You would change your tune if the content provider was youtube.com or hulu.com, and you discovered you're blocked from access because Your ISP refused to pay the required fee to these sites. Now are you starting to understand the situation?
Anonymous Ass said: >>>Maybe it was your use of "such that" that made you such a likely candidate for termination. >>>
If Shakespeare, who often carries the title "greatest english writer", can speak like this: "O Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo? Denie thy Father and refuse thy name: Or if thou wilt not, be but sworne to my Loue, And Ile no longer be a Capulet"
"'Tis but thy name that is my Enemy: Thou art thy selfe, though not a Mountague, What's Mountague? it is nor hand nor foote, Nor arme, nor face, O be some other name Belonging to a man. What? in a names that which we call a Rose, By any other word would smell as sweete, So Romeo would, were he not Romeo cal'd, Retaine that deare perfection which he owes, Without that title Romeo, doffe thy name, And for thy name which is no part of thee, Take all my selfe."...then surely I can say "such that".
I actually did land a job in California to start the last week of January..... but then a week before my start date they announced massive layoffs. So the contract was canceled before I even showed up!:-o
I don't think people realize how truly bad things were this past year. There's a reason some are calling it the "Second Depression". For those who don't know history, most engineers were unemployed during the previous depression. This time's better but not really any different.
>>>I wish you good luck, and the courage to hang on...
The government is paying me the equivalent of $14/hour unemployment. Of course back in April I mailed the government(s) $19,000 in taxes so I think I'm entitled to get that "refund" of what I paid. Anyway I'm doing well and enjoying my vacation to catch-up with games, books, and other things I never had time to do before.
>>>The inventor of FM made little or no money on his patents but his wife made out very well
That's about the same as saying Willy Loman in "Death of a Salesman" didn't make much money, but his widow lived well off the insurance money. It's a nice silver lining, but the story is still a tragedy.
>>>Whats so bad about them being in the hands of a corporation?
The Marvel and Disney corporations are affiliated with the MAFIAA who likes to send extortionate letters to citizens ("Pay $5000 or else"), and fine other citizens ~1 million dollars in court. That's what is bad.
Question - What part of "the ideal is to let these works become public domain" did you not comprehend? I agree with you, but given the choice between two evils I'd rather see the copyrights go to Jack's son (i.e. family) than a soulless megacorp.
Actually the Atari emulator called StellaX was a Linux program. It didn't crash but it didn't operate as well as the Windows version either, only handling 70% of the games in my collection. I've noticed a lot of Linux programs had that problem where they *almost* worked, but not quite.
>>>yeah that is stupid. I discovered the same using ark, if you try to unzip ten archives it'll start ten processes at the same time and go crazy trashing the disk instead of queuing them up. Stupid, stupid, stupid >>>
>>>Your ISP software is probably trying to change some windows network/dialup settings that don't exist in Linux, use the native broadband configuration. Your "web accelerator" is probably a http proxy setting so again it's trying to modify things that don't exist, use the native proxy configuration. >>>
That does sound easy.
You know what's easier?
Just use XP or MacOS. No need to conficker anything to make my ISP connect.
Opera 10 didn't exist back when I was trying to make my Linux laptop work, and no it doesn't work as well as the ISP's Web Accelerator which uses heavy compression to give an effective speed equal to my home 600k DSL connection.
>>>What is this? Some guy with a cross-temporal terminal? Why would anyone be interested in running that sort of thing in this day and age. You might as well whine about there being no version of Compuserve for Linux. >>>
Well let's think about this Anonymous smartass -
- I'm using a laptop, and where are laptops often used? While traveling from hotel-to-hotel. And what kinds of connections do hotels typically have? Phone lines. QED the need for a working 50k connection with the Web Accelerator. Without that ability the Linux laptop was basically worthless to me (which is why I eventually converted it back to XP). Got it?:-)
I wasn't talking about the out-of-the-box OS features. I was talking about the INability of Linux to run certain programs that Windows and MacOS have no problem with. i.e. Linux is buggy.
My ancient 1985 AmigaOS and C=64 GEOS have keyboard shortcuts, so keyboard shortcuts are not really anything innovative. It was understood that people coming from a DOS world might prefer to do everything via keyboard commands, just like they'd always done.
>>>"will it do everything that Windows will?" I explain that it will
I get annoyed when Linux users tell untruths simply to "sell" their product. Reminds me of certain Software vendors I've encountered at work with their "magic demos" which seem to do "everything", but the real product doesn't do half of what they demoed. Here's a few things Ubuntu Linux won't do:
- Connect to my ISP (the software connects and then crashes before I type my password) - Run my ISP's web accelerator software (simply doesn't run) - Run Internet Exploder (starts-up then crashes five minutes later) - Allow me to select 1000 songs, right-click on "open", and play those songs sequentially in VLC Player. Instead the stupid OS tries to open all 1000 songs at the same time. I had to yank the power cord to regain control. I haven't seen that level of poor design since AmigaOS 1.2 (1987). - Won't properly emulate Atari games via StellaX (which works 100% on Windows but only 70% on Linux) - Adjusted the screen size to 640x480, and when I tried to go back to normal 1280x1024 mode, discovered the desktop properties window did not fit the screen. Normally that'd be no big deal except the "OK" button was inaccessible so my laptop is now permanently stuck in 640x480. (Or at least it was until I wiped the c: drive with a fresh XP install.) - - And that's just what I discovered during my first month of usage.
And now I will be labeled "troll" because I'm a customer who speaks the truth. Salesmen hate customers who speak their minds. Better to silence them, so their complaints don't get heard by other customers. (You know like Apple does when they make exploding iphone users sign non-disclosure agreements.) I'm sorry but I've tried Ubuntu Linux, and rather than put-up with all the Non-user friendly problems listed above, I'll choose Windows or Mac OS.
Because then they'd lose their rights to Mickey Mouse, whose creator died 40 years ago. Heaven forbid Mickey fall into the public domain where anyone could use him to create fresh new stories. The horror. The horror.
You jest, but the RCA Corporation did *exactly* that in the 1930s with FM Radio. They were afraid it would kill their dominance in the AM market so they kept the FM intellectual property under wraps for as long as possible. And when the actual inventor tried to develop FM independently, they sued him again-and-again until he was a broken man. Not until he died did RCA bring FM to the marketplace.
Never underestimate corporate deviousness. It's as bad as government, minus the ability to send you to the jail, or suck money from your wallet.
Sound about rights. When I received the email from my manager (who also happened to be a contractor) which said, "Where's that circuit card design? If you can't do it, I'll find somebody who can," I knew for certain my time was up. I finished the design on Sunday morning and then sat-around surfing the net and watching my paycheck climb at $75 each hour. The axe fell two days later.
And I don't blame my manager, although that email threat was uncalled for. I blame the manager-of-the-manager-of-the-manager that made the idiotic promise to the U.S. government, "We'll have this whole crane design done by February 1." They were just trying to win themselves a 1 million dollar bonus, which I'm sure they never got. You simply can't do the impossible and even if you could, would YOU want to sit inside a crane that was designed in less than two months?
I've been out of work since January 6. Although I do receive calls for jobs, every one of those openings get around 1000 resumes (according to the headhunters I've talked to) such that the competition level is high (1 opening for 1000 engineers). I haven't had a single interview since March, and don't really expect to get one until January 2010 when new spending budgets arrive.
>>>And don't say there aren't any, since last month offers have been great as far as I can tell.
First off I'll say what I want (I'm a freeman). Second until you've tried looking for a job, you have no clue. You're just guessing.
You make a good point. ESPN makes most of its money by charging $3.00 per month per home (subscriber fees), and probably doesn't even care if their website succeeds or fails. In contrast most cable channels charge between 25 and 75 cents per home, and they need the extra cash earned from website hits.
The mystery is Disneyconnection.com. Why are they choosing an ISP-based model where Comcast customers (a big chunk of market) can not access the site. In my view Disney is hurting themselves.
>>>The satellites launched by NASA at a net loss with government funds?
I see your point. As I said the government has a right to regulate government-granted monopolies (like Comcast, Verizon, et cetera). Just one minor nit - satellites aren't launched by NASA. Virtually all of them are built by private companies and launched by private companies using private funds. Examples include the Sirius XM, Dish, and Directv satellites... all private.
>>>If you had attempted to read the article
You must be new here.;-) Slashdotters don't read the articles. But anyway yes I actually did read most of the article, so I could determine by what authority the FCC Chair claims he can regulate the nets. He seems to presume he has authority over everything, even the private network inside your home, and your private desktop PC. You didn't think of that did you? It's similar to how OSHA is trying to regulate people's home offices via random inspections.
>>>The FCC is protecting your rights in this instance.
Yes in this case they are, but they are harming my rights in other instances. Like when they tell cable channels they are not allowed to send nudity or cussing over the cables. I understand the need to censor the open radiowaves; I do Not understand the need to censor signals confined to a wire and only available by consent of the purchaser. I want to see Rome, Sopranos, and other cable shows on FX, TNT, et cetera without FCC-mandated editing.
They also legalized TV Band Devices, and unfortunately for me I live near a school. Now I have teens with ipod-like gadgets running through my neighborhood and broadcasting directly over TV channels I'm attempting to watch. I can be watching BBC News on PBS, and then suddenly it will disappear because some teen is walking past with a broadcasting device. This video is over-sensationalized, but it gives a good demo of what I'm dealing with. Thanks FCC:-( http://www.interferencezones.com/
We must always be vigilant of the FCC, and the U.S. in general.
So in effect you're saying the Congress can regulate anything from Amish quilts to clothes drives to corn growing in my own backyard, on the theory that it "affects" interstate commerce. We might as well dissolve the State Legislatures than, since they have nothing left to do. Congress will just run the whole continent.
So much for federalism.
Sandra Day O'Connor opined, "Federalism promotes innovation by allowing for the possibility that a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country..." Justice Thomas said, "This makes a mockery of Madison's assurance to the people of New York that the powers delegated to the Federal Government are 'few and defined', while those of the States are 'numerous and indefinite.'"
Comcast users can't get access to ESPN360.com or Disneyconnection.com, because Comcast didn't pay the access fee. I'd certainly say "yes" it's easier to pay with credit card and gain access, than to be completely blocked under the current situation.
And you might think this is just two websites, but what if the idea catches-on such that Comcast customers can no longer access youtube.com or hulu.com because Comcast chose not to pay those sites required fees? What do people do then? In many areas this company holds a monopoly.
The ultimate decision of what websites customers can access, or not access, should not be in the ISP's hands. It should be for the customer to decide. Power to the people.
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>>>Who cares?
You would change your tune if the content provider was youtube.com or hulu.com, and you discovered you're blocked from access because Your ISP refused to pay the required fee to these sites. Now are you starting to understand the situation?
Anonymous Ass said:
>>>Maybe it was your use of "such that" that made you such a likely candidate for termination.
>>>
If Shakespeare, who often carries the title "greatest english writer", can speak like this: "O Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo? Denie thy Father and refuse thy name: Or if thou wilt not, be but sworne to my Loue, And Ile no longer be a Capulet"
"'Tis but thy name that is my Enemy: Thou art thy selfe, though not a Mountague, What's Mountague? it is nor hand nor foote, Nor arme, nor face, O be some other name Belonging to a man. What? in a names that which we call a Rose, By any other word would smell as sweete, So Romeo would, were he not Romeo cal'd, Retaine that deare perfection which he owes, Without that title Romeo, doffe thy name, And for thy name which is no part of thee, Take all my selfe." ...then surely I can say "such that".
I actually did land a job in California to start the last week of January..... but then a week before my start date they announced massive layoffs. So the contract was canceled before I even showed up! :-o
I don't think people realize how truly bad things were this past year. There's a reason some are calling it the "Second Depression". For those who don't know history, most engineers were unemployed during the previous depression. This time's better but not really any different.
>>>I wish you good luck, and the courage to hang on...
The government is paying me the equivalent of $14/hour unemployment. Of course back in April I mailed the government(s) $19,000 in taxes so I think I'm entitled to get that "refund" of what I paid. Anyway I'm doing well and enjoying my vacation to catch-up with games, books, and other things I never had time to do before.
>>>The inventor of FM made little or no money on his patents but his wife made out very well
That's about the same as saying Willy Loman in "Death of a Salesman" didn't make much money, but his widow lived well off the insurance money. It's a nice silver lining, but the story is still a tragedy.
>>>Whats so bad about them being in the hands of a corporation?
The Marvel and Disney corporations are affiliated with the MAFIAA who likes to send extortionate letters to citizens ("Pay $5000 or else"), and fine other citizens ~1 million dollars in court. That's what is bad.
Question - What part of "the ideal is to let these works become public domain" did you not comprehend? I agree with you, but given the choice between two evils I'd rather see the copyrights go to Jack's son (i.e. family) than a soulless megacorp.
P.S.
Actually the Atari emulator called StellaX was a Linux program. It didn't crash but it didn't operate as well as the Windows version either, only handling 70% of the games in my collection. I've noticed a lot of Linux programs had that problem where they *almost* worked, but not quite.
>>>yeah that is stupid. I discovered the same using ark, if you try to unzip ten archives it'll start ten processes at the same time and go crazy trashing the disk instead of queuing them up. Stupid, stupid, stupid
>>>
Yep.
>>>Your ISP software is probably trying to change some windows network/dialup settings that don't exist in Linux, use the native broadband configuration. Your "web accelerator" is probably a http proxy setting so again it's trying to modify things that don't exist, use the native proxy configuration.
>>>
That does sound easy.
You know what's easier?
Just use XP or MacOS. No need to conficker anything to make my ISP connect.
>>>On Windows I used the tab key to get around it. Same method would of worked on Linux if you didn't know how to move the program bar.
Yeah except that it didn't. I tried tabbing and entering, but the Ubuntu desktop properties window did not cooperate
.
>>>No. Somehow, I don't really see most people on Slashdot thinking that way when they mark people as a troll.
At least 3 people marked my post troll.
Opera 10 didn't exist back when I was trying to make my Linux laptop work, and no it doesn't work as well as the ISP's Web Accelerator which uses heavy compression to give an effective speed equal to my home 600k DSL connection.
>>>What is this? Some guy with a cross-temporal terminal? Why would anyone be interested in running that sort of thing in this day and age. You might as well whine about there being no version of Compuserve for Linux.
>>>
Well let's think about this Anonymous smartass -
- I'm using a laptop, and where are laptops often used? While traveling from hotel-to-hotel. And what kinds of connections do hotels typically have? Phone lines. QED the need for a working 50k connection with the Web Accelerator. Without that ability the Linux laptop was basically worthless to me (which is why I eventually converted it back to XP). Got it? :-)
I wasn't talking about the out-of-the-box OS features. I was talking about the INability of Linux to run certain programs that Windows and MacOS have no problem with. i.e. Linux is buggy.
>>>you can thank Bill Gates for insisting on them
My ancient 1985 AmigaOS and C=64 GEOS have keyboard shortcuts, so keyboard shortcuts are not really anything innovative. It was understood that people coming from a DOS world might prefer to do everything via keyboard commands, just like they'd always done.
P.S.
Remember you said "it will do everything that Windows will". Everything means everything with virtually no exceptions.
>>>"will it do everything that Windows will?" I explain that it will
I get annoyed when Linux users tell untruths simply to "sell" their product. Reminds me of certain Software vendors I've encountered at work with their "magic demos" which seem to do "everything", but the real product doesn't do half of what they demoed. Here's a few things Ubuntu Linux won't do:
- Connect to my ISP (the software connects and then crashes before I type my password)
- Run my ISP's web accelerator software (simply doesn't run)
- Run Internet Exploder (starts-up then crashes five minutes later)
- Allow me to select 1000 songs, right-click on "open", and play those songs sequentially in VLC Player. Instead the stupid OS tries to open all 1000 songs at the same time. I had to yank the power cord to regain control. I haven't seen that level of poor design since AmigaOS 1.2 (1987).
- Won't properly emulate Atari games via StellaX (which works 100% on Windows but only 70% on Linux)
- Adjusted the screen size to 640x480, and when I tried to go back to normal 1280x1024 mode, discovered the desktop properties window did not fit the screen. Normally that'd be no big deal except the "OK" button was inaccessible so my laptop is now permanently stuck in 640x480. (Or at least it was until I wiped the c: drive with a fresh XP install.)
-
- And that's just what I discovered during my first month of usage.
And now I will be labeled "troll" because I'm a customer who speaks the truth. Salesmen hate customers who speak their minds. Better to silence them, so their complaints don't get heard by other customers. (You know like Apple does when they make exploding iphone users sign non-disclosure agreements.) I'm sorry but I've tried Ubuntu Linux, and rather than put-up with all the Non-user friendly problems listed above, I'll choose Windows or Mac OS.
Because then they'd lose their rights to Mickey Mouse, whose creator died 40 years ago. Heaven forbid Mickey fall into the public domain where anyone could use him to create fresh new stories. The horror. The horror.
You jest, but the RCA Corporation did *exactly* that in the 1930s with FM Radio. They were afraid it would kill their dominance in the AM market so they kept the FM intellectual property under wraps for as long as possible. And when the actual inventor tried to develop FM independently, they sued him again-and-again until he was a broken man. Not until he died did RCA bring FM to the marketplace.
Never underestimate corporate deviousness. It's as bad as government, minus the ability to send you to the jail, or suck money from your wallet.
Sound about rights. When I received the email from my manager (who also happened to be a contractor) which said, "Where's that circuit card design? If you can't do it, I'll find somebody who can," I knew for certain my time was up. I finished the design on Sunday morning and then sat-around surfing the net and watching my paycheck climb at $75 each hour. The axe fell two days later.
And I don't blame my manager, although that email threat was uncalled for. I blame the manager-of-the-manager-of-the-manager that made the idiotic promise to the U.S. government, "We'll have this whole crane design done by February 1." They were just trying to win themselves a 1 million dollar bonus, which I'm sure they never got. You simply can't do the impossible and even if you could, would YOU want to sit inside a crane that was designed in less than two months?
Not me.
I should have studied business. It's the managers, politicians, and lawyers who have all the power. We're just "human resources".
I've been out of work since January 6. Although I do receive calls for jobs, every one of those openings get around 1000 resumes (according to the headhunters I've talked to) such that the competition level is high (1 opening for 1000 engineers). I haven't had a single interview since March, and don't really expect to get one until January 2010 when new spending budgets arrive.
>>>And don't say there aren't any, since last month offers have been great as far as I can tell.
First off I'll say what I want (I'm a freeman).
Second until you've tried looking for a job,
you have no clue. You're just guessing.
You make a good point. ESPN makes most of its money by charging $3.00 per month per home (subscriber fees), and probably doesn't even care if their website succeeds or fails. In contrast most cable channels charge between 25 and 75 cents per home, and they need the extra cash earned from website hits.
The mystery is Disneyconnection.com. Why are they choosing an ISP-based model where Comcast customers (a big chunk of market) can not access the site. In my view Disney is hurting themselves.
>>>The satellites launched by NASA at a net loss with government funds?
I see your point. As I said the government has a right to regulate government-granted monopolies (like Comcast, Verizon, et cetera). Just one minor nit - satellites aren't launched by NASA. Virtually all of them are built by private companies and launched by private companies using private funds. Examples include the Sirius XM, Dish, and Directv satellites... all private.
>>>If you had attempted to read the article
You must be new here. ;-) Slashdotters don't read the articles. But anyway yes I actually did read most of the article, so I could determine by what authority the FCC Chair claims he can regulate the nets. He seems to presume he has authority over everything, even the private network inside your home, and your private desktop PC. You didn't think of that did you? It's similar to how OSHA is trying to regulate people's home offices via random inspections.
>>>The FCC is protecting your rights in this instance.
Yes in this case they are, but they are harming my rights in other instances. Like when they tell cable channels they are not allowed to send nudity or cussing over the cables. I understand the need to censor the open radiowaves; I do Not understand the need to censor signals confined to a wire and only available by consent of the purchaser. I want to see Rome, Sopranos, and other cable shows on FX, TNT, et cetera without FCC-mandated editing.
They also legalized TV Band Devices, and unfortunately for me I live near a school. Now I have teens with ipod-like gadgets running through my neighborhood and broadcasting directly over TV channels I'm attempting to watch. I can be watching BBC News on PBS, and then suddenly it will disappear because some teen is walking past with a broadcasting device. This video is over-sensationalized, but it gives a good demo of what I'm dealing with. Thanks FCC :-( http://www.interferencezones.com/
We must always be vigilant of the FCC, and the U.S. in general.
So in effect you're saying the Congress can regulate anything from Amish quilts to clothes drives to corn growing in my own backyard, on the theory that it "affects" interstate commerce. We might as well dissolve the State Legislatures than, since they have nothing left to do. Congress will just run the whole continent.
So much for federalism.
Sandra Day O'Connor opined, "Federalism promotes innovation by allowing for the possibility that a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country..." Justice Thomas said, "This makes a mockery of Madison's assurance to the people of New York that the powers delegated to the Federal Government are 'few and defined', while those of the States are 'numerous and indefinite.'"
>>>Could they just as easily charge you directly?
Comcast users can't get access to ESPN360.com or Disneyconnection.com, because Comcast didn't pay the access fee. I'd certainly say "yes" it's easier to pay with credit card and gain access, than to be completely blocked under the current situation.
And you might think this is just two websites, but what if the idea catches-on such that Comcast customers can no longer access youtube.com or hulu.com because Comcast chose not to pay those sites required fees? What do people do then? In many areas this company holds a monopoly.
The ultimate decision of what websites customers can access, or not access, should not be in the ISP's hands.
It should be for the customer to decide. Power to the people.