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  1. Re:More Eyeballs on Open Source Security: Still A Myth · · Score: 1
    But again, the problem is the problems are not being found in the first place. Look for example, at Sendmail. It's 25 years old, but is *still* a buggy, buggy app. It STILL isn't secure and bug-free.
    Sendmail probably isn't really that great an example. The eyeballs that have looked at it with an eye toward security, or to anything else, have tended to respond "Runaway!". If you want a secure mail server, you use postfix, which was designed with that in mind (honorable mention to exim, and before postfix you might've given qmail a try).

    Similarly, if you care about security, you probably wouldn't run RedHat, you'd run Debian Stable, or possibly OpenBSD: open source software with a security team trying to keep a lid on problems.

    No, there's nothing magic about open source that automatically fixes the problems, but it at least makes it possible to fix the problems. It's closed source security that's a myth.

  2. Re:I actually found this kind of reassuring on Science Fiction Writers Discuss The Future · · Score: 1
    doom wrote:
    b-baggins wrote:
    crmartin wrote: Norman Spinrad has been predicting the end of civilization as we know it, and/or the collapse of the US into fascism, for thirty years that I remember. Bruce Sterling has been pushing the end of US innovation and the collapse of the economy for most of that time. I know most of those people, more or less, and while I love much of their fiction, I can't think of any one of them that I would consider other than a negative predictor.
    Oh... so you mean the United States isn't rapidly sliding into fascism, technological decline, and cultural irrelvance? Well, that's reassuring.
    No, it isn't. Sorry to pop your bubble. You've got problems with tenses here, there's a difference between "is happening" and "has happened".
    First, get you definitions straight so you know what the heck you're talking about. Fascism is an economic system whereby the state nationalizes all industry.
    Well, those definitions certainly are important. For instance, there's a huge difference between not being allowed to own anything, and owning stuff but being told exactly what you can do with it.

    (Norman Spinrad, by the way, almost always uses a much more colloquial definition of fascism, being the old sixties boy that he is. But it would be terrible to keep using his definition just because we're commenting on his remarks.)

    Your wishes vis a vis Microsoft notwithstanding we are nowhere near this and are not heading in this direction. We're heading more in a socialist direction.
    Ah yes. George W. Bush, socialist.
    Technological decline: Show me where technology is getting harder and harder to obtain. That's technological decline. North Korea is in technological decline (they can't even provide consistent electricity to the capital). The U.S. is not in technological decline.
    Try this thesis: the United States is in the business of technological leadership. Nearly any form of commodity manufacture is being outsourced to other countries (preferably un-democratic ones without either government labor regulations or much free-market competition in the local labor market). In order to maintain anything like it's present standards of living the US needs to keep inventing new stuff, it has to be the place where the smart people are doing smart things. Meanwhile, programming jobs are now also being outsourced...

    Sure, you can buy gadgets if you've got the cash. That's good... but where's the new, technical advance?

    (I guess it must be biotech. That's been the technology of the future for a few decades now.)

    Cultural irrelevance? Good grief. American culture is everywhere around the world. Movies, fashion, foods, etc.
    Movies: Japanese Anime. Hong kong action (e.g. "Hero"). Fashion: American fashion is sloppy T-shirts and baggy shorts, over increasingly obese bodies (thanks to the it's "foods"). No one outside of the States wants to look like someone from the States. Food: America does indeed have some great foods. We just call it "Mexican", "Thai", "Japanese", "Italian", "Greek", "African"... But wait a minute, I forgot Britney Spears! We can rest easy about American cultural dominence.
  3. Re:Thank God We Have Some Experts in the House on Science Fiction Writers Discuss The Future · · Score: 1
    Mulletproof wrote:
    Science Fiction Writers Discuss The Future!

    Annnnd...? Don't take this the wrong way, but so what? They write fiction for a living.
    And you write slashdot postings for free, and yet I read your remarks for some reason. What are your credentials anyway? Do I have any reason to accept your compentence at judging the general competence of the average science fiction writer?

    Anyway, Alfred Bester once remarked something to the effect that it seemed to him that Science Fiction was one of the few avenues of endeavor open to present day "rennaissance men". In an age of specialist, the generalists get stuck doing things like writing science fiction.

    Bruce Sterling himself frequently makes the point that science fiction writers have "the freedom to scratch ourselves in public". Which is to say that they can make speculative leaps that the more sober "responsible" professionals would have to keep quiet about for fear of their reputations.

    (And the actual problem with this article is not that the gang have comments that seem whacky and unsupportable, but that they're kind of dull and relatively conventional, and none of them had the room to expand on their point of view to the point that they might have gotten to something interesting.)

  4. Re:I actually found this kind of reassuring on Science Fiction Writers Discuss The Future · · Score: 1
    crmartin wrote:
    Norman Spinrad has been predicting the end of civilization as we know it, and/or the collapse of the US into fascism, for thirty years that I remember.

    Bruce Sterling has been pushing the end of US innovation and the collapse of the economy for most of that time.

    I know most of those people, more or less, and while I love much of their fiction, I can't think of any one of them that I would consider other than a negative predictor.
    Oh... so you mean the United States isn't rapidly sliding into fascism, technological decline, and cultural irrelvance? Well, that's reassuring.
  5. Re:Does anyone know of... on Science Fiction Writers Discuss The Future · · Score: 2, Insightful
    conner_bw wrote: Does anyone know of a right wing science fiction writer? (Ron Hubbard notwithstanding) At first I was wondering what "Science Fiction" had to do with politics.slashdot.org but after reading that article... If this is a plausible sample of the group as a whole then the world of science fiction is no doubt fiercely leaning towards the political left. (a) Sure there are relatively conservative SF writers around. Gregory Benford. Jerry Pournelle. John Shirley is fairly left wing, and he selected people he respects to talk to.

    (b) It is probably true that there's a "left wing" bias among SF writers, but then, there's a similar bias among the population of people who are literate and well-educated.

    Point (b) there is nothing to be particularly smug about, of course -- if we tried hard we could probably come up with examples of intelligent and well meaning people screwing things up, and we could also find examples (not necessarily the same ones) of people who regard themselves as really smart, but on closer examination seem to have an inflated opinion...

    But there does indeed seem to be a correlation between the dumbing down of the United States and the the swing to the right. Take your choice: Cause, effect, or coincidence.

  6. Re:Larry Jones & Mark Baushke, CVS mailing lis on Unsung Heroes of Open Source Software? · · Score: 1
    boots@work wrote:
    I don't know if Vesta is much of a contender. It looks like it's hard to adopt for projects that are not totally prepared to buy into its way of doing everything.
    Well, you could be right that that will make too many people reluctant to try it, but on the other hand "make" is almost as creaky and problematic as CVS (we're just -- mostly -- used to dancing around make's problems). Replacing both make and cvs in one-shot, with a mature, well-tested code base has it's appeals.
  7. Re:Asked and answered on Gnomoradio: Creative Commons Music Sharing · · Score: 1
    You may find yourself around a campfire someday with people from many different parts of the country/world, and a couple of guitars. What are you going to do, play your favorite local band's stuff or Billy Joel?
    If you have any brains, you'll play some Beatles songs.

    It is not inevitable that popular music is crap, it just seems like it these days. The people in the culture business are destroying the culture, hence, shortly they will be out of business.

  8. Re:Larry Jones & Mark Baushke, CVS mailing lis on Unsung Heroes of Open Source Software? · · Score: 1
    Try getting around a bit more... a few web searches will show you some of the common CVS criticisms. Before using any new tool, I do seaches on the phrases "___ sucks" and "___ considered harmful". (And if you don't get any hits on those, then the code is obviously too new to be relied on.)

    There are a bunch of competitors to the CVS throne. Prominent names that come to mind:

    • subversion
    • Gnu Arch
    • Vesta
    There's also the now venerable but proprietary perforce, and the proprietary bitkeeper (which is gratis, but only under some circumstances).
  9. Henry Spencer on Unsung Heroes of Open Source Software? · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hereby suggest for your consideration Henry Spencer, only in part for the open source code that he's written -- he was the author of a popular regular expression library, for example. The really massive contribution that Henry Spencer has made, in my opinion is *informed commentary*. He's spent decades hanging around in the C programming newsgroups (not to mention the sci.space.* tree) answering questions intelligently. This is the kind of contribution that I think gets ignored far too often... yes great coders deserve to be honored, but people willing to educate and to do it for free on a volunteer basis, and *do a good job of it* are if anything even rarer.

  10. Nice to have one of my predictions coming true... on Dodgeball: Text Your Location To Friends · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Well, it's nice to be right about something for once. It looks an awful lot like one of my predictions is coming true, and roughly on schedule, see this usenet post from January 1, 2001:
    Well excuse the tangent, but this reminds me of something I've been thinking about lately. It strikes me that the really compulsive cell phone people seem to be just nervously checking each other's movements. E.g. "I'm on the train, no it isn't late, I'll be there in 20 minutes." (I paraphrase... actually it seems to take them about 5 minutes of repetitious back-and-forth to get out a simple message like that.)

    I predict that within five years, you will see people voluntarily wearing location transponders, so that people can take out their palm computers, and quickly identify the locations of all members of their virtual tribe. "Oh, look, Jason, Chelsea and Talbot are all over at the Roaring Sushi Dome. Let's go join them there."

    Then you get into the evolution of customs for things like initiation into the tribe, rules of etiquette for when you're allowed to have your transponder on or off, quasi-legal proceedings for ejection and shunning, and so on.

    And I guess this is somewhat reminscent of some stuff from the middle novels of Benford's "Galaxy" series (e.g. "Flushed down the Toilet of the Gods", or whatever it was called).
  11. Re:We are all anarchists on The Anarchist in the Library · · Score: 1
    For a good fictional book on an Anarchist society check out The Dispossessed.
    I'd suggest Cecilia Holland's Floating Worlds instead.
  12. Re:PHP suckage, silliness of the LAMP terminology on PHP Not Moving To The GPL · · Score: 1
    Why hello Anonymous. It seems like I was arguing with you just yesterday.

    Doom none of these points mean that PHP sucks, many of them aren ot present intentionally.

    You obviously haven't done your research
    Hm... what led you to that conclusion? It couldn't be because I said I hadn't done any research, could it?
    and have very little real world experience.
    I have enough experience to know better than to jump on the latest fads in new languages. Life is too short. And by the way, if you really care about code reuse, maybe you should actually reuse code, e.g. from CPAN.
    I'd say Perl sucks much more, it is inconsistent,
    Try following the link to that article, and come back again if you think that perl's inconsistencies are worse than PHPs.
    code written in perl is nearly impossible to maintain,
    Yet strangely enough there are people who do indeed manage to pull off this impossible trick.
    there are too many ways to do something poorly,
    Are you supposed to be defending a straight-jacket language like Java? I thought you were a PHP advocate.

    PHP evidentally has neither lexical or dynamic namespaces. I repeat: it has *no* namespaces. And you're trying to tell me it's easier to maintain PHP code than perl?

    I work at a fortune 500 company and it is banned from any of our tools and is also banned at most our partners sites.
    Yes indeed. Many companies seem to prefer hiring 10 Java programmers to 1 perl guy. They'll learn better at some point.
    Our average engineer has a masters degree and over 15 years experience, these aren't people who can't learn languages they are people who have come to the conclusion perl is the wrong tool.
    And yet they *like* PHP?
    Perl is without doubt the most inconcistent language I've ever seen
    I'm tempted to say something about the consistency of your spelling. But that would be wrong.
    and it is breaking backwards compatability almost completely with Perl 6
    Pfft: (a) perl 5 remains under active development. (b) By design, you will be able to run perl 5 code under perl 6. No one is forcing anyone to change syntax. Try doing some research.
    so while you are learning a new syntax my PHP 4 scripts will be happily running under PHP5.
    Have you ever tried to use a *big* PHP app? Like say, the Horde web application framework? I have not looked under the hood, and I have no doubt there's room for finger pointing in many directions there, but using Horde and the IMP webmail program has been a grossly painful experience. (My prediction is that you're not going to be maintaining your PHP scripts when perl6 comes out, you're going to throw them away and do re-writes in another language.)
    When you get a bit older and have some real world experience and can come up with some of your own examples instead of things that are claimed to be features come back and we'll talk.
    When you understand what namespaces are for, I might be willing to listen to you.

    (By the way... do you understand anything about how slash ids work? Oh, never mind.)

  13. PHP suckage, silliness of the LAMP terminology on PHP Not Moving To The GPL · · Score: 2, Interesting
    treat (84622) wrote:
    PHP is a terrible language. It is horribly inconsistant. It has no namespaces. It encourages mixing design and presentation.

    This has a well-reasoned explanation as to why PHP sucks, and some links:

    php in contrast to perl
    Hm, thanks that's an interesting article. I've had the vauge impression that PHP sucks, but didn't really have a lot of ammunition on the subject (I've avoided learning much about it).

    To be fair to PHP though, it does have (had?) the advantage of a smaller memory footprint, and I gather that a lot of ISPs feel more comfortable about letting random users loose with it rather than giving them access to mod_perl.

    ObOnTopic: I'm mildly annoyed at the author of the article proudly proclaiming that PHP is the "P" in LAMP. That "P" has a number of interpretations.

    Though in general LAMP is a really lousy piece of terminology. People use it to mean "free/open source web technology" when it's far too specific about software names. Someone who uses FreeBSD and a Postgresql database evidentally doesn't qualify... but if Postgresql would change it's name to MostGreatSql, then all of a sudden it would be allowed in the club...

  14. Re:"NULLS are bad." quote on SQL, XML, and the Relational Database Model · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Date/Darwin/Pascal propose that you codify what you don't know (so to speak). Read their proposed solution here:
    Well, I read it and essentially what they're saying is that instead of having a single NULL that means "we don't have the info and we don't know why", they recommend having lots of single column tables pointing at the missing values, one table for each reason/excuse. So instead of having NULLs in the salary field, you've got tables that explain "No salary because the guy is on commision", "No salary because the guy is unemployed", "No salary because it is regarded as confidential", and so on.

    What strikes me about this notion (outside of it's general clunkiness) is that it seems to assume that you will always know why you don't know. In reality, I think systems like this would sprout lots of tables called "unknown_value_for_unknown_reasons".

  15. Re:What a silly question on Is Caps Lock Dead? · · Score: 1
    Overly Critical Guy wrote:
    Of course caps lock is necessary. It's necessary for whenever you want to type in all-caps without holding shift the whole time. I can think of dozens of examples of this.
    And just think of all the tech support people who would be put out of work if they couldn't respond to "I can't log-in!" with "Have you tried turning the Caps-Lock key off?"
  16. Re:Swap caps lock and control on Is Caps Lock Dead? · · Score: 4, Interesting
    jesup wrote:
    Ah. A vi user. If you're an Emacs user, having the capslock key mapped to control is the ONLY way to fly. As others have said, that's the One True Position for the control key.
    That's the traditional position, I agree -- and I've never understood what the moron's were thinking who moved the standard control key location under the shift. But I'm an emacs user who's also using one of the kinesis contoured-model, programmable keyboards, and the Control and Alt keys are already very accessible under the thumbs (my numb-pinky-syndrome went away when I switched to the kinesis, I highly recommend them for heavy emacs abusers).

    There are a few really big flaws in the kinesis layout though, one is the damn Caps Lock next to the A, the other is a tiny chicklet Escape key way up in left field. But the Kinesis layout is easy to re-program, so I tried a few different re-arrangements and evenutally settled on making the key next to A another Escape, just like mister Vim-User recommends.

  17. Re:Word of wisdom: emacs on Dealing with the Unix Copy and Paste Paradigm? · · Score: 1
    You're right--I was just being a wiki tease. Point is, more folks need to be vectored there to appreciate the full-on blast of righteousness that is emacs.
    Not to mention the newsgroup, alt.religion.emacs.
  18. Re:Word of wisdom: emacs on Dealing with the Unix Copy and Paste Paradigm? · · Score: 1
    smitty_one_each wrote:
    The more you use it, the more you use it. Out of the box, it might not do much of anything you want, but few problems you can envision haven't been solved.
    Okay, this is *somewhat* informative, but not terribly. First of all, try labeling your html links with something, that might, you know, *tell someone something about where the link is going*: EmacsWiki: CategoryKeys

    Secondly, there's an awful lot of information there, and what's strictly relevant to the question at hand is getting C-c and C-v to do copy and paste: CopyAndPaste. Note that this discusses cua.el, a package written by Kim Storm (also, by the way, the original author of the excellent usenet newsreader "nn") to get emacs cut-and-paste to behave more like the way a windows user would expect.

    The Emacs Way of doing these things can be taken as yet another paradigm, by the way. Unlike the old windows and mac "clipboards", the emacs "clipboard" can have multiple things clipped to it... it's called the "kill-ring", and it's essentially a stack that you push things on to. Select a region, "kill" (aka "cut") that region, it ends up on the kill-ring. Do that again, and that entry is pushed down one, and the new selection ends up on the kill-ring. Move somewhere else, and you can "yank" the last thing killed off of the kill-ring, and if it wasn't what you wanted, you can do a "yank-pop", and start rotating through the stuff on the ring until you find what you were looking for.

    Now (with Gnu Emacs 21, at least) the "PRIMARY" selection in X is associated with the top element on the "kill-ring". Do a "kill" in emacs, move to an X app, do a middle-click, and you should get the item that was just killed. Highlight something in the X app with the mouse, switch to emacs, do a "yank" command, and you'll get the item that was highlighted.

    This, of course, just scratches the surface of emacs capabilities in this area... I've become a big fan of the "registers", i.e. the ability to store something in register "a", and something else in register "b", and something else in "c" and so on, and to be able to insert them by name. For example, when writing a bunch of slashdot postings, the "b" register tends to have the BLOCKQUOTE html tag stashed in it.

  19. Re:Common problem.. on Dealing with the Unix Copy and Paste Paradigm? · · Score: 1
    Besides, why is what the windows user expects more important than what the vi user expects? Is good design based on the vagaries of fasion, or is it derived from principles?
    But if you cared about principles you'd probably be using emacs.
  20. Re:Criticism without Solution on Bruce Sterling On Lovelock's Pro-Nuclear Stance · · Score: 1
    The nuclear danger has been overstated, and I'm sure is willingly fed by the oil and coal industries.
    I enjoy a good conspiracy theory as much as the next man, but if you look into it, I think you'll find that it's all the same people, more or less. The utility that runs a nuke is also a utility that runs some coal/oil/gas plants. As far as they're concerned they're in the "energy industry".

    The effect that this has though, is that the strongest arguments for nuclear power have very little voice. That utility isn't going to point out that nuclear is cleaner than coal, because they'd be shooting themselves in the foot.

  21. Re:Criticism without Solution on Bruce Sterling On Lovelock's Pro-Nuclear Stance · · Score: 1
    justins wrote:
    Reprocessing has been a non-starter due to environmentalist opposition, expense, additional waste generation, and worries about having purified plutonium around.
    Which isn't unreasonable if you read about what went on at Hanford or Fernauld. It's not that nuclear fission is inherently dangerous. It's that a lot of the work involved means having people handle dangerous stuff, and people by nature don't appear to be careful enough.
    The pro-nuke case, is of course, that people are more careful with radioactives than they are with chemicals, and that it's easier to be more careful with them, because you don't need to use as much of them (the difference in quantities per killowatt for both fuel and waste for a nuke plant vs a coal plant is really striking, by any measure you want to pick (volume or weight) and including a factor to adjust for the toxicity of different things doesn't help much.

    But anyway, what I wanted to point out is that different organizations have had radically different safety records with handling radioactives. As someone else mentioned, the Navy's safety record has been really impressive, and as you point out, the Army has been much less so. This appears to be largely a difference in cultures: the Navy has a tradition of stowing away things carefully, securing the cannons, swabbing the decks, etc. The Army has a tradition of getting dirty to get the job done, crawling through the mud if need be.

    The point is that "human error" is not some implacable, irreducible force. It really is manageable, and there are people who know how to manage it.

  22. Re:The secret is to bang the rocks together guys on Flash 7 for Linux Released · · Score: 1

    I think this is perhaps the key disagrement between us, you seem to be suggesting that because a tool can be used to create "bad" content that is a function of the tool, and my position is that that is a function of the user of the tool.

    You're just restating the disagreement. Yeah, that's right that's pretty much what it is.

    Issues like this come up *every* time someone comes up with a glitzy "innovation" in computers. Great, all of a sudden you can easily use all sorts of fonts in a document, and then you get the people who can't resist playing with the toy even though they don't have anything like a feel for what they're doing and often they forget about the original purpose of the document they were working on.

    For that matter, you can go back before computers. The "A/V" revolution was supposed to be the great hope of education, but in practice it turns out you need a genius of the medium (e.g. Frank Capra, "Hemo the Great", "The Strange Case of the Cosmic Ray") to produce a short educational film that actually educates and doesn't just bore to death. My take: "Hm... maybe the geezer-with-blackboard method has some advantages"; your take: "We need more visual geniuses!"

    For example it leads to the conclusion that you don't solve the problem by changing the tool, you solve the problem by changing the user.

    The point that I'm trying to make is that to a large extent you've got to regard human nature as fixed. The tools you can change, the human beings you're stuck with (in the short term):

    • "Boy alot of our customers keep slicing their legs open with our circluar saw product. Huh, you want to add a mechanical safety interlock to shield the blade? What a waste! Those idiots just need to wake up."
    • "Gee, lots of people have accidents while driving when drunk. I guess they need better training at how to drive while drunk. That kind of thing would never happen to me, I'm a *great* drunk driver."

    I accept your argument that macromedia is in control of the standard, but that doesn't stop it from being a standard none the less.

    You have a funny notion of what consitutes a standard.

    Part of the problem with standards bodies like the w3.org is that by their very nature they are slow and bureaucratic.

    That's a point.

    I don't know if you recall the whole browser wars experience firsthand (obviously I mean the first browser wars here IE vs Netscape, not any of the current peacekeeping actions), but part of the problem was that the w3.org took forever defining the next standard

    Feh. I would deny that that was *anything* like the real problem. The problem is when things are moving that fast no one has a clue about what the right thing to do is. Netscape and Microsoft would go crazy on this or that "feature" on the theory that it might help them compete, but mostly that was all wasted energy -- and we're lucky they didn't destroy the web as a byproduct of their crazy in-fighting.

    For more failings of the slowness of standards bodies have a look at the take up of SVG format, and compare and contrast with betamax VHS.

    I would be very interested in a knowledgeable take on what was going on with SVG. Whizzy graphics features are not exactly an area of interest of mine, and I will admit to not being up on what went down with that.

    (Why do you guys incessantly bring up Betamax? Who really cares? Okay, it was better than VHS, but only marginally. A better question would be why people bought Microsoft instead of, say, Borland.)

    ... the net was taking a quantum leap, it stopped being purely an academic tool

    Well, it was never a purely academic tool, it was however largely only used by people with some sort of academic connection.

  23. the joys of lynx on Flash 7 for Linux Released · · Score: 1
    mulesex wrote:
    I presume of course you only use lynx to browse?
    Occasionally, but not exclusively. My browsing needs are met by a number of applications and programming libraries depending on what is needed. There is no best browser. Certainly, I believe that images (lacking in lynx) are massively useful in portraying certain types of web content.
    It is, of course, unlikely to impress the flash-weenies, but all of the anti-flash rants I posted last night were done in lynx. Lynx is fine for a lot of stuff... I've got a small "xlynx" script that spins off a URL into a lynx in a new terminal window, which can be useful for looking at a URL I come across in emacs (MH-E, gnus) without using w3.el (which I generally only use when composing html that I want to keep pre-viewing).

    I've also got a "slash" alias, that opens up a terminal window with slashdot in lynx. I've got my slashdot preferences set for light/minimal whatever they call it, which cuts down on some of the fugliness that might be (even more) irritating in lynx.

    But the main reason I started rambling about this, is that I thought I'd mention that lynx and image browsing are not mutally exclusive. I think the key is adding a

    verbose_images=on
    to your .lynxrc, and maybe you'll need to tweak your systems lynx.cfg file so you've got an image viewer defined:
    XLOADIMAGE_COMMAND:xv %s
    (I think what I do is leave it defined as xv, and use an alias to have calls to xv run whatever I feel like using, e.g. ee.)

    Anyway... Once you're configured like this you always have the *option* of looking at an image. You select it the way you would select any link, and it opens it in an external image viewer.

    Selecting the right image can take a little practice, however (many sites are a forest of stupid little images of bullets and bars, and they *still* like to be skimpy on the ALT text).

    As with many other tools, the virtues of lynx are intimately bound up in it's limitations. Looking at a site that insists on subdividing your screen into little boxes? Lynx will tend to linearize those, you'll see one thing after another. Does the site tend to inflict itty bitty fonts on you? In mozilla you may have to keep hitting Control plus and minus to adjust font size after every click, but in lynx, all text is displayed in the same uniform way that you've choosen. Is the site completely incomprehensible when viewed without all the graphical doodads? Well you know, maybe that means it's not worth looking at anyway...

    And of course, lynx will *never* bug you to install a flash plug-in...

  24. Re:How lovely on Flash 7 for Linux Released · · Score: 1
    Any similar tips if I don't have root? I'm using Moz 1.0.2 on IRIX, and I hate having "you need a plugin" boxes popping up all over the place.
    That's a good question, but I don't really know the answer. It could be that there's some way for you to set up a dummy "libnullplugin.so" and get your mozilla to find it rather than the "real" one. I dunno.

    You might be better off just asking the sysadmin about it. There might be some beauracratic reason they can't delete it for you, but they'll probably be impressed with how super-cool you are and invite you out for a beer.

  25. Re:No, Seriously. . . on Flash 7 for Linux Released · · Score: 1
    Interesting... I wonder what made this one post qualify as a troll compared to the half dozen other angry anti-flash rants I posted last night.

    Maybe it's because this one actually suggests a course of action:

    ... at the moment I do this by sending email to flash sites explaining why I refuse to install flash, and hence will not be looking at their site.