Mr. Shatner, after your long expierences with movies and media, did you end up using Apple computers or IBM based Windows machines? I ask since most creative film based folks usually end up with Apples.
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Well, I wasn't sure, coward, and therefore I asked, not told.
Besides, if you want to be a coward and call someone a weanie, I think you already know how far I'll remember that comment.
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No, I have never wondered any of that nonsense. I'll just use OS X and not have to worry about it.
Blah blah blah. We can go on about this for hours. Here's my lowdown on it.
An example where PowerPCs are a shitload faster, not just a little, the kind of "boo hoo to J00!" real embarassing kind of defeat for the intel chips. http://n0cgi.distributed.net/speed/index.h tml
Here they are generally even, even at games: http://www.barefeats.com/pentium4.html
No, only saying I have done the research, and he can only throw claims that I am gay for doing it. I only felt it fitting to put someone who scoffs at research and says "you gayfer!" with the obvious.
Also, I haven't heard such stupidity since 8th grade. Where the heck are the/. moderators?!
Oh yeah, like 115 isn't fast enough. Actually, I don't think 140 is enough. Where are the thousands of FPS? Your Athlon is WEAK! It's all about having the highest FPS in Q3, and 140 is just not fast enough for my eyes. I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE YOU KNOW.
Actually, that would be the best new Mac for 3000$, and the OSX upgrade is free. If you are talking about BUYING OSX, it's 129$, not 189$. And you seem to know quite a lot about getting anally raped. It's probably what you feel the Mac is doing the the PC market.
Ahh well, such is life. I hope that one day you grow out of puberty and be able to accept that some people know more than you do.
With the combonation of OSX and Dual 1ghz processors, Apple now is staged to show the world what it is made of. For all you nay-sayers that think Macs are only for Photoshop filters, I got news for you.
First of all, Macs cost less. SHUT UP! They do. If you compare an iMac to an equally equiped Dell, the iMac is 400$ less than the CD-RW version of the Dell and 400$ less than the DVD-R version. Dell 8200 vs. iMac, I tried the slower versions of the PCs on their website as well, but first off the speed comparison isn't fair to the PC, but the iMac still beat it in value until you go to the 1.1ghz Celeron version, which doesn't have graphics acceloration or a hard drive larger than 40 gigs. I haven't started with the new PowerMacs, but eventually I will have a website proving that a Mac costs less than any of the competition. Feel free to verify the numbers: iMac CD-RW 1299, dell, 1663
iMac DVD-R 1699, dell 2032
Now, past that, Mac is currently getting all the advantages of the BSD and open source software community since the Developers Tools, which look strikingly like Visual C++, come FREE when you buy OSX. They nativly compile OS 9, OS X, and BSD/Linux applictions, I currently develop a Mud server in Project Builder, which runs on BSD and Linux.
As far as graphics and video are concerened, it's OBVOIUS to anyone who KNOWS anything about processors that a 7 step G4 with the FPU unit used is going to be over twice as fast as a 20 step P4 using an FPU unit. Games, being an unfair arena to a superior processor which runs cooler at a lower voltage and clock speed, the Mac still matches the PC in most arenas. http://www.barefeats.com So speed isn't an issue.
Resale value is also better on a Mac. And if you haven't noticed, most new Mac software runs on hardware 3 years old! The staying power of a PowerMac is obvious. There's no need to upgrade at all till processor speeds almost tripple. (I upgraded from a G3 233 to a G4 733, with no problems)
SO, a special note to all you PC idiots. If you want to spend more money on slower computers, with hot running parts, bad operating systems, Microsofts invasion of privacy, and oh, let's not forget all those WONDERFUL games on PCs, that's fine. The best day of my life was when I left the 4000$ game system market and got a Mac. I much prefer GTA3 and FFX on PS2. Not to mention with OSX I have one click webserving, all the advantages of BSD, including the fastest SMP of any OS, and a huge open source community that is only growing with each Unix nut converted. What I don't get are you Unix/BSD/Linux junkies who don't see the joy in a Mac. It's BSD with the arguably the greatest User Interface made! There is an easy way to boot to console only ( click Other as login, ">console" as username, no password ), and everything made in Project Builder is easily portable to any other flavor of Unix or Linux, even MS-DOS for the sheep.
So PC people, get a clue, get a life, and get a Mac. Maybe then you can appreciate style, user interface, and speed, and if not, I'm sure you guys will never run out of reasons why you don't have a Mac. You have plenty of time to think about it while you wait for your PC to finish crashing and reboot.
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Mr. Shatner, after your long expierences with movies and media, did you end up using Apple computers or IBM based Windows machines? I ask since most creative film based folks usually end up with Apples.
Doku
Well, I wasn't sure, coward, and therefore I asked, not told.
Besides, if you want to be a coward and call someone a weanie, I think you already know how far I'll remember that comment.
Doku
No, I have never wondered any of that nonsense. I'll just use OS X and not have to worry about it.
Doku
1st post?
Blah blah blah. We can go on about this for hours. Here's my lowdown on it.
h tml
An example where PowerPCs are a shitload faster, not just a little, the kind of "boo hoo to J00!" real embarassing kind of defeat for the intel chips.
http://n0cgi.distributed.net/speed/index.
Here they are generally even, even at games:
http://www.barefeats.com/pentium4.html
Ok, so what the fuck do you want from me?
Score! I'll have to go get a SB Live Mac soon then, I wanted the EAX anyway. Wait... I don't play games. Damn it!
Dokujaryu
No, only saying I have done the research, and he can only throw claims that I am gay for doing it. I only felt it fitting to put someone who scoffs at research and says "you gayfer!" with the obvious.
/. moderators?!
Also, I haven't heard such stupidity since 8th grade. Where the heck are the
Dokujaryu
Oh yeah, like 115 isn't fast enough. Actually, I don't think 140 is enough. Where are the thousands of FPS? Your Athlon is WEAK! It's all about having the highest FPS in Q3, and 140 is just not fast enough for my eyes. I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE YOU KNOW.
Dokujaryu (just go to www.barefeats.com)
Actually, that would be the best new Mac for 3000$, and the OSX upgrade is free. If you are talking about BUYING OSX, it's 129$, not 189$. And you seem to know quite a lot about getting anally raped. It's probably what you feel the Mac is doing the the PC market.
Ahh well, such is life. I hope that one day you grow out of puberty and be able to accept that some people know more than you do.
Dokujaryu.
With the combonation of OSX and Dual 1ghz processors, Apple now is staged to show the world what it is made of. For all you nay-sayers that think Macs are only for Photoshop filters, I got news for you.
First of all, Macs cost less. SHUT UP! They do. If you compare an iMac to an equally equiped Dell, the iMac is 400$ less than the CD-RW version of the Dell and 400$ less than the DVD-R version. Dell 8200 vs. iMac, I tried the slower versions of the PCs on their website as well, but first off the speed comparison isn't fair to the PC, but the iMac still beat it in value until you go to the 1.1ghz Celeron version, which doesn't have graphics acceloration or a hard drive larger than 40 gigs. I haven't started with the new PowerMacs, but eventually I will have a website proving that a Mac costs less than any of the competition. Feel free to verify the numbers: iMac CD-RW 1299, dell, 1663
iMac DVD-R 1699, dell 2032
Now, past that, Mac is currently getting all the advantages of the BSD and open source software community since the Developers Tools, which look strikingly like Visual C++, come FREE when you buy OSX. They nativly compile OS 9, OS X, and BSD/Linux applictions, I currently develop a Mud server in Project Builder, which runs on BSD and Linux.
As far as graphics and video are concerened, it's OBVOIUS to anyone who KNOWS anything about processors that a 7 step G4 with the FPU unit used is going to be over twice as fast as a 20 step P4 using an FPU unit. Games, being an unfair arena to a superior processor which runs cooler at a lower voltage and clock speed, the Mac still matches the PC in most arenas. http://www.barefeats.com So speed isn't an issue.
Resale value is also better on a Mac. And if you haven't noticed, most new Mac software runs on hardware 3 years old! The staying power of a PowerMac is obvious. There's no need to upgrade at all till processor speeds almost tripple. (I upgraded from a G3 233 to a G4 733, with no problems)
SO, a special note to all you PC idiots. If you want to spend more money on slower computers, with hot running parts, bad operating systems, Microsofts invasion of privacy, and oh, let's not forget all those WONDERFUL games on PCs, that's fine. The best day of my life was when I left the 4000$ game system market and got a Mac. I much prefer GTA3 and FFX on PS2. Not to mention with OSX I have one click webserving, all the advantages of BSD, including the fastest SMP of any OS, and a huge open source community that is only growing with each Unix nut converted. What I don't get are you Unix/BSD/Linux junkies who don't see the joy in a Mac. It's BSD with the arguably the greatest User Interface made! There is an easy way to boot to console only ( click Other as login, ">console" as username, no password ), and everything made in Project Builder is easily portable to any other flavor of Unix or Linux, even MS-DOS for the sheep.
So PC people, get a clue, get a life, and get a Mac. Maybe then you can appreciate style, user interface, and speed, and if not, I'm sure you guys will never run out of reasons why you don't have a Mac. You have plenty of time to think about it while you wait for your PC to finish crashing and reboot.
Dokujaryu