Anyone remember those cheesy little balsa-wood toy airplanes they used to sell at the grocery store, with a rubber band-driven propeller? Would cost a $2-3? By your 'definition' you could be flying one of those, have someone shoot it down with a BB gun, and the guy with the BB gun goes to prison and has a felony on his record the rest of his life, in addition to the $250k fine. In other words your assertion is utterly rediculous, they're talking about actual aircraft, not toys being operated by irresponsible (or just plain skeezy, slimey) people, that's what we have judges for, to interpret the laws so they're applied correctly and fairly (and not just to the strict letter of them), and since this is a new phenomenon all the potentially applicable laws haven't been updated (or written for that matter) so again your assertion is rediculous. Stop trying to be a lawyer.
Listen, jerk: I don't particularly like that 'KGIII' guy you're responding to, but I do agree with him on this issue. The guy who shot down the drone will have to deal with the consequences of discharging a firearm within city limits like he did, but I think he had every right to do what he did, and drone operators need to keep their toys away from people's houses.
The creators were sent an image of the vandalized robot Saturday but couldn't track its location because the battery is dead. They said they don't know who destroyed it or why.
The perpetrators of this vandalism probably were bored, undereducated, underachieving young WHITE male(s). The definition of 'nigger' has changed; it has to do with how you think and act, not the color of your skin. Ironically, racist pieces of shit who go around calling black people 'niggers' are the ones who are the real niggers in the world, because they're largely who are perpetuating so-called race-related problems.
Sexconker, you certainly didn't intend it, but for once you're right: Facebook is for cows.
Should we get you a different toy to play with than just the See and Say? Surely you're getting bored with it by now, kiddo. How about a nice Ironman Mister Potato-head?
Currently, there is no such thing as 'artificial intelligence'; what we do have are some clever pieces of software that are expert systems. They cannot and do not 'think', not at all in the sense that a human does. The chance of us developing such a thing is still so far into the future that it's not even really worth considering seriously. For someone so apparently so otherwise intelligent, Elon Musk is just embarassing himself with this entire line of conversation. I think he needs to just continue focusing on getting the private sector into space, and getting more people into electric cars.
If the speed limit is 25 (which it was in this case) and I was going 28 or 29 (which I was, and which is not far enough above the limit to get ticketed) then what's the point of passing me, especially in a residential neighborhood? I was in the middle of the right-hand side of the street, which was the safest place for me to be at that speed. The guy in the car (which happened to be a Porsche, and the driver appeared to be middle-aged) actually was being extremely unsafe in passing me. If some kid ran out into the street in front of me, the result would be me in the hospital and a scared, but uninjured kid; the result of some kid running out in front of the arrogant fool in his Porsche would either be a dead kid, or massive property damage when he ran into either parked cars or someone's house trying to avoid hitting a kid in the street. People can hate on me for being a cyclist all they want, I'm used to it, but you can't defend that guy for being an arrogant ass like that, when his only excuse is he didn't want to be behind a bicycle that was preventing him from driving 50mph in a 25mph zone.
Yes, AC. The cow says 'moo'. The pig says 'oink'. The chickens say 'cluck cluck'. The horse says 'neigh'. The duck says 'quack quack'. The geese say 'honk honk'. The sheep say 'baaaa'. The dog says 'woof'. The frog says 'ribbit'. The coyote says 'aaaahwoooooo'. The rooster says 'cockadoodledoo!'. The cat says 'meow'. And the turkey says 'gooble gobble'. Now please go play with your See and Say quietly somewhere else, k? The adults are having a conversation, sweetie. If you're good, maybe you'll get a cookie later.
************ Now, then, ISPs: I have only one thing to say about them and all their little temper tantrums they keep having: MUH PROFIT MARGIN. Get over it, ISPs, and get correct.
I have noticed motorists get impatient when I take the lane
Your'e not the only one. Just last week, in a hilly neighborhood, I was on a descent and exceeding the posted speed limit while doing it.. and someone in a car went out of their way to pass me regardless. They had to have been going at least 50mph to do it, too. Nonsensical.
Generally speaking you should not be feeding the trolls like you just did, because that's what that was: trolling, and very garden-variety trolling at that, but your math-fu and physics-fu is strong, and you brought yet another angle to refuting all the same old and busted arguments about bikes and road wear. Something else that can be added to the anti-argument, especially for those of us who live here in the U.S., is an eventual reduction in health insurance costs, as more people would be encouraged to ride bikes, making them healthier overall, reducing the occurrance of obesity, diabetes, and heart disease, which would make healthcare less expensive for everyone in the long run.
Anyone who (apparently) gets this upset over a simple discussion on the Internet is either a troll, or someone who feels so powerless in their real life that stirring up shit on the Internet is the only way they can feel relevant. Or whatever your problem is. Regardless: I have no time for someone like you. Go pick a fight with someone else, someone who gives a damn, OK? It's not like what you or anyone else on the Internet says is going to change anything I have to say, or anything else about me either.
'Proving' age isn't going to be the issue. Porn sites moving their hosting to outside the legal boundaries of the country will be the problem. Or does Cameron think the British Empire still exists, and he can just send troops to another country to enforce his wishes? I never cease to be surprised when politicians in any country fail to learn that you can't legislate morality. The onus of 'protecting' children from things on the Internet still falls squarely upon parents, as it should be.
Hoo-kay.. you're just yet another pedantic, argument-loving internet person, and as such I'm not taking you seriously. Maybe you should just relax a little? We're not world leaders, nothing we say here is going to decide who lives and who dies, we're just having a conversation. Just chill out instead of getting all lathered up over a single word.
Listen, guy: of course it's all speculation right now. I don't even think the scientists at companies like Monsanto really know what long-term effects GMOs will have on the planet. I would like it if there were zero problems with them, but I think it's foolish to ignore the possibility that they rushed things and that somewhere down the line something bad might happen as a result. Frankly if I had more confidence in a company like Monsanto being a good citizen I'd be a bit more at ease over the whole subject, but you can't say that Monsanto leaves people with a warm, fuzzy feeling. Also you have to admit: Especially on Slashdot, you find an inordinately large percentage of early adopters to any new technological developments, and frankly I find many of them to be rather short-sighted.
A brief review of the past 100 or so of your comments reveals that you're just yet another one of those jackasses who likes to argue with people for the sake of starting an argument, so you can fuck the hell off, there's no way I'll ever take you seriously. Although I suppose in your case your pointlessly argumentative nature is largely due to the fact that you're a bitter old man who has nothing left to him in life other than to be bitter, argumentative, and contrary, as there's no other way for you to feel relevant anymore other than hacking on as many other people online as you can every day.
Flywheels.. fuel cells.. 'charging efficiency'.. never mind all that. Where's my all-electric small pickup truck? Where's my electric motorcycle? Not everyone needs or wants just a two- or four-door sedan, or a minivan, or (LOL) an SUV. The day that I can get a fully electric light pickup truck with at minimum 400 mile range, then we'll have a discussion about leaving the internal-combustion engine behind. Likewise motorcycles: My current bike (7th I've owned) gets about 180 miles per tank. When you can come up with a fully electric replacement for it, then we'll talk about retiring gasoline-powered motorcycles, too, but not before. Also there has to be infrastructure for rapid charging that's at least as ubiquitos as gas stations are now, and that's the hard part.
Here's the facts of the matter: 1. GMOs are already 'out in the wild' and their altered DNA is already being spread to the rest of the biosphere due to cross-pollination. 2. Because Monsanto and companies like them will pay almost any amount of money to protect the investment in their IP, we'll never know the truth about the long-term health effects of eating GMO foods until if and when a pattern emerges. 3. Fact of the matter is: It's already too late to do anything about the situation, because of #1 and #2; genie is already out of the bottle, there is no going back, and if it ends up causing an extinction-level event in 10, 20, 50, or however many years, then we've only got ourselves to blame for it.
..and, naturally, I will now get modded down to (-1, Troll/Flamebait/whatever) for daring to state the truth, by the paid shills, GMO fanbois, rose-colored-glasses wearers, and everyone under the general category of 'what could possibly go wrong?' (aka Murphy invokers). At this point I just cross my fingers and hope that they actually did test the shit thoroughly enough to ensure that we're not going to completely fuck the whole planet and/or the Human race with it, or at the very least that I get to die of non-GMO-related natural causes before a GMO Apocalypse causes an extinction-level event.
How about something more exotic, like a microwave beamer? Hit it with, say, a kilowatt beam of microwaves, fry it's control receiver, maybe fry all it's electronics? Could start a whole new industry: 'tools' to protect yourself and your property against drones.
Thank you. That changes the discussion a little then, doesn't it? I guess the man in Kentucky would have had to have a sniper rifle with a scope, if the drone was at least 500 feet above his property, I'd think a shotgun blast would spread out and lose too much velocity at that distance to effectively take out a drone.:-) Seriously though this just strengthens my opinion that the only law the landowner broke in this case was the discharging of a firearm, otherwise he was well within his rights to deal with the drone. Personally I would have rather taken the thing down in one piece, then either waited to see if the owner showed up so I could 'deal with him' personally (or just prevent him from leaving until the police arrived) or just called the police, informing them I wanted to press whatever charges I could press against the owner, and let them deal with it.
Agreed; the only law the property owner whose space was violated here committed was discharging a firearm within city limits. Otherwise I'm 100% behind what the guy did. If he'd had a slingshot and took it down with a rock, or a something that shot a net or other propeller-entangling device at it to take it out of the air, we'd be having a different discussion completely, one about creepy, potentially pedophiliac drone pilots skeezing on 16-year-old girls in their own backyards. Seriously, if it had been someone in a 2nd-story window facing the backyard with a pair of binoculars, there wouldn't be a news story here, just a note on a police blotter about officers sent to investigate a peeping Tom/potential pedophile snooping on people in their backyard.
********************* On a relevant subject to this discussion: When you purchase a piece of real estate, do you own any of the airspace above it? If so, up to how many feet? If not, perhaps, in the era of drones, there needs to be such a thing spelled out in the deed to your property?
You're misreading what I wrote, so let me say it again a little differently: No government anywhere anytime is going to openly condone the things that Snowden did. You're also missing out where I said what he did needed to be done, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be villified by the government for doing it. For all we know, Obama and any number of other people in our government are happy he did what he did and is now taking the heat for it (for the rest of his life) because it relieved them of the burden of wanting to do it themselves if they also knew about these things but were (understandably) too chicken to do it themselves. However, again: no government is going to officially, publicly condone such a thing being done. It would be utter chaos if they did.
I've read through a sampling of your own comments, and find it rather ironic that you're calling me 'elitist' when apparently it's not beneath you to do precisely the same thing. Do you have to have supplemental oxygen all the way up there on your mountaintop, or have you adapted to the altitude?
Did Snowden do something that needed to be done? Yes. Did he essentially end his own life in the process? Yes. Does anyone actually believe that he thought there would be any other outcome from his actions, or that he wouldn't have a price on his head for the rest of his life? Not if you have at least two working brain cells, you don't. You could have had a hundred million signatures on that petition, and it wouldn't matter, because pardoning him would set a dangerous precedent, essentially declaring open season on any and all State secrets that anyone with access thought should be revealed. You can't even blame Obama for any of this in this case; any head of any government would say 'no' for the same reasons.
Samsung Unveils New Energy-Wasting Monitor Electric companies quoted as saying "Cool!". Inverse square law unavailable for comment, rumored to have slit it's wrists.
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Lying to myself
LOL.
Here's a picture of a black man who is not a nigger.
Anyone remember those cheesy little balsa-wood toy airplanes they used to sell at the grocery store, with a rubber band-driven propeller? Would cost a $2-3? By your 'definition' you could be flying one of those, have someone shoot it down with a BB gun, and the guy with the BB gun goes to prison and has a felony on his record the rest of his life, in addition to the $250k fine. In other words your assertion is utterly rediculous, they're talking about actual aircraft, not toys being operated by irresponsible (or just plain skeezy, slimey) people, that's what we have judges for, to interpret the laws so they're applied correctly and fairly (and not just to the strict letter of them), and since this is a new phenomenon all the potentially applicable laws haven't been updated (or written for that matter) so again your assertion is rediculous. Stop trying to be a lawyer.
Listen, jerk: I don't particularly like that 'KGIII' guy you're responding to, but I do agree with him on this issue. The guy who shot down the drone will have to deal with the consequences of discharging a firearm within city limits like he did, but I think he had every right to do what he did, and drone operators need to keep their toys away from people's houses.
The creators were sent an image of the vandalized robot Saturday but couldn't track its location because the battery is dead. They said they don't know who destroyed it or why.
The perpetrators of this vandalism probably were bored, undereducated, underachieving young WHITE male(s). The definition of 'nigger' has changed; it has to do with how you think and act, not the color of your skin. Ironically, racist pieces of shit who go around calling black people 'niggers' are the ones who are the real niggers in the world, because they're largely who are perpetuating so-called race-related problems.
Sexconker, you certainly didn't intend it, but for once you're right: Facebook is for cows.
Should we get you a different toy to play with than just the See and Say? Surely you're getting bored with it by now, kiddo. How about a nice Ironman Mister Potato-head?
Currently, there is no such thing as 'artificial intelligence'; what we do have are some clever pieces of software that are expert systems. They cannot and do not 'think', not at all in the sense that a human does. The chance of us developing such a thing is still so far into the future that it's not even really worth considering seriously. For someone so apparently so otherwise intelligent, Elon Musk is just embarassing himself with this entire line of conversation. I think he needs to just continue focusing on getting the private sector into space, and getting more people into electric cars.
If the speed limit is 25 (which it was in this case) and I was going 28 or 29 (which I was, and which is not far enough above the limit to get ticketed) then what's the point of passing me, especially in a residential neighborhood? I was in the middle of the right-hand side of the street, which was the safest place for me to be at that speed. The guy in the car (which happened to be a Porsche, and the driver appeared to be middle-aged) actually was being extremely unsafe in passing me. If some kid ran out into the street in front of me, the result would be me in the hospital and a scared, but uninjured kid; the result of some kid running out in front of the arrogant fool in his Porsche would either be a dead kid, or massive property damage when he ran into either parked cars or someone's house trying to avoid hitting a kid in the street. People can hate on me for being a cyclist all they want, I'm used to it, but you can't defend that guy for being an arrogant ass like that, when his only excuse is he didn't want to be behind a bicycle that was preventing him from driving 50mph in a 25mph zone.
Yes, AC. The cow says 'moo'.
The pig says 'oink'.
The chickens say 'cluck cluck'.
The horse says 'neigh'.
The duck says 'quack quack'.
The geese say 'honk honk'.
The sheep say 'baaaa'.
The dog says 'woof'.
The frog says 'ribbit'.
The coyote says 'aaaahwoooooo'.
The rooster says 'cockadoodledoo!'.
The cat says 'meow'.
And the turkey says 'gooble gobble'.
Now please go play with your See and Say quietly somewhere else, k? The adults are having a conversation, sweetie. If you're good, maybe you'll get a cookie later.
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Now, then, ISPs: I have only one thing to say about them and all their little temper tantrums they keep having: MUH PROFIT MARGIN. Get over it, ISPs, and get correct.
I have noticed motorists get impatient when I take the lane
Your'e not the only one. Just last week, in a hilly neighborhood, I was on a descent and exceeding the posted speed limit while doing it.. and someone in a car went out of their way to pass me regardless. They had to have been going at least 50mph to do it, too. Nonsensical.
Generally speaking you should not be feeding the trolls like you just did, because that's what that was: trolling, and very garden-variety trolling at that, but your math-fu and physics-fu is strong, and you brought yet another angle to refuting all the same old and busted arguments about bikes and road wear. Something else that can be added to the anti-argument, especially for those of us who live here in the U.S., is an eventual reduction in health insurance costs, as more people would be encouraged to ride bikes, making them healthier overall, reducing the occurrance of obesity, diabetes, and heart disease, which would make healthcare less expensive for everyone in the long run.
Anyone who (apparently) gets this upset over a simple discussion on the Internet is either a troll, or someone who feels so powerless in their real life that stirring up shit on the Internet is the only way they can feel relevant. Or whatever your problem is. Regardless: I have no time for someone like you. Go pick a fight with someone else, someone who gives a damn, OK? It's not like what you or anyone else on the Internet says is going to change anything I have to say, or anything else about me either.
'Proving' age isn't going to be the issue. Porn sites moving their hosting to outside the legal boundaries of the country will be the problem. Or does Cameron think the British Empire still exists, and he can just send troops to another country to enforce his wishes? I never cease to be surprised when politicians in any country fail to learn that you can't legislate morality. The onus of 'protecting' children from things on the Internet still falls squarely upon parents, as it should be.
Hoo-kay.. you're just yet another pedantic, argument-loving internet person, and as such I'm not taking you seriously. Maybe you should just relax a little? We're not world leaders, nothing we say here is going to decide who lives and who dies, we're just having a conversation. Just chill out instead of getting all lathered up over a single word.
Listen, guy: of course it's all speculation right now. I don't even think the scientists at companies like Monsanto really know what long-term effects GMOs will have on the planet. I would like it if there were zero problems with them, but I think it's foolish to ignore the possibility that they rushed things and that somewhere down the line something bad might happen as a result. Frankly if I had more confidence in a company like Monsanto being a good citizen I'd be a bit more at ease over the whole subject, but you can't say that Monsanto leaves people with a warm, fuzzy feeling. Also you have to admit: Especially on Slashdot, you find an inordinately large percentage of early adopters to any new technological developments, and frankly I find many of them to be rather short-sighted.
A brief review of the past 100 or so of your comments reveals that you're just yet another one of those jackasses who likes to argue with people for the sake of starting an argument, so you can fuck the hell off, there's no way I'll ever take you seriously. Although I suppose in your case your pointlessly argumentative nature is largely due to the fact that you're a bitter old man who has nothing left to him in life other than to be bitter, argumentative, and contrary, as there's no other way for you to feel relevant anymore other than hacking on as many other people online as you can every day.
Flywheels.. fuel cells.. 'charging efficiency'.. never mind all that. Where's my all-electric small pickup truck? Where's my electric motorcycle? Not everyone needs or wants just a two- or four-door sedan, or a minivan, or (LOL) an SUV. The day that I can get a fully electric light pickup truck with at minimum 400 mile range, then we'll have a discussion about leaving the internal-combustion engine behind. Likewise motorcycles: My current bike (7th I've owned) gets about 180 miles per tank. When you can come up with a fully electric replacement for it, then we'll talk about retiring gasoline-powered motorcycles, too, but not before. Also there has to be infrastructure for rapid charging that's at least as ubiquitos as gas stations are now, and that's the hard part.
Here's the facts of the matter:
1. GMOs are already 'out in the wild' and their altered DNA is already being spread to the rest of the biosphere due to cross-pollination.
2. Because Monsanto and companies like them will pay almost any amount of money to protect the investment in their IP, we'll never know the truth about the long-term health effects of eating GMO foods until if and when a pattern emerges.
3. Fact of the matter is: It's already too late to do anything about the situation, because of #1 and #2; genie is already out of the bottle, there is no going back, and if it ends up causing an extinction-level event in 10, 20, 50, or however many years, then we've only got ourselves to blame for it.
..and, naturally, I will now get modded down to (-1, Troll/Flamebait/whatever) for daring to state the truth, by the paid shills, GMO fanbois, rose-colored-glasses wearers, and everyone under the general category of 'what could possibly go wrong?' (aka Murphy invokers). At this point I just cross my fingers and hope that they actually did test the shit thoroughly enough to ensure that we're not going to completely fuck the whole planet and/or the Human race with it, or at the very least that I get to die of non-GMO-related natural causes before a GMO Apocalypse causes an extinction-level event.
..or something that entangles it, like a net.
How about something more exotic, like a microwave beamer? Hit it with, say, a kilowatt beam of microwaves, fry it's control receiver, maybe fry all it's electronics? Could start a whole new industry: 'tools' to protect yourself and your property against drones.
Why should I even bother?
Thank you. That changes the discussion a little then, doesn't it? I guess the man in Kentucky would have had to have a sniper rifle with a scope, if the drone was at least 500 feet above his property, I'd think a shotgun blast would spread out and lose too much velocity at that distance to effectively take out a drone. :-) Seriously though this just strengthens my opinion that the only law the landowner broke in this case was the discharging of a firearm, otherwise he was well within his rights to deal with the drone. Personally I would have rather taken the thing down in one piece, then either waited to see if the owner showed up so I could 'deal with him' personally (or just prevent him from leaving until the police arrived) or just called the police, informing them I wanted to press whatever charges I could press against the owner, and let them deal with it.
Agreed; the only law the property owner whose space was violated here committed was discharging a firearm within city limits. Otherwise I'm 100% behind what the guy did. If he'd had a slingshot and took it down with a rock, or a something that shot a net or other propeller-entangling device at it to take it out of the air, we'd be having a different discussion completely, one about creepy, potentially pedophiliac drone pilots skeezing on 16-year-old girls in their own backyards. Seriously, if it had been someone in a 2nd-story window facing the backyard with a pair of binoculars, there wouldn't be a news story here, just a note on a police blotter about officers sent to investigate a peeping Tom/potential pedophile snooping on people in their backyard.
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On a relevant subject to this discussion: When you purchase a piece of real estate, do you own any of the airspace above it? If so, up to how many feet? If not, perhaps, in the era of drones, there needs to be such a thing spelled out in the deed to your property?
You're misreading what I wrote, so let me say it again a little differently: No government anywhere anytime is going to openly condone the things that Snowden did. You're also missing out where I said what he did needed to be done, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be villified by the government for doing it. For all we know, Obama and any number of other people in our government are happy he did what he did and is now taking the heat for it (for the rest of his life) because it relieved them of the burden of wanting to do it themselves if they also knew about these things but were (understandably) too chicken to do it themselves. However, again: no government is going to officially, publicly condone such a thing being done. It would be utter chaos if they did.
I've read through a sampling of your own comments, and find it rather ironic that you're calling me 'elitist' when apparently it's not beneath you to do precisely the same thing. Do you have to have supplemental oxygen all the way up there on your mountaintop, or have you adapted to the altitude?
Did Snowden do something that needed to be done? Yes. Did he essentially end his own life in the process? Yes. Does anyone actually believe that he thought there would be any other outcome from his actions, or that he wouldn't have a price on his head for the rest of his life? Not if you have at least two working brain cells, you don't. You could have had a hundred million signatures on that petition, and it wouldn't matter, because pardoning him would set a dangerous precedent, essentially declaring open season on any and all State secrets that anyone with access thought should be revealed. You can't even blame Obama for any of this in this case; any head of any government would say 'no' for the same reasons.
Samsung Unveils New Energy-Wasting Monitor
Electric companies quoted as saying "Cool!".
Inverse square law unavailable for comment, rumored to have slit it's wrists.