I've always had very mixed feelings about unions, and never had any desire to join one. Something like that would change my mind. If I can dream, I'd love to see Facebook shut down by a strike, with the strikers returning only if strict work rules are implemented.
All the more reason to stop using the term "undocumented immigrant" when the issue is illegal immigrants. I know of no one opposed to helping people find their paperwork, but people who are here illegally is another story.
shouldn't the word also "Illegal" refer to people who've committed bank fraud, theft, murder, rape or other heinous crimes?
If you prefer, but I think "criminal" or "felon" are better words. By comparison the word "illegal" is pretty mild, as it can refer to something as minor as a civil violation. Do you think we should use the milder term to refer to people who've committed bank fraud, theft, murder, rape or other heinous crimes?
I assure you the Mongols under the khans would have dealt with Marco quite harshly if they hadn't wanted him around. Should we adopt a similar policy? Personally I'm the soft-hearted kind that prefers deportation to execution.
Having accidentally been born somewhere shouldn't give you special privileges.
Good idea. Let's get rid of the birthright citizenship that ensured that former slaves were citizens, and also ensures that the children of illegal aliens who were born here are US citizens. Do you prefer that we abandon jus soli in favor of jus sanguinis, so that people whose families have been in this country for generations are not citizens? Or should everyone just be stateless until such time as some country decides to grant them citizenship?
I'm quite certain the Native Americans would love to have their country back and see all the descendants of those assholes who slaughtered their people and took their land deported.
Which "Native Americans" (BTW, most prefer to be called Indians) are you referring to? Are you concerned about the territory that the Navajo and Apache stole from the Zuni and other peoples who've been in the Southwest longer? How about the parts of what's now South Dakota that were grabbed by the Lakota? The Ohio river valley that the Haudenosaunee took by war from the Miami and Shawnee?
Looks like the genyuses of Silicon Valley's bleeding edge social media have been hard at work creating ever more reliable software. I'm glad these people don't work on banking networks. Perhaps Zuck and company should offer their expertise to the Obamacare website.
Turkish. A native speaker told me that it has only one irregular verb. Perhaps they keep it around so students can be already familiar with the concept when they learn a foreign language.
You don't actually have to accuse someone of "lying" if they merely have a different opinion to you!
Now you're contradicting yourself. Is the meaning of "undocumented immigrant" a question of fact or opinion?
The term is so widely, and so clearly, used as a synonym for illegal alien, that I don't consider it a matter of opinion. You are technically correct though in saying it doesn't mean the GP is lying, since lying is defined as deliberately telling a falsehood. The alternative is the the GP is ignorant enough to believe it's true.
Are you aware of some backdoors in Huawei equipment which allow Huawei (or/and Chinese government) to remotely gain access to equipment + data?
I doubt he is. I also doubt he's aware of any specific backdoors in Cisco equipment either. However, we're not talking about a court here. If you think absence of proof is enough reason to trust something, I've got a bridge to sell you.
The GP isn't saying that the Chinese government is better than the US government. As an American, no matter how critical I am of the US government, I think such ideas are absurd. All the GP is saying is that China doesn't really care about Joe Average American. Why should they? Some powerful or influential people, those with access to important classified or proprietary information, sure, but not Joe Average.
Banned from USA, on instant-arrest watchlist at every airport, etc. You used to be cool USA. I actually used to respect NSA. Not now. There is doing things "illegally" within reason, then there is just straight-up abusive levels of illegality that they are presently doing. Now that China are finally growing up, I actually respect them far more.
Why? Because at least they never claimed to be the land of the free? However bad the US is, China is worse (or if not, they're working on the tech). It's just that I hold my own country to a higher standard.
People think China is potentially some bastion of openness because it's better than when Mao ran the show. That's a pretty low bar. And heck, the Tiananmen square massacre was 24 years ago. They've changed so much - might as well be talking about the Qin dynasty, right?
If only they got that whole censorship nonsense away.
If only the Chinese government wasn't the Chinese government.
China would benefit hugely by opening up more since they are a huge influence in many markets.
The same is true of the US, and we've actually had experience doing that. It's just that things have been retrograde for the last decade or so.
I think that you can trust Cisco with your data, at least in the US. Why build backdoors into the equipment when service providers give the NSA open access anyway. It'd be like getting lock picks when they'll just open the door for you.
Don't blame you. As an American, I also don't trust either.
you're more at risk from the security exploits from Huawei's lazy half-assed programmers
At least when you find a backdoor in Cisco products, you know it was meant to be a backdoor.
As an American I'd like to believe the Huawei programmers are incompetent. OTOH it would be very clever to disguise a backdoor as a bug, or turn a bug into a backdoor. Hold it, Microsoft/NSA has already used the latter approach. Damn Chinese just copy our ideas.
That's an extremely paranoid, borderline tin foil hat, conspiracy theory. Given recent information that has helped people determine the veracity of such wild eyed ideas, there's a very good chance you're right.
Flawed logic, assuming that a socialist program is beneficial to all.
Oh please. Would it make you happy if I changed it to "potentially benefits", or can you work your way past some miniscule ambiguity of colloquial English? Are you seriously going to compare that to a whopper (warning: colloquialism) like "if the program were the cause, then everyone would come out the same"? We can have a substantive debate, or we can play sophistic games. Never mind, you've already made your preference clear.
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Much better even than the crap you can pull w/ H-1B's. Citizens and LPR's (green card holders) have a nasty ability to say "f you" and walk out.
I've always had very mixed feelings about unions, and never had any desire to join one. Something like that would change my mind. If I can dream, I'd love to see Facebook shut down by a strike, with the strikers returning only if strict work rules are implemented.
All the more reason to stop using the term "undocumented immigrant" when the issue is illegal immigrants. I know of no one opposed to helping people find their paperwork, but people who are here illegally is another story.
Maybe because being undocumented has nothing to do with being here illegally?
Indeed, the two rarely coincide.
Cite? Obama has actually been tougher on illegal aliens than his predecessors. Cheap labor from illegal aliens is near and dear to wealthy Texans.
Conflating two stories that shouldn't be conflated
Why not? Both have to do with reducing the hourly cost of labor, which Zuck is keen to do as he believes he's undercompensated.
You call it cynical - I call it hopeful.
shouldn't the word also "Illegal" refer to people who've committed bank fraud, theft, murder, rape or other heinous crimes?
If you prefer, but I think "criminal" or "felon" are better words. By comparison the word "illegal" is pretty mild, as it can refer to something as minor as a civil violation. Do you think we should use the milder term to refer to people who've committed bank fraud, theft, murder, rape or other heinous crimes?
I assure you the Mongols under the khans would have dealt with Marco quite harshly if they hadn't wanted him around. Should we adopt a similar policy? Personally I'm the soft-hearted kind that prefers deportation to execution.
Having accidentally been born somewhere shouldn't give you special privileges.
Good idea. Let's get rid of the birthright citizenship that ensured that former slaves were citizens, and also ensures that the children of illegal aliens who were born here are US citizens. Do you prefer that we abandon jus soli in favor of jus sanguinis, so that people whose families have been in this country for generations are not citizens? Or should everyone just be stateless until such time as some country decides to grant them citizenship?
I'm quite certain the Native Americans would love to have their country back and see all the descendants of those assholes who slaughtered their people and took their land deported.
Which "Native Americans" (BTW, most prefer to be called Indians) are you referring to? Are you concerned about the territory that the Navajo and Apache stole from the Zuni and other peoples who've been in the Southwest longer? How about the parts of what's now South Dakota that were grabbed by the Lakota? The Ohio river valley that the Haudenosaunee took by war from the Miami and Shawnee?
Looks like the genyuses of Silicon Valley's bleeding edge social media have been hard at work creating ever more reliable software. I'm glad these people don't work on banking networks. Perhaps Zuck and company should offer their expertise to the Obamacare website.
Turkish. A native speaker told me that it has only one irregular verb. Perhaps they keep it around so students can be already familiar with the concept when they learn a foreign language.
For example, family moved here illegaly but baby is born within US borders in a shack without a birth certificate. The baby is then 'undocumented'.
And then the baby is not an immigrant, so the term "undocumented immigrant" doesn't apply.
Naturalised US citizen who lost passport, then became homeless and ended up the other side of the country with amnesia = Undocumented.
That happens so frequently that the number of such people is far greater than the number of people who knowingly come to the US illegally.
Unless, any immigration is proved in court to be illegal, it is undocumented. Innocent until proven guilty, remember?
You're being silly. This is not a court. If you prefer we can use the term "alleged illegal immigrant".
You're being factually incorrect
Where is the GP being factually incorrect?
You don't actually have to accuse someone of "lying" if they merely have a different opinion to you!
Now you're contradicting yourself. Is the meaning of "undocumented immigrant" a question of fact or opinion?
The term is so widely, and so clearly, used as a synonym for illegal alien, that I don't consider it a matter of opinion. You are technically correct though in saying it doesn't mean the GP is lying, since lying is defined as deliberately telling a falsehood. The alternative is the the GP is ignorant enough to believe it's true.
Are you aware of some backdoors in Huawei equipment which allow Huawei (or/and Chinese government) to remotely gain access to equipment + data?
I doubt he is. I also doubt he's aware of any specific backdoors in Cisco equipment either. However, we're not talking about a court here. If you think absence of proof is enough reason to trust something, I've got a bridge to sell you.
you might consider the idea of moving to China
The GP isn't saying that the Chinese government is better than the US government. As an American, no matter how critical I am of the US government, I think such ideas are absurd. All the GP is saying is that China doesn't really care about Joe Average American. Why should they? Some powerful or influential people, those with access to important classified or proprietary information, sure, but not Joe Average.
Banned from USA, on instant-arrest watchlist at every airport, etc. You used to be cool USA. I actually used to respect NSA. Not now. There is doing things "illegally" within reason, then there is just straight-up abusive levels of illegality that they are presently doing. Now that China are finally growing up, I actually respect them far more.
Why? Because at least they never claimed to be the land of the free? However bad the US is, China is worse (or if not, they're working on the tech). It's just that I hold my own country to a higher standard.
People think China is potentially some bastion of openness because it's better than when Mao ran the show. That's a pretty low bar. And heck, the Tiananmen square massacre was 24 years ago. They've changed so much - might as well be talking about the Qin dynasty, right?
If only they got that whole censorship nonsense away.
If only the Chinese government wasn't the Chinese government.
China would benefit hugely by opening up more since they are a huge influence in many markets.
The same is true of the US, and we've actually had experience doing that. It's just that things have been retrograde for the last decade or so.
I think that you can trust Cisco with your data, at least in the US. Why build backdoors into the equipment when service providers give the NSA open access anyway. It'd be like getting lock picks when they'll just open the door for you.
After all, the back doors we have in our switches are the same back doors we inherited from their code when we stole it a few years ago.
At least American technology is still ahead.
we don't trust the US or the Chinese
Don't blame you. As an American, I also don't trust either.
you're more at risk from the security exploits from Huawei's lazy half-assed programmers
At least when you find a backdoor in Cisco products, you know it was meant to be a backdoor.
As an American I'd like to believe the Huawei programmers are incompetent. OTOH it would be very clever to disguise a backdoor as a bug, or turn a bug into a backdoor. Hold it, Microsoft/NSA has already used the latter approach. Damn Chinese just copy our ideas.
At least the Chinese don't try to invade countries throughout the world, they were content with Tibet.
Give 'em time. Wars are expensive, so they've been developing their economy. They've been pretty belligerent about various islands, big and small.
That's an extremely paranoid, borderline tin foil hat, conspiracy theory. Given recent information that has helped people determine the veracity of such wild eyed ideas, there's a very good chance you're right.
Touché. Hardware and software have more in common than I thought.
Flawed logic, assuming that a socialist program is beneficial to all.
Oh please. Would it make you happy if I changed it to "potentially benefits", or can you work your way past some miniscule ambiguity of colloquial English? Are you seriously going to compare that to a whopper (warning: colloquialism) like "if the program were the cause, then everyone would come out the same"? We can have a substantive debate, or we can play sophistic games. Never mind, you've already made your preference clear.