heh, interesting.. going to that directory i now get a 403 forbidden: you don't have permission to access this directory.
Looks like someone at transmeta.com is not only there, but actually reading slashdot and reacting to it by suddenly remembering to shut off access to the apache automatically generated index pages..:)
i love it.. the concept of vaporware in reverse. By waiting until they actually have something definite to speak up, everyone tries to theorize about what you could be doing, analyses your every action, gives you as much free publicity as you could possibly need. And that way, since you aren't the one giving out the "information", the information can be incredibly innaccurate without any kind of backlash against you. Also you avoid the "vaporware backlash" inevitable if you spend _any_ amount of time actually making the product worth shipping instead of just shipping whatever you have on the date you gave earlier.
Apple has been attempting this for years with their "we do not comment on unannounced products" policy, but never have they done it so successfully as Transmeta has here. although take a warning from apple's experience: This kind of thing _can_ backfire. Look, for instance, at the ibook; through apple's silence, the mac rumors sites constantly talked about the ibook even when there was nothing to report, whipped up everyone into such a frenzy over the upcoming P1/consumer portable/ibook/ebook that apple was basically forced eventually to release the ibook despite the fact that it would appear they weren't quite _ready_. In fact, apple was frequently accused by relatively respectable people and news outlets of engaging in "vaporware" with the ibook-- despite the fact they had never really admitted the ibook existed, just a vague mention in Steve Job's speech the previous year they'd like to create a "consumer portable".. (if they had had time to _get_ ready, clearly they would have chosen colors other than blue and orange..:)
Anyway, i am looking forward to the transmeta Crusoe chip, built using 100% Technology Stolen from Alien Spacecraft.
more widespread, standard clipboard would be nice, yes. what i think would be _really_ nice in linux, or at least in the GNOME environment, is better support for drag&drop between apps along the lines the mac os uses. This is the one thing i really miss in X more than anything else. (and, for that matter, i miss it in windows, although there it's no so bad becuase every app except Mirc and Pirch supports copy/paste in a logical manner)
Here on the mac if someone mentions a URL on IRC, i can just select the url, grab it, drag it to the little MSIE or NS icon in the app switcher and have it open. or drag it to the desktop and have it wait there until i need it. It makes my desktop hideously cluttered, but it's worth it.
Meanwhile if i am running ircii in rxvt or whatever that GNOME terminal program is, and i have netscape open behind it, i can rarely even get copy/paste to work between the two.
This is not something that needs a lot of attention, obviously, but i think it's something that maybe they should look into as the next step in teh evoloution of their GUI.
Either way, between KDE and GNOME (although personally i find KDE so nasty and cumbersome that i feel much more comfortable using Bash to deal with files.. which coming from a native mac user is saying a LOT) look carefully at the linux GUI choices available and ask yourselves if this is something people at large will want to use. It's all very well and good to _say_ linux can conquer "the desktop", but if you really look you'll see that there are so many incredibly _basic_ things in the available GUIs (which is the one part you know most people are going to want to use if they'll have to do it a lot..) which just don't work as well as they do in practically any other available GUI. Things like universal copy/paste, or drag&drop, or preferences dialogs that write the config files for you, or remotely consistant scrollbars, or menus that launch programs (the ones every Window Manager has, similar to the start button or apple menu) which can be changed without restarting the window manager, or in general "intuitive" programs (programs which you can use _without_ reading the documentation). Yes these are minor things, but the minor things are REALLY IMPORTANT. The linux community as a while needs to either put some serious work into fixing problems like these for usability by people who aren't willing to forgive the binary simply because of the liscense of the code, or else just accept that linux and X are things which will be resigned to the role of servers, specific tasks, and use by people who don't mind a CLI and are willing to read the documentation _before_ they do anything. Note i'm not saying this second option is a bad thing, or that the linux community has a real need to go with the first option. I'm just saying until you seriously do something toward the first option, don't claim linux is going to replace windows on a massive scale anytime soon.
> I guess most of you wont be happy until you see a shiny box, and a magazine article that claims that the browser war has yet again a victor.
[coming from a mac user's perspective..]
No.. more like i won't be happy until Netscape releases a browser that isn't slow, unstable, ram-hogging and bloated, standards-noncompliant, and having an interface which is actually painful to use.
Mozilla sounds nice but it's not here now. MSIE4 is here now and works now and takes up half as much RAM as NS4. Icab is here now (if you can give up javascript) and takes up half as much RAM as IE4. For my purposes, until they release a version of mozilla that takes under 10 minutes to open isn't as unstable as a house of cards, netscape lost. They lost to IE in terms of a product that anyone would want to use, and lost to _everyone_ in terms of quality.. If they want to actually ship a usable product at some point in the future that's great. But until then i'm going to stick with shuttling between IE and Icab.
-mcc-baka why web browsers suck: http://home.earthlink.net/~mcclure111/cyberleary.h tml#discontent
Linux is of course _very_ communist; decentralised, everyone is socially equal, the worker has all the power, the individual can never become more important than the group (GPL) etc.
A better question would be how communist is _china_? I would personally say not very. I really wouldn't call any system that smacks of stalinism truly communism, especially a bastard half-capitalism like the current system in China.
Of course, Linux still depends on individual rights to a degree unheard of in the current chineese system. While the individual cannot place himself above the group-- he cannot take the work of the group and propetarize it-- the individual is in the end the most important part of the system, and he has total and complete control over his own setup in every way. The individual has complete freedom over what way he gives back to the community, if at all. But since by helping himself and improving the code of his own system, he helps the community as a whole, the individual gives freely. Basically GNU/Linux is a communism that _works_.
i want to know how microsoft is getting away with this.. msnbc, as i'm sure a lot of other news sources will be doing, are centering really big on the word "VIRUS!" despite the fact the virus isn't the important part at _all_. the important part is that the activex exploit which allowed web pages to install arbitrary code on the person's computer now run in HTML e-mail. If you accept that, the idea "you could write a virus with this" is so obvious as to be totally irrelivant.
The page kinda implied to anyone who doesn't know what they're talking about that this problem is there because someone "wrote a virus", not because MS shipped a product with bad security.
Meanwhile i want to know why microsoft is getting away with this. Despite the fact that a piece of HTML running an activex (or any other kind of applet or script or anything) that can TOUCH your hard drive, much less install, say, Backorifice (or a program that downloads and installs backorifice..) is to me the most terrifying thing a web browser could do. And yet what kind of attention has this little exploit gotten in the couple of months since it's been found? NOTHING. There was like one article on PCWeek months ago and that was IT.
You can, of course, put activex on high, or even disable it, but that shouldn't be _neccicary_. Something like activex that allows something like this SHOULD NOT BE RUNNING BY DEFAULT, since it targets people who don't know enough about their computers to go to the bother of understanding what this "activex" thing that MS put on their computers along with windows is. Let things like this, or the little "feature" that let remote web pages view the contents of your copy/paste clipboard, be turned _off_ until the user needs to use them, not left on until the user finds out they're there? Even if in theory ActiveX had perfect security in every way, i still don't like the idea of a web page touching anything on your hard disk besides your cache. (but then, hell, i'm also an old-timey purist who doesn't think an interpreted language like Javascript should contain things that are reliably able to crash the machine of the person who runs them.. but that's another rant altogether. "while(1)alert('!')"..)
How is MS getting _away_ with this? They should be in HUGE trouble for this whole activex thing; this is the most pathetic/deadly security exploit i think i've ever heard of. Yet they're barely getting any attention for it. WHY is this happening?
Still i think it's awful funny that apparently the _only_ use for ActiveX-- at least, the only time i've ever heard of someone doing anything with ActiveX-- is a security exploit.
-mcc-baka why web browsers suck: http://home.earthlink.net/~mcclure111/cyberleary.h tml#discontent
i decided to glance at antionline one more time upon reading the comments here. first thing i see: Can You Trust Them? Monday, November 8, 1999 at 11:06:49 Is the security industry your friend, or is the proverbial doctor selling you snake oil? http://www.antionline.org/cgi-bin/News?type=anti online&date=11-08-1999&story=trust.news
Read this. it is PATHETIC. Basically it is: jp bashing packetstorm! Apparently not content to dog it to its death, he looks at its new incarnation and, overbrimming with FUD, suspicious statements and things like "the information on packetstorm was compiled by MALICIOUS HACKERS!!".. my God.
I know only a little bit about the whole antionline/packetstorm thing. But even if i'd known _nothing_ it would be pretty obvious just from _reading_ this that this kind of nasty personal attack on a competitor is just totally uncalled for.. blech. i feel dirty having read it.
But you'd think that JP would have kinda sorta realized that having packetstorm shut down was a horrifying dirty act that made him no friends.. and at least had the decency not to immediately attack it once it is brought back from the dead. I guess not?
having read the HFG hack and glanced over antionline.org, i _seriously_ doubt they could have come from the same person. The text of the HFG hack was clever, funny, and all around a great read. No one capable of writing that would have come up with what i see on antionline.org.
On the other hand, you could still be right-- maybe after the statute of limitations he _will_ "admit" to being HFG as one last dying pr stunt, even though he actually _wasn't_ HFG.
Alan Cox has been interviewed already in this forum.. In fact if i remember correctly he was the first subject of a/. interview. I'm pretty sure he was at least one of the earliest.
Yes, i'm being nitpicky and anal. But there are worse things to be (for example, redundant).
i'm just surprised that despite the closed-sourcedness of Notes, there are no LinuxPPC binaries. While I wouldn't ordinarily expect anyone to support the PPC platform, since IBM _makes_ a number of machines that use the PPC chip you'd think they'd want to at least pay the platform lip service.. i guess they assume any ppc machines they sold will be running AIX anyway.:P
That being said, i do think that one of linux's greatest strengths is its flexibility across hardware platforms, and they really should make an effort to compile binaries for the ppc and alpha platforms.. i guess those markets just aren't big enough. But still i'm sure it's a lot less effort to support redhat linuxppc vs. redhat x86 than it is to support, say, distributions running different versions of glibc.
But while it's nice to see these people expanding so well on tesla's work with AC electricity, it would be nice to see these people looking at some of his other work. Why, for instance, have these people done nothing involving free energy, antigravity, FM radio, or warping of the space/time continuum?
Just because the government doesn't want you to know about these important advancements doesn't mean we should totally ignore their worth while using tesla coils to blow things up. For example i'll bet a pure-space free-energy reaction would look pretty cool wth Hemos sitting inside of it.
you forgot the ability to copy and paste files. While this "feature" really is a horrible travesty and doesn't actually make sense, i'd have to say it's the only "innovation" in microsoft windows or DOS where "innovation" means "something which is not exactly identical in concept to a feature in an existing program". (not counting, of course, the idea of naming all the drives after (for some reason) letters-- that's already been discussed in this thread)
I think you're giving LinuxOne more credit for being devious than they really deserve. I don't think that this is a masterminded plot on the part of LinuxOne to screw people over, I think it's a simpleminded unethical scheme, no more, no less.
I wasn't actually serious.. i was just suggesting that given the circumstances these things were _possible_, not that there was any chance these things were happening.
you don't understand what these people are doing here-- what they're trying to do is set themselves up as a joke-- make themselves seem as inconsequential and worthless as possible, and then flood their website with self-importance and misleading statements and file for an IPO. Why? They're hoping that by appearing to be a blasphemy, they'll have Linuxone and Slashdot.org give them huge amounts of free advertising by making fun of them. and you're playing right into their hands.
it's the Marilyn Manson strategy exactly, except instead of the Religious Right they're using Slashdot. Look at this! despite the fact that they're totally inconsequential and have sold practically nothing, they've managed to get more "buzz" than, well, practically any other linux distribution simply by the major linux news sites pointing out how stupid they are! Now imagine mr. venture capitalist, going over to his favorite search engine and typing in "linuxone" to check out this company he's heard about the IPO of. And suddenly, he finds several articles on LinuxWorld and Slashdot.org in the last couple weeks alone, much more coverage than, say, Mandrake has! He won't read these articles, of course; he'll just assume it means linuxone is an important company.
That being said, despite the fact it's an IPO i think that all future/. articles on linuxone should be placed under the "humor" icon.
what CNN ought to do is carefully log the referrers in the HTTP headers of everyone who visits the poll and show a breakdown of results by who sent them there. That would actually make this poll interesting-- after all a normal internet poll is totally worthless and doesn't really tell you much of anything, but it would at least be interesting to see the differences of opinions of people who found the poll through slashdot.org vs. the people who found it through macnn.com vs. the people who actually were visiting cnn.com vs. the people with *.microsoft.com hostmasks.
That would at least tell you something-- kind of let you know the kind of crowd that is frequented by different news/portal pages. As is, though, i don't see why i should care that 77% of the random people who happen to be at cnn.com for some reason on a saturday morning happen to think MS has a monopoly.
What does surprise me is that 22% of all the people thought "imposing fines" would somehow have some effect on MS's monopoly. Huh??
oh GAWD.. as neat as these quickies are, i would like to request of the/. admins: In future, PLEASE warn us of any links with embedded MIDI beforehand! Just so that we will have some time to prepare-- say, turn off whatever music we happen to be listening to on the computer speakers before we click on the link.
I love the simpsons pulp fiction thing, but in my eyes embedded MIDI is the most evil thing a webpage can do.. maybe i'm overreacting a bit. i dunno. I hope i'm not the only person who had this reaction, if so i feel pretty stupid.:P
-mcc-baka why web browsers suck: http://home.earthlink.net/~mcclure111/cyberleary.h tml#discontent
it would have happened anyway. The fact that CSS is cruddy would not have been changed by linux players for DVD being available.
The difference, though, is that CSS would have been cracked later and for different purposes. Meaning the people cracking css would have done it for the purpose of doing illegal things, not for the purpose of using dvd players they paid money for in a linux environment. Meaning that the hackers in question would not have been able to take the moral high ground, and the companies would have actually been able to complain about illegal acts without sounding hypocritical and stupid. The companies just hurt themselves.
On the other hand, let's think about this a little more. Linux hackers are likely to be promoters of freedom of information, not people making illegal copies. If linux dvd had been available, would the dvd hackers have been someone like MoRE, a small group of brilliant hackers doing it for glory and freedom of information who come out looking like heroes? More likely it would have been a group of people in the pay of a DVD piracy syndicate in a third world country. Such people would not have been likely to even let the outside world know they'd broken CSS encryption-- they'd have just pirated DVDs without anyone knowing what was happening. (it's possible this has already happened!..but not very likely)
On the third hand, what's the likelyhood they could have gotten away with a linux dvd player that wasn't open source and free in every sense of the word? If a free player existed, how difficult could it have possibly been to turn it into a vehicle for software piracy?
Lets face it-- copy protection is a joke. All it does, and all it will ever do is hurt or annoy or otherwise limit people who want to use the software for purposes that ought to be OK. OK now can we go back to "css" being html style sheets?
look, they also have something called "linuxmac" http://www.linuxone.net/products/products.html#L inuxMac
it looks kinda, um, dodgy. apparently will let you transfer files off a mac hard drive from linux. Wow!! They call it the "original solution in file transfer between Macintosh and Linux", which is a truly amazing statement to make since linux has supported HFS (and for that matter appletalk) for a long time. although it seems that the "linuxmac" thing is an actual program that moves files between drives within the program, kinda like the already-existing "linuxdisks" tool for mac, or the ancient pc->mac file converter way back in system 6 for that matter.. On the other hand, there are the already-existing linux HFS drivers where you can simply mount the mac cd/floppies as normal drives.. And which linuxone doesn't go to the bother of mentioning, although i'll bet they raided code from them.
Of course, it's possible that this linuxmac also does HFS+ drives (which would be a complete Godsend) but i seriously doubt it.
Considering the extreme lies-through-omission on this one small product, i doubt anything else linuxone says can be taken seriously..
this has done before, no? Although i guess i shouldn't say anything until i've actually heard anything about the quality of the distribution instead of a vague press release.
see also LinuxPPC Live, which does the same thing only for the mac (boots off same partition as mac OS). http://www.linuxppc.org/. Ha!
hey../. is more or less designed to look ok under Lynx. if it can telnet, it can run Lynx. meaning you can read slashdot on a TI-8X calculator since there is a terminal emulation program for it..
if the phone makers are not considerate enough to supply a telnet client, or if you don't have any shells to connect to, there is always the quick method: you call a friend on the telephone, then ask them to access slashdot on their second phone line and read the stories out loud to you over the phone, and then you crash into a S.U.V. at 70 MPH and die because you were too busy using your cell phone to pay attention to your driving, you stupid insconsiderate fzckhead.
linux could _easily_ reach boot times that windows NT could never dream of, because you have the source.
Just open up the kernel source, and somewhere in the code for the opening crawl insert code that simply runs an empty while() loop until GetDateTime() is equal to January 7, 2004.
Hell.. long as you're at it, you might as well make it a for(;;);. Infinite boot time! woohoo!
just thought that i would be the first to bring up the subject of the "mark of the beast." What happens when they start requiring the chips in all people?
it says this is the first time any ms web page got hacked but that isn't true.
i _very_ clearly remember microsoftoffice98.com or microsoftofficeformacintosh.com or SOMETHING being hacked on halloween of last year. It said something like "happy halloween bill gates" and had a scull, or something. did anyone see this? attrition.org has no reference to it. ANyway the point here is that a microsoft site _has_ been hacked before, and i've seen it, although it's possible that (like this recent hack) it wasn't hosted by the people running the main microsoft cluster of IPs or whatever.
anyone notice that msnbc called Attrition a "reliable computer security site "? Nice to see the media taking note, for a change, of people who don't work for antionline. (although i wish attrition would add a search function to their hack mirror, or at least make it an option to download the whole thing as one long file so i can just command-f..)
I guess we'll all be wondering forever what the hell "uncertainty.microsoft.com" was.
Slashdot Mirror
heh, interesting.. going to that directory i now get a 403 forbidden: you don't have permission to access this directory.
:)
Looks like someone at transmeta.com is not only there, but actually reading slashdot and reacting to it by suddenly remembering to shut off access to the apache automatically generated index pages..
i love it.. the concept of vaporware in reverse. By waiting until they actually have something definite to speak up, everyone tries to theorize about what you could be doing, analyses your every action, gives you as much free publicity as you could possibly need. And that way, since you aren't the one giving out the "information", the information can be incredibly innaccurate without any kind of backlash against you. Also you avoid the "vaporware backlash" inevitable if you spend _any_ amount of time actually making the product worth shipping instead of just shipping whatever you have on the date you gave earlier.
:)
Apple has been attempting this for years with their "we do not comment on unannounced products" policy, but never have they done it so successfully as Transmeta has here.
although take a warning from apple's experience: This kind of thing _can_ backfire. Look, for instance, at the ibook; through apple's silence, the mac rumors sites constantly talked about the ibook even when there was nothing to report, whipped up everyone into such a frenzy over the upcoming P1/consumer portable/ibook/ebook that apple was basically forced eventually to release the ibook despite the fact that it would appear they weren't quite _ready_. In fact, apple was frequently accused by relatively respectable people and news outlets of engaging in "vaporware" with the ibook-- despite the fact they had never really admitted the ibook existed, just a vague mention in Steve Job's speech the previous year they'd like to create a "consumer portable".. (if they had had time to _get_ ready, clearly they would have chosen colors other than blue and orange..
Anyway, i am looking forward to the transmeta Crusoe chip, built using 100% Technology Stolen from Alien Spacecraft.
more widespread, standard clipboard would be nice, yes.
what i think would be _really_ nice in linux, or at least in the GNOME environment, is better support for drag&drop between apps along the lines the mac os uses. This is the one thing i really miss in X more than anything else. (and, for that matter, i miss it in windows, although there it's no so bad becuase every app except Mirc and Pirch supports copy/paste in a logical manner)
Here on the mac if someone mentions a URL on IRC, i can just select the url, grab it, drag it to the little MSIE or NS icon in the app switcher and have it open. or drag it to the desktop and have it wait there until i need it. It makes my desktop hideously cluttered, but it's worth it.
Meanwhile if i am running ircii in rxvt or whatever that GNOME terminal program is, and i have netscape open behind it, i can rarely even get copy/paste to work between the two.
This is not something that needs a lot of attention, obviously, but i think it's something that maybe they should look into as the next step in teh evoloution of their GUI.
Either way, between KDE and GNOME (although personally i find KDE so nasty and cumbersome that i feel much more comfortable using Bash to deal with files.. which coming from a native mac user is saying a LOT) look carefully at the linux GUI choices available and ask yourselves if this is something people at large will want to use. It's all very well and good to _say_ linux can conquer "the desktop", but if you really look you'll see that there are so many incredibly _basic_ things in the available GUIs (which is the one part you know most people are going to want to use if they'll have to do it a lot..) which just don't work as well as they do in practically any other available GUI. Things like universal copy/paste, or drag&drop, or preferences dialogs that write the config files for you, or remotely consistant scrollbars, or menus that launch programs (the ones every Window Manager has, similar to the start button or apple menu) which can be changed without restarting the window manager, or in general "intuitive" programs (programs which you can use _without_ reading the documentation). Yes these are minor things, but the minor things are REALLY IMPORTANT. The linux community as a while needs to either put some serious work into fixing problems like these for usability by people who aren't willing to forgive the binary simply because of the liscense of the code, or else just accept that linux and X are things which will be resigned to the role of servers, specific tasks, and use by people who don't mind a CLI and are willing to read the documentation _before_ they do anything.
Note i'm not saying this second option is a bad thing, or that the linux community has a real need to go with the first option. I'm just saying until you seriously do something toward the first option, don't claim linux is going to replace windows on a massive scale anytime soon.
> I guess most of you wont be happy until you see a shiny box, and a magazine article that claims that the browser war has yet again a victor.
h tml#discontent
[coming from a mac user's perspective..]
No.. more like i won't be happy until Netscape releases a browser that isn't slow, unstable, ram-hogging and bloated, standards-noncompliant, and having an interface which is actually painful to use.
Mozilla sounds nice but it's not here now. MSIE4 is here now and works now and takes up half as much RAM as NS4. Icab is here now (if you can give up javascript) and takes up half as much RAM as IE4. For my purposes, until they release a version of mozilla that takes under 10 minutes to open isn't as unstable as a house of cards, netscape lost. They lost to IE in terms of a product that anyone would want to use, and lost to _everyone_ in terms of quality.. If they want to actually ship a usable product at some point in the future that's great. But until then i'm going to stick with shuttling between IE and Icab.
-mcc-baka
why web browsers suck: http://home.earthlink.net/~mcclure111/cyberleary.
Linux is of course _very_ communist; decentralised, everyone is socially equal, the worker has all the power, the individual can never become more important than the group (GPL) etc.
A better question would be how communist is _china_? I would personally say not very. I really wouldn't call any system that smacks of stalinism truly communism, especially a bastard half-capitalism like the current system in China.
Of course, Linux still depends on individual rights to a degree unheard of in the current chineese system. While the individual cannot place himself above the group-- he cannot take the work of the group and propetarize it-- the individual is in the end the most important part of the system, and he has total and complete control over his own setup in every way. The individual has complete freedom over what way he gives back to the community, if at all. But since by helping himself and improving the code of his own system, he helps the community as a whole, the individual gives freely.
Basically GNU/Linux is a communism that _works_.
-mcc-baka
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY IS THEFT
i want to know how microsoft is getting away with this..
h tml#discontent
msnbc, as i'm sure a lot of other news sources will be doing, are centering really big on the word "VIRUS!" despite the fact the virus isn't the important part at _all_. the important part is that the activex exploit which allowed web pages to install arbitrary code on the person's computer now run in HTML e-mail. If you accept that, the idea "you could write a virus with this" is so obvious as to be totally irrelivant.
The page kinda implied to anyone who doesn't know what they're talking about that this problem is there because someone "wrote a virus", not because MS shipped a product with bad security.
Meanwhile i want to know why microsoft is getting away with this. Despite the fact that a piece of HTML running an activex (or any other kind of applet or script or anything) that can TOUCH your hard drive, much less install, say, Backorifice (or a program that downloads and installs backorifice..) is to me the most terrifying thing a web browser could do. And yet what kind of attention has this little exploit gotten in the couple of months since it's been found? NOTHING. There was like one article on PCWeek months ago and that was IT.
You can, of course, put activex on high, or even disable it, but that shouldn't be _neccicary_. Something like activex that allows something like this SHOULD NOT BE RUNNING BY DEFAULT, since it targets people who don't know enough about their computers to go to the bother of understanding what this "activex" thing that MS put on their computers along with windows is. Let things like this, or the little "feature" that let remote web pages view the contents of your copy/paste clipboard, be turned _off_ until the user needs to use them, not left on until the user finds out they're there? Even if in theory ActiveX had perfect security in every way, i still don't like the idea of a web page touching anything on your hard disk besides your cache. (but then, hell, i'm also an old-timey purist who doesn't think an interpreted language like Javascript should contain things that are reliably able to crash the machine of the person who runs them.. but that's another rant altogether. "while(1)alert('!')"..)
How is MS getting _away_ with this? They should be in HUGE trouble for this whole activex thing; this is the most pathetic/deadly security exploit i think i've ever heard of. Yet they're barely getting any attention for it. WHY is this happening?
Still i think it's awful funny that apparently the _only_ use for ActiveX-- at least, the only time i've ever heard of someone doing anything with ActiveX-- is a security exploit.
-mcc-baka
why web browsers suck: http://home.earthlink.net/~mcclure111/cyberleary.
i decided to glance at antionline one more time upon reading the comments here.i online&date=11-08-1999&story=trust.news
first thing i see:
Can You Trust Them?
Monday, November 8, 1999 at 11:06:49
Is the security industry your friend, or is the proverbial doctor selling you snake oil?
http://www.antionline.org/cgi-bin/News?type=ant
Read this. it is PATHETIC. Basically it is: jp bashing packetstorm! Apparently not content to dog it to its death, he looks at its new incarnation and, overbrimming with FUD, suspicious statements and things like "the information on packetstorm was compiled by MALICIOUS HACKERS!!".. my God.
I know only a little bit about the whole antionline/packetstorm thing. But even if i'd known _nothing_ it would be pretty obvious just from _reading_ this that this kind of nasty personal attack on a competitor is just totally uncalled for.. blech. i feel dirty having read it.
But you'd think that JP would have kinda sorta realized that having packetstorm shut down was a horrifying dirty act that made him no friends.. and at least had the decency not to immediately attack it once it is brought back from the dead. I guess not?
having read the HFG hack and glanced over antionline.org, i _seriously_ doubt they could have come from the same person. The text of the HFG hack was clever, funny, and all around a great read. No one capable of writing that would have come up with what i see on antionline.org.
On the other hand, you could still be right-- maybe after the statute of limitations he _will_ "admit" to being HFG as one last dying pr stunt, even though he actually _wasn't_ HFG.
-mcc-baka
believe what you want
Alan Cox has been interviewed already in this forum.. In fact if i remember correctly he was the first subject of a /. interview. I'm pretty sure he was at least one of the earliest.
Yes, i'm being nitpicky and anal. But there are worse things to be (for example, redundant).
i'm just surprised that despite the closed-sourcedness of Notes, there are no LinuxPPC binaries. While I wouldn't ordinarily expect anyone to support the PPC platform, since IBM _makes_ a number of machines that use the PPC chip you'd think they'd want to at least pay the platform lip service.. i guess they assume any ppc machines they sold will be running AIX anyway. :P
That being said, i do think that one of linux's greatest strengths is its flexibility across hardware platforms, and they really should make an effort to compile binaries for the ppc and alpha platforms.. i guess those markets just aren't big enough. But still i'm sure it's a lot less effort to support redhat linuxppc vs. redhat x86 than it is to support, say, distributions running different versions of glibc.
Nifty.
But while it's nice to see these people expanding so well on tesla's work with AC electricity, it would be nice to see these people looking at some of his other work. Why, for instance, have these people done nothing involving free energy, antigravity, FM radio, or warping of the space/time continuum?
Just because the government doesn't want you to know about these important advancements doesn't mean we should totally ignore their worth while using tesla coils to blow things up. For example i'll bet a pure-space free-energy reaction would look pretty cool wth Hemos sitting inside of it.
Just a thought.
-mcc-baka
7H3 7RUTH 15 0U7 7H3R3!!
you forgot the ability to copy and paste files. While this "feature" really is a horrible travesty and doesn't actually make sense, i'd have to say it's the only "innovation" in microsoft windows or DOS where "innovation" means "something which is not exactly identical in concept to a feature in an existing program". (not counting, of course, the idea of naming all the drives after (for some reason) letters-- that's already been discussed in this thread)
microsoft bashing is fun
I think you're giving LinuxOne more credit for being devious than they really deserve. I don't think that this is a masterminded plot on the part of LinuxOne to screw people over, I think it's a simpleminded unethical scheme, no more, no less.
I wasn't actually serious.. i was just suggesting that given the circumstances these things were _possible_, not that there was any chance these things were happening.
THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!!!
it's the Marilyn Manson strategy exactly, except instead of the Religious Right they're using Slashdot. Look at this! despite the fact that they're totally inconsequential and have sold practically nothing, they've managed to get more "buzz" than, well, practically any other linux distribution simply by the major linux news sites pointing out how stupid they are! Now imagine mr. venture capitalist, going over to his favorite search engine and typing in "linuxone" to check out this company he's heard about the IPO of. And suddenly, he finds several articles on LinuxWorld and Slashdot.org in the last couple weeks alone, much more coverage than, say, Mandrake has! He won't read these articles, of course; he'll just assume it means linuxone is an important company.
That being said, despite the fact it's an IPO i think that all future /. articles on linuxone should be placed under the "humor" icon.
That would at least tell you something-- kind of let you know the kind of crowd that is frequented by different news/portal pages. As is, though, i don't see why i should care that 77% of the random people who happen to be at cnn.com for some reason on a saturday morning happen to think MS has a monopoly.
What does surprise me is that 22% of all the people thought "imposing fines" would somehow have some effect on MS's monopoly. Huh??
--mcc-baka
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY IS THEFT
oh GAWD.. /. admins: In future, PLEASE warn us of any links with embedded MIDI beforehand! Just so that we will have some time to prepare-- say, turn off whatever music we happen to be listening to on the computer speakers before we click on the link.
:P
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as neat as these quickies are, i would like to request of the
I love the simpsons pulp fiction thing, but in my eyes embedded MIDI is the most evil thing a webpage can do.. maybe i'm overreacting a bit. i dunno. I hope i'm not the only person who had this reaction, if so i feel pretty stupid.
-mcc-baka
why web browsers suck: http://home.earthlink.net/~mcclure111/cyberleary.
it would have happened anyway. The fact that CSS is cruddy would not have been changed by linux players for DVD being available.
The difference, though, is that CSS would have been cracked later and for different purposes. Meaning the people cracking css would have done it for the purpose of doing illegal things, not for the purpose of using dvd players they paid money for in a linux environment. Meaning that the hackers in question would not have been able to take the moral high ground, and the companies would have actually been able to complain about illegal acts without sounding hypocritical and stupid. The companies just hurt themselves.
On the other hand, let's think about this a little more. Linux hackers are likely to be promoters of freedom of information, not people making illegal copies. If linux dvd had been available, would the dvd hackers have been someone like MoRE, a small group of brilliant hackers doing it for glory and freedom of information who come out looking like heroes? More likely it would have been a group of people in the pay of a DVD piracy syndicate in a third world country. Such people would not have been likely to even let the outside world know they'd broken CSS encryption-- they'd have just pirated DVDs without anyone knowing what was happening. (it's possible this has already happened!..but not very likely)
On the third hand, what's the likelyhood they could have gotten away with a linux dvd player that wasn't open source and free in every sense of the word? If a free player existed, how difficult could it have possibly been to turn it into a vehicle for software piracy?
Lets face it-- copy protection is a joke. All it does, and all it will ever do is hurt or annoy or otherwise limit people who want to use the software for purposes that ought to be OK.
OK now can we go back to "css" being html style sheets?
-mcc-baka
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY IS THEFT
look, they also have something called "linuxmac"L inuxMac
http://www.linuxone.net/products/products.html#
it looks kinda, um, dodgy. apparently will let you transfer files off a mac hard drive from linux. Wow!! They call it the "original solution in file transfer between Macintosh and Linux", which is a truly amazing statement to make since linux has supported HFS (and for that matter appletalk) for a long time. although it seems that the "linuxmac" thing is an actual program that moves files between drives within the program, kinda like the already-existing "linuxdisks" tool for mac, or the ancient pc->mac file converter way back in system 6 for that matter.. On the other hand, there are the already-existing linux HFS drivers where you can simply mount the mac cd/floppies as normal drives.. And which linuxone doesn't go to the bother of mentioning, although i'll bet they raided code from them.
Of course, it's possible that this linuxmac also does HFS+ drives (which would be a complete Godsend) but i seriously doubt it.
Considering the extreme lies-through-omission on this one small product, i doubt anything else linuxone says can be taken seriously..
this has done before, no? Although i guess i shouldn't say anything until i've actually heard anything about the quality of the distribution instead of a vague press release.
see also LinuxPPC Live, which does the same thing only for the mac (boots off same partition as mac OS). http://www.linuxppc.org/. Ha!
hey.. /. is more or less designed to look ok under Lynx.
if it can telnet, it can run Lynx.
meaning you can read slashdot on a TI-8X calculator since there is a terminal emulation program for it..
if the phone makers are not considerate enough to supply a telnet client, or if you don't have any shells to connect to, there is always the quick method: you call a friend on the telephone, then ask them to access slashdot on their second phone line and read the stories out loud to you over the phone, and then you crash into a S.U.V. at 70 MPH and die because you were too busy using your cell phone to pay attention to your driving, you stupid insconsiderate fzckhead.
The big question in my mind is, can it run MAME?
http://home.earthlink.net/~mcclure111/hamsterdeath
links to similar sites can be found at the end of the main page.
i clicked 'reply to' on a post, going to ask about what this "y2k bug spam announcement' microsoft sent out was.
i have somehow wound up at a reply page, but the post it says i'm replying to is totally blank and says at the top:
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this is cool. i love it when slashdot trips out.
now let's post and see where this post winds up..
linux could _easily_ reach boot times that windows NT could never dream of, because you have the source.
Just open up the kernel source, and somewhere in the code for the opening crawl insert code that simply runs an empty while() loop until GetDateTime() is equal to January 7, 2004.
Hell.. long as you're at it, you might as well make it a for(;;);. Infinite boot time! woohoo!
just thought that i would be the first to bring up the subject of the "mark of the beast." What happens when they start requiring the chips in all people?
it says this is the first time any ms web page got hacked but that isn't true.
i _very_ clearly remember microsoftoffice98.com or microsoftofficeformacintosh.com or SOMETHING being hacked on halloween of last year. It said something like "happy halloween bill gates" and had a scull, or something. did anyone see this? attrition.org has no reference to it.
ANyway the point here is that a microsoft site _has_ been hacked before, and i've seen it, although it's possible that (like this recent hack) it wasn't hosted by the people running the main microsoft cluster of IPs or whatever.
anyone notice that msnbc called Attrition a "reliable computer security site "? Nice to see the media taking note, for a change, of people who don't work for antionline. (although i wish attrition would add a search function to their hack mirror, or at least make it an option to download the whole thing as one long file so i can just command-f..)
I guess we'll all be wondering forever what the hell "uncertainty.microsoft.com" was.