My god. I didn't know there were people this gullible.
There is only so much the little kid can inflate 360 sales numbers and deflate PS3 sales. He can't put 360 sales number up that are higher than reported shipment figures. And he can't put up PS3 sales numbers that are so low that it would mean millions and millions of PS3 sitting unsold on store shelves around the world.
It is obviously getting harder and harder for him to inflate 360 sales relative to PS3 sales as the installed base numbers increase. But he tries with the burning fanboy desire. He once in a while screws up and puts up his fabricated sales numbers that have 360 sales greater than 360 shipments or some other obvious mistake. The Other region is where he sticks most of the inflated sales numbers for the 360 since that is the hardest to track region with no single company providing regular sales numbers for the entire region.
And then there are the fabricated software sales numbers that make the hardware sales numbers look reasonable...
"Here's a site which is non-biased, just showing sales information"
Did you actually just write that?
That site is the poster child for fanboy sites. It is a site run by a little kid Xbox fan who used to make up sales numbers on various gaming sites until he go banned for spreading bullshit.
Did you honestly think some little site is able to sample retail data from Asia,North America, and Europe??? Something that large companies can't even manage to do even with the large amounts of money they charge companies just for one single country.
Microsoft has been shutting down their Xbox game studios over the past three years. They are now down to only three: Rare, Lionhead, and Turn 10. Along with their talk of not releasing new Xbox hardware any time soon it sounds like they are easing out of the console market.
They surely see that they went with the absolutely cheapest console hardware and still lost billions. With no consumer electronics design and manufacturing capabilities of their own there is no reason that they would do any better with yet another try at console hardware. More reliable and better built hardware is going to cost more money. And no one at Microsoft appears to be in any mood to continue spending billions on products that are doing nothing for Microsoft as a whole.
"An "Ask Slashdot" with the goatse guy would be more enlightening to read."
LOL, he certainly has had a tremendous and lasting impact on Slashdot. I would love a interview with the guy. Does he use Linux or Windows? BSD or GPL for his open source projects? We've all gotten insight into one side of him. It's long over do to learn about the other.
The Entertainment and Devices division that makes the Zune and Xbox are't profitable outside of accounting gimmicks.
The Mac Business Unit has been dumped into the division to hide the Xbox fiasco's losses and there are other accounting games going on to add profits to the division.
Even worse for E&D is that even with the accounting games managing to eek out a tiny profit for 2008 it is getting close to the time where if Microsoft is willing to stay in the console market they are going to have to start once again spending the hundreds of millions to billions ramping up new hardware.
It sounds like the entire E&D division is going to have a massive shakeup.
Zune hardware will get killed off and the software will move into Windows Mobile.
Xbox hardware won't get killed off right away but all investment in the platform is at an end. Microsoft will finish shutting down the remaining internal dev studios and continue to reduce Xbox staff while trying to keep up the illusion they are sticking around in the console market so they keep as many people paying online fees as possible over the next couple years as the 360 dies out in the market.
Windows Mobile is now the main focus with massive pressure to come up with something to publicly show after falling so terribly behind the past couple years. Mobile phone makers are rapidly standardizing on Android if you look at the release plans for 2009 and the massive number of Android based phone coming out.
Robbie Bach will most likely be gone sometime in 2009 with most of E&D shut down leaving pretty much just the WinMo stuff merged with Zune and as much of the Xbox mess migrated over to Microsoft's PC gaming efforts with a focus on Vista/Win7 exclusives.
I can't imagine what it must be like to work in the Mac Business Unit at Microsoft knowing that all your efforts are going to nothing more than playing accounting games to hide the Xbox disaster.
It is staggering to grasp the magnitude of the Xbox diaster when you look at it:
* Over 4 billion dollars in losses on the first Xbox hardware
* Mac Business Unit moved into the Xbox division to cover up the losses
* Absolute worst and cheapest console hardware ever created with the Xbox 360
* Online fees for everyone playing online games effectively adding 50-150 dollars in extra revenue per console
* Three years on the market
And the E&D division still was only able to post a relatively tiny profit for 2008. Take away the profitable Mac Business Unit, the Xbox online fees, and other profitable parts of the E&D division and the Xbox 360 hardware is obviously still generating huge losses.
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My god. I didn't know there were people this gullible.
There is only so much the little kid can inflate 360 sales numbers and deflate PS3 sales. He can't put 360 sales number up that are higher than reported shipment figures. And he can't put up PS3 sales numbers that are so low that it would mean millions and millions of PS3 sitting unsold on store shelves around the world.
It is obviously getting harder and harder for him to inflate 360 sales relative to PS3 sales as the installed base numbers increase. But he tries with the burning fanboy desire. He once in a while screws up and puts up his fabricated sales numbers that have 360 sales greater than 360 shipments or some other obvious mistake. The Other region is where he sticks most of the inflated sales numbers for the 360 since that is the hardest to track region with no single company providing regular sales numbers for the entire region.
And then there are the fabricated software sales numbers that make the hardware sales numbers look reasonable...
"Here's a site which is non-biased, just showing sales information"
Did you actually just write that?
That site is the poster child for fanboy sites. It is a site run by a little kid Xbox fan who used to make up sales numbers on various gaming sites until he go banned for spreading bullshit.
Did you honestly think some little site is able to sample retail data from Asia,North America, and Europe??? Something that large companies can't even manage to do even with the large amounts of money they charge companies just for one single country.
My god are people naive.
Microsoft has been shutting down their Xbox game studios over the past three years. They are now down to only three: Rare, Lionhead, and Turn 10. Along with their talk of not releasing new Xbox hardware any time soon it sounds like they are easing out of the console market.
They surely see that they went with the absolutely cheapest console hardware and still lost billions. With no consumer electronics design and manufacturing capabilities of their own there is no reason that they would do any better with yet another try at console hardware. More reliable and better built hardware is going to cost more money. And no one at Microsoft appears to be in any mood to continue spending billions on products that are doing nothing for Microsoft as a whole.
"An "Ask Slashdot" with the goatse guy would be more enlightening to read."
LOL, he certainly has had a tremendous and lasting impact on Slashdot. I would love a interview with the guy. Does he use Linux or Windows? BSD or GPL for his open source projects? We've all gotten insight into one side of him. It's long over do to learn about the other.
The Entertainment and Devices division that makes the Zune and Xbox are't profitable outside of accounting gimmicks.
The Mac Business Unit has been dumped into the division to hide the Xbox fiasco's losses and there are other accounting games going on to add profits to the division.
Even worse for E&D is that even with the accounting games managing to eek out a tiny profit for 2008 it is getting close to the time where if Microsoft is willing to stay in the console market they are going to have to start once again spending the hundreds of millions to billions ramping up new hardware.
It sounds like the entire E&D division is going to have a massive shakeup.
Zune hardware will get killed off and the software will move into Windows Mobile.
Xbox hardware won't get killed off right away but all investment in the platform is at an end. Microsoft will finish shutting down the remaining internal dev studios and continue to reduce Xbox staff while trying to keep up the illusion they are sticking around in the console market so they keep as many people paying online fees as possible over the next couple years as the 360 dies out in the market.
Windows Mobile is now the main focus with massive pressure to come up with something to publicly show after falling so terribly behind the past couple years. Mobile phone makers are rapidly standardizing on Android if you look at the release plans for 2009 and the massive number of Android based phone coming out.
Robbie Bach will most likely be gone sometime in 2009 with most of E&D shut down leaving pretty much just the WinMo stuff merged with Zune and as much of the Xbox mess migrated over to Microsoft's PC gaming efforts with a focus on Vista/Win7 exclusives.
Most likely the fact that in two recent interviews the CEO of the company was talking about the Zune hardware in the past tense.
I can't imagine what it must be like to work in the Mac Business Unit at Microsoft knowing that all your efforts are going to nothing more than playing accounting games to hide the Xbox disaster.
It is staggering to grasp the magnitude of the Xbox diaster when you look at it:
* Over 4 billion dollars in losses on the first Xbox hardware
* Mac Business Unit moved into the Xbox division to cover up the losses
* Absolute worst and cheapest console hardware ever created with the Xbox 360
* Online fees for everyone playing online games effectively adding 50-150 dollars in extra revenue per console
* Three years on the market
And the E&D division still was only able to post a relatively tiny profit for 2008. Take away the profitable Mac Business Unit, the Xbox online fees, and other profitable parts of the E&D division and the Xbox 360 hardware is obviously still generating huge losses.