And even though apes and monkeys have similar DNA, its only in the sequence, and unless they can analyze the billions of base pairs and determine the % difference, every kind of double-stranded DNA from human to virus looks identical.
Maybe they could release a "Mission to Mars: eye candy" version sans plot.. maybe in imax. oh yeah..
After reading many of the other posts, I'm beginning to see the side of the other teams working to produce a more secure version of quake. Also I have read a lot about Slade's attitude to the community (if it's accurately represented here..) and being an amateur mod maker myself, of course I don't support his abandonment of the community.
I realise that there are many ways that this could be done, but obfuscating code has the same effect as closing the source. It removes peoples ability to edit. So why is this a legal alternative and closing the source is not. The quake source still remains open - anyone can try to create an alternative and if their version is better then I'll use that one!
As for the source release causing problems in the quake community, the damage has already been done. I have seen countless TF clans call it quits and its a shame to see a great game fade away.
I realise I'm preaching to the wrong audience here, but the release of the Quake source code was the worst thing to happen to the Quake community. This community was still alive and thriving on a piece of software developed many years ago, how many games or even software projects can say that? The quakelives project is attempting to restore the security in quake against anyone, anywhere fabricating cheats and ruining the game for everyone.
Did John Carmack intend to turn away the countless loyal members of the quake community by releasing the code? I dont think so. He probably wanted to see what other projects could come out of it, considering it to be an outdated project. So when someone attempts to create a free, secure product that would be used by many many people, they have to give up the whole point of their project by releasing the source? Shame on John. He created Quake a long time ago and it is less his now and more property of the people who work with it and play in it day after day. Mr. Carmack should try to file the source under a better agreement that would allow Slade to release a secure version of his interpretation of the quake source. Mod makers have pushed iD up to the level they are at now. Free mod makers are the last people that should come under fire for legal issues.
The issue of cheating is so great in Quake that it will make or break the community. Allow someone to release a secure, standardized version now that iD has given up that right.
"As a Canadian I found the "original" song to be hilarious. Hey, if you can't laugh at yourself... maybe someone needs to lighten up;-) "
Also as a Canadian, I saw this song to be making fun of everything BUT Canada. I think this is a great tribute to how much Canada is NOT america, which if I understand my high school social studies teacher, is one of the defining elements of our national identity.
I know Trey won't change the theme of the song, and anything he does change will make it more funny. Think about it, would these guys pass up the chance to offend millions of people at one time! Trey won't bow to censorship, he'll find a way around it.
It's a sad thing that the most famous computer woman computer scientist in the news these days is there because she's posing for playboy. Well there are undoubtedly many others, but she of course jumps to mind. Mugsy
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And even though apes and monkeys have similar DNA, its only in the sequence, and unless they can analyze the billions of base pairs and determine the % difference, every kind of double-stranded DNA from human to virus looks identical.
Maybe they could release a "Mission to Mars: eye candy" version sans plot.. maybe in imax. oh yeah..
MugsyI realise that there are many ways that this could be done, but obfuscating code has the same effect as closing the source. It removes peoples ability to edit. So why is this a legal alternative and closing the source is not. The quake source still remains open - anyone can try to create an alternative and if their version is better then I'll use that one!
As for the source release causing problems in the quake community, the damage has already been done. I have seen countless TF clans call it quits and its a shame to see a great game fade away.
MattI realise I'm preaching to the wrong audience here, but the release of the Quake source code was the worst thing to happen to the Quake community. This community was still alive and thriving on a piece of software developed many years ago, how many games or even software projects can say that? The quakelives project is attempting to restore the security in quake against anyone, anywhere fabricating cheats and ruining the game for everyone.
Did John Carmack intend to turn away the countless loyal members of the quake community by releasing the code? I dont think so. He probably wanted to see what other projects could come out of it, considering it to be an outdated project. So when someone attempts to create a free, secure product that would be used by many many people, they have to give up the whole point of their project by releasing the source? Shame on John. He created Quake a long time ago and it is less his now and more property of the people who work with it and play in it day after day. Mr. Carmack should try to file the source under a better agreement that would allow Slade to release a secure version of his interpretation of the quake source. Mod makers have pushed iD up to the level they are at now. Free mod makers are the last people that should come under fire for legal issues.
The issue of cheating is so great in Quake that it will make or break the community. Allow someone to release a secure, standardized version now that iD has given up that right.
Matt BooneAlso as a Canadian, I saw this song to be making fun of everything BUT Canada. I think this is a great tribute to how much Canada is NOT america, which if I understand my high school social studies teacher, is one of the defining elements of our national identity.
I know Trey won't change the theme of the song, and anything he does change will make it more funny. Think about it, would these guys pass up the chance to offend millions of people at one time! Trey won't bow to censorship, he'll find a way around it.
Matt BooneIt's a sad thing that the most famous computer woman computer scientist in the news these days is there because she's posing for playboy. Well there are undoubtedly many others, but she of course jumps to mind. Mugsy