It could be that if Microsoft doesn't get it's ass in gear and either Cocoa-ify IE, or fix whatever is wrong with the Carbon version (which may turn out to be Carbon itself from what Siracuse writes), then when OS X starts shipping in significant quantity, OmniWeb may just start eroding IE's marketshare. . .
Where's Netscape? SOL. er, I mean AOL.
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Feng Shui is a scam invented by furniture salesmen to make spending enormous amounts of money on trendy furniture and redecorating seem "new age" and "spiritual" and "multicultural".
The thing is, I think that the pundits do not believe that their readership understands what NeXT is/was. They think it's a CS-academic-geek-trivia thing, and that most people are more likely to understand what BSD is.
Also, BSD is like, in with all the GNU/OpenSource/Linux stuff, so it's 1337.
My wife owns an iMac, and those Harmon/Kardons aren't all that.
they're okay, they get the job done, but you really don't want to listen to music without an additional subwoofer. There's just no bass at all to those things.
gosh, it would be nice if Quartz were optimized for a single 3d card, like ATI for instance? Seeing as how pretty much all Macs have at least an ATI built in.
Should they have held-off? No, this ball needs to get rolling and now. It's not just Mac users that have been denied the OS that X is destined to become, it's the entire world that's dying for an OS that "does not suck". It's our last, best hope.
Companies like Adobe clearly are needing some kind of incentive to get off their asses and carbonize apps. A 1.0 release is as good an incentive as any.
I consider myself an early adopter, but I'm not buying OS X, I'm sticking with 9.1 because I was not impressed with performance of PB on my 300MHz beige G3. Reports are mixed about performance now, but I'm not expecting that I'll be one of the lucky ones like the guys who say it screams on their 233 MHz Rev A iMac. So I'm going to wait, maybe 6 months, maybe a year, until a little more maturity, more drivers, and more apps are there, and by then maybe the stock market will have recovered enough so I can afford new hardware to run it on.;)
I don't know what the deal is with my particular system;
Win2k Pro, SP1, Dell PE1300 P III 600MHz 256meg RAM -
But ever since I loaded IE 5.5, it's actually SLOWER to launch than Netscape 4.73. I don't mind the crashes all that much anymore.
(this problem also affects Word; so much for wonderful "shared libraries")
Maybe they need to engineer some kind of license control into these seeds so they will not grow in unlicensed fields.
I mean, it's as if Microsoft first engineered windows to find other machines on the network and install itself on the other machines, then went around suing people for license violations. Fucking bunch of bullshit, and I hope that judge suffers a ruptured bowel from cronic constipation.
mabye if this technology were truly beneficial to mankind, and needed, and important, this kind of research should be nationalized.
Because the alternative; a government enforced private monopoly on gene-modified plants, is obviously not a good solution - this story is proof enough of that. It can't be controlled, and the control requires abusive power. There are some businesses that human beings apparently just can't handle.
well, I am not a lawyer, and I'd like to correct your statement. It is certainly within the police power of the state to do anything they fucking want. They have guns and bombs and tanks and planes. Do as they say or you'll disappear.
Pinochet was a proof-of-concept awaiting implementation.
yeah! let's start our own HyperCard Open Source project! Fuck Apple! Then in 10 years, we can have the functionality of software that was obsolete 10 years ago. That's progress!
When I first got into macs in 1994, I tried out this wierd little hypercard thingie. I downloaded a few stacks.
It crashed, it hung, it did wierd things to my screen, none of the stacks did anything really useful.
It didn't look like it had the potential to do anything that waasn't being done much better by any one of a dozen other technologies. I was glad when Apple announced it was end of lifed.
Well, perhaps these kids are just out of control because they have too many bad thetans? Bring your troubled teens (and checkbooks) to our Church, (TM) and we'll apply some of our special techniques to rid them of these bad thetans, so they can get on the path towards being "clear", as the great genius L. Ron taught us!
Name one AGE of human history where life was revered and respected. Stop kidding yourself. Society and civilization is an illusion we all try to pull off to forget about the law of the jungle. But no matter how much of it we pave over, the jungle remains. No biblical scripture, no laws, no touchy-feely talk will EVER change that one fact of reality. Get over it.
We can as individuals, try to act civilized and pretend we give a damn what happens to our neighbors, but the societal problem as a whole is not going to change because you wish we all cared.
When I was in HS back in the 70's the solution was not to go on a killing spree, but killing sprees happened, and have happened since time immemorial. The newsmedias coverage may have made it more common and frequent, but the root cause remains the same. The solution when I was in HS, was not to go on a killing spree, but ask anyone who was in this situation back then and most of them will tell you that they thought about it. Fantasized about it. Wrote about it. Drew cartoons about it. It's hard to judge a life as sacred and revered when you're treated as a subhuman for no other reason than you think for yourself. Why not read the hundreds of posts here supporting these points? Moron.
The bit about daycare and kids learning to socialize by the law of the jungle, I think you're stretching it.
And also the bit about "the me generation". Every "generation" as a group, tries to characterize itself as somehow different and better than the preceeding and following generations. Human nature. Duh. "my homeez is better dan your homeez". They're no different than any other humans.
However, the general overall trend of this industrialized society is, from large families with dozens of kids, where individuals are less valued than the family, towards families with fewer and fewer kids, greater competition for industrial and service industry jobs, and therefore, more intrusion into time that would otherwise be spent socializing kids for the group. Part of that is the demands of life in this age, and part of it is declining fertility rates. We don't know what causes that yet. The large family, etc. Now, individualism becomes more and more a factor, which in of itself is not a bad thing - it's the lack of guidance in that individualistic leaning, I think, that's a bad thing. And it's simply a side effect of industrialization.
Fewer kids do mean that the parents have less kids to divide their attention upon, but sometimes that means that they have more time to spend on their own pursuits, like their careers. And competition in the labor market drives that to extremes. Making matters worse, parents often compensate materially. That is, they take their stock options, cash them in, and buy their only child a pony. Spoiled fucking little brats.
Another BAD factor, in my opinion, is when people wait until they're 40 to start having kids. How is a 50 year old going to identify with a 10 year old? Or a 55 year old with a 15 year old? I personally think it should be a crime to have a kid after age 30. How are these kids going to develop the emotional skills to deal with situations like, that kid over there stole my legos and scratched me? TV? And the kids don't have as many brothers and sisters to identify with, or learn from. Who can they commiserate with? A 45 year old?
Then, when this little individual begins to join society, and is asked to conform, if they can't or won't, the wolfpack chases them out. How the fuck do you think they're going to deal with it?
I hate that my kid's best freind is a lying little spoiled punk, and that I am more of a parent to him than his parents are. Fucking pisses me off when rich people have kids because it was on their list of things to do.
if you open up the definition further, "arms" can be economic. or even laws.
Imagine that #43 signs a law that relaxes the amount of MTBE that is allowed in drinking water by 500 parts per million, and as a result, one additional person each year, statistically, will die.
Now imagine that the law was not signed, and that the chemical company that made MTBE had to shut down operations because cleaning up the enviornment was too costly for them to pursue MTBE production, and 50 families were unemployed, and statistically, that means that two of these guys were going to die robbing a liquor store in an attempt to make their house payment.
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It could be that if Microsoft doesn't get it's ass in gear and either Cocoa-ify IE, or fix whatever is wrong with the Carbon version (which may turn out to be Carbon itself from what Siracuse writes), then when OS X starts shipping in significant quantity, OmniWeb may just start eroding IE's marketshare. . .
Where's Netscape? SOL. er, I mean AOL.
Feng Shui is a scam invented by furniture salesmen to make spending enormous amounts of money on trendy furniture and redecorating seem "new age" and "spiritual" and "multicultural".
The thing is, I think that the pundits do not believe that their readership understands what NeXT is/was. They think it's a CS-academic-geek-trivia thing, and that most people are more likely to understand what BSD is.
Also, BSD is like, in with all the GNU/OpenSource/Linux stuff, so it's 1337.
So they say BSD.
My wife owns an iMac, and those Harmon/Kardons aren't all that.
they're okay, they get the job done, but you really don't want to listen to music without an additional subwoofer. There's just no bass at all to those things.
gosh, it would be nice if Quartz were optimized for a single 3d card, like ATI for instance? Seeing as how pretty much all Macs have at least an ATI built in.
;)
Should they have held-off? No, this ball needs to get rolling and now. It's not just Mac users that have been denied the OS that X is destined to become, it's the entire world that's dying for an OS that "does not suck". It's our last, best hope.
Companies like Adobe clearly are needing some kind of incentive to get off their asses and carbonize apps. A 1.0 release is as good an incentive as any.
I consider myself an early adopter, but I'm not buying OS X, I'm sticking with 9.1 because I was not impressed with performance of PB on my 300MHz beige G3. Reports are mixed about performance now, but I'm not expecting that I'll be one of the lucky ones like the guys who say it screams on their 233 MHz Rev A iMac. So I'm going to wait, maybe 6 months, maybe a year, until a little more maturity, more drivers, and more apps are there, and by then maybe the stock market will have recovered enough so I can afford new hardware to run it on.
I don't know what the deal is with my particular system;
Win2k Pro, SP1, Dell PE1300 P III 600MHz 256meg RAM -
But ever since I loaded IE 5.5, it's actually SLOWER to launch than Netscape 4.73. I don't mind the crashes all that much anymore.
(this problem also affects Word; so much for wonderful "shared libraries")
Maybe they need to engineer some kind of license control into these seeds so they will not grow in unlicensed fields.
I mean, it's as if Microsoft first engineered windows to find other machines on the network and install itself on the other machines, then went around suing people for license violations. Fucking bunch of bullshit, and I hope that judge suffers a ruptured bowel from cronic constipation.
no.
Monsanto's business plan CAN work if they get enough lawyers and lobbyists, and pay off enough judges.
It can work very well.
Nominated for the coveted Golden Modem award, Best Post of the Year, by the Academy of Slashdot Trolls and Flamers.
mabye if this technology were truly beneficial to mankind, and needed, and important, this kind of research should be nationalized.
Because the alternative; a government enforced private monopoly on gene-modified plants, is obviously not a good solution - this story is proof enough of that. It can't be controlled, and the control requires abusive power. There are some businesses that human beings apparently just can't handle.
well, I am not a lawyer, and I'd like to correct your statement. It is certainly within the police power of the state to do anything they fucking want. They have guns and bombs and tanks and planes. Do as they say or you'll disappear.
Pinochet was a proof-of-concept awaiting implementation.
yeah! let's start our own HyperCard Open Source project! Fuck Apple! Then in 10 years, we can have the functionality of software that was obsolete 10 years ago. That's progress!
When I first got into macs in 1994, I tried out this wierd little hypercard thingie. I downloaded a few stacks.
It crashed, it hung, it did wierd things to my screen, none of the stacks did anything really useful.
It didn't look like it had the potential to do anything that waasn't being done much better by any one of a dozen other technologies. I was glad when Apple announced it was end of lifed.
just let it die, please.
There is nothing Hypercard can do that PDF and web technologies can't do better.
Why do we need another proprietary one-platform standard?
Well, perhaps these kids are just out of control because they have too many bad thetans? Bring your troubled teens (and checkbooks) to our Church, (TM) and we'll apply some of our special techniques to rid them of these bad thetans, so they can get on the path towards being "clear", as the great genius L. Ron taught us!
You must be British!
Yup! It's a subversive attempt to make Americans' teeth look as bad as the Brits'!
oh shut the fuck up!
Name one AGE of human history where life was revered and respected. Stop kidding yourself. Society and civilization is an illusion we all try to pull off to forget about the law of the jungle. But no matter how much of it we pave over, the jungle remains. No biblical scripture, no laws, no touchy-feely talk will EVER change that one fact of reality. Get over it.
We can as individuals, try to act civilized and pretend we give a damn what happens to our neighbors, but the societal problem as a whole is not going to change because you wish we all cared.
When I was in HS back in the 70's the solution was not to go on a killing spree, but killing sprees happened, and have happened since time immemorial. The newsmedias coverage may have made it more common and frequent, but the root cause remains the same. The solution when I was in HS, was not to go on a killing spree, but ask anyone who was in this situation back then and most of them will tell you that they thought about it. Fantasized about it. Wrote about it. Drew cartoons about it. It's hard to judge a life as sacred and revered when you're treated as a subhuman for no other reason than you think for yourself. Why not read the hundreds of posts here supporting these points? Moron.
I'm working on it. . .
Every time one of these teased kids goes postal, it enforces the notion;
"an armed society is a polite society"
not every fulltime housewife wants to be a good parent either. My mother-in-law is perfect proof of that.
The bit about daycare and kids learning to socialize by the law of the jungle, I think you're stretching it.
And also the bit about "the me generation". Every "generation" as a group, tries to characterize itself as somehow different and better than the preceeding and following generations. Human nature. Duh. "my homeez is better dan your homeez". They're no different than any other humans.
However, the general overall trend of this industrialized society is, from large families with dozens of kids, where individuals are less valued than the family, towards families with fewer and fewer kids, greater competition for industrial and service industry jobs, and therefore, more intrusion into time that would otherwise be spent socializing kids for the group. Part of that is the demands of life in this age, and part of it is declining fertility rates. We don't know what causes that yet. The large family, etc. Now, individualism becomes more and more a factor, which in of itself is not a bad thing - it's the lack of guidance in that individualistic leaning, I think, that's a bad thing. And it's simply a side effect of industrialization.
Fewer kids do mean that the parents have less kids to divide their attention upon, but sometimes that means that they have more time to spend on their own pursuits, like their careers. And competition in the labor market drives that to extremes. Making matters worse, parents often compensate materially. That is, they take their stock options, cash them in, and buy their only child a pony. Spoiled fucking little brats.
Another BAD factor, in my opinion, is when people wait until they're 40 to start having kids. How is a 50 year old going to identify with a 10 year old? Or a 55 year old with a 15 year old? I personally think it should be a crime to have a kid after age 30. How are these kids going to develop the emotional skills to deal with situations like, that kid over there stole my legos and scratched me? TV? And the kids don't have as many brothers and sisters to identify with, or learn from. Who can they commiserate with? A 45 year old?
Then, when this little individual begins to join society, and is asked to conform, if they can't or won't, the wolfpack chases them out. How the fuck do you think they're going to deal with it?
unfortunately, not every kid is going to have the emotional skills to deal with that.
I hate that my kid's best freind is a lying little spoiled punk, and that I am more of a parent to him than his parents are. Fucking pisses me off when rich people have kids because it was on their list of things to do.
I drew cartoons of the people I hated getting killed by fiendishly ingenious devices.
if you open up the definition further, "arms" can be economic. or even laws.
Imagine that #43 signs a law that relaxes the amount of MTBE that is allowed in drinking water by 500 parts per million, and as a result, one additional person each year, statistically, will die.
Now imagine that the law was not signed, and that the chemical company that made MTBE had to shut down operations because cleaning up the enviornment was too costly for them to pursue MTBE production, and 50 families were unemployed, and statistically, that means that two of these guys were going to die robbing a liquor store in an attempt to make their house payment.
Why can't I keep and bear THOSE arms?