Why the rubes^H^H^H^H^H general populace themselves use it is beyond me.
KFG
Re:Too Much Serious Violence
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for every alternate universe in which the beholder died a violent death, there are anywhere from ten to ten thousand alternate ones where the players died a violent death.
And some of those players are. . . wait for it, wait for it . . .
You may have missed the pdf file that accompanied the post.
The pdf file is how I know what the accusation is.
Accusations are not evidence. They are a claim.
Claims mean nothing until they are supported and are never stronger than that support.
The support for the warrant being issued was that Steve can be shown to have been in the area and that "someone (through a translator when necessary) said."
A claim of a claim.
KFG
Re:Too Much Serious Violence
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Eye of the Beholder wasn't that violent was it?
That depends an awful lot on whether you're the beholder or not, doesn't it?
. ..they had only just gathered sufficient evidence to arrest him, and decided to bring him in as quickly as possible. ..
What for? Steve is a public figure in a licensed profession. They can follow his movements quite easily and arrest him at any time, say, as he's leaving the conference, or in his hotel room early in the morning.
In fact, with a fellow like Steve all they really have to do (and it's quite common to do it) is call up his lawyer and make an appointment to have him come in voluntarily for arraignment. No biggy.
This was a Dog and Pony show.
Please note that I am not making any statement about the validity of the charge. I am only commenting on the nature of the arrest procedure.
Flashy busts are risky. Making the bust just before the speech gives you almost as much flash, but with much lower risk.
Compare to busting the guy wearing his bathrobe as he's bending over to get the morning paper. If all you want is to get the guy into custody as quickly, neatly and safely as possible that's the way you do it.
Look at the Sklyarov bust. He was arrested on his way out of the hotel on his way to the airport to leave the conference. Smaller message, but much safer.
And the message still got out.
This was a message that they're willing to make things messy for people; that they're being "serious."
KFG
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This game is rated E, because I'm not shooting people, I'm weeding my lawn.
. ..you have to admit that witness tampering is at least a legitimate crime, and not as stupid as the straw man charges that Slashdotters were inventing and then disproving a few days ago.
Hey, you've got to do something to avoid work.
. ..it looks like they're not as dumb as many people here wanted to believe.
"I'm not the man your mother warned you about. She doesn't have that much imagination."
Just because mom is right now and again doesn't imply she actually has a clue.
I didn't comment in the first thread because I didn't have enough information, but one thing was clear; the bust was designed to make as much of a public stir as possible. This is a common tactic when the intent of the bust is to apply pressure on someone; and those he associates with.
Seriously canyou be charged with witness tampering, by not even issuing a threat, to either the witness or his family?
You can be charged with anything, at any time. Think about that. Think about it really, really hard. The Framers did. Now think about the fact that these days you don't even really need to be charged, only "suspected" to be whisked away in the night.
I think, perhaps, the real question at issue in this case is can you be converted into a government witness by being charged with a crime?
Steal a Mabuchi 360/540 from a busted R/C car. Wrap a string around the shaft. Pull.
OK, so you'll want to add some pulleys to get up to an optimum rev range, but that's the basic idea.
Hook it up to a bicycle crank and the average, untrained person can put out 40 watts for hours at a time, equivilent to only 8 mph road speed, not much exercise actually if you're in any sort of shape at all (i.e. you'll actually loose fitness if you restrict yourself to that level).
An experienced cyclist can average about twice that speed for at least a few hours, a couple hundred watts (the watts aren't merely doubled because wind resistence goes up with the square of speed, which is why an amatuer racer can draft a pro world champion all day, possibly leading to the delusion that he's nearly as strong as the champ).
When you watch someone like Erik Zabel sprint you're seeing an output, for a matter of seconds, of about 1200 watts.
. ..we run up credit card debt at 20-30% interest. ..
. ..on stuff that's obsolescent and 90% depreciated in a year or three, that is, assuming we didn't just outright piss it away on nothing at all (I'm going to Disneyland).
Slashdot Mirror
Where did this use of 'consumers' come from?
http://www.hbs.edu/
Why the rubes^H^H^H^H^H general populace themselves use it is beyond me.
KFG
for every alternate universe in which the beholder died a violent death, there are anywhere from ten to ten thousand alternate ones where the players died a violent death.
And some of those players are. . . wait for it, wait for it . . .
Children!
KFG
I think competition alone at this point would gaurentee net neurality.
How many backbones are there?
KFG
We don't seem to be disagreeing about anything.
KFG
wake me up when these completely counterintuitive books/articles stop appearing
Ahhhhhhh, you seem a perfect candidate for our Mission to Alpha Centauri Project.
Allow me to show you the technical details of our MTSOTBD (Monkeys Throwing Shit Out The Back Drive).
KFG
I don't think Dave liked HAL very much.
KFG
You may have missed the pdf file that accompanied the post.
The pdf file is how I know what the accusation is.
Accusations are not evidence. They are a claim.
Claims mean nothing until they are supported and are never stronger than that support.
The support for the warrant being issued was that Steve can be shown to have been in the area and that "someone (through a translator when necessary) said."
A claim of a claim.
KFG
Eye of the Beholder wasn't that violent was it?
That depends an awful lot on whether you're the beholder or not, doesn't it?
KFG
KFG is the only person who remotely looks like anyone with half a brain.
If I could only find my Missing Piece.
KFG
. . .they had only just gathered sufficient evidence to arrest him, and decided to bring him in as quickly as possible. . .
What for? Steve is a public figure in a licensed profession. They can follow his movements quite easily and arrest him at any time, say, as he's leaving the conference, or in his hotel room early in the morning.
In fact, with a fellow like Steve all they really have to do (and it's quite common to do it) is call up his lawyer and make an appointment to have him come in voluntarily for arraignment. No biggy.
This was a Dog and Pony show.
Please note that I am not making any statement about the validity of the charge. I am only commenting on the nature of the arrest procedure.
KFG
There is a risk factor calculation that goes on.
Flashy busts are risky. Making the bust just before the speech gives you almost as much flash, but with much lower risk.
Compare to busting the guy wearing his bathrobe as he's bending over to get the morning paper. If all you want is to get the guy into custody as quickly, neatly and safely as possible that's the way you do it.
Look at the Sklyarov bust. He was arrested on his way out of the hotel on his way to the airport to leave the conference. Smaller message, but much safer.
And the message still got out.
This was a message that they're willing to make things messy for people; that they're being "serious."
KFG
This game is rated E, because I'm not shooting people, I'm weeding my lawn.
Violence is in The Eye of the Beholder.
KFG
. . .you have to admit that witness tampering is at least a legitimate crime, and not as stupid as the straw man charges that Slashdotters were inventing and then disproving a few days ago.
.it looks like they're not as dumb as many people here wanted to believe.
Hey, you've got to do something to avoid work.
. .
"I'm not the man your mother warned you about. She doesn't have that much imagination."
Just because mom is right now and again doesn't imply she actually has a clue.
I didn't comment in the first thread because I didn't have enough information, but one thing was clear; the bust was designed to make as much of a public stir as possible. This is a common tactic when the intent of the bust is to apply pressure on someone; and those he associates with.
KFG
DAs are notoriously unreliable as witnesses for the defence.
KFG
Yep, me too. You'll even find the "its vs. it's" and "there" vs. "their" vs. "they're" SNAFU amoung my writings.
This just in; I fall far short of perfection. Post at 11.
KFG
. . .the other side had a valid point you didn't know about.
Among the evidence accumulated against him so far; a bumper sticker on Steve's car that reads:
What would Jim Rockford do?
KFG
Seriously canyou be charged with witness tampering, by not even issuing a threat, to either the witness or his family?
You can be charged with anything, at any time. Think about that. Think about it really, really hard. The Framers did. Now think about the fact that these days you don't even really need to be charged, only "suspected" to be whisked away in the night.
I think, perhaps, the real question at issue in this case is can you be converted into a government witness by being charged with a crime?
KFG
Now that the details are out . . .
The details are not yet out. Only the accusation is out.
KFG
So the first thing you would do when creating a new conciousness is a way to kill it?
Perhaps, with a bit of time and research, we can find a way that subsequent pushes of the "OFF" button functions as an "ON" button.
KFG
Steal a Mabuchi 360/540 from a busted R/C car. Wrap a string around the shaft. Pull.
OK, so you'll want to add some pulleys to get up to an optimum rev range, but that's the basic idea.
Hook it up to a bicycle crank and the average, untrained person can put out 40 watts for hours at a time, equivilent to only 8 mph road speed, not much exercise actually if you're in any sort of shape at all (i.e. you'll actually loose fitness if you restrict yourself to that level).
An experienced cyclist can average about twice that speed for at least a few hours, a couple hundred watts (the watts aren't merely doubled because wind resistence goes up with the square of speed, which is why an amatuer racer can draft a pro world champion all day, possibly leading to the delusion that he's nearly as strong as the champ).
When you watch someone like Erik Zabel sprint you're seeing an output, for a matter of seconds, of about 1200 watts.
KFG
Geeks are expected to inherently know the definition of all technology-related acronyms.
POS.
KFG
$1000.00 clothing just like supermodels
You're going to look awfully silly walking around wearing nothing but one shoe.
KFG
Then I probably have you to thank for registering this nick on dozens and dozens of boards.
I haven't used it for about 15 years, and never on the Internet. Maybe I just started a trend.
KFG
The Laws of Robotics . . .and a great big "OFF" button would be a start.
Although I now post under my actual initials, in my day I've had two screen aliases. Yours is one of them. It feels kinda weird to reply to it.
KFG
. . .we run up credit card debt at 20-30% interest. . .
.on stuff that's obsolescent and 90% depreciated in a year or three, that is, assuming we didn't just outright piss it away on nothing at all (I'm going to Disneyland).
. .
KFG