio stations? You say you're "not a nazi" but barring people from hearing music seems reminiscent of the record burnings from that time. "This is filth - you shall not listen to it." It's just music to keep the engineers from going batty from boredom. ----- You also speak of bandwidth but we're only talking about Dialup-level audio (16k, 32k, 48k). Practically nothing. The last place I worked let people listen to any internet radio they desired, and it did not bankrupt the company.
All you are doing is giving reasons why the US Government should only exercise the powers *specifically* enumerated by its Constitutional Law. If the constitution was enforced the US Congress would not have the power to bailout AIG. Or power to give handouts to "stimulate" General Motors. Or give special favors to Microsoft by taxing all non-windows PCs/laptops/pads. .
>>>they can certainly have you "silenced" or "suicided" as it were.
Okay. Please cite an example of this where a corporation committed murder & was not punished by the law. ----- I can guarantee you the government has done it FAR more often. Over 150 million people were murdered by their OWN governments during this past century. Have corporations ever mass-exterminated that many people? ----- Even the US Congress deprived approximately 10 million of their property, homes, money, and freedom simply because they had grandparents that were born in Japan. Name one corporation that has ever committed that level of atrocity as done by that ONE building of 535 men in Washington D.C.
Don't blame the users for what is really a *programming* problem. The article says the older versions (3.x and 4.x) worked fine and were bug-free. It was the NEW version that broke the nodes. That's why I don't install new versions until they've been around for awhile.
Just recently Microsoft auto-updated my work computer from IE7 to 8, and the browser worked perfectly but something in the update killed my network connection. Grrr. And then there was that Antivirus Software update from three weeks ago that killed people's Windows PCs by making them unbootable. Customers were told to download a fix and burn a recover CD, but how are they supposed to do that if their PC is crashed??? Fucking bastards.
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It does effect me if my name pops-up on a watch list, and I have to undergo an hour long interrogation or penis-fondling by the airport SSA.... ooops I mean TSA.
>>>you will in no way shape or form be effected by this
Riiiiight. Here's what a German pastor said after he was released from a Nazi jail cell: "It was the year 1933, and the people who were put in the camps then were Communists. Who cared about them? ..... Then they got rid of the sick, the so-called incurables. - I remember a conversation I had with a person who claimed to be a Christian. He said: 'Perhaps it's right, these incurably sick people just cost the state money, they are just a burden to themselves and to others.' ..... The persecution of the Jews, the way we treated the occupied countries, or the things in Greece, in Poland, in Czechoslovakia or in Holland, that were written about in the newspapers.
"I ask myself again and again, what would have happened if, in the year 1933 or 1934 - all Protestant communities in Germany had defended the truth until their deaths? If we had said back then, it is not right when Hermann Göring simply puts 100,000 Communists in the concentration camps, in order to let them die. I can imagine that perhaps Protestant Christians would have had their heads cut off, but I can also imagine that we would have rescued 10 million people, because that is what it is costing us now."
Or if you prefer Star Trek:
"With the first speech censured, the first freedom denied, the first link in the chain is Forged that will bind us all irrevocably."
Once again you're not making any sense. I didn't "assemble" my Windows7 PC. And there's no real difference between a Honda and an Acura except they applied a different badge in the factory. In most cases they even share the same base chassis & body. Only the trimming is different.
As long as I can walk into a store, buy a DVD or CD, determine "that sucked", and then be denied the right to return that shit for a refund (or credit), I will continue to endorse sharing as a way to "try before you buy" in order to avoid being ripped off.
Hell - even the lowly candybar makers have a refund policy if you don't enjoy their product. Record and movie companies should do the same because the price is ~20 times higher, and therefore that much more painful to the consumer's limited budget.
>>>>>CD quality as low as 48k
>>
>>What rate and resolution would you be using for the recording and playback in that case?
Not sure I understand. Isn't this question answered by the "48 kbit/s" in my original post? Maybe you meant the frequency range, which would be 20-22,000 hertz. In any case, in blind tests less than 1% of the listeners could distinguish an actual CD versus the 48k AACplus recording, so that's considered "CD quality" by acoustic engineers.
Those filthy corporations are no good. The government should operate a "single payer" voice-over-IP company that has no profit motive and is highly efficient.... (cough) Woah. For a second there I was possessed by the spirit of Rachel Maddow. ;-)
One of the most insightful and funny posts here. Naturally, it is modded Troll.
Thank you sir. People can't handle the truth, so instead they seek to silence it. The moderation system is being used for Censorship of ideas, instead of its original intent.
I don't comprehend how you (and others) equate Fascism and "American Right" as being the same thing?
The American Right embraces constitutionally-limited government that is relatively weak and small in size..... the exact opposite of a Totalitarian fascist state.
The only reason the S.S. has a good return is because approximately half of the Americans die before they have a chance to collect what they originally paid-in. For those persons the return on the investment is around -90% (yes negative return) but the government very carefully cooks the books to avoid that fact from being shared. S.S. is a Ponzi Pyramid scheme and no more sound than the scheme run by Bernie Madoff was.
President Wilson is an asshole for jailing people simply because they used their speech to oppose the war. He even went so far as to jail Alice Paul and the Suffragettes just because they asked for the right to vote. And to segregate the army into black-white where it had previously been integrated.
What a dick.
Your questions don't even make sense. You are comparing a 10mph bike to a 70mph car, whereas I am comparing a computer (mini) to a computer (desktop) with equal specs and capability, except for size. A better comparison for You to make would be a $15,000 Honda Civic versus a $35,000 Acura TL.
I would choose the former because both do the same thing (move my body from home to work), but the latter would force me to work an extra 850 hours (two years of +10 hours overtime) to pay it off. I simply prefer to avoid having to do that.
Correct.
I don't understand why people have a problem with this. A government-run company eliminates the profit motive, is more efficient overall, and ensures everyone has service including those too poor to pay the bill. It's universal phone service for every one.
I don't understand why people have a problem with this. A government-run company eliminates the profit motive, is more efficient overall, and ensures everyone has service including those too poor to pay the phone bill.
At least that's what we were told in 2008-9 during the government-run health proposal (aka single payer plan). How is THIS any different? It has all the same benefits.
No.
The article says the older versions (3.x and 4.x) worked fine and were bug-free, so I would have had no problems.
>>>So what do people in China do for fun?
Sex? :-|
I hear those Chinese ladies are, to quote a song, "Ladies in the street but a freak in the bed." You just have to make sure not to get pregnant more than once.
Somebody else wrote:
>>>And despite doing things like this constantly, China is still the darling of all the so-called "free trade" advocates.
Kinda like Fascist Germany, Italy, and Spain were considered marvels by their contemporaries. They were the 1930s boom economies with private corporations under State control. A bit like China today.
Those filthy corporations are no good. The government should operate a "single payer" voice-over-IP company that has no profit motive and is highly efficient, to ensure EVERYONE has phone service. We can trust the government to provide superior service to those no-good corporations and their greedy-greed-greedy selves. ;-)
(cough)
Woah. For a second there I was possessed by the spirit of Rachel Maddow.
Zero of those people were "killed by the tobacco industry". They killed themselves.
QFT. Just as surely as eating too much fat, or drinking too much beer, or driving your car over a cliff, is an act of suicide. The corporation didn't kill these people - they didn't force them to walk into gas chambers or stand in front of a firing squad.
>>>Multiply 500 users by [CD quality] 48 kbit. Thats 24 megabit in streaming audio.
So basically nothing. (For a corporation with a gigabit line; or more.) Strange that many other corporations like mine can afford it, so why can't yours? Of course they also gave away a free lunch every day, since they thought keeping people happy made them more productive. Strange that.
>>>Have you listened to music at 16kbps? 96k is about as low as I'll go
Yeah because you're listening to the old MPEG2 part 3 (MP3) standard. The newer MPEG4-encoded music (aka AACplus) achieves MP3 quality at HALF the bitrates:
CD quality as low as 48k
FM quality as low as 32k
and AM quality at just 12k (example: Free Talk Live from New Hampshire, or Radiojackie.com in london). All of these are dialup speeds and would make virtually no impact on your corporate network so there's no reason to block office workers from hearing them.
>>>make it impossible for you to purchase books from anywhere else?
That is ridiculous. There are tons and tons of alternate bookstores to buy from besides Amazon, and always will be. And yes I have a Walmart but there are likewise tons of other B&Ms to shop from. You're starting to sound as nutty as Alex Jones with your "the future is damned" conspiracy theories. Monopolies don't last. Again, look at Microsoft and how their share has been eroded by Seamonkey/firefox and Chrome and Opera. And the portable computers we call "phones" which run non-MS software. Their 90% monopoly is crumbling even as we speak.
>>>Was your Win 7 PC the size of a couple of CDs stacked on top of each other?
No.
Do I care if it is the size of a couple records stacked on top of each other?
Didn't think so.
My priority was and is saving money, so I don't need to work so damn much overtime.
I would. "Delve inside, though, and the Mac Mini disappoints. A Core 2 processor released in 2008, stingy 320GB hard disk and 2GB of RAM. What killed it for us, though, was the price. The base model was expensive at £650, but if you want to upgrade to a larger hard disk or faster processor Apple was charging double or sometimes triple the "real" price difference. Great design, but what a rip-off."
I bought the same thing, albeit a Win7 PC, for $200. What's that in pounds? 130? No wonder PCpro call the Mini overpriced...... uh oh here comes the apple brigade. (-1 mod)
You forgot a few key questions:
- Can amazon suck money out of my wallet? Nope.
- Can amazon send cops to raid my house or give me a Rodney King-style beating? Nope.
- Can amazon arrest me and put me in jail? Nope.
- Can amazon do fuck-all to me? Nope. Amazon is a powerless entity and I give my middle finger to them. If we ALL did that then amazon would soon be like Wards (dead) or Commodore (dead) or Tucker Motors (dead). They are a "90% eBook monopoly" only because we made them that way, and we can destroy them just as easily.
Okay. So two questions: (1) Why not just let Skype operate through the same port used to handle HTML?
(2) Why ban office workers from listening to radioaol.com or other audio stations? You say you're "not a nazi" but barring people from hearing music seems reminiscent of the record burnings from that time. "This is filth - you shall not listen to it." It's just music to keep the engineers from going batty from boredom. ----- You also speak of bandwidth but we're only talking about Dialup-level audio (16k, 32k, 48k). Practically nothing. The last place I worked let people listen to any internet radio they desired, and it did not bankrupt the company.
All you are doing is giving reasons why the US Government should only exercise the powers *specifically* enumerated by its Constitutional Law. If the constitution was enforced the US Congress would not have the power to bailout AIG. Or power to give handouts to "stimulate" General Motors. Or give special favors to Microsoft by taxing all non-windows PCs/laptops/pads.
.
>>>they can certainly have you "silenced" or "suicided" as it were.
Okay. Please cite an example of this where a corporation committed murder & was not punished by the law. ----- I can guarantee you the government has done it FAR more often. Over 150 million people were murdered by their OWN governments during this past century. Have corporations ever mass-exterminated that many people? ----- Even the US Congress deprived approximately 10 million of their property, homes, money, and freedom simply because they had grandparents that were born in Japan. Name one corporation that has ever committed that level of atrocity as done by that ONE building of 535 men in Washington D.C.
>>>the wealth of the country is divided into smaller and smaller shares, which is why poor people today live exactly like poor people in the 1800's
Brilliant sarcasm.
Way to hoist that
guy on his own petard.
Don't blame the users for what is really a *programming* problem. The article says the older versions (3.x and 4.x) worked fine and were bug-free. It was the NEW version that broke the nodes. That's why I don't install new versions until they've been around for awhile.
Just recently Microsoft auto-updated my work computer from IE7 to 8, and the browser worked perfectly but something in the update killed my network connection. Grrr. And then there was that Antivirus Software update from three weeks ago that killed people's Windows PCs by making them unbootable. Customers were told to download a fix and burn a recover CD, but how are they supposed to do that if their PC is crashed??? Fucking bastards.