>>>I think this repeated slashdot urban legend that restrictions of free speech are the same as censorship are a big insult to every person that indeed suffers under censorship.
Imagine that I'm a Hindu from India. I show-up in Germany wearing my traditional garb, which also includes the swastika meaning "well being". I then find myself pulled into a German jail. That's called censorship. It means I'm no longer a freeman, but a slave of the "master" known as the government, which owns my body and controls my mouth.
I much prefer the U.S. model, where people own themselves, and even death threats are considered a protected right of a liberated, sovereign individual.
>>>in germany the EU constitution was "accepted" by the government.
Interesting. The US constitution was adopted in the same fashion - by a simple vote in each of the 13 state legislatures. The people were not involved at all.
Because rights are an innate quality of human beings that can not be revoked. That means having ownership of your mouth and saying whatever you want, is universal, and applies whether you are an honest citizen, or a thief.
Yes it is. U.S. Sherman Act - To provide remedy against "every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize...any part of the trade or commerce among the several States." Ask the record companies. When they were caught price-fixing CDs from 1990 onward, thereby forming a cartel monopoly, the United States forced them to pay about 1/2 billion dollars in refunds to any customer that asked for one. (My family got $60 back.)
Let me repeat the part you missed - Apple is using their 90% software dominance with the Istore/Itunes virtual monopoly to discourage use of _____-brand players and thereby force customers to buy Ipods so they can hear their Istore purchases. It's an antimompetitive, monopolistic practice under both U.S. and EU law.
>>>monopolies are not in and of themselves ilegal!
Stop reading Libertarian Party propaganda (I used to be part of the LP - I know the falsehoods they preach), and learn the actual law. The U.S. Sherman Act provides a remedy against "every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize...any part of the trade or commerce among the several States."
>>>MS's statement really just says it increases the attack surface, (pretty much a fact with any plugin)
I agree with that part, but I don't agree with the last half of the statement which was: "Given the security issues with plugins in general and Google Chrome in particular..." What security problems is Google Chrome having? I'd like to see Microsoft back that up with some citations.
>>>Something being intuitive is not what you describe it to be. It is the ability of a system to be learned and adapted to quickly.
In that case Ribbon == epic fail.
>>>potential future touch screen displays
Another bad idea. That last thing I want to do is spend 12 hours a day (at work and home) waving my arms at a screen. Talk about wearing yourself out! I'm lazy and prefer the use of a mouse which can be used with minimal exertion.
>>>The only reason you're used to the menu system is you've been trained since windows 95
Longer that that! I was trained on GEOS '85 on a Commodore computer. The menu interface has been around a long, long time and for good reason - it makes it easy to quickly scan and find what you need. Ribbon just presents a bunch of pictures which are as confusing as reading Egyptian hieroglyphics.
>>>But hey, we have Free Speech here; the government can't force us to stop talking about inches and feet and force us to talk about meters. That's good, right?
Yes being free is "good" and better than being a slave. My ancestors can attest to that.
>>>I think this most/.'ers hate the menus because MS created them.
Yeah accept I don't hate Microsoft, so that excuse is invalid. (shrug). Whatever. It wouldn't be the first time a corporation frakked-up and lost the loyalty of its users, due to a lousy bone-headed decision. Remember New Coke?
Yes and before that I used WordPerfect on Amiga, and GEOSwrite on a Commodore. The reason I was able to learn the Windows Word interface so quickly (i.e. immediately) is specifically because it follows a nice *linear list* of commands - like books in a library make it easy to scan the titles and find what you want.
The ribbon interface is neither linear, nor easy to scan. It's a mish-mash that makes finding commands difficult - like scattering the books in said library across a bunch of tables. It is an illogical method of organization (or lack thereof).
I was surprised that the camera was still picking-up sound when it was 20 miles high. I thought the air would be too thin for the microphone to sense anything.
Oh. Well thanks for the detailed explanation of why the legal equivalent of muzzling a person (as if he were a slave instead of a freeman) is not an abridgment of liberty.
- "I merely hid the weapon. I did not fire it." - Lya of the Nox - "Ah. Pretty fine line you didn't cross." - Captain Carter - "Yes..... it is."
>>>Most people who actually give the ribbon a chance get used to it in about 2 weeks -
Wow. 2 weeks of my life wasted so I could save 1/4 second selecting my command. Yeah. Benjamin Franklin had a saying about that - "Penny wise; pound foolish," to describe people who count pennies but spend dollars recklessly.
>>>currency here in the UK that until 1971 was a total headfuck.
No offense but that really doesn't seem too difficult. A pound is divided into 20 shillings. That's equivalent to our system where one dollar is divided into 20 nickles. It's also how many digits a human being has.
Sub-dividing the shilling (or nickle) into 12 pieces is consistent with the idea of dividing a dozen into 12 units, although probably too small to be of any use today.
Oh good! I've been loyal to the Mozilla suite ever since the days of Mosaic and Netscape. I'm glad I won't have to switch to something else. Opera 10 is a decent alternative, but it has some annoying quirks (like loading half a page and stopping for no apparent reason). I still prefer Mozilla Firefox.
I've always wondered why they don't write programs in Assembly and make them fit inside 640 kilobyte spaces, like they used to do, but I guess that's called progress. (shrug)
>>>gt wth th txtng genrtn. & no i wnt gt off yr lwn
Shakespeare is dat u? I lovd ur ply. "O Romeo, denie thy Fathr: Vnto the white vpturned wondring eyes; Of mortalls that fall backe, When he bestrides the lazie puffing Cloudes, And sailes vpon the bosome of the ayre."
>>>people are bitching about Microsoft not maintaining backards compatibility...
Well I've tried and failed multiple times to make Wing Commander operate on Microsoft and failed spectacularly...... but never mind that. - Improvement is only an improvement if the overall usage is improved. Yeah I know you're probably thinking "No shit sherlock", but that basic idea is something many people overlook.
The current interface presents a nice CLEAN list of commands, which can be quickly and easily scanned. The new ribbon interface presents a confusing mess of pictures and words that make a "quick scan" very difficult. It's the computer equivalent of tacking an organized library, and just randomly tossing books everywhere. Yes the books might be neatly arranged, but they are still random to the eye, and finding the book you want becomes very difficult.
Put the books/menu commands back in a nice, serial order so the human eye can scan and find what it's looking for.
Yet another (whoosh). Let me rephrase - Nothing's more annoying than having spent 1 or 2 hundred dollars on [Insignia and Sony branded] gadgets, only to discover they won't work anymore when I upgrade to OS 10.6 or Itunes 9. This is why I would "just say no" to Apple in the future, and buy a PC instead.
(whoosh). I was talking about "lock in" where you buy a Texas Instruments computer, and then you buy a TI disk drive and a TI printer and a TI modem and a TI monitor and..... Back in the 70s and 80s you did not have the option to use other generic products.
>>>We're still being forced to buy it
Except we're not. If you really hate TI for some reason, you can buy a soundcard with parts made by some other company instead.
+5 insightful. That's what most journalists do today - just publish the press release word-for-word, minus a few edits to make it fit inside the available column space or 1-minute soundbite. It's reached the point where you assume the journalists are just mouthpieces for the corporate liars (aka marketers).
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>>>I think this repeated slashdot urban legend that restrictions of free speech are the same as censorship are a big insult to every person that indeed suffers under censorship.
Imagine that I'm a Hindu from India. I show-up in Germany wearing my traditional garb, which also includes the swastika meaning "well being". I then find myself pulled into a German jail. That's called censorship. It means I'm no longer a freeman, but a slave of the "master" known as the government, which owns my body and controls my mouth.
I much prefer the U.S. model, where people own themselves, and even death threats are considered a protected right of a liberated, sovereign individual.
>>>in germany the EU constitution was "accepted" by the government.
Interesting. The US constitution was adopted in the same fashion - by a simple vote in each of the 13 state legislatures. The people were not involved at all.
Because rights are an innate quality of human beings that can not be revoked. That means having ownership of your mouth and saying whatever you want, is universal, and applies whether you are an honest citizen, or a thief.
>>>Being a monopoly isn't inherently wrong.
Yes it is. U.S. Sherman Act - To provide remedy against "every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize...any part of the trade or commerce among the several States." Ask the record companies. When they were caught price-fixing CDs from 1990 onward, thereby forming a cartel monopoly, the United States forced them to pay about 1/2 billion dollars in refunds to any customer that asked for one. (My family got $60 back.)
(whoosh)
Let me repeat the part you missed - Apple is using their 90% software dominance with the Istore/Itunes virtual monopoly to discourage use of _____-brand players and thereby force customers to buy Ipods so they can hear their Istore purchases. It's an antimompetitive, monopolistic practice under both U.S. and EU law.
>>>monopolies are not in and of themselves ilegal!
Stop reading Libertarian Party propaganda (I used to be part of the LP - I know the falsehoods they preach), and learn the actual law. The U.S. Sherman Act provides a remedy against "every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize...any part of the trade or commerce among the several States."
>>>MS's statement really just says it increases the attack surface, (pretty much a fact with any plugin)
I agree with that part, but I don't agree with the last half of the statement which was: "Given the security issues with plugins in general and Google Chrome in particular..." What security problems is Google Chrome having? I'd like to see Microsoft back that up with some citations.
>>>Something being intuitive is not what you describe it to be. It is the ability of a system to be learned and adapted to quickly.
In that case Ribbon == epic fail.
>>>potential future touch screen displays
Another bad idea. That last thing I want to do is spend 12 hours a day (at work and home) waving my arms at a screen. Talk about wearing yourself out! I'm lazy and prefer the use of a mouse which can be used with minimal exertion.
>>>The only reason you're used to the menu system is you've been trained since windows 95
Longer that that! I was trained on GEOS '85 on a Commodore computer. The menu interface has been around a long, long time and for good reason - it makes it easy to quickly scan and find what you need. Ribbon just presents a bunch of pictures which are as confusing as reading Egyptian hieroglyphics.
>>>But hey, we have Free Speech here; the government can't force us to stop talking about inches and feet and force us to talk about meters. That's good, right?
Yes being free is "good" and better than being a slave. My ancestors can attest to that.
>>>I think this most /.'ers hate the menus because MS created them.
Yeah accept I don't hate Microsoft, so that excuse is invalid. (shrug). Whatever. It wouldn't be the first time a corporation frakked-up and lost the loyalty of its users, due to a lousy bone-headed decision. Remember New Coke?
>>>"Word for Windows" file menu for 15 years
Yes and before that I used WordPerfect on Amiga, and GEOSwrite on a Commodore. The reason I was able to learn the Windows Word interface so quickly (i.e. immediately) is specifically because it follows a nice *linear list* of commands - like books in a library make it easy to scan the titles and find what you want.
The ribbon interface is neither linear, nor easy to scan. It's a mish-mash that makes finding commands difficult - like scattering the books in said library across a bunch of tables. It is an illogical method of organization (or lack thereof).
Dear Microsoft:
Citation please. Evidence. Facts. Or retract.
'k thanks,
Google
I was surprised that the camera was still picking-up sound when it was 20 miles high. I thought the air would be too thin for the microphone to sense anything.
Oh. Well thanks for the detailed explanation of why the legal equivalent of muzzling a person (as if he were a slave instead of a freeman) is not an abridgment of liberty.
- "I merely hid the weapon. I did not fire it." - Lya of the Nox
- "Ah. Pretty fine line you didn't cross." - Captain Carter
- "Yes..... it is."
>>>Most people who actually give the ribbon a chance get used to it in about 2 weeks -
Wow. 2 weeks of my life wasted so I could save 1/4 second selecting my command. Yeah. Benjamin Franklin had a saying about that - "Penny wise; pound foolish," to describe people who count pennies but spend dollars recklessly.
>>>currency here in the UK that until 1971 was a total headfuck.
No offense but that really doesn't seem too difficult. A pound is divided into 20 shillings. That's equivalent to our system where one dollar is divided into 20 nickles. It's also how many digits a human being has.
Sub-dividing the shilling (or nickle) into 12 pieces is consistent with the idea of dividing a dozen into 12 units, although probably too small to be of any use today.
Oh good! I've been loyal to the Mozilla suite ever since the days of Mosaic and Netscape. I'm glad I won't have to switch to something else. Opera 10 is a decent alternative, but it has some annoying quirks (like loading half a page and stopping for no apparent reason). I still prefer Mozilla Firefox.
I've always wondered why they don't write programs in Assembly and make them fit inside 640 kilobyte spaces, like they used to do, but I guess that's called progress. (shrug)
>>>gt wth th txtng genrtn. & no i wnt gt off yr lwn
Shakespeare is dat u? I lovd ur ply. "O Romeo, denie thy Fathr: Vnto the white vpturned wondring eyes; Of mortalls that fall backe, When he bestrides the lazie puffing Cloudes, And sailes vpon the bosome of the ayre."
Brllint!
>>>people are bitching about Microsoft not maintaining backards compatibility...
Well I've tried and failed multiple times to make Wing Commander operate on Microsoft and failed spectacularly...... but never mind that. - Improvement is only an improvement if the overall usage is improved. Yeah I know you're probably thinking "No shit sherlock", but that basic idea is something many people overlook.
The current interface presents a nice CLEAN list of commands, which can be quickly and easily scanned. The new ribbon interface presents a confusing mess of pictures and words that make a "quick scan" very difficult. It's the computer equivalent of tacking an organized library, and just randomly tossing books everywhere. Yes the books might be neatly arranged, but they are still random to the eye, and finding the book you want becomes very difficult.
Put the books/menu commands back in a nice, serial order so the human eye can scan and find what it's looking for.
Yet another (whoosh). Let me rephrase - Nothing's more annoying than having spent 1 or 2 hundred dollars on [Insignia and Sony branded] gadgets, only to discover they won't work anymore when I upgrade to OS 10.6 or Itunes 9. This is why I would "just say no" to Apple in the future, and buy a PC instead.
>>>I see some TI branded stuff on it
(whoosh). I was talking about "lock in" where you buy a Texas Instruments computer, and then you buy a TI disk drive and a TI printer and a TI modem and a TI monitor and..... Back in the 70s and 80s you did not have the option to use other generic products.
>>>We're still being forced to buy it
Except we're not. If you really hate TI for some reason, you can buy a soundcard with parts made by some other company instead.
>>>Why couldn't Palm licence a plugin with Apple like BB and, yes, even MS do?
No idea, but I'm curious to see if somebody responds with the answer. Maybe because Palm didn't want to have to pay access to Itunes? (shrug)
+5 insightful. That's what most journalists do today - just publish the press release word-for-word, minus a few edits to make it fit inside the available column space or 1-minute soundbite. It's reached the point where you assume the journalists are just mouthpieces for the corporate liars (aka marketers).