The definition I posted was suffcient to rebut the claim that one must be matriculated at an accredited university to be a scholar.
Some scholars are college students, some are not (one would hope, for instance, that college instructors were scholars).
Any other claims or definitions are irrelevant to the point addressed.
Furthermore, there is nothing in your profered definition that mentions accredited universities.
However, the fact that this is a contest restricted to college students is selfevident, hence the parent post, which would be meaningless otherwise, but I did not address his point.
We have these "tools" as our bargaining chips. "I'll see your nuclear program and raise you certain death if you fail to meet our demands of disarmament. Worse, we'll capture you and parade you before the world, and then hold a trial where you are convicted and executed. You can drop out of this game now, or you can try to raise the bet, or you can call."
Debunkings courtesy of Martin Gardner, and occasionally James Randi.
I have been familiar with the work of these two gentleman for decades.
Hence my question.
. ..the phenomenon of sucking US taxpayers money.
Lot of that going around these days, but I at least like to feel like I'm getting a nifty airplane out of the deal, or something. It might be worth it just to watch the Blue Angels perform.
I can see carnival acts for free.
. ..eventually this wasted expenditure will have almost no value at all!
Or maybe if it was legal, all the drug cartels would gain even more widespread power and cause more drug related crimes.
Interdiction is a modern phenomenon. Before interdiction there were no drug cartels and no drug related crimes as we know them. The one is the cause of the other. Where do the drug cartels stand if all you have to do to get a bit of coke is to buy a Coke?
You don't see a lot of 'rum runners' around these days, do you? Just honest convienient store, liquor store and bar owners.
Aside from the drunk driving/angry drunk abuser issue the most serious crime now directly associated with alcohol is a bit of obnoxious panhandling.
Where there is no black market there is no black market crime.
No, but I have watched more than one crack adult waste away and die. One of them was a beautiful little girl from my neighborhood, and a good family, that I watched grow up.
I've watched many more lives destroyed by another plant derived drug far more common than crack and quite a few die from it. Terminal cirrhosis of the liver isn't pretty. The drug can be derived from any plant and can be purchased over the counter at any convienient store.
It isn't the plant's fault, and you simply can't destroy them all anyway, at least not without destroying ourselves as well.
This isn't just some plant god gave us to smoke.
Actually, if we just smoked the plant there would be little problem.
. . . and ruins whole country's.
No, it is the fruitless attempts at interdiction that ruin whole countries. Colombia used to be one of the prime tourist spots of the world, and they've been 'doing coke' for millenia.
By the way, I've found an interesting, herbicide free, way to deal with dandelions in my lawn (another plant that some people take offense at for some reason. I was speaking of plants, remember?)
. ..you need a free (as in beer) desktop version that the masses can admin.
Last time I installed Mandrake I had to click on "Yeah, whatever" about three times. That was it. Up and running on the network, and it's free as in beer.
Can't recall ever having to drop to command line to do anything, although I frequently find it more convenient to do so, just as I often do in Windows.
And for whatever it's worth, I put a certain amount of food in my stomach because the garden variety user can't install or admin Windows either. Based on my customers I'd have to say that even the vaunted Mac isn't quite as intuitive and 'user friendly' as Apple would like you to believe.
Some of the rest of the food comes from the fact that they also can't fix their own cars, bicycles or even cobble up a flyer in Word.
I really don't see anything wrong with certain things requiring a certain amount of expertise and hiring experts to do them. I don't do my own plumbing. My plumber doesn't install operating systems. Takes all kinds to make a world.
I shouldn't need to know the guts of XWindows and mouse drivers just to get it running.
I'd have to say that depends on what it is you're trying to do, although I personally havn't seen a major distro that requires this in many years, but I've never tried Fedora.
. ..the Linux community is asleep at the wheel trying to find an sales model that works
The two distros that you have recently tried have solved this problem very neatly by devoting zero attention to the issue and simply giving the stuff away.
Linux businesses are another issue, but they are primarily aligned with the business community, not the Linux community (just ask their bankers and stockholders).
Not entirely coincidentally, they are also not distros targeted at the typical, garden variety end user. Linux may or may not have its rough spots as a desktop enviroment, depending on just what it is you expect it to do, but that determination really ought to be made on the basis of using an 'end user' desktop targeted distro, such as Mandrake or Linspiredows.
Since you are an experienced Slack admin setting up a CVS repository (not something a garden variety desktop user is prone to do), why not just use Slack (or Red Hat) like a pro instead of Debian like a newb?
Clearly mother nature got it right for efficient computation.
At the cost of deterministic precision and data integrity.
When designing a computational device the ideal depends a good deal on just what it is you are trying to compute and there are always engineering tradeoffs.
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. . .because there is nothing to impel it to continue at that elevation.
Other than the fact that it is also traveling at 25,000 mph away from the earth.
KFG
You're technically right that a scholar in general doesn't have to be, but so what? :-)
.if you're not at an accredited university, you don't count as a scholar!
. .
So it was the claim. You have now retracted the claim and I can go do something interesting.
KFG
The definition I posted was suffcient to rebut the claim that one must be matriculated at an accredited university to be a scholar.
Some scholars are college students, some are not (one would hope, for instance, that college instructors were scholars).
Any other claims or definitions are irrelevant to the point addressed.
Furthermore, there is nothing in your profered definition that mentions accredited universities.
However, the fact that this is a contest restricted to college students is selfevident, hence the parent post, which would be meaningless otherwise, but I did not address his point.
KFG
. . .if you're not at an accredited university, you don't count as a scholar!
scholar n.
1.
a. A learned person.
KFG
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
Catus Petasatus was a life altering mind blower.
KFG
. . .ever heard of Google?
In omnibus requiem quaesivi, et nusquam inveni nisi in angulo cum Googlus.
KFG
Carthago must be delenda.
KFG
We have these "tools" as our bargaining chips. "I'll see your nuclear program and raise you certain death if you fail to meet our demands of disarmament. Worse, we'll capture you and parade you before the world, and then hold a trial where you are convicted and executed. You can drop out of this game now, or you can try to raise the bet, or you can call."
Carthago delenda est.
KFG
Debunkings courtesy of Martin Gardner, and occasionally James Randi.
.the phenomenon of sucking US taxpayers money.
.eventually this wasted expenditure will have almost no value at all!
I have been familiar with the work of these two gentleman for decades.
Hence my question.
. .
Lot of that going around these days, but I at least like to feel like I'm getting a nifty airplane out of the deal, or something. It might be worth it just to watch the Blue Angels perform.
I can see carnival acts for free.
. .
What you expect it to increase in value?
KFG
"This phenomenon. . ."
What phenomenon?
KFG
Or maybe if it was legal, all the drug cartels would gain even more widespread power and cause more drug related crimes.
Interdiction is a modern phenomenon. Before interdiction there were no drug cartels and no drug related crimes as we know them. The one is the cause of the other. Where do the drug cartels stand if all you have to do to get a bit of coke is to buy a Coke?
You don't see a lot of 'rum runners' around these days, do you? Just honest convienient store, liquor store and bar owners.
Aside from the drunk driving/angry drunk abuser issue the most serious crime now directly associated with alcohol is a bit of obnoxious panhandling.
Where there is no black market there is no black market crime.
KFG
Have you ever seen a crack baby?
No, but I have watched more than one crack adult waste away and die. One of them was a beautiful little girl from my neighborhood, and a good family, that I watched grow up.
I've watched many more lives destroyed by another plant derived drug far more common than crack and quite a few die from it. Terminal cirrhosis of the liver isn't pretty. The drug can be derived from any plant and can be purchased over the counter at any convienient store.
It isn't the plant's fault, and you simply can't destroy them all anyway, at least not without destroying ourselves as well.
This isn't just some plant god gave us to smoke.
Actually, if we just smoked the plant there would be little problem.
. . . and ruins whole country's.
No, it is the fruitless attempts at interdiction that ruin whole countries. Colombia used to be one of the prime tourist spots of the world, and they've been 'doing coke' for millenia.
By the way, I've found an interesting, herbicide free, way to deal with dandelions in my lawn (another plant that some people take offense at for some reason. I was speaking of plants, remember?)
I eat them.
KFG
the war on some plants that some people take offense at for some reason remains as daft and unwinable as it ever was.
KFG
. . .if you believe in the concept of personal accountability. . .
Well of course I do. They talked about it on Oprah once.
KFG
In the past they got jobs as torturers and executioners.
Whereas now we sentence them to a term in Parliament.
KFG
Well, call me offtopic, but nothing in my post had anything to do with the NHS bid.
KFG
. . .you need a free (as in beer) desktop version that the masses can admin.
Last time I installed Mandrake I had to click on "Yeah, whatever" about three times. That was it. Up and running on the network, and it's free as in beer.
Can't recall ever having to drop to command line to do anything, although I frequently find it more convenient to do so, just as I often do in Windows.
And for whatever it's worth, I put a certain amount of food in my stomach because the garden variety user can't install or admin Windows either. Based on my customers I'd have to say that even the vaunted Mac isn't quite as intuitive and 'user friendly' as Apple would like you to believe.
Some of the rest of the food comes from the fact that they also can't fix their own cars, bicycles or even cobble up a flyer in Word.
I really don't see anything wrong with certain things requiring a certain amount of expertise and hiring experts to do them. I don't do my own plumbing. My plumber doesn't install operating systems. Takes all kinds to make a world.
I shouldn't need to know the guts of XWindows and mouse drivers just to get it running.
I'd have to say that depends on what it is you're trying to do, although I personally havn't seen a major distro that requires this in many years, but I've never tried Fedora.
KFG
. . .the Linux community is asleep at the wheel trying to find an sales model that works
The two distros that you have recently tried have solved this problem very neatly by devoting zero attention to the issue and simply giving the stuff away.
Linux businesses are another issue, but they are primarily aligned with the business community, not the Linux community (just ask their bankers and stockholders).
Not entirely coincidentally, they are also not distros targeted at the typical, garden variety end user. Linux may or may not have its rough spots as a desktop enviroment, depending on just what it is you expect it to do, but that determination really ought to be made on the basis of using an 'end user' desktop targeted distro, such as Mandrake or Linspiredows.
Since you are an experienced Slack admin setting up a CVS repository (not something a garden variety desktop user is prone to do), why not just use Slack (or Red Hat) like a pro instead of Debian like a newb?
I don't get it.
KFG
Who do what?
Do be do be do.
Oddly enough I've been listening to Dino, not Frank.
When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, well, I always figured you were pretty much hosed at that point.
KFG
Oh, confused, would we?
Yes, we wouldn't. I blame CNN exit polls.
KFG
No, I'm saying I want Liv Tyler as President so there's at least some reason to watch the State of the Union Address.
KFG
There are very, very many 'intelligent' people with little to no wisdom.
However, there are very, very few stupid people who do.
KFG
Clearly mother nature got it right for efficient computation.
At the cost of deterministic precision and data integrity.
When designing a computational device the ideal depends a good deal on just what it is you are trying to compute and there are always engineering tradeoffs.
KFG
. . .where we just LOOK like we know what the hell we are talking about.
Oh I don't know. A good deal of the time we don't even bother to take the effort to look like it.
KFG
They may also 'agree' to uninstall them.
KFG