If you look at what WinCE is supposed to be; a Microsoft STRATEGIC MOVE, it was done as quickly and as cheaply as possible to give MS a product to offer in the handheld/settop market, to prevent possible competitors from making an end-run around the PC.
If your project's #1 priority is "get something out there fast!!" it's not going to result in clean or elegant code.
Needless to say, this is probably the most common #1 priority among commercial software products in this industry.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Actually, under UCITA, I can revoke their license to MY genes at any time I feel they are violating it. I wonder if I can retroactively revoke my childrens' genes (effectively mine) if I think they're illegally copying them or sharing them with someone else?
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Well, actually, the French did it first, but the UK/USA alliance used Echelon to STEAL it from them, because the French were bribing the Argentinians to use their gene maps. ..
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Well, to compare this to say, opening the source code to a mythical "one common OS that everyone uses", some folks are nervous about that sort of thing because those BAAAAD hackers out there will write nasty bugs to break into your systems and steal all your pr0n, and email it to your mother. Then the good hackers out there, who also have the source-code can engineer a fix - thus the benefits of open-source goodness.
But the human genome is a different animal. It was not engineered with security and robustness in mind. If BAAAAAD gene-hackers found a way to engineer a nasty bug that would break into your DNA and make you pee blue, or *worse*, who's to say that there is a community of white-hat gene-hackers out there who can quickly engineer a fix? Who's to say that this won't ultimately expose a weakness in the human race that some wacko can exploit indiscriminately?
It has a HUGE potential for abuse, and saying "oh good, they're doing the open source thing" isn't going to erase the fact that lots and lots of people could theoretically die. The science-minded out there think this is a great thing, but they forget that they are WAY outnumbered by the political-minded (and non-minded), and that such power can be used for good or for evil - just like any technology back to the stone axe (hm. I wonder why there aren't any neandrethals around anymore?). The fact that YOU know that YOU wont engineer a nasty race-erasing virus doesn't mean nobody else can't or wont.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
There's another way MTBE is making it into the environment. All the folks with boats and jet skis spill their gasoline in the water. (the engines leak it, it gets spilled when refilling tanks, etc), and the levels of MTBE in the lakes (many of which, in California are resivoirs), have risen alarmingly in the past 3 years.
oops is right.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Your $700 machine is obsolete, because you're not going to be running W2K on it. Not effectively anyways.
PS. I brought in over $100k last year, and I just bought a $4500 Sun Ultra 10, so don't go talking about things you have no idea about. I'd just prefer an OS that lets you spend money on hardware for performance improvement, not spend more money for the same or worse performance, and I'd like hardware to be useful past a 2-year horizon. In an NT network, if you go W2K, if you want to take advantage of most of the new features, you need to run CaptiveDirectory, so you have to be homogeneous with respect to OS, which means the Pentium 200 you used to run NT 4 on gets shitcanned. With Linux, when you buy your shiny new dual Xeon 500, you can keep your Pentium 200 around as a DNS server or something. There's a difference between demanding cheap, rock-bottom priced systems, and demanding value for your hardware dollar.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Sorry, I just can't resist. So, Microsoft has this "pure science" R&D department they've spent billions on, and they still haven't come up with anything as neat as this in all these years (oh, sorry, talking paperclip). Yet, Moto comes along, thinking, hey, we could sell more cell phone chips if people thought they could use them without running their batteries dead after 2 hours. ..
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Yes the game rocked, great sci-fi story, great networking, LOVED the double-barreled shotgun (with Terminator2-sytle cocking), even better was one of those in either hand - lots o pain!
BUT - it was very frustrating that you could neither jump nor duck in this game. If you wanted to jump, you had to "grenade hop". Kind of lame for a character that's supposedly the ultimate killer cyborg. Also, the only decent weapon for area coverage (grenade launcher), SUCKED as a combat weapon - it was attached as an over-under to the most inaccurate automatic rifle ever imagined. Plus, it did very little in the way of damage. Now, do an over-under with a flechette gun, and THEN you'd have a decent weapon. (also would have been nice if grenades came in varieties; smokers, armor peircing, antipersonnel, etc.) I also was a bit disappointed in Marathon Infinity, at the poor quality of the video. Other games were doing way better at that time. Marathon Infinity had almost no improvement over Marathon 2 in graphics. It was just some tweaks to the physics models and a new set of levels.
BTW - Bungie does have a super-kick-ass new game in development called Halo, and from the movies and screen shots I've seen, it will totally blow everything else away.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
"IE technology & IIS etc are important to windows 2000 cause they provide objects and libraries that are used as other parts of the OS."
A **RESPONSIBLE** OS vendor would ship the libraries and objects SEPARATELY from the application, allowing people to install the libraries and objects, and use whatever web browser and web server applications they want.
Applications != Objects and Libraries.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
the term "bloated" refers to a lot of things, but mainly, to the fact that the bar is raised with each release with regard to minimum hardware requirements. W2K's minimum hardware requirements are fairly astronomical. When you run it on low-end hardware, it is slow as hell. And in the Microsoft-run training class I took, we couldn't get half the machines to install DNS, and therefore couldn't get ActiveDirectory to run on those machines, and therefore couldn't install most of the nifty new cool spiffy features Win2K supposedly has.
It's a big bloated piece of POO, unless you can buy shiny new very expensive Intel hardware to run it on.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
I was at a startup, I've been with the company technically 8 years. Through various mergers and aquisitions, the first set of stock options paid off to the tune of about $3000. Basically toilet paper. Then new options were granted. Not to be a sceptic, but the people who were running the company were connivers, and they were just trying to scam the board. Through some major structural changes, it became obvious that these bozos never had any intention of going public. Or maybe they knew we never had a chance. But they pretty much structured us for a sale. Luckily, this story has a happy ending. I gambled, big time, by staying with the company through a huge layoff and restructuring. Most of the people I worked with had the option to BUY their options, (just what had vested at the time), but most didn't. A year later, we DID get bought. And by a nicely successful company. The stock has been on a rocket ride ever since.
About two years ago, before we were bought, I was thinking maybe we'd go public and I'd be able to like pay off my credit cards or something. This December, I calculated my options' value. I have made my first million. (this includes some unvested options). Not bad for someone who dropped out of art school. No degree. Now, I'm not saying I'm not worth my salt. Other old-timers, especially the schemers who set this whole thing up in the first place, made out like freakin bandits. Some guys are talking about buying lear jets, etc. You gotta love this industry. You just gotta.
On the other hand, I feel really, really bad about the guys who got laid off two years ago, and didn't get to keep their options.
What others have posted here - you gotta look at the risks and such - but most of all, you gotta look at the salary they ARE offering you. Is it enough to live on comfortably? If it squeezes you, try to negotiate for more options if you can. If your gamble pays off, you'll be very happy about it later!
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Okay, define "a good sum of money" to the world's richest man?
What is "a good sum of money" to you and I, or even the elitest wealthy elite, is pocket-change to Gates.
Um - for that matter, I have a big interest in biotechnology too. whoop-de-doo. I still say Gates' interest is in owning everything and being a god. Maybe he thinks he can pay to have his immortatlity engineered. But I really think he just wants to own everyone's DNA.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
naw, sounds like MS finally got sick of their team of bozo lawyers. ("You WHAT? You backdoored the DOJ's web server to deface the picture of Janet Reno? You MORONS? I don't care if you did it to prove that Apache was more secure and that Open Source was a viable competitor!")
They fired them for the Caldera suit: (Microsoft settles Caldera suit out of court) and now they apparently are doing the same for the DOJ case. I wonder why they didn't wait until a Friday after close of business or something?
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Heh. If I had that much money, I'd permanently rent out the top floor of Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, and throw a permanent party, with the finest hookers permanently on staff. Not much would get me out of bed in the morning there. . .
What would YOU do with the rest of your life with $60-plus Billion?
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
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This does not suprise me.
If you look at what WinCE is supposed to be; a Microsoft STRATEGIC MOVE, it was done as quickly and as cheaply as possible to give MS a product to offer in the handheld/settop market, to prevent possible competitors from making an end-run around the PC.
If your project's #1 priority is "get something out there fast!!" it's not going to result in clean or elegant code.
Needless to say, this is probably the most common #1 priority among commercial software products in this industry.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Yes! It's a mass-murder attempt by Microsoft. This code is actually a "Killing Joke"!
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
. . . or whenever I'm feeling "creeped-out", I still hear the soundtrack from the sniper-scene in Full Metal Jacket. . .
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Hey!
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Actually, under UCITA, I can revoke their license to MY genes at any time I feel they are violating it. I wonder if I can retroactively revoke my childrens' genes (effectively mine) if I think they're illegally copying them or sharing them with someone else?
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Well, actually, the French did it first, but the UK/USA alliance used Echelon to STEAL it from them, because the French were bribing the Argentinians to use their gene maps. . .
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Well, to compare this to say, opening the source code to a mythical "one common OS that everyone uses", some folks are nervous about that sort of thing because those BAAAAD hackers out there will write nasty bugs to break into your systems and steal all your pr0n, and email it to your mother. Then the good hackers out there, who also have the source-code can engineer a fix - thus the benefits of open-source goodness.
But the human genome is a different animal. It was not engineered with security and robustness in mind. If BAAAAAD gene-hackers found a way to engineer a nasty bug that would break into your DNA and make you pee blue, or *worse*, who's to say that there is a community of white-hat gene-hackers out there who can quickly engineer a fix? Who's to say that this won't ultimately expose a weakness in the human race that some wacko can exploit indiscriminately?
It has a HUGE potential for abuse, and saying "oh good, they're doing the open source thing" isn't going to erase the fact that lots and lots of people could theoretically die. The science-minded out there think this is a great thing, but they forget that they are WAY outnumbered by the political-minded (and non-minded), and that such power can be used for good or for evil - just like any technology back to the stone axe (hm. I wonder why there aren't any neandrethals around anymore?). The fact that YOU know that YOU wont engineer a nasty race-erasing virus doesn't mean nobody else can't or wont.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
There's another way MTBE is making it into the environment. All the folks with boats and jet skis spill their gasoline in the water. (the engines leak it, it gets spilled when refilling tanks, etc), and the levels of MTBE in the lakes (many of which, in California are resivoirs), have risen alarmingly in the past 3 years.
oops is right.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
They won't be out of movies. They'll just run out of bandwidth.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Your $700 machine is obsolete, because you're not going to be running W2K on it. Not effectively anyways.
PS. I brought in over $100k last year, and I just bought a $4500 Sun Ultra 10, so don't go talking about things you have no idea about. I'd just prefer an OS that lets you spend money on hardware for performance improvement, not spend more money for the same or worse performance, and I'd like hardware to be useful past a 2-year horizon. In an NT network, if you go W2K, if you want to take advantage of most of the new features, you need to run CaptiveDirectory, so you have to be homogeneous with respect to OS, which means the Pentium 200 you used to run NT 4 on gets shitcanned. With Linux, when you buy your shiny new dual Xeon 500, you can keep your Pentium 200 around as a DNS server or something.
There's a difference between demanding cheap, rock-bottom priced systems, and demanding value for your hardware dollar.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Sorry, I just can't resist. .
So, Microsoft has this "pure science" R&D department they've spent billions on, and they still haven't come up with anything as neat as this in all these years (oh, sorry, talking paperclip).
Yet, Moto comes along, thinking, hey, we could sell more cell phone chips if people thought they could use them without running their batteries dead after 2 hours. .
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Yes the game rocked, great sci-fi story, great networking, LOVED the double-barreled shotgun (with Terminator2-sytle cocking), even better was one of those in either hand - lots o pain!
BUT -
it was very frustrating that you could neither jump nor duck in this game. If you wanted to jump, you had to "grenade hop". Kind of lame for a character that's supposedly the ultimate killer cyborg.
Also, the only decent weapon for area coverage (grenade launcher), SUCKED as a combat weapon - it was attached as an over-under to the most inaccurate automatic rifle ever imagined. Plus, it did very little in the way of damage. Now, do an over-under with a flechette gun, and THEN you'd have a decent weapon.
(also would have been nice if grenades came in varieties; smokers, armor peircing, antipersonnel, etc.)
I also was a bit disappointed in Marathon Infinity, at the poor quality of the video. Other games were doing way better at that time. Marathon Infinity had almost no improvement over Marathon 2 in graphics. It was just some tweaks to the physics models and a new set of levels.
BTW -
Bungie does have a super-kick-ass new game in development called Halo, and from the movies and screen shots I've seen, it will totally blow everything else away.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
"IE technology & IIS etc are important to windows 2000 cause they provide objects and libraries that are used as
other parts of the OS."
A **RESPONSIBLE** OS vendor would ship the libraries and objects SEPARATELY from the application, allowing people to install the libraries and objects, and use whatever web browser and web server applications they want.
Applications != Objects and Libraries.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
I used beta 2.
And I wholeheartedly disagree with you.
the term "bloated" refers to a lot of things, but mainly, to the fact that the bar is raised with each release with regard to minimum hardware requirements. W2K's minimum hardware requirements are fairly astronomical. When you run it on low-end hardware, it is slow as hell. And in the Microsoft-run training class I took, we couldn't get half the machines to install DNS, and therefore couldn't get ActiveDirectory to run on those machines, and therefore couldn't install most of the nifty new cool spiffy features Win2K supposedly has.
It's a big bloated piece of POO, unless you can buy shiny new very expensive Intel hardware to run it on.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
I was at a startup, I've been with the company technically 8 years. Through various mergers and aquisitions, the first set of stock options paid off to the tune of about $3000. Basically toilet paper.
Then new options were granted. Not to be a sceptic, but the people who were running the company were connivers, and they were just trying to scam the board. Through some major structural changes, it became obvious that these bozos never had any intention of going public. Or maybe they knew we never had a chance. But they pretty much structured us for a sale.
Luckily, this story has a happy ending. I gambled, big time, by staying with the company through a huge layoff and restructuring. Most of the people I worked with had the option to BUY their options, (just what had vested at the time), but most didn't. A year later, we DID get bought. And by a nicely successful company. The stock has been on a rocket ride ever since.
About two years ago, before we were bought, I was thinking maybe we'd go public and I'd be able to like pay off my credit cards or something. This December, I calculated my options' value. I have made my first million. (this includes some unvested options). Not bad for someone who dropped out of art school. No degree. Now, I'm not saying I'm not worth my salt. Other old-timers, especially the schemers who set this whole thing up in the first place, made out like freakin bandits. Some guys are talking about buying lear jets, etc. You gotta love this industry. You just gotta.
On the other hand, I feel really, really bad about the guys who got laid off two years ago, and didn't get to keep their options.
What others have posted here - you gotta look at the risks and such - but most of all, you gotta look at the salary they ARE offering you. Is it enough to live on comfortably? If it squeezes you, try to negotiate for more options if you can. If your gamble pays off, you'll be very happy about it later!
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
These guys are still bitching about the SCSC.
.
Come on, you KNEW it was doomed when Bush took it to Texas. Can you say, "Super Conducting Super Pork"?
If only folks had listened to reason and built in onto the Fermi facility. .
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
".. he sells software... far from demonic. . ."
You haven't tried to uninstall IE lately, have you?
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Okay, define "a good sum of money" to the world's richest man?
What is "a good sum of money" to you and I, or even the elitest wealthy elite, is pocket-change to Gates.
Um - for that matter, I have a big interest in biotechnology too. whoop-de-doo. I still say Gates' interest is in owning everything and being a god. Maybe he thinks he can pay to have his immortatlity engineered. But I really think he just wants to own everyone's DNA.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
development of IE will cost bux. Without Win95 revenues, Baby Bill won't be able to finance it.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Um, so had evil genius Hitler no offed himself, you'd think it would be a travesty of justice to prosecute and punish him?
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Come on. you don't think Gates is REALLY interested in Biotech, do you? It's only because he found out you can patent human genes.
At least if this computer thing doesn't work out, then he can own your ass in other ways.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Gilligan and the Skipper!
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
naw, sounds like MS finally got sick of their team of bozo lawyers. ("You WHAT? You backdoored the DOJ's web server to deface the picture of Janet Reno? You MORONS? I don't care if you did it to prove that Apache was more secure and that Open Source was a viable competitor!")
They fired them for the Caldera suit:
(Microsoft settles Caldera suit out of court)
and now they apparently are doing the same for the DOJ case. I wonder why they didn't wait until a Friday after close of business or something?
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
No, Ballmer does not have that child molester look. He has that Mafia enforcer look.
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".
Heh. If I had that much money, I'd permanently rent out the top floor of Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, and throw a permanent party, with the finest hookers permanently on staff. Not much would get me out of bed in the morning there. . .
What would YOU do with the rest of your life with $60-plus Billion?
I wish I had a nickel for every time someone said "Information wants to be free".