IF you think DOOM is bad...
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. . . ah yes. If it hadn't been for these two, poor geek's KNOWING THE CONCEALED TRUTH about blacks (due to their having seen the truth on Neo Nazi web pages), then they wouldn't have gone rampaging through the school gunning for minorities (and athletes, who are all black anyway, right? comes from having to jump and run after antelope through the jungle, right?).
Damn! I KNEW white kids couldn't have done something like this without BLACK people being involved!
a third-degree burn from a 190f liquid is physically impossible.
Third-degree burns require the top layers of skin to be charred-off, and the lower layers exposed and damaged. It requires MUCH higher heat and open flame.
More likely second-degree burns are what resulted, second-degree burns being classified as no more severe than blistering of the skin.
If karma comes back to you - when is it coming back to Bill Gates, huh?
I got news for you. This is life man. Bad things happen to good people, and good things happen to bad people.
First they blamed it on Manson
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but please don't forget. PEOPLE did all that (in the name of religion). Not God.
I'm glad it won't happen...
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thank you. As a Christian, I agree that there are many, many, many Christians out there who DO need a gentle rebuke. Especially when they make statements like that.
I fear for the internet.
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just wait. It will come out that these kids were listening to illegal Marilyn Manson MP3s they downloaded off the internet, and THAT will be THE direct cause of the whole thing, and that will be the end of MP3s.
(when, in fact, the Recording Industry planted subliminal messages in THOSE MP3s to instruct those kids to do the whole thing, as a sinister plot to discredit the internet distribution of MP3s. Banning guns is a handy side-effect. Kids not spending money on guns will buy more CDs, no?)
"...Yeah, you may not be able to buy a new Lexus every year..."
I read a better anti-materialist jab here on/. last year. something to the effect that "aw gee, your next Mercedes may have to have FACTORY sound."
That cuts a little deeper into the trivia of the matter.
Much ado about the wrong thing
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"...Individuals who accept themselves and are happy can't be controlled as easily as those who feel weak and guilty. That's how governments and religions have ruled over the society for at least the last millenia...."
I wouldn't blame religion strictly either. As with the whole gun debate, religion is merely a tool here, in this argument.
Christianity has other interpretations, which don't necessarily violate the bible. One doesn't need to feel guilty because God made them imperfect, and one doesn't have to feel unworthy because God loves them and forgives them for their imperfections. Unfortunately, this view did not serve the Catholic church in their medieval methods for controlling western civilization for 2000 years. (Case in point: Bible says "thou shalt not kill", Pope says "lets go down to Jerusalem and kill all those moslems"). That's why the printing press freed the Word, and once that genie was let out of the bottle, we saw the splintering of the church, and a LOT of bible reinterpretation. Sure, a lot of it hasn't been very good, but some of it has, so not all religion is opium for the masses. Not all hamburgers are McDonalds.
Much ado about the wrong thing
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FINALLY! An intelligent statement on this topic!
Guns don't cause suicidal rampage. Anger and hopelessness causes it.
Society is not the cause
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. . . that was the "official" statement on this incident from the FRY.
Only they didn't say there was a correlation. They bluntly stated that it was Clinton's direct fault.
Society is not the cause
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. . . that was the "official" statement on this incident from the FRY.
Please, more flamebait.
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And in the late 19th century, the newspapers blamed it all on the "penny dreadfuls".
... no point in arguing with the limey. They have a long history of government oppression. Why, if I remember correctly, back in the ole days, wasn't it illegal for anyone not of noble birth (ie. a peasant, not knighted) to carry a sword or wear armor, or even own a horse?
And haven't people in the British Isles been brutally repressed by various monarchies for thousands of years (a cool movie called Braveheart comes to mind). Isn't Majors trying to sweet talk the Northern Irish militants to give up their weapons right now (so he can send in the troops and put them down for good)? I say that the Irish should keep their weapons, and keep fighting for their freedom.
A gun is just a tool, nothing more.
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"are you expecting the US people to have to rise up in an armed militia against the government any time soon?"
I've got news for you limey. They already have. Ever hear of Timothy McVeigh? These militant groups consider themselves "at war" with the US Government, and they believe that the US Government is illegal and unconstitutional, and enemies of their traditional way of life (in many ways they are right).
A gun is just a tool, nothing more.
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Realistic for England, which has been under strict rule of law during the entire history of the gun.
But in America, there was a sustained period of relative lawlessness, and it's ingrained in our culture. There are over 230 million guns in America. If you outlaw them, there will 230 million illegal guns in America, and their owners will not give a rat's ass that they are breaking the law. I certainly will not give up my gun when they make it illegal.
There are limits to what the law can accomplish. And if they decided to send the national guard to search every citizen's home to enforce this law, you'd have a LOT more deaths on your hands than a few incidents of random violence like this. Trust me. You don't know America. People drive around with bumper stickers on their cars that say "you can take my gun when you pry it out of my cold, dead, hand" and these people are serious.
"Those who give up essential liberty for temporary security deserve neither." -Benjamin Franklin
A gun is just a tool, nothing more.
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Realistic for England, which has been under strict rule of law during the entire history of the gun.
But in America, there was a sustained period of relative lawlessness, and it's ingrained in our culture. There are over 230 million guns in America. If you outlaw them, there will 230 million illegal guns in America, and their owners will not give a rat's ass that they are breaking the law. I certainly will not give up my gun when they make it illegal.
There are limits to what the law can accomplish. And if they decided to send the national guard to search every citizen's home to enforce this law, you'd have a LOT more deaths on your hands than a few incidents of random violence like this. Trust me. You don't know America. People drive around with bumper stickers on their cars that say "you can take my gun when you pry it out of my cold, dead, hand" and these people are serious.
A gun is just a tool, nothing more.
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Realistic for England, which has been under strict rule of law during the entire history of the gun.
But in America, there was a sustained period of relative lawlessness, and it's ingrained in our culture. There are over 230 million guns in America. If you outlaw them, there will 230 million illegal guns in America, and their owners will not give a rat's ass that they are breaking the law. I certainly will not give up my gun when they make it illegal.
There are limits to what the law can accomplish. And if they decided to send the national guard to search every citizen's home to enforce this law, you'd have a LOT more deaths on your hands than a few incidents of random violence like this. Trust me. You don't know America.
That DOES happens, but don't ask the liberal media
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...in Rwanda, the weapon of choice was the machete.
well, personally, if I was a pissed-off outsider teenager, and wanted to kill a bunch of elitist jocks, and if guns were illegal, I would simply wait for them to congregate in a crowd, and run them over with my car at high speed. (like at a football game, on the field, where everyone can see).
Then the press would blame Carmageddon, and the Liberals would want cars banned, and the Conservatives would call for prayer in schools, and the rest of America would still be standing around scratching their heads and wondering how a kid could become so angry.
. . . ah yes. If it hadn't been for these two, poor geek's KNOWING THE CONCEALED TRUTH about blacks (due to their having seen the truth on Neo Nazi web pages), then they wouldn't have gone rampaging through the school gunning for minorities (and athletes, who are all black anyway, right? comes from having to jump and run after antelope through the jungle, right?).
Damn! I KNEW white kids couldn't have done something like this without BLACK people being involved!
a third-degree burn from a 190f liquid is physically impossible.
Third-degree burns require the top layers of skin to be charred-off, and the lower layers exposed and damaged. It requires MUCH higher heat and open flame.
More likely second-degree burns are what resulted, second-degree burns being classified as no more severe than blistering of the skin.
Yeah, but a long trench coat IS handy for concealing weapons. . .
If karma comes back to you - when is it coming back to Bill Gates, huh?
I got news for you.
This is life man.
Bad things happen to good people,
and good things happen to bad people.
but please don't forget. PEOPLE did all that (in the name of religion). Not God.
thank you. As a Christian, I agree that there are many, many, many Christians out there who DO need a gentle rebuke. Especially when they make statements like that.
just wait. It will come out that these kids were listening to illegal Marilyn Manson MP3s they downloaded off the internet, and THAT will be THE direct cause of the whole thing, and that will be the end of MP3s.
(when, in fact, the Recording Industry planted subliminal messages in THOSE MP3s to instruct those kids to do the whole thing, as a sinister plot to discredit the internet distribution of MP3s. Banning guns is a handy side-effect. Kids not spending money on guns will buy more CDs, no?)
"... However it would have been illegal for anyone
under eighteen to possess it and doublely illegal to take it onto school property..."
... and tripply illegal to shoot classmates with.
yeah, but producing video games does not involve mentally damaging, degrading and exploiting young children (selling them does).
I guess that depends on how young your programmers are, but you get my point.
... add to that the fact that most Texans haven't learned to appreciate the crowded conditions of many of the major Eastern cities. . .
"...Yeah, you may not be able to buy a new Lexus every year..."
/. last year. something to the effect that "aw gee, your next Mercedes may have to have FACTORY sound."
I read a better anti-materialist jab here on
That cuts a little deeper into the trivia of the matter.
"...Individuals who ..."
accept themselves and are happy can't be controlled as easily as those who feel weak and guilty. That's
how governments and religions have ruled over the society for at least the last millenia.
I wouldn't blame religion strictly either. As with the whole gun debate, religion is merely a tool here, in this argument.
Christianity has other interpretations, which don't necessarily violate the bible. One doesn't need to feel guilty because God made them imperfect, and one doesn't have to feel unworthy because God loves them and forgives them for their imperfections.
Unfortunately, this view did not serve the Catholic church in their medieval methods for controlling western civilization for 2000 years.
(Case in point: Bible says "thou shalt not kill", Pope says "lets go down to Jerusalem and kill all those moslems"). That's why the printing press freed the Word, and once that genie was let out of the bottle, we saw the splintering of the church, and a LOT of bible reinterpretation. Sure, a lot of it hasn't been very good, but some of it has, so not all religion is opium for the masses. Not all hamburgers are McDonalds.
FINALLY!
An intelligent statement on this topic!
Guns don't cause suicidal rampage.
Anger and hopelessness causes it.
. . . that was the "official" statement on this incident from the FRY.
Only they didn't say there was a correlation. They bluntly stated that it was Clinton's direct fault.
. . . that was the "official" statement on this incident from the FRY.
And in the late 19th century, the newspapers blamed it all on the "penny dreadfuls".
Trust me. Nothing has changed.
Well planned. Took a lot of time and effort, and intelligence.
This is why I say: These kids were not insane. They were angry. Really fucking pissed. A bit hot under the collar.
Why can't America look at the reasons for the anger and address the cause - instead of madly searching for some other scapegoat.
... isn't that the city whose mayor was arrested for smoking crack?
... and then reelected almost unanimously after he had served out his jail sentance?
... no point in arguing with the limey. They have a long history of government oppression. Why, if I remember correctly, back in the ole days, wasn't it illegal for anyone not of noble birth (ie. a peasant, not knighted) to carry a sword or wear armor, or even own a horse?
And haven't people in the British Isles been brutally repressed by various monarchies for thousands of years (a cool movie called Braveheart comes to mind).
Isn't Majors trying to sweet talk the Northern Irish militants to give up their weapons right now (so he can send in the troops and put them down for good)?
I say that the Irish should keep their weapons, and keep fighting for their freedom.
"are you expecting the
US people to have to rise up in an armed militia against the government any time soon?"
I've got news for you limey. They already have. Ever hear of Timothy McVeigh? These militant groups consider themselves "at war" with the US Government, and they believe that the US Government is illegal and unconstitutional, and enemies of their traditional way of life (in many ways they are right).
Realistic for England, which has been under strict rule of law during the entire history of the gun.
But in America, there was a sustained period of relative lawlessness, and it's ingrained in our culture. There are over 230 million guns in America. If you outlaw them, there will 230 million illegal guns in America, and their owners will not give a rat's ass that they are breaking the law. I certainly will not give up my gun when they make it illegal.
There are limits to what the law can accomplish. And if they decided to send the national guard to search every citizen's home to enforce this law, you'd have a LOT more deaths on your hands than a few incidents of random violence like this. Trust me. You don't know America. People drive around with bumper stickers on their cars that say "you can take my gun when you pry it out of my cold, dead, hand" and these people are serious.
"Those who give up essential liberty for temporary security deserve neither."
-Benjamin Franklin
Realistic for England, which has been under strict rule of law during the entire history of the gun.
But in America, there was a sustained period of relative lawlessness, and it's ingrained in our culture. There are over 230 million guns in America. If you outlaw them, there will 230 million illegal guns in America, and their owners will not give a rat's ass that they are breaking the law. I certainly will not give up my gun when they make it illegal.
There are limits to what the law can accomplish. And if they decided to send the national guard to search every citizen's home to enforce this law, you'd have a LOT more deaths on your hands than a few incidents of random violence like this. Trust me. You don't know America. People drive around with bumper stickers on their cars that say "you can take my gun when you pry it out of my cold, dead, hand" and these people are serious.
Realistic for England, which has been under strict rule of law during the entire history of the gun.
But in America, there was a sustained period of relative lawlessness, and it's ingrained in our culture. There are over 230 million guns in America. If you outlaw them, there will 230 million illegal guns in America, and their owners will not give a rat's ass that they are breaking the law. I certainly will not give up my gun when they make it illegal.
There are limits to what the law can accomplish. And if they decided to send the national guard to search every citizen's home to enforce this law, you'd have a LOT more deaths on your hands than a few incidents of random violence like this. Trust me. You don't know America.
...in Rwanda, the weapon of choice was the machete.
well, personally, if I was a pissed-off outsider teenager, and wanted to kill a bunch of elitist jocks, and if guns were illegal, I would simply wait for them to congregate in a crowd, and run them over with my car at high speed. (like at a football game, on the field, where everyone can see).
Then the press would blame Carmageddon, and the Liberals would want cars banned, and the Conservatives would call for prayer in schools, and the rest of America would still be standing around scratching their heads and wondering how a kid could become so angry.