We mixed it with a bit of room temperature and pressure gaseous diamond. Unfortunately this only works so long as we keep it immersed in room temperature and pressure molten gold.
If we can just work out how to. . .
I find it interesting that one of the things this company is pushing is that it would be a solution to binding excess carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. I thought the solution to that was simple and obvious:
Take your carbon dioxide and some plain water. Crack the water into hydrogen and oxygen. Crack the carbon dioxide into carbon and oxygen. You're left with a lot of . ..oxygen. Hurray! Let it go in the air and breath deep.
Now you've got carbon and a hydrogen. Combine the two and you'll get a sort of brown-black goo which will be a bit of a disposal problem, since you'll eventually end up with billions of barrels of the stuff, but really, all you have to do is inject it under pressure into underground sand and shale deposits and it can sit there safe for millions of years.
Problem solved.
Of course you have to be careful. There's a certain risk that when the hydrogen and carbon combine you'll just end up with billions of barrels of vodka instead of brown-black goo and lord only knows how we'd manage to dispose of that.
Doesn't really matter. Everytime you buy any of their shit you participate in insureing that "they" have a lot more.
. ..TV channels (during commercial breaks)
Ahhhhhhhhh, Grasshopper. You have failed to follow the money and come to the logical end of the trail. You will not be ready until you can snatch the media outlet from my hand.
As others have addressed the longevity of flight issue perfectly adequately I will simply point out that I don't think the people involved in this project have ever intended it to be anything but.
will sombody PLEASE explain to me why every time somebody calls the US a democracy, somebody else says they're wrong becuase it's a republic?
Because, as is relevant to the specific issue at hand, the majority does not rule. In the majority of Federal issues The People do not even play a role. Thus laws that virtually everyone is against may be virtually impossible to overturn through the "democratic process," for the simple reason that we don't have one at the level of law.
Contrast this to ancient Athens or the Vermont town meeting where every issue was decided by actual vote by all of the eligable citizens present.
There is a huge difference between direct democracy and representative democracy. The founders were well aware of this (most of them having classical educations which emphsised Greek and Roman history and language) which is why they chose the representative form.
If you read a history of Athens you may come to understand their choice as well. Remember, Socrates was put to death by democratic vote.
Not really an electric as is the EV1. It makes a big difference in battery life. A battery might be rated at 10,000 cycles, but only 350 cycles for deep discharge.
Battery replacement for a RAV4 EV is only expensive because it's a "boutique" item. If there were tens of thousands of EVs on the road, the cost would come down.
How much does a battery pack for your laptop cost? They're just shrink wrapped AAs. Batteries are expensive. When I buy batteries for an electric car I buy off the shelf stuff from a bulk jobber. They are still expensive. About $4K for a set of conventional gel batteries (which I would expect to last about a year or two in a commuter vehicle) as made in the Godzillions for various applications.
As for the fuel, according to Wikipedia it was 1/2 to 1/3 the cost of the gas equivalent. ..
And the cost of the batteries is part of your fuel cost. Pretending it's not is cheating. It takes fuel to make them. It takes fuel to recycle them and eventually dispose of them.
For a RAV4 that's $.26 per mile if you get maximum life out of your batteries, but $.50/mi was more typical. Plus your electric costs. A conservatively driven Boxster will cost you about $.10/mi in gas at $3.00/gal (although you can do a lot worse if you want).
In a small car they take up most of the space so you are reduced to a two seater (I happen to like two seaters, but I do like enough room left over for a couple of guitars), or you take Toyota's approach and put them in an SUV, with the weight of an SUV to haul around and the air drag of an SUV to push against. You're also hauling 1000 lbs. of dead weight around all the time, even when the "tank" is nearly empty. Ten gallons of gas is 60 lbs. One gallon of gas is 6 lbs.
Please, please, please bear in mind that I am not an electric car detractor. I am an electric car lover. I simply don't let my love blind me to the fact that they simply aren't going to save the world. They have certain considerable advantages, but they have certain considerable disadvantages.
Probably because you would balk at the cost of the batteries, especially if the cost of recycling is factored in; and you still have to pay for the fuel.
On the whole a Boxster is a much better deal. A used Plymouth Sundance even better.
I'm not sure I would have wanted a world of all eletric cars when the time came to recycle the batteries...
Contrary to an above post electric cars do not suck. Batteries suck.
Perhaps if there had been a cool movie about electric cars BEFORE they were cancelled . ..
More disappointed owners would be aware of how badly batteries suck.
Those few of us who actually love electric cars have to hang our hopes on the fuel cell or the Mr. Fusion, whichever comes first, although hybrids are getting closer to what they should be.
This is not being marketed to (most) TV owners. What percentage of TV owners own HDTV.
That percentage most likely to buy really expensive, "cutting edge" hardware with no content that is likely to be obsoleted by a format war within a year or two?
I'm pretty sure that Microsoft feels that they, as the sole OS provider for the majority of the world, are in the driver's seat when it comes to hardware specs . ..
. ..since they have been since the early 90s.
If you wish to play the blame game your more appropriate target would be Apple for not adopting an open architecture, creating OEM level competition in hardware.
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And as a side effect this will help with our college student disposal problem.
KFG
I don't see the connection between "virus" and "disposable income." I was under the impresssion that they always worked on a volunteer basis.
KFG
Congratulations. You have just won the KFG Prize for this article.
Your baby sister can collect it from me at the Hotel Emporio, Tiujuana.
KFG
"And then a miracle happens" . . .
.oxygen. Hurray! Let it go in the air and breath deep.
We mixed it with a bit of room temperature and pressure gaseous diamond. Unfortunately this only works so long as we keep it immersed in room temperature and pressure molten gold.
If we can just work out how to. . .
I find it interesting that one of the things this company is pushing is that it would be a solution to binding excess carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. I thought the solution to that was simple and obvious:
Take your carbon dioxide and some plain water. Crack the water into hydrogen and oxygen. Crack the carbon dioxide into carbon and oxygen. You're left with a lot of . .
Now you've got carbon and a hydrogen. Combine the two and you'll get a sort of brown-black goo which will be a bit of a disposal problem, since you'll eventually end up with billions of barrels of the stuff, but really, all you have to do is inject it under pressure into underground sand and shale deposits and it can sit there safe for millions of years.
Problem solved.
Of course you have to be careful. There's a certain risk that when the hydrogen and carbon combine you'll just end up with billions of barrels of vodka instead of brown-black goo and lord only knows how we'd manage to dispose of that.
KFG
. . . if hey manage to find a way of making it stable at room teperature and pressure. . .
Easy enough. Simply apply the Congressional Model of engineering; redefine room temperature and pressure.
KFG
. . .differentiate - by not selling DRM-tainted products.
That's why "they" are working on getting it required by law.
KFG
How much money would be needed for that?
.TV channels (during commercial breaks)
Doesn't really matter. Everytime you buy any of their shit you participate in insureing that "they" have a lot more.
. .
Ahhhhhhhhh, Grasshopper. You have failed to follow the money and come to the logical end of the trail. You will not be ready until you can snatch the media outlet from my hand.
KFG
Forget? It's what provided the stimulus for the EFF's efforts along this line.
It's an information war and this is the firing of a return volley.
KFG
Every portable mp3 player has a headphone jack by nature.
.
.including music and video. Fill the world with "hole."
. . . consumer electronics . .
The ultimate tool in the war, stop being a consumer. Learn to make your own . .
KFG
http://www.things.org/~jym/greenpeace/myth-of-batt ery-recycling.html
KFG
Also handy in case they run into a Nazgul
KFG
it will never be more than a novelty.
As others have addressed the longevity of flight issue perfectly adequately I will simply point out that I don't think the people involved in this project have ever intended it to be anything but.
Well, that and a real kick just to pull off.
KFG
If we lived in a fantasy world where the atmosphere was denser. . .
LA LA Land.
KFG
It just has to be slow (100 mph I believe). . .
.and weigh less than 200 lb (100 kg).
That would kilometers/hour. 55 knots. 63 mph.
. .
155 lbs. for unpowered craft; 255 lbs. empty (maximum fuel load of 5 gal.) for powered craft.
KFG
will sombody PLEASE explain to me why every time somebody calls the US a democracy, somebody else says they're wrong becuase it's a republic?
Because, as is relevant to the specific issue at hand, the majority does not rule. In the majority of Federal issues The People do not even play a role. Thus laws that virtually everyone is against may be virtually impossible to overturn through the "democratic process," for the simple reason that we don't have one at the level of law.
Contrast this to ancient Athens or the Vermont town meeting where every issue was decided by actual vote by all of the eligable citizens present.
There is a huge difference between direct democracy and representative democracy. The founders were well aware of this (most of them having classical educations which emphsised Greek and Roman history and language) which is why they chose the representative form.
If you read a history of Athens you may come to understand their choice as well. Remember, Socrates was put to death by democratic vote.
KFG
Bear in mind that traditionally the competitors in the Olympics were all, every one of them, completely bareass.
KFG
The Toyota Prius. . .
.
Not really an electric as is the EV1. It makes a big difference in battery life. A battery might be rated at 10,000 cycles, but only 350 cycles for deep discharge.
Battery replacement for a RAV4 EV is only expensive because it's a "boutique" item. If there were tens of thousands of EVs on the road, the cost would come down.
How much does a battery pack for your laptop cost? They're just shrink wrapped AAs. Batteries are expensive. When I buy batteries for an electric car I buy off the shelf stuff from a bulk jobber. They are still expensive. About $4K for a set of conventional gel batteries (which I would expect to last about a year or two in a commuter vehicle) as made in the Godzillions for various applications.
As for the fuel, according to Wikipedia it was 1/2 to 1/3 the cost of the gas equivalent. .
And the cost of the batteries is part of your fuel cost. Pretending it's not is cheating. It takes fuel to make them. It takes fuel to recycle them and eventually dispose of them.
For a RAV4 that's $.26 per mile if you get maximum life out of your batteries, but $.50/mi was more typical. Plus your electric costs. A conservatively driven Boxster will cost you about $.10/mi in gas at $3.00/gal (although you can do a lot worse if you want).
In a small car they take up most of the space so you are reduced to a two seater (I happen to like two seaters, but I do like enough room left over for a couple of guitars), or you take Toyota's approach and put them in an SUV, with the weight of an SUV to haul around and the air drag of an SUV to push against. You're also hauling 1000 lbs. of dead weight around all the time, even when the "tank" is nearly empty. Ten gallons of gas is 60 lbs. One gallon of gas is 6 lbs.
Please, please, please bear in mind that I am not an electric car detractor. I am an electric car lover. I simply don't let my love blind me to the fact that they simply aren't going to save the world. They have certain considerable advantages, but they have certain considerable disadvantages.
Chief among these is batteries.
KFG
I'd go for an EV1 for my commute, why not?
Probably because you would balk at the cost of the batteries, especially if the cost of recycling is factored in; and you still have to pay for the fuel.
On the whole a Boxster is a much better deal. A used Plymouth Sundance even better.
KFG
I'm not sure I would have wanted a world of all eletric cars when the time came to recycle the batteries...
.
Contrary to an above post electric cars do not suck. Batteries suck.
Perhaps if there had been a cool movie about electric cars BEFORE they were cancelled . .
More disappointed owners would be aware of how badly batteries suck.
Those few of us who actually love electric cars have to hang our hopes on the fuel cell or the Mr. Fusion, whichever comes first, although hybrids are getting closer to what they should be.
KFG
Keep up the good work, why not try prohibition again as well?
We did. We changed its focus, thinking that would make a difference somehow.
Columbia thanks us.
KFG
AOL added the word "breast" to their filters
There are no bad words. Only fucking idiots.
KFG
This is not being marketed to (most) TV owners. What percentage of TV owners own HDTV.
That percentage most likely to buy really expensive, "cutting edge" hardware with no content that is likely to be obsoleted by a format war within a year or two?
KFG
I'm pretty sure that Microsoft feels that they, as the sole OS provider for the majority of the world, are in the driver's seat when it comes to hardware specs . . .
.since they have been since the early 90s.
. .
If you wish to play the blame game your more appropriate target would be Apple for not adopting an open architecture, creating OEM level competition in hardware.
KFG
Ah, but what about "olympics+porn" (go ahead, try it. I won't tell), or. . . "olympics+pepsi+burger king"?
There may be method in the IOCs madness.
KFG
Patient: Doctor, doctor! My penis has turned orange.
Doctor: You're an out of work programmer, aren't you?
KFG