That's like saying I can ignore a ruling from a New York judge because I live in Maryland. That tactic might work at first, but the case will merely escalate to the U.S. level and I'll be in serious trouble.
Same applies here. If they don't comply, then the case will escalate to the E.U. level. There's a chance the higher court might reject the case and refuse to hear it, but you're still taking a big gamble.
Nice try, but sending a letter which states, "We are not able to attend," is proof that you received the summons. Of course it's bad form to just not show-up. That's considered an insult to the judge because you're wasting his time, and the proper thing would have been to ask for a postponement to a more-convenient time.
I think what we're witnessing here is a bunch of arrogant people who don't realize that pissing-off the judge tends to sway him to rule against you. If the Piratebay took a different tactic, like your typical politician of smiling even when you're filled with hate, they could probably convince the judge to come-over to their side.
"Play the victim" is also a valid tactic. - Poor, defenseless citizens being attacked by a big billion-dollar corporation. "C'mon judge, we'll be smashed like bugs if you don't help us out."
>>>Us Yanks already have Jango, last.fm, Pandora, etc
I've tried all of these and don't really like the results. For example if I type "Rihanna" because I want to hear some dance music, I get her, but I also get a lot of obscure music I've never heard before (read: boring).
>>>>>Now if only they'd distribute DRM Free lossless files online
>>>Actually they already do and every other record company does aswell. Lossless is probably just issue with the music stores.
So the original poster was correct. It's nearly impossible to buy lossless files online. If for example I wanted to get "Thriller", all I can get is the MP3 or AAC, which are both lossy.
Two cars running side-by-side mile-after-mile, and blocking other cars from passing, IS a safety problem. It's also illegal in my state ("left lane for passing only").
>>>Why did you choose to live so far from where you work exactly?
Not everyone is lucky enough to have a permanent job like you have. I used to be 25 minutes from my job, but the plant lost its Navy contract and laid-off about seventy engineers. That was five years ago.
Now I just do temporary year-long contract jobs, so rather than move every year, I just keep my home and move my body from place-to-place. During the week I live in a hotel, and come home on Fridays. (Which is an improvement, because my previous year-long job was 20 hours away in Oklahoma.)
>>>You appear to no longer be a science & tech news aggregator. Stories about copyright and censorship have come to dominate Slashdot. >>>
If you put a Bluray into your shiny-new player and it refuses to run due to copyright restrictions (aka DRM), then I'd say that's a technical problem and technical news.
The Greeks defined natural rights as an innate quality of being human. They then used as an example - putting a person inside a cage. That person will try to break-free, because humans have an instinctive to desire freedom. They have a "right" to be free, and not enslaved.
The Romans incorporated that Greek idea into their legal codes and elected Senate.
It was further developed by Scottish philosophers in the 1600s, which then formed the basis for the U.S. and French revolutions and their respective Rights documents, which were not creating rights but merely putting-onto-paper rights that already existed from the moment of creation.
I'm suggesting he sell his mansion and live in a house like a normal person. If he truly believes what he says in his movie, he should make this sacrifice. The fact that he isn't downsizing from mansion to house makes me suspect he's like a modern-day TV evangelist - more interested in the money he can earn selling the idea, than believing/following it.
Dubya Bush, for all his flaws, is at least honest. He thinks it's all a bunch of hooey.
Gore is playing the game of deception, and in my eye that makes him no better than a Jim Baker-type preacher.
Yeah well, I would love to get my hands on Volkswagen's new 250mpg commuter car (to be released end-of-this-year), but they refuse to sell it outside Germany. They are deliberately limiting access.
So instead I settle for a mere 70mpg Honda Insight. But I can't recommend it to friends, because it's no longer available. Honda discontinued it and replaced it with a standard 4-door version that gets a mere 45mpg.
So yes we CAN blame the industrialists, if only because they refuse to sell any cars higher than 45-50mpg to U.S. citizens.
>>>Given that the majority of CO2 is directly attributable to humans now
An OPINION (or for some people - religious belief) not a fact. You can not prove that CO2 levels are rising, or that humans are the cause. Hell this warming people started circa 1800, and we were just farmers back then. To quote a famous song, we didn't start the fire.
The warming was already in progress before we even burned our first drop of oil or coal.
Okay how about just since modern human history began?
There have been three warming periods. The first was circa 10,000 BC when the glaciers retreated, which created a revolution as humans moved from hunter-gathering to agricultural & civilization. The 2nd was around 4000-3000 BC when Egypt experienced a renaissance of power and was the west's first empire. In fact most modern cultures (Judeo-christian, greco-roman-european, chinese) trace their birth to this moment in time. The third warming spell happened during the late-Roman period and extended to 1250 A.D. (followed by a mini-ice age)
ALL natural events, not manmade, and I maintain the current spell from 1800 to now is merely a natural cycle. The rivers in cities like London and Philadelphia used to be clogged with ice (see the famous "Washington Crossing the Delaware" painting), and then around 1800 that became a thing of that past. Are you telling me the ice disappeared in 1800 because of something humans did?
I doubt that. In 1800 we were still farmers. It was a natural cycle, and we're still in the middle of that natural cycle.
>>>More like China and India will begin to outsource their work to USA/Europe
Not if oil costs $300+ per barrel. The shipping costs alone would make it cheaper to build Chinese goods by Chinese workers. (And vice-versa, it would be cheaper to build American/European goods by American/European workers.)
I find it amusing you discuss "edibles" as if you're a health nut, and then change the subject to energy drinks which are probably *the worst* thing you can do to your body (legally I mean). Energy drinks cause serious damage... not as bad as alchohol... but pretty-darn close.
You're better off drinking water or all-natural OJ.
>>>Try going to Walmart at about 11pm and you will see what he means...
I have done that, but I'm not so shallow as to judge a person's appearance. When I'm just casually walking-around, I too look like white trash to people like you. Nobody would ever know I earn $55/hour professionally. (Which is good; if you don't look rich, the crooks won't target you.)
>>>But today only 10,000 people who are do not have direct relatives are allowed to entry into the U.S.
This is a good policy. When the oil drought hits (circa 2020) with each barrel rising to $300 or higher, and society starts breaking-down, the United States will be wishing it had fewer citizens. It's easier to survive a crisis with 300 million people than with 600 million people.
And no I don't think alternative energies will provide enough power, for a cheap enough price, to be a solution. Without cheap oil, we'll be in serious shit. If you can't get the farmer's food to the city's market at a price people can afford, then they'll starve.
So bottom line - The U.S. should be seeking to *decrease* its population, not increase it.
First-off I don't think Walmart is a monopoly; it's just very dominant. In my review of history, I merely stated that people *claimed* in the 80s that Kmart was a monopoly, and that eventually Kmart crumbled and was replaced by a new scapegoat called Walmart, and eventually Walmart too will crumble, so there's no need to get your panties tied into a knot.
Now:
Obviously Walmart exerts a lot of power, but to claim it negatively-impacts society (as these people do), makes no sense to me. Saying Walmart forces all the other retailers to cut costs and prices is approximately-equivalent to saying "Apple negatively impacts the market because they produce a good, solid OS and thereby force everyone else to improve."
I think Walmart improves the market. Yeah the price-cutting forced stores like JCPenney and Sears to lay-off half their staff, but now they operate a much more-efficient "machine" where you can get the exact-same goods (example: Arizona jeans) that they sold in the 90s, but for 25% less money. Walmart is also helping Chinese/Indians rise out of the shit of farming, and get better jobs in factories. Eventually they'll be as well-off as we industrialized Europeans and Americans.
Walmart, like Apple, is pushing others to be better.
>>> I get paid WAY too much to just shut up and do stupid stuff. If they wanted someone who would just shut up they could find someone much cheaper....So I'll argue about it. I'll disagree with them. I'll be difficult... >>>
Yes but if your boss would rather argue than listen to your ideas, then he's also made clear that he just wants you to be a cog in a machine and do the work. I had a boss like that on my previous job, and I was all stressed-out (like him) because we keppt butting heads. Eventually I decided I'd rather be happy and unstressed, even if that means acting like a Walmart employee and simply saying, "Yes sir" all the time.
Like I said if the boss recommends something exceptionally stupid, then I'll propose an alternate idea, but I'm not going to shorten my life with fighting & high blood pressure. I'm not paid enough to bring-on heart disease and an early death.
Especially for something as trivial as a circuit card that will be obsolete in ten short years. If it was something that mattered, like rewriting the Constitution, then yeah I'll argue and debate and fight. But not for some dumb CCA. I'll just say "yessir" and collect my money like a good cog.
>>>stuff you don't care about? Let us know how that strategy works out for you after 10 or 20 wasted years.
Well let's see. I already have 0.3 million, and in another 20 years that will rise to 3 million dollars in my bank account. I'll be able to retire at age forty or forty-five, and then just work part-time on whatever technical jobs I enjoy. Ya know, like Benjamin Franklin did back in the 1700s.
As I said my job is just a means to an end - that being money and a big bank account.
If he's employed by Intel to work on Linux, then how come his boss let him just walk-away from doing his job? Sounds like grounds for termination (firing) to me. You get paid to do a job; you keep doing it as long as they keep paying you, even if you don't like it. You can't just "quit" and sit-around doing nothing.
>>>You just described why I mostly use commercial software. Because they take all my complaining with a smile and a nod and get to work.
Yeah well it's easy to smile when you're getting paid $2000 a week (or more with overtime). When you're not being paid as a volunteer for Linux or officer of a club, you start to wonder if there are better things you could be with your $0.00/hour payment. The answer is usually "yes" like laying on a beach, or watching TV, or partying with friends.
Heck even working at Walmart for $8/hour would be an improvement than listening to all the bitching club members/users. At least Walmart pays.
>>>I got skeptical with the anti-government rant and quit when you cited a fictional sci-fi television show for "evidence".
First-off I didn't cite it as evidence. I never used that word, despite you falsely-quoting it. Second, are you saying a lesson can never be learned from fiction? "A Modest Proposal" about serving children as food, never had any impact on society, or led to welfare programs for the children? AMP may have been fiction but it did make people stop-and-think.
All I was doing was expressing an opinion that reporters are pro-big government biased, and that you really can't believe what you see on the TV, because it's so easily distorted. I then cited "Illusion of Truth" not as evidence, but as a demonstration of how easy it is to chop-up what people say, rearrange those quotes, and turn them into a negative outcome. That was why the author wrote that episode - to make people stop and think.
If you prefer a real-world example, just watch "Bowling for Columbine" where the producer rather creatively takes 3 different Charles Heston speeches, rearranges them, and merges them together as one speech. What gives it away is the color of Heston's tie which changes from red to black to red in a mere two minutes time.
This producer won an award for his outstanding "reporting" but I call it biased, slanted, distorted. The evening news is no better, with their distortion of the truth (an illusion of truth), never once suggesting a less government solution, and instead always recommending more-and-more government. Clear bias.
At least with internet-based news reporting, instead of just hearing the one-sided view of the national megacorps, we'd get to hear a wide variety of views which is healthier for society.
>>>Look at the whole trans-fat thing for an example. Carcinogens added technologically as a preservative.
Not correct. Trans fat is no more dangerous than unsaturated or saturated fat, neither of which is carcinogenic (cancer-causing). The problem with trans fat is that it remains solid at room temperature. Even after it's been digested and converted to low-density "bad" cholesterol, it still keeps that property, and slowly but surely clogs your arteries.
So trans-fat causes blockages in your bloodstream, not cancer. I think of trans fat as being like "superduper-saturated" fat... i.e. the worst fat possible. Saturated fat is still pretty bad, and unsaturated fat is the best type (vegetable oils).
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That's like saying I can ignore a ruling from a New York judge because I live in Maryland. That tactic might work at first, but the case will merely escalate to the U.S. level and I'll be in serious trouble.
Same applies here. If they don't comply, then the case will escalate to the E.U. level. There's a chance the higher court might reject the case and refuse to hear it, but you're still taking a big gamble.
Nice try, but sending a letter which states, "We are not able to attend," is proof that you received the summons. Of course it's bad form to just not show-up. That's considered an insult to the judge because you're wasting his time, and the proper thing would have been to ask for a postponement to a more-convenient time.
I think what we're witnessing here is a bunch of arrogant people who don't realize that pissing-off the judge tends to sway him to rule against you. If the Piratebay took a different tactic, like your typical politician of smiling even when you're filled with hate, they could probably convince the judge to come-over to their side.
"Play the victim" is also a valid tactic. - Poor, defenseless citizens being attacked by a big billion-dollar corporation. "C'mon judge, we'll be smashed like bugs if you don't help us out."
>>>Us Yanks already have Jango, last.fm, Pandora, etc
I've tried all of these and don't really like the results. For example if I type "Rihanna" because I want to hear some dance music, I get her, but I also get a lot of obscure music I've never heard before (read: boring).
I can't get Spotify in the U.S. What are similar P2P music-streaming alternatives?
Ahhh, never mind. I'll just keep listening to AOL Radio. They stream my local Baltimore station's HD2 mix, which is good enough.
>>>>>Now if only they'd distribute DRM Free lossless files online
>>>Actually they already do and every other record company does aswell. Lossless is probably just issue with the music stores.
So the original poster was correct. It's nearly impossible to buy lossless files online. If for example I wanted to get "Thriller", all I can get is the MP3 or AAC, which are both lossy.
Two cars running side-by-side mile-after-mile, and blocking other cars from passing, IS a safety problem. It's also illegal in my state ("left lane for passing only").
>>>Why did you choose to live so far from where you work exactly?
Not everyone is lucky enough to have a permanent job like you have. I used to be 25 minutes from my job, but the plant lost its Navy contract and laid-off about seventy engineers. That was five years ago.
Now I just do temporary year-long contract jobs, so rather than move every year, I just keep my home and move my body from place-to-place. During the week I live in a hotel, and come home on Fridays. (Which is an improvement, because my previous year-long job was 20 hours away in Oklahoma.)
>>>You appear to no longer be a science & tech news aggregator. Stories about copyright and censorship have come to dominate Slashdot.
>>>
If you put a Bluray into your shiny-new player and it refuses to run due to copyright restrictions (aka DRM), then I'd say that's a technical problem and technical news.
The Greeks defined natural rights as an innate quality of being human. They then used as an example - putting a person inside a cage. That person will try to break-free, because humans have an instinctive to desire freedom. They have a "right" to be free, and not enslaved.
The Romans incorporated that Greek idea into their legal codes and elected Senate.
It was further developed by Scottish philosophers in the 1600s, which then formed the basis for the U.S. and French revolutions and their respective Rights documents, which were not creating rights but merely putting-onto-paper rights that already existed from the moment of creation.
>>>are you suggesting
I'm suggesting he sell his mansion and live in a house like a normal person. If he truly believes what he says in his movie, he should make this sacrifice. The fact that he isn't downsizing from mansion to house makes me suspect he's like a modern-day TV evangelist - more interested in the money he can earn selling the idea, than believing/following it.
Dubya Bush, for all his flaws, is at least honest. He thinks it's all a bunch of hooey.
Gore is playing the game of deception, and in my eye that makes him no better than a Jim Baker-type preacher.
Yeah well, I would love to get my hands on Volkswagen's new 250mpg commuter car (to be released end-of-this-year), but they refuse to sell it outside Germany. They are deliberately limiting access.
So instead I settle for a mere 70mpg Honda Insight. But I can't recommend it to friends, because it's no longer available. Honda discontinued it and replaced it with a standard 4-door version that gets a mere 45mpg.
So yes we CAN blame the industrialists, if only because they refuse to sell any cars higher than 45-50mpg to U.S. citizens.
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>>>Given that the majority of CO2 is directly attributable to humans now
An OPINION (or for some people - religious belief) not a fact. You can not prove that CO2 levels are rising, or that humans are the cause. Hell this warming people started circa 1800, and we were just farmers back then. To quote a famous song, we didn't start the fire.
The warming was already in progress before we even burned our first drop of oil or coal.
Okay how about just since modern human history began?
There have been three warming periods. The first was circa 10,000 BC when the glaciers retreated, which created a revolution as humans moved from hunter-gathering to agricultural & civilization. The 2nd was around 4000-3000 BC when Egypt experienced a renaissance of power and was the west's first empire. In fact most modern cultures (Judeo-christian, greco-roman-european, chinese) trace their birth to this moment in time. The third warming spell happened during the late-Roman period and extended to 1250 A.D. (followed by a mini-ice age)
ALL natural events, not manmade, and I maintain the current spell from 1800 to now is merely a natural cycle. The rivers in cities like London and Philadelphia used to be clogged with ice (see the famous "Washington Crossing the Delaware" painting), and then around 1800 that became a thing of that past. Are you telling me the ice disappeared in 1800 because of something humans did?
I doubt that. In 1800 we were still farmers. It was a natural cycle, and we're still in the middle of that natural cycle.
>>>More like China and India will begin to outsource their work to USA/Europe
Not if oil costs $300+ per barrel. The shipping costs alone would make it cheaper to build Chinese goods by Chinese workers. (And vice-versa, it would be cheaper to build American/European goods by American/European workers.)
I find it amusing you discuss "edibles" as if you're a health nut, and then change the subject to energy drinks which are probably *the worst* thing you can do to your body (legally I mean). Energy drinks cause serious damage... not as bad as alchohol... but pretty-darn close.
You're better off drinking water or all-natural OJ.
>>>Try going to Walmart at about 11pm and you will see what he means...
I have done that, but I'm not so shallow as to judge a person's appearance. When I'm just casually walking-around, I too look like white trash to people like you. Nobody would ever know I earn $55/hour professionally. (Which is good; if you don't look rich, the crooks won't target you.)
>>>But today only 10,000 people who are do not have direct relatives are allowed to entry into the U.S.
This is a good policy. When the oil drought hits (circa 2020) with each barrel rising to $300 or higher, and society starts breaking-down, the United States will be wishing it had fewer citizens. It's easier to survive a crisis with 300 million people than with 600 million people.
And no I don't think alternative energies will provide enough power, for a cheap enough price, to be a solution. Without cheap oil, we'll be in serious shit. If you can't get the farmer's food to the city's market at a price people can afford, then they'll starve.
So bottom line - The U.S. should be seeking to *decrease* its population, not increase it.
First-off I don't think Walmart is a monopoly; it's just very dominant. In my review of history, I merely stated that people *claimed* in the 80s that Kmart was a monopoly, and that eventually Kmart crumbled and was replaced by a new scapegoat called Walmart, and eventually Walmart too will crumble, so there's no need to get your panties tied into a knot.
Now:
Obviously Walmart exerts a lot of power, but to claim it negatively-impacts society (as these people do), makes no sense to me. Saying Walmart forces all the other retailers to cut costs and prices is approximately-equivalent to saying "Apple negatively impacts the market because they produce a good, solid OS and thereby force everyone else to improve."
I think Walmart improves the market. Yeah the price-cutting forced stores like JCPenney and Sears to lay-off half their staff, but now they operate a much more-efficient "machine" where you can get the exact-same goods (example: Arizona jeans) that they sold in the 90s, but for 25% less money. Walmart is also helping Chinese/Indians rise out of the shit of farming, and get better jobs in factories. Eventually they'll be as well-off as we industrialized Europeans and Americans.
Walmart, like Apple, is pushing others to be better.
One again I'll recommend watching Penn & Teller:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZfoNZd_HEk
Walmart Hatred is Bullshit
>>> I get paid WAY too much to just shut up and do stupid stuff. If they wanted someone who would just shut up they could find someone much cheaper....So I'll argue about it. I'll disagree with them. I'll be difficult...
>>>
Yes but if your boss would rather argue than listen to your ideas, then he's also made clear that he just wants you to be a cog in a machine and do the work. I had a boss like that on my previous job, and I was all stressed-out (like him) because we keppt butting heads. Eventually I decided I'd rather be happy and unstressed, even if that means acting like a Walmart employee and simply saying, "Yes sir" all the time.
Like I said if the boss recommends something exceptionally stupid, then I'll propose an alternate idea, but I'm not going to shorten my life with fighting & high blood pressure. I'm not paid enough to bring-on heart disease and an early death.
Especially for something as trivial as a circuit card that will be obsolete in ten short years. If it was something that mattered, like rewriting the Constitution, then yeah I'll argue and debate and fight. But not for some dumb CCA. I'll just say "yessir" and collect my money like a good cog.
>>>stuff you don't care about? Let us know how that strategy works out for you after 10 or 20 wasted years.
Well let's see. I already have 0.3 million, and in another 20 years that will rise to 3 million dollars in my bank account. I'll be able to retire at age forty or forty-five, and then just work part-time on whatever technical jobs I enjoy. Ya know, like Benjamin Franklin did back in the 1700s.
As I said my job is just a means to an end - that being money and a big bank account.
>>>wouldn't the answer be to download the TTY source code?
Yes that would be the answer. But that doesn't answer the question "where". I guess I'll go google for it and hope I stumble on the correct website.
If he's employed by Intel to work on Linux, then how come his boss let him just walk-away from doing his job? Sounds like grounds for termination (firing) to me. You get paid to do a job; you keep doing it as long as they keep paying you, even if you don't like it. You can't just "quit" and sit-around doing nothing.
>>>You just described why I mostly use commercial software. Because they take all my complaining with a smile and a nod and get to work.
Yeah well it's easy to smile when you're getting paid $2000 a week (or more with overtime). When you're not being paid as a volunteer for Linux or officer of a club, you start to wonder if there are better things you could be with your $0.00/hour payment. The answer is usually "yes" like laying on a beach, or watching TV, or partying with friends.
Heck even working at Walmart for $8/hour would be an improvement than listening to all the bitching club members/users. At least Walmart pays.
>>>I got skeptical with the anti-government rant and quit when you cited a fictional sci-fi television show for "evidence".
First-off I didn't cite it as evidence. I never used that word, despite you falsely-quoting it. Second, are you saying a lesson can never be learned from fiction? "A Modest Proposal" about serving children as food, never had any impact on society, or led to welfare programs for the children? AMP may have been fiction but it did make people stop-and-think.
All I was doing was expressing an opinion that reporters are pro-big government biased, and that you really can't believe what you see on the TV, because it's so easily distorted. I then cited "Illusion of Truth" not as evidence, but as a demonstration of how easy it is to chop-up what people say, rearrange those quotes, and turn them into a negative outcome. That was why the author wrote that episode - to make people stop and think.
If you prefer a real-world example, just watch "Bowling for Columbine" where the producer rather creatively takes 3 different Charles Heston speeches, rearranges them, and merges them together as one speech. What gives it away is the color of Heston's tie which changes from red to black to red in a mere two minutes time.
This producer won an award for his outstanding "reporting" but I call it biased, slanted, distorted. The evening news is no better, with their distortion of the truth (an illusion of truth), never once suggesting a less government solution, and instead always recommending more-and-more government. Clear bias.
At least with internet-based news reporting, instead of just hearing the one-sided view of the national megacorps, we'd get to hear a wide variety of views which is healthier for society.
>>>Look at the whole trans-fat thing for an example. Carcinogens added technologically as a preservative.
Not correct. Trans fat is no more dangerous than unsaturated or saturated fat, neither of which is carcinogenic (cancer-causing). The problem with trans fat is that it remains solid at room temperature. Even after it's been digested and converted to low-density "bad" cholesterol, it still keeps that property, and slowly but surely clogs your arteries.
So trans-fat causes blockages in your bloodstream, not cancer. I think of trans fat as being like "superduper-saturated" fat... i.e. the worst fat possible. Saturated fat is still pretty bad, and unsaturated fat is the best type (vegetable oils).